Tuesday, 2014-08-26

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Qiminghi, good morning01:21
Qimingcan someone help take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/136112801:21
Qimingrecent changes to ceilometerclient has broken Heat alarm deletion test, which is a step in deleting a stack01:22
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asalkeldwow: Australian english https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115508/6/ceilometer/locale/en_AU/LC_MESSAGES/ceilometer-log-error.po02:22
asalkelddefs' getting my +2 :-)02:23
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openstackgerritSrinivas Sakhamuri proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Get meters query performance improvements using index  https://review.openstack.org/11674805:09
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openstackgerritSrinivas Sakhamuri proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Get meters query performance improvements using index  https://review.openstack.org/11674806:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/11550806:08
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openstackgerritSrinivas Sakhamuri proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Get meters query performance improvements using index  https://review.openstack.org/11674806:59
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openstackgerritJoe Hakim Rahme proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding quotas on alarms  https://review.openstack.org/11458108:02
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eoutinHello, im struggling with the ceilometer client api. anyone here?09:00
eoutinim retrieving samples (list of Sample objects) about given metrics09:01
eoutinhow to get info inside this Sample object? cannot figure it out09:01
eoutin<Sample {u'counter_name': u'energy', u'user_id': None, u'resource_id': u'compute1', u'timestamp': u'2014-08-22T14:11:10.727000', u'counter_volume': 0.08627901577929656, u'message_id': u'8a494a78-29f5-11e4-8911-c81f66f4d610', u'source': u'openstack', u'counter_unit': u'kWh', u'recorded_at': u'2014-08-22T12:12:09.203000', u'project_id': None, u'resource_metadata': {}, u'counter_type': u'cumulative'}>09:02
eoutini'd like to retrieve the value of  'counter_volume' for example09:03
eoutinOk found out :) sorry guys09:04
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openstackgerritAlexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Switch to use oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/11199009:45
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nsajeDinaBelova: how are you guys testing the central agent partitioning?09:48
nsajeDinaBelova: do you need some more logging output or something similar?09:48
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DinaBelovansaje, yeah, more logs, more services running, more events10:19
DinaBelovansaje, currently we are having problems with lab actually10:19
DinaBelovansaje - the overall testing is around polling of Swift and Neutron10:19
DinaBelovathe problems are with Neutron10:20
nsajewell, I can't provide more services running :-) but I can provide more debug statements in the code, if you think it's needed10:20
DinaBelovansaje, thank you sir10:20
DinaBelovalet me think if we need somethign specifig10:20
DinaBelovaall debug we've added is related actually with lab problems for now10:20
* DinaBelova hopes this will end soon10:20
nsajeDinaBelova: when I was testing it in devstack, I added a bunch of debug statements in the coordination.py file, but I don't know how many of those should actually be in the codebase10:21
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DinaBelovansaje, btw - you just tested one central agent with memcached?10:31
DinaBelovajust interesting :)10:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Switch to oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/11521410:32
nsajeDinaBelova: I tested two compute agents with memcached actually10:37
nsajecompute is easier to test, don't need any additional services in devstack :-)10:37
cdentYeah, that's what I did too10:37
nsaje(you do need to enable compute agent partitioning in the config though)10:37
DinaBelovansaje, hehe, okay, we also wanted to do that10:37
DinaBelovabut actually felt like it'll be better to work with real situation10:38
nsajeDinaBelova: it's the same code path10:38
nsajeDinaBelova: but yeah10:38
nsajeDinaBelova: it's best to test it all10:38
DinaBelovayeah, I know that, but actually with openstack you're never sure it'll work the same in differnet situation :) with different resource types, etc.10:38
DinaBelovansaje, yeah, indeed10:38
* cdent needs more hardware/ram/power/something10:39
DinaBelovacdent, we are using three big enough VMs with multi-node devstack and neutron with swift installed10:39
DinaBelovaand we're running two central agents to check how do they work together10:40
DinaBelovasomehimes OpenStack makes us cry :)10:40
cdentI read an interesting presentation this morning comparing an openstack dev's view of openstack to a sysadmin or ops person's view.10:44
cdentWas quite funny10:44
