Monday, 2014-10-06

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/12612106:07
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec about central and compute agents merge  https://review.openstack.org/11907708:04
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Don't raise 500 on carbonara NoDeloreanAvailable.  https://review.openstack.org/12598308:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add cfg.CONF.import_group for service_credentials  https://review.openstack.org/12431808:37
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silehtjd__, can you release a new tooz version with: https://review.openstack.org/12623808:46
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Don't raise 500 on carbonara NoDeloreanAvailable  https://review.openstack.org/12598308:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Run unit tests against PostgreSQL  https://review.openstack.org/12591008:53
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jd__sileht: ahha sure08:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Correct JSON-based query examples in documentation  https://review.openstack.org/12400009:00
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add a gnocchi dispatcher  https://review.openstack.org/9879809:10
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: [MongoDB] Fix bug with reconnection to new master node   https://review.openstack.org/12238709:25
jd__sileht: just added a question to be sure I get what you changed on tooz09:29
jd__sileht: let me know if that's ok I'll just +2 approve09:29
openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adds pylint check for critical error in new patches  https://review.openstack.org/12590609:31
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silehtjd__, answered09:36
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jd__sileht: tooz 0.7 released09:41
silehtjd__, thanks09:43
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silehtjd__, we have still the ipc issue in case of the last worker exists without releasing explicitly the lock, sysv_ipc release the lock (via _lock.undo) but does not remove it09:46
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jd__sileht: good catch indeed, we could use atexit() or something?09:47
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silehtjd__, yep we should replace _lock.undo by atexit or a SIG_EXIT catch09:47
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jd__let's try that09:48
silehtjd__, atexit doesn't work on all signal ...09:51
jd__erf09:51
jd__sileht: so should we register for all signals + atexit()09:53
jd__?09:53
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silehtjd__, I don't known the best python way to catch the interpreter exit09:55
jd__seems to be that09:55
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jd__aaahahaa10:02
jd__python2 does not have atexit.unregister10:02
jd__seriously, what were they thinking10:02
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cmystereglynn-office: hey, I am looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106302/ which is merged but https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/arithmetic-transformer says that its a WIP ?11:05
jd__sileht: I don't think there's a good solution to that actually, because we can't make tooz hijack the signal handlers of the application11:08
jd__the only thing we can do is likely document that all locks should be released before exiting an application11:08
jd__I don't think it's a huge problem since if you use locks as context managers it should be ok11:08
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: ==POC== Merge Central and Compute agents to *polling agent*  https://review.openstack.org/12471911:17
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix docs to suit merged compute/central agents concept  https://review.openstack.org/12626211:17
silehtjd__, that works for me11:28
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jd__sileht: ok cool11:28
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: allow to use timespan to define archive policy  https://review.openstack.org/12614011:43
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: add a test on GETing a non existent archive policy  https://review.openstack.org/12613911:43
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: granularity is also a Timespan  https://review.openstack.org/12626911:43
DinaBelovaeglynn-office, did we have rc2 already being created? I suppose not yet, we had some change to be merged... I just thought that is we are going to have rc2 for sure, probably we can take a look on the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122387/ once more, as it was first time assigned to the rc1?11:44
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idegtiarovnsaje: Hi! could you look at patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122387/ ones more. It seems to be completed and probably could be landed?12:38
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eglynn_DinaBelova: we're not certain to have an RC2, depends on agreement from rel mgr12:56
eglynn_DinaBelova: but in any case see my latest comments on https://review.openstack.org/122387 ... I don't think it's quite ready to land12:56
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DinaBelovaeglynn_, argh, yeah, did not see it was not fixed in the proper way13:19
DinaBelovaeglynn_, okay, let's wait anyway idegtiarov will fix it13:19
eglynn_DinaBelova: cool13:19
DinaBelovaeglynn_, np, sorry for the hurry :D13:20
DinaBelovathought it was okay already13:20
idegtiaroveglynn_: thank you for review! Actually I had a problem with the remainder of the iterator, is in python we have possibility to add element back into generator after it was taken from it, or it should be realized with some external function?13:25
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eglynn_idegtiarov: I'd try a pattern like this ...13:29
eglynn_found = self.method(*args, **kwargs)13:29
eglynn_first = found.next()13:29
eglynn_return itertools.chain([first], found)13:29
DinaBelovaidegtiarov, take a look on the chain method https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html13:30
