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| openstackgerrit | Ren Qiaowei proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: XenAPI support: Changes for cpu_util https://review.openstack.org/112453 | 02:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Geng proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Support secret host_password option https://review.openstack.org/114428 | 03:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maho Koshiya proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add the function of deleting alarm history https://review.openstack.org/87869 | 08:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maho Koshiya proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add the function of deleting alarm history https://review.openstack.org/87869 | 09:15 |
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| idegtiarov | eglynn: Hi! Probably we can merge this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111270/ ? What do you think? | 09:52 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: already blessed by _nadya_, that's good :) ... I'll take a look at it this morning | 09:53 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: Thank you sir! | 10:02 |
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| lsmola | llu: ping | 11:14 |
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| gordc | eglynn: read through your note. looks good to me. | 12:34 |
| gordc | eglynn: i'll add the two extra meetings to my schedule and track the items. | 12:34 |
| eglynn | gordc: cool, thanks again for taking all this on! :) | 12:34 |
| gordc | eglynn: np. thank me when you get back (in case all fails miserably while you're away) | 12:35 |
| eglynn | gordc: I'll bring you a cigar :) | 12:35 |
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| gordc | :) watching me with a cigar is a treat. i've no idea what i'm doing. | 12:36 |
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| gordc | ceilo folks, anyone have any concerns with this bug re:id columns are too large? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1353039 | 12:47 |
| cdent | The "people are using in real-life" part is the sticky bit, gordc | 12:49 |
| cdent | If we can guarantee uuids are being used then your proposal is the right thing, of course. | 12:49 |
| cdent | Aren't there some resource_id which are uuid + some distinguishing string? | 12:50 |
| gordc | cdent: agreed... i was thinking more just shrinking id columns down to a lower size... say 64 or 128... | 12:50 |
| gordc | one issue is i can't create a unique id on resource table since those columns are too large. | 12:50 |
| cdent | just did a resource-list on a relatively new devstack and it included htis id: nova-instance-instance-00000002-fa163e8d42a8 | 12:50 |
| gordc | it's not really end of world to have dup values in resource table though | 12:51 |
| cdent | Is annoying from a join standpoint? | 12:51 |
| gordc | to have a varchar(255)? i don't think so. from what i know indexing is worse compared to if we had say char(64) | 12:52 |
| gordc | i'm not sure how much the column size effects joining though. | 12:52 |
| cdent | What I meant was dup values makes joins inefficient | 12:53 |
| cdent | If we can figure out a way to make the column 64 or even 128 that would probably be a good thing. Maybe just do it and wait for someone to complain ;) | 12:53 |
| gordc | oh. probably. but then again the duplicate issue really only pops up when two workers write the same resource at the same time. | 12:53 |
| gordc | normally a unique constraint would catch it but wihtout it, it'd write both. | 12:54 |
| gordc | hmm.. i guess i'll leave it for now and we can treat it once we figure out how often dups can occur. | 12:56 |
| cdent | If we remember... | 12:57 |
| gordc | it's in launchpad... someone will see it.. in a few months...years... | 12:57 |
| cdent | :) | 12:57 |
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| gordc | DinaBelova: do you know if Vadim ever found time to reproduce telemetry bug regarding notification timeout | 13:15 |
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| cdent | eglynn: before you head off can you restamp your stamp upon the following when you get a chance? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110302/ | 13:21 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, sadly we are having huge Mirantis OpenStack testing now, and Vadim is badly busy with it | 13:31 |
| DinaBelova | :( | 13:31 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: :( ok np. i figured i'd ask. | 13:31 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, I remember eglynn and I had idea to try using of some other kind of env - with MongoDB for instance - as notification timeout was not always reproduced in the gate, and *never* locally by Vadim | 13:32 |
| DinaBelova | he tried ~5-6 times to reproduce it locally, no success | 13:32 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: same here. i could never reproduce locally with sql... | 13:32 |
| DinaBelova | and when he decided to use rackspace VM for testing - to be sure it's actually the same env as in the gate - he was distracted with this huge testing task | 13:33 |
| DinaBelova | I decided to propose experimental mongodb job for tempest to try unskip tests and run them in the experimental mode | 13:33 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: i feel like it was because the machines running gate were running on heavy load during the time which caused our services to slow down | 13:33 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, yes, and that's why mongo mmight help us - it loads less | 13:33 |
| gordc | cdent: your devstack patch wasn't related was it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110302/ | 13:34 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, here is the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114514/ | 13:34 |