cdentBut is probably some worthwhile feedback. Too many knobs!10:44
DinaBelovacdent :D10:45
nsajecdent: link?10:50
* cdent digs10:50
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Remove redundant parentheses  https://review.openstack.org/11563210:51
cdentnsaje: It was from some email this morning: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5cZ2y527ClxSXh4bERLam5YY2s10:52
cdent"Who came up with Openstack? Aliens"10:52
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: update requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11631110:55
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tjfhello10:56
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tjfi'm having problems with curl + json-get-data with icehouse... http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/webapi/v2.html#api-and-cli-query-examples are two last json based examples correct?11:01
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove oslo middleware  https://review.openstack.org/11568111:05
DinaBelovajd__, I found one merge issue in your change, fixed it. Won't you mind?11:05
DinaBelova^^11:05
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jd__DinaBelova: what was the issue?11:14
DinaBelovasome things were removed from openstack.common conf and the line that was following lines you removed was removed as well11:15
DinaBelovathat caused merging conflict11:15
DinaBelovajd__ - so I just used current master and your change11:16
jd__oh ok just a rebase then11:16
DinaBelovayes, yes11:16
jd__thanks11:16
DinaBelovano problem11:16
DinaBelova:)11:16
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DinaBelovajd__, hehe, after you merged oslo.utils change we're going to have kind of rebase queue :) almost all current changes need to be rebased :)11:18
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openstackgerritAlexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Switch to use oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/11199011:29
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openstackgerritSt├ęphane Albert proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Added file storage backend  https://review.openstack.org/11026012:09
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openstackgerritPiyush Masrani proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: VMware Vsphere Declarative polling spec  https://review.openstack.org/10513012:13
gordccdent: any update on the grenade test issue? did j0g0 ever get back to you?12:17
cdentno, I was just looking for you to say so12:17
gordccdent: i'll bring it up as a blocker right now.12:18
cdentcool, thanks12:18
gordci'll try and track down joe gordon later12:18
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gordcDinaBelova: is there a reason your tempest revert patch is marked 'do not merged'... aside from fact stupid tempest tests aren't passing consistently.12:37
DinaBelovagordc, no, I just forgot to remove this line when it became ok12:38
DinaBelova>_<12:38
DinaBelovaargh12:38
DinaBelovaone moment12:38
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DinaBelovagordc, done12:39
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gordccool cool12:46
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openstackgerritAlexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Switch to use oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/11199012:49
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gordcAlexei_987: thanks updating your patch. i hope i didn't force you to change it...12:52
Alexei_987gordc: I don't have any preference for each approach12:53
gordcAlexei_987: i guess i'll take blame when it breaks :)12:53
Alexei_987gordc: I'm really interested in mering it ASAP12:53
Alexei_987gordc: cause I'm going to a vacation tomorrow12:53
gordcAlexei_987: cool cool. yeah i was pretty indifferent to either..just wanted to talk about it.12:53
gordcAlexei_987: i'll make sure it gets merged... hoping it doesn't need a rebsae12:53
gordcthanks for reopening patch though.12:54
Alexei_987it's up to date now.. I asked Dina to take care about it if needed12:54
gordcAlexei_987: cool cool. enjoy your vacation dude.12:55
Alexei_987gordc: I will try :)12:55
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openstackgerritSt├ęphane Albert proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Added file storage backend  https://review.openstack.org/11026013:07
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ccrouchnsaje: ping13:33
ccrouchadding you to a hangout13:33
ccrouchif i can figure out how to do that :-)13:34
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ccrouchnsaje: invited added13:35
ccrouchlsmola: ping13:36
lsmolaccrouch: pong13:36
ccrouchcan you send me your google plus name in PM13:37
ccrouchi want to add you to a hangout13:37
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openstackgerritAla Rezmerita proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for alarm quotas  https://review.openstack.org/11201113:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: skip polls if service is not registered  https://review.openstack.org/10489214:14
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: add documentation for setting up api pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/11691714:59
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Verify alarm found before modifying  https://review.openstack.org/11034515:08
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DinaBelovansaje, o/15:19
DinaBelovayou still here?15:19
DinaBelovansaje, several questions appeared in my mind :)15:21
DinaBelovansaje, please ping me when you'll have some time - that's about your HA change :)15:25
gordcDinaBelova: do you know how to configure HA? do you just enable partitioning and start up multiple central agent servers?15:26
gordcservices*15:26
DinaBelovagordc, yeah, smth like that - we've set up coordination section in the conf file, and start two central agents on two different VMs15:26
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DinaBelovagordc, the issue is that they are not sharing the load :)15:27
gordcDinaBelova: that was my next question.lol15:27
DinaBelovathey actually poll the same objects and create the same samples list to be written to the database15:27
gordcit seems like it's just doing duplicates again... so i wondering if i'm configuring wrong15:27
DinaBelovano-no15:28
gordcor missing a configuration step15:28
DinaBelovathat is actually a bug15:28
DinaBelovaa big bug15:28
DinaBelova:)15:28
DinaBelovahehe15:28
DinaBelovathey are HA actually15:28
gordcDinaBelova: yeah... good to know i'm not completely crazy15:28
DinaBelovano-no15:28
DinaBelovayou're ok :)15:28
gordcDinaBelova: :)15:28
DinaBelovawe were checking it for a while15:28
DinaBelovato be sure15:28
DinaBelovawe're not crazy15:28
DinaBelova:D:D:D15:28
DinaBelovalol15:28
DinaBelovagordc - did you try it on mysql?15:29
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DinaBelovait should fail there I guess15:29
DinaBelovabecause of duplicaiton15:29
gordcDinaBelova: why would it fail?15:29
DinaBelovaa-h, no15:30
DinaBelovait'll write duplicate15:30
DinaBelovatwo times more samples15:30
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gordcDinaBelova: right right.. yeah it'll just be flooded with duplicates15:30
DinaBelovayes, ok15:30
DinaBelovaas in mongo id == resource id15:31
cdentI wonder what's wrong with the tests15:31
DinaBelovaso it just rewrites15:31
DinaBelovacdent, sorry?15:31
DinaBelovawhat's up with them?15:31
DinaBelovacdent, I'm lost with the HA :)15:31
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cdentThe units tests for Nejc's changes pass, right?15:32
cdentSo presumably the coordination tests are not good enough.15:32
cdentOr are you testing something else?15:32
DinaBelovacdent, that's not about unit tests15:32
cdentWhat I mean is this: His code is okay in unit tests, but not when deployed, therefore the unit tests are not good enough.15:33
DinaBelovabut about coordination15:33
cdentAs they do not reflect reality.15:33
DinaBelovawell, it's not the unit thing15:33
DinaBelovabut integration one15:33
DinaBelovareally15:33
DinaBelovaI guess it'll be hard to reproduce real situaiton here15:33
gordccdent: yeah, i guess there is a gap... although i'm not sure how we'd test it... unless tooz has some helper function.15:34
gordccdent: i'm hoping there is15:34
cdentI thought there was some kind of fake driver?15:34
gordccdent: sounds familiar based on my quick scan of code.15:34
DinaBelovacdent, it was not working actually :D15:34
DinaBelovasome patches ongoing15:34
DinaBelovaat least for the zake15:34
cdent:(15:34
DinaBelova:D15:34
DinaBelovait was the error there - Julien and I proposed two needed changes15:35
cdentso where do you think the problem is? in the ceilo code, tooz, or zookeeper?15:35
DinaBelovajust to have zake consistent15:35
DinaBelovawell, I still don't know actually - they are not sharing the tasks15:35
DinaBelovathe problem might be in the hash function thing15:35
DinaBelovathing*15:36
DinaBelovaor in the tooz15:36
DinaBelovatwo variants actually15:36
DinaBelovagordc, did you test on memcached?15:36
DinaBelovaor in the zookeeper?15:36
cdentIs there anything I can do to help, or are there enough cooks in the kitchen already?15:36
gordci used memcached15:37
DinaBelovacdent, well, you may try to play with it yourself actually - but I guess gordc & idegtiarov and I is enough for the searches15:37
DinaBelovaa-ha!15:37
DinaBelovaso the issue is not in the backend15:37
DinaBelovawe used zk15:37
gordci didn't want to figure out how to setup zookeeper15:37
DinaBelovain the HA :)15:37
DinaBelovaa-ha, so as said two variant15:37
DinaBelovain the hash function thing or in the tooz15:38
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gordcDinaBelova: i would guess the same.15:38
openstackgerritFabio Giannetti proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Get meters query performance improvements using index  https://review.openstack.org/11674815:39
DinaBelovafolks, I need to go15:39
DinaBelovawill continue later15:39
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DinaBelovagordc, let's find the issue :D will hope I won't sleep when it'll be solved :)15:41
gordcDinaBelova: i'm just going to go to sleep15:41
cdentgordc: you have a chance to have any luck with j0g0?15:42
DinaBelovagordc, ok, I'll continue my late evening then15:43
DinaBelovaI love mysteries15:43
DinaBelova:)15:43
DinaBelovagordc - where are you? I though you just woke up15:43
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gordcDinaBelova: i did... and i'm going right back to bed.lol15:45
gordccdent: nah. ignoring my calls.15:46
* cdent_ wishes he had a good internet connection15:46
cdent_bah!15:46
gordccdent: ttx suggested i bring it up at meeting we have later today so we get more visibility on it15:46
cdent_I suspect that the outcome will be a bit of compromise: the current implementation tries to be as unambiguous as possible but is complex as a result.15:47
cdent_By adding a bit of ambiguity it can be less complex15:47
cdent_But adding abiguity in tests seems like a horrible sin.15:48
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gordccdent: yeah. i think even with ambiguity, as long as we can test for something and verify it that'll be better than nothing15:49
gordccdent: can you write a quick blurb on what exactly we need to figure out? or is it pretty much all contained in that gerrit patch?15:49
* cdent rereads15:49
gordci'll try to reach j0g0 later again... i'm assuming he's in PST based on who he works for.15:50
cdentI think it is mostly there. Largely it has been a case of me slowly moving towards getting things working followed by joe saying "I don't like this, we need to talk more" but then never talking more.15:50
cdentThe current implementation wants this: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043372.html15:50
cdentBut that's one of the things that could go away at the cost of some ambiguity15:51
gordccdent: cool cool15:51
cdentThanks for trying to marshall this stuff...15:51
gordccdent: np. can't wait till eglynn is back so i can go back to deferring.lol15:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Adding quotas on alarms  https://review.openstack.org/11458116:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11009616:45
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Verify alarm found before modifying  https://review.openstack.org/11034516:50
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Verify alarm found before modifying  https://review.openstack.org/11034517:00
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kryptohi with ceilometer,is it possible to monitor custom metric.17:52
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gordckrypto: define "custom"18:01
kryptogordc : application parameters ,like total apache process,mysql connections18:02
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gordckrypto: i see... i mean it's technically possible. you'd have to write up some mechanism to capture the data either via a pollster or notification...18:03
gordckrypto: there's also the ability to post samples via the api.18:03
gordcbut given the examples you listed, it seems like you'll be posting a lot of data.18:04
kryptogordc : so will that be difficult for non programmers,i was hoping to create some bash scripts and use celiometer to call that :-(18:06
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gordckrypto: oh... so you want to use ceilometer to 'poll' a script periodically?18:10
kryptogordc : is it possible ?18:11
gordckrypto: technically yes... but it's not copy/paste easy since i don't think it's ever been implemented in that form before.18:14
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kryptogordc : so basically it monitors cpu and ram for autoscaling... sorry i am new to ceilometer18:15
gordckrypto: no worries.18:15
gordckrypto: well ceilometer can monitor more than just instance information: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/measurements.html18:16
gordcit's just the implementation from what i know hasn't be used before.18:16
gordcthere's a generic polling mechanism in Ceilometer... but they all target some openstack client.18:17
gordcthe implementation you described that is (ie. calling a script)18:17
kryptoThanks gordc18:19
gordckrypto: np. if anything you can propose the implementation be added to ceilometer. someone might offer an easier alternative or might even offer to code it up for you.18:21
kryptogordc : thanks happy to hear that :) :)18:22
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gordckrypto: :) false hope is always nice.18:23
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow to requeue a sample  https://review.openstack.org/11222519:00
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Document pipeline publishers configuration  https://review.openstack.org/11491919:00
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Permit usage of notifications for metering  https://review.openstack.org/8022519:00
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: fix network discovery meters  https://review.openstack.org/11699919:12
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: fix network discovery meters  https://review.openstack.org/11699919:18
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Verify alarm found before modifying  https://review.openstack.org/11034521:58
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