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DinaBelovaa-ha, eglynn_ mentioned it already13:30
idegtiaroveglynn_: thank a lot! will use it13:30
DinaBelovaidegtiarov ^^13:30
eglynn_idegtiarov: you may also have to explicitly handle a possible StopIteration raised from the found.next() (... in the case of an empty iterator to begin with)13:31
gordcuh... anyone with fedora and have devstack working?13:32
idegtiaroveglynn_: thank you for help13:32
eglynn_idegtiarov: np!13:32
eglynn_gordc: I ran into an issue last time I spun one up on f20 ...13:33
eglynn_gordc: the rabbitmq install conflicted with one of the vim packages, vim-common or vim-minimal can't remember which13:33
eglynn_gordc: just manually yum remove'ing the offending vim package, then manually yum install'ing rabbit resolved it13:34
gordceglynn_: hmmm... mine keeps giving me an import error related to oslo.db... and when i look at directory where it's pulling source it doesn't have a single oslo lib13:35
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gordci knew i should've have updated my devstack/projects.13:36
gordcshoudn't*13:36
eglynn_gordc: hmmm, that's a totally different issue ... TBH it's at least a week since I spun a devstack up13:36
eglynn_gordc: fedora20, or?13:36
gordceglynn_: yeah, f2013:37
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eglynn_gordc: hmmm, I'll try spinning up a fresh one shortly as I need to give amalagon's snocchi patches a whirl13:38
amalagono/13:38
eglynn_gordc: ... I'll see if I run into the same issue with oslo.db13:38
gordceglynn_: cool. that'd be much appreciated. i probably messed something else up in my env since no one else seems to be complaining.13:38
eglynn_amalagon: hey, 1:1 time?13:39
amalagonyep!13:39
cdentgordc: i've been devstack on fedora20 since the start13:41
cdentI can do some compare and contrast if you like13:42
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cdentI wiped my /opt/stack a few days ago and updated everything and it seems to go okay13:43
cdenti'll try in a vm now13:43
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gordccdent: cool cool. yeah i was gambling by running devstack locally... finally bit me.13:44
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cdentI run from baremetal too, but not from my main workstation13:45
gordccdent: i tried blowing away /opt/stack/ and devstack and i get the same non-sense.13:45
cdentActually I use the redhat provided laptop as my devstack node because it is otherwise a piece of crap (the hardware) and just ssh in13:45
gordccdent: lol very eloquently put.13:46
cdentit feels a bit traitorous to use a mac as my primary workstation but oh well13:47
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gordccdent: i tried to install ubuntu... i was told those images don't exist.13:49
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gordccdent: eglynn_: apparently, if i remove all oslo* references in /usr/lib/python2.7 it works fine...13:54
gordci guess something changed in the few weeks/months since i sync'd devstack.13:55
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cdentHmm, that may be an artifact of some changes that were made to devstack recently to choose to use or not use oslo.* from git13:55
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eglynn_gordc: a-ha, a refresh of an existing devstack as opposed to a completely fresh spin-up13:56
gordccdent: yeah, i guess so... lesson learned: never update devstack once it works.13:56
cdentI take the opposite approach: I pull and unstack multiple times per day13:57
gordceglynn_: yeah... i should really get a vm so i can start fresh easily.13:57
eglynn_gordc: yeap I generally find less friction by treating my devstacks as disposable cattle, shoot 'em in the head at the first sign of trouble :)13:57
gordccdent: i've noticed that with tempest/grenade devs13:57
cdentthat's where most of my days have been spent lately13:58
* gordc needs to get donuts for IT to give me vm13:58
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: [MongoDB] Fix bug with reconnection to new master node   https://review.openstack.org/12238714:09
idegtiarovDear coreteam please look at the patch it seems to be much better :)14:10
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: allow to use timespan to define archive policy  https://review.openstack.org/12614014:19
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: granularity is also a Timespan  https://review.openstack.org/12626914:19
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implement redesigned separator in names of columns in HBase  https://review.openstack.org/10637614:27
cdentwow, vms are slow14:29
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: dedicated event database  https://review.openstack.org/12599414:29
cdentgordc: I know you've made it past this but just for reference: a from scratch f20 devstack just worked fine for me14:36
gordccdent: cool cool. thanks for verifying.14:38
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: granularity is also a Timespan  https://review.openstack.org/12626915:17
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silehtjd__, it seems that webob doesn't like ∧ in an url ...15:35
silehtjd__, http://paste.openstack.org/show/119016/15:35
jd__sileht: only in Py3 I guess?15:36
silehtjd__, yes15:37
jd__webob bug…15:37
silehtjd__, I wonder why they use they own implementation of url_unquote just got python 3 ....15:42
silehtgot/for15:42
jd__I don't want to know :]15:43
sileht:)15:43
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: granularity is also a Timespan  https://review.openstack.org/12626915:53
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jdandreaI'm setting up a Ceilometer heartbeat alarm using Heat like so: http://paste.openstack.org/show/119024/ ... all of the resources are created. If I shut down the server, however, the alarm never gets triggered. Focusing on the Ceilometer portion, is my alarm definition incorrect?15:56
jdandrea(I asked the Heat team but want to get the Ceilometer team's weigh-in on the alarm portion as well.)15:57
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openstackgerritAjaya Agrawal proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec for MagnetoDB support  https://review.openstack.org/12633516:06
