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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/146021 | 06:08 |
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| eglynn-office | jd__: ... on that python-tooz-0.10 RPM build failure from last night | 09:19 |
| eglynn-office | ... it turns out that there's an older version of python-oslo-sphinx floating around in the Fedora & EPEL repos | 09:19 |
| eglynn-office | ... which is what caused the python-tooz-0.10 build failure in koji | 09:19 |
| eglynn-office | ... so, I've rebased python-tooz-0.10 internally for the RH distro, which gets us over the hump for now | 09:20 |
| eglynn-office | ... but I'll also need to get python-oslo-sphinx updated upstream before I can rebase the public (f20+/epel7) versions of python-tooz to 0.10 | 09:20 |
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| jd__ | eglynn-office: ok | 09:26 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn-office, jd__ - I've just prepared some kind of docco with some my questions about current gnocchi structure... here it is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gnocchi-architectural-questions - as I'm still on vacation till today, I'd love to discuss these moments on Monday if that's convinient for you :) so if you'll have some time, please take a look on these quesitons :) | 11:17 |
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| eglynn-office | DinaBelova: cool will look shortly | 11:19 |
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| jd__ | DinaBelova: ok I'll reply inline, feel free to follow-up on Monday | 12:41 |
| sileht | /1/1 | 12:44 |
| sileht | oups | 12:44 |
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| jd__ | DinaBelova: :) | 13:07 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, hehe, /me is just trying to find my jeans to go to Nadya and her husband to the nice dinner, and I've seen you're writing :) | 13:08 |
| DinaBelova | could not help reading that :) | 13:08 |
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| jd__ | hehe | 13:12 |
| jd__ | have a nice evening then DinaBelova and say hi to Nadya :) | 13:12 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, yes, for sure :) | 13:12 |
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| jdandrea | Reality check Q: Given a KVM instance created w/o Nova, is there any way for Ceilometer to collect the KVM performance data? | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Support ceilometer-url and os-endpoint https://review.openstack.org/137486 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Initial statsd daemon implementation https://review.openstack.org/146117 | 15:33 |
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| gordc | ildikov: is there a bug/patch for boto issue you mention? | 15:43 |
| ildikov | gordc: the global-requirements patch is already merged | 15:44 |
| ildikov | gordc: I need to check the nova patch | 15:44 |
| gordc | ildikov: i see... so i guess recheck won't do anything (sorry i have no idea what the issue is) | 15:44 |
| ildikov | gordc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146049/ | 15:45 |
| gordc | cool cool | 15:45 |
| ildikov | gordc: so we need to wait until it gets synced | 15:46 |
| gordc | ildikov: crap. accidentally hit publish on my recheck comment.lol | 15:47 |
| ildikov | gordc: according to zuul it still does not work | 15:48 |
| ildikov | gordc: well, maybe you will be lucky, you can never know :) | 15:48 |
| gordc | :) | 15:48 |
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| ildikov | gordc: I don't know what went wrong with boto, maybe some format changes somewhere or they introduced a bug | 15:49 |
| ildikov | gordc: when I last checked the nova chanel they did not know the root cause | 15:49 |
| gordc | that sucks... oh well... i'll let smarter people deal with that. | 15:51 |
| ildikov | gordc: I tried to check, but then I had other things to do | 15:52 |
| ildikov | gordc: hopefully the requirements change will help soon | 15:52 |
| gordc | lol "I had other things to do" same for me. | 15:52 |
| ildikov | gordc: :) | 15:53 |
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| kallebe | Good afternoon. I don't know if this is the best place to ask, but I would like to know if it is possible to use Ceilometer to monitor(by polling) some hardware which is not part of OpenStack. This hardware would have a REST API which would respond with some usage data (used disk, temperature, etc). | 16:31 |
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| gordc | kallebe: possibly? you'd have to create a new pollster that made appropriate calls to your service's API, and built Samples from the response. | 17:03 |
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| gordc | there's no generic "pollster-which-calls-rest-service-add-url-here" framework available though | 17:04 |
| cdent | that would probably be a reasonable thing to exist though... | 17:05 |
| kallebe | gordc: thanks for the answer. So, we were thinking about where this polling agent would be located, if it would be inside a Nova VM or inside the hardware itself, which would notify the operator when some threshold would be exceeded | 17:06 |
| gordc | kallebe: well we have an ipmi and compute inspector... not sure what metrics you're looking to capture exactly | 17:08 |
| gordc | kallebe: going to grab lunch quickly... feel free to keep typing and i'll try to reply later. (or someone else will) | 17:08 |
| kallebe | right, thanks again | 17:09 |
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| kallebe | the hardware provides filesystem, so we would want to use Ceilometer to monitor the filesystem usage and, in case a defined threshold is exceeded, to notify the operator so he may choose to resize/expand the filesystem | 17:11 |
| kallebe | and this REST API provides the value for usedBlocksInMegaBytes, which would be the main thing we would like to monitor | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher https://review.openstack.org/146142 | 17:25 |
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| gordc | cdent: ^^ saving me from more work. thanks! | 18:17 |
| cdent | gordc: huh, what, how, where? | 18:17 |
| cdent | ah, got it | 18:18 |
| gordc | :) | 18:19 |
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| cdent | I was quite surprised it didn't already exist. | 18:20 |
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| gordc | cdent: yeah, i guess when we broke apart collector into notification agent and collector we kept assumption they would continue working together. | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/140049 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: stop using private timeutils attribute https://review.openstack.org/145914 | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/146164 | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Initial statsd daemon implementation https://review.openstack.org/146117 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/140049 | 18:38 |
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| kallebe | So, here I am again. We were thinking about where this polling agent would be located, if it would be inside a Nova VM or inside the Ceilometer node or inside the system/hardware itself. We are not sure if it is possible to put this polling agent in another machine. We are thinking about using a similar approach to what CERN did in http://pt.slideshare.net/noggin143/ceilometer-lsfintergrationopenstacksummit | 18:58 |
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| gordc | i | 19:07 |
| cdent | gordc: quick question, does the mongo implementation support pagination? it looks like it does but the capabilities output says otherwise... | 19:08 |
| gordc | cdent: does it? i've always been under impression pagination was never completed... is it access from api? | 19:09 |
| cdent | Maybe I don't understand pagination but looking at the code there seems to be some support for it, but perhaps the api doesn't pass it along? | 19:10 |
| * cdent doesn't really know how to tell | 19:10 | |
| gordc | kallebe: i think it depends on what load you expect from polling agent and where you can actually retrieve the data. might be something you need to play around with. | 19:10 |
| * gordc looking | 19:10 | |
| kallebe | ok, thanks again for all your help. I think the load would not be very much. The periodicity would not be too small. | 19:12 |
| kallebe | but only a last question: do you know if it is possible to install a Ceilometer agent in a machine outside OpenStack? | 19:13 |
| gordc | cdent: there's code... it's not complete: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/storage/impl_mongodb.py#L795-L796 | 19:13 |
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| kallebe | because according to documentation, we have this: "Polling agent might be run either on central cloud management nodes or on the compute nodes (where direct hypervisor polling is quite logical)." | 19:13 |
| cdent | ah, I see gordc | 19:14 |
| cdent | the git log was a bit misleading | 19:14 |
| gordc | kallebe: if you can send it to a common mq | 19:14 