| gordc | whoops: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113522/2 | 13:34 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, when it'll be merged, I'll unskip nova tests and try this experimental jobs | 13:34 |
| DinaBelova | these* | 13:34 |
| DinaBelova | with mongoDB | 13:34 |
| DinaBelova | it uses a little less resources, who knows, if will help to make that more stable | 13:35 |
| gordc | ok. it'll be good to solve it in sql too... i've added a multiple worker patch so that might help too.. (and it'll allow us to test multiple worker is working) | 13:35 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, cool! | 13:35 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, btw, Vadim tried with sql as well | 13:35 |
| DinaBelova | no result as said | 13:35 |
| DinaBelova | everything was ok | 13:35 |
| gordc | yeah. performance in gate is making things really hard to debug | 13:36 |
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| cdent | gordc: I discovered that problem while getting javelin2 stuff going | 13:47 |
| cdent | But it seems like it could be a source of many random issues. | 13:47 |
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| eglynn | cdent: will do re. https://review.openstack.org/110302 ... thanks! | 14:01 |
| gordc | cdent: yeah that's what i figured... was there a reason you kept collector startup after central and notification agents? no difference i guess? | 14:03 |
| cdent | gordc: I only changed the thing that was broken for now, didn't want to dig further, but if there are other notification oriented things, the same issue may apply. | 14:07 |
| cdent | (also, on the phone, so slow to respond) | 14:08 |
| gordc | eglynn: want to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114428/ while you're at it. | 14:08 |
| eglynn | gordc: looking | 14:08 |
| gordc | cdent: yeah... although i guess if the notifications received a msg, that would assume the mq was up and running already so it would hold msgs until collector started | 14:08 |
| gordc | cdent: i think we're good for now... we can play with it later | 14:09 |
| eglynn | gordc: hmmm, not treated as a vulnerability? ... i.e. a quarantined patch with a CVE etc. | 14:12 |
| eglynn | gordc: ah well, the cat is out of the bag now :) | 14:12 |
| gordc | yeah... ibmer's like to make things public first. i can say that. :) | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 14:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add support for selectable granularity https://review.openstack.org/103435 | 14:27 |
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| eglynn | gordc: re https://review.openstack.org/109058 ... did a similar change in Icehouse, to up the default collector_workers to 2, cause some probs with postgres? | 14:33 |
| gordc | yeah. i didn't backport the multiple workers postgres fix to icehouse. | 14:35 |
| gordc | eglynn: will that cause issues with branchless tests? | 14:35 |
| eglynn | gordc: hmmm, actually we're supressing some/all of the tempest tests on icehouse with that storage:production_ready capability flag | 14:38 |
| eglynn | gordc: ... so probably OK in that sense, though I'm not 100% sure all the tests are actually skipped (or just some problematic ones) | 14:39 |
| gordc | eglynn: is there a specific log i should check to verify this? | 14:40 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: do you know if the storage:production_ready capability flag is used to skip all tempest tests against stable/icehouse? | 14:41 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, Vadim used it | 14:41 |
| DinaBelova | for cinder notifications as far a s I remember | 14:41 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: a-ha, just for that individual test? | 14:42 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, /me trying to find the review and exact place | 14:42 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commit/7bcea356 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Support for per disk volume measurements https://review.openstack.org/111038 | 14:46 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, here it's used in test_check_snapshot_notification method https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67164/44/tempest/api/telemetry/test_telemetry_notification_api.py,cm | 14:46 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, in that change is was decided not to use this api capability - it was the request by Sean | 14:47 |
| DinaBelova | sorry, I can't remember all the detail | 14:47 |
| DinaBelova | that time we could use the hack like - icehouse job is running on icehouse devstack where this too-slow flag was not used | 14:48 |
| DinaBelova | but for the cinder notifications it was the need to use capabilities, and Vadim used them as in the review I listed | 14:49 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: hmmm, I'm only seeing the too_slow_to_test flag used in the nova notification test (i.e not cinder) | 14:50 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, it was the request by Sean | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | a-ha | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | I remember | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | api-capabilities were used for cinder as the problem appeared in the grenade job | 14:51 |
| gordc | so if we add that to all tempests test we should be ok to enable multiple workers? | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | so e could use too-slow flag for the simply defining if it was icehouse or no | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | but it was not enough for the grenade | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, I guess it might cause the grenade problems as well | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | you may try to check only too-slow option | 14:53 |