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jdandreaI'll ask it a different way: My understanding is that Ceilometer has a built-in heartbeat metric for nova servers. How do I set that up?16:15
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gordcjdandrea: tbh, not really familiar with alarms. but i'd assume you'd need to build one off instance meter if you want a 'heartbeat'-like alarm.16:43
jdandreaOk. (instance meter? not familiar with that either. Trying to make sense of the docs and looking for examples to learn from.)16:44
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eglynnjdandrea: your alarm expects a meter literally called "Heartbeat" which doesn't exist16:50
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jdandreaeglynn: Exactly.16:56
eglynna-ha /me states the obvious :)16:57
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eglynnjdandrea: so what kind of semantics do you want in such a heartbeat meter?16:57
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eglynnjdandrea: 1 == the ability to ping the instance?16:57
eglynnjdandrea: 1 == the ability to ssh into the instance?16:58
eglynnjdandrea: 1 == something condition evaluated within the instance itself?16:58
eglynn*some condition16:58
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cdentI HATE OO TESTS SO FREAKING MUCH17:43
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jdandreaeglynn: More background. I had a discussion with someone over in #heat where I erroneously concluded that there was already a heartbeat meter. As for what the semantics were, I was never able to find documentation on it. It could be a ping failing, sure.17:48
* jdandrea has only used Ceilometer in terms of Heat templates (for creating alarms).17:49
jdandreaI understand there are status messages from nova that go over the bus as well. I don't know if this can be made use of.17:50
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eglynnjdandrea: actually one of the cisco contributors (erivni) was recently working on a PoC heartbeating pollster based on pinging the instances17:57
eglynnjdandrea: ... I'll check if she's planning to contribute this17:57
jdandreaeglynn: That would be wonderful (and appreciated). Thank you.17:57
jdandreaI'm looking at the message queue as well ... just to see if there's something useful there that could factor in to a meter.17:58
eglynnthat might be quite specific to the admin interfaces exposed by rabbitmq versus qpid18:01
jdandreaeglynn: Ah.18:03
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: add ElasticSearch driver backend for events  https://review.openstack.org/12639518:52
cdentyou're just full of good spec ideas gordc18:55
gordccdent: whether i implement them properly or not is another thing. :)18:59
cdent:)18:59
cdentHas there ever been talk about having some drivers in different repos?18:59
gordccdent: i won't take full credit for elasticsearch bp though... it was something from a while ago that wasn't implemented slash didn't make sense at the time18:59
gordccdent: what do you mean by drivers in different repos?19:00
cdentLet me put it a slightly different way:19:00
cdentThe ceilometer repo is (to me) freaking huge and contains code for loads of different services, plugins and storage implementations19:00
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gordccdent: ok... yeah i see where you going. :)19:01
cdentIt would be possible to gain a lot of comprehensibility and testability by having some things in smaller repos19:01
cdentthe smaller repos make for better boundaries between things19:01
cdentwhich makes testing more clean and clear19:01
cdentIt could make sense for there to be ceilometer, the framework/library and then "other stuff"19:02
gordccdent: yeah i think that seems to be the general theme we're discovering across openstack.19:02
gordccdent: i wouldn't mind a split. i haven't really considered the impact on infra/packaging though.19:02
cdentyes, that's the tricky bit...19:02
cdentbut then that might force the issue on making change in the infra stack19:03
cdentpackaging though, could be a problem. I was talking with zigo about it a few days ago and he was not keen19:03
gordc:) i've no idea how packaging works... i just go to sleep and hope its in a box with a bow on top in the morning.19:04
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cdent\o/19:05
cdentchristmas!19:05
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gordclol exactly.19:05
cdentAw mom, thanks, just what I always wanted.19:05
gordci think there's quite a bit of redundant/oddly located code that could we could refactor before we consider a big split though.19:05
cdenttrue19:06
cdentor it could be that a big split would make the refactoring more likely to happen19:06
gordci was hoping to get that in before summit before the madness of new features comes in.19:06
cdentas an organization we all have a lot of intertia19:06
gordctrue true19:06
* cdent is not overly interested in features19:06
gordccdent: fall in line! we need more features!19:08
cdentbah, the featuers we've got are barely usable19:08
gordci believe that's what a manager would say... /me wouldn't know.19:08
* cdent is not overly good with lines19:09
cdentI wanna color here, and here, and here.19:09
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gordccdent: yeah. i think we need to hash out some clear use cases... i guess one of the nice things of people raising bugs.19:10
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include a 'node' key and value in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/12639719:10
cdenthmm, that's a lame commit summary19:10
* cdent fixes19:10
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include a 'node' key and value in ipmi metadata  https://review.openstack.org/12639719:11
gordcbiab. grabbing coffee19:11
* cdent waves19:11
cdentI'll be gone and done for the evening in moments.19:12
gordccdent: cool cool. ttyl.19:15
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: dedicated event database  https://review.openstack.org/12599419:26
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