| DinaBelova | if it'll be enough it'll be cool, as Sean does not like the idea of API dependency in the tests... | 14:53 |
| eglynn | gordc: yep, I think we would need to skip all tempest tests | 14:53 |
| DinaBelova | I mean calling the capabilities api | 14:53 |
| eglynn | gordc: (i.e. skip all on stable/icehouse) | 14:53 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, gordc yes | 14:54 |
| DinaBelova | it's the best solution | 14:54 |
| cdent | is is possible to change the config instead of not run tests? | 14:54 |
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| cdent | if branch is x then iniset something else iniset something else | 14:54 |
| DinaBelova | gordc: you may use too-slow opt to run tests inly if it's set to fasle | 14:54 |
| DinaBelova | and only juno devstack sets it to | 14:54 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: that's fine with me. i think it was common knowledge our sql backend wasn't perfect in icehouse. | 14:54 |
| DinaBelova | yeah :) | 14:55 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, I don't know if you'll have grenade problems | 14:55 |
| DinaBelova | if you'll you'll need to use capabilities api exlpicitly | 14:55 |
| gordc | we'll try landing cdent's patch first then | 14:55 |
| DinaBelova | and grab production-ready thing from there | 14:55 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, ok | 14:55 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: and if the multi worker patch breaks it, we'll need another solution. | 14:56 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, capabilities will work I guess | 14:56 |
| DinaBelova | sorry, need to go | 14:56 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: cool cool. thanks for adding your thoughts | 14:57 |
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| amalagon_ | is jd__ around? | 15:26 |
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| jd__ | amalagon_: yes | 15:31 |
| amalagon_ | hey jd__! I wanted to ask you about the comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103435/11/gnocchi/carbonara.py... this was a while back | 15:32 |
| amalagon_ | I'm not sure how to handle the unserializing if not with the conditional, | 15:33 |
| amalagon_ | as it shouldn't try to unserialize a timeseries archive if it doesn't exist | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: [HBase] Refactor hbase.utils https://review.openstack.org/111270 | 15:35 |
| jd__ | amalagon_: let me check | 15:36 |
| jd__ | I need to plug my laptop, brb | 15:37 |
| jd__ | amalagon_: the thing is that you should always unserialize the whole archive, and specify what granularity you want when fetch()'ing something | 15:42 |
| amalagon_ | I see; but then (stupid question aler) doesn't granularity need to be passed into get_measures in order to get to fetch? | 15:43 |
| amalagon_ | alert | 15:43 |
| amalagon_ | s/aler/alert | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Hakim Rahme proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding quotas on alarms https://review.openstack.org/114581 | 15:46 |
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| jd__ | amalagon_: sure | 15:54 |
| jd__ | it's just that you then pass it to fetch() not unserialize() | 15:55 |
| amalagon_ | ahh, right...thanks | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add support for selectable granularity https://review.openstack.org/103435 | 17:38 |
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| flashgordon | eglynn: I would like to reiterate that I think you are doing a wonderful job as ceilometer PTL | 19:48 |
| eglynn | flashgordon: why, thank you sir! :) | 19:49 |
| * gordc agrees | 19:49 | |
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| flashgordon | eglynn: and that I hope that having the current ML discussion will at least flesh things out | 19:52 |
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| eglynn | flashgordon: do you mean the "future of the integrated release" thread? | 19:52 |
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| flashgordon | eglynn: yup | 19:53 |
| eglynn | flashgordon: agreed, good to get all the concerns out in the open, so that we can act on them | 19:54 |
| flashgordon | eglynn: yup | 19:55 |
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| flashgordon | eglynn: have you see nhttp://hackstack.org/x/blog/2013/09/05/openstack-seven-layer-dip-as-a-service/ | 20:02 |
| * eglynn looks | 20:02 | |
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| * eglynn is happy is that we're in the layer below the turtles | 20:03 | |
| flashgordon | yeah | 20:04 |
| flashgordon | eglynn: another way to slice the issue of focusing on a subset of things and make them better first is: | 20:04 |
| flashgordon | fix layers 1 and 2 first | 20:04 |
| eglynn | flashgordon: small nitpick: Grenade only performs upgrade runs on Layer 1 and 2 services at the most ... | 20:04 |
| flashgordon | then 3 etc | 20:04 |
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| flashgordon | flashgordon: well you guys are working on adding a layer 3 service now right? | 20:05 |
| eglynn | flashgordon: grenade is now an integration requirement ... so we're all piling in on it, including layer 3 ceilometer | 20:05 |
| eglynn | flashgordon: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/grenade-upgrade-testing | 20:05 |
| flashgordon | eglynn: so not clear if the grenade statement is about state of affairs or scope | 20:05 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: hi | 21:43 |
| ildikov | fabiog: sorry, I forgot to set the afk flag | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/pycadf: clean up license headers https://review.openstack.org/110498 | 23:20 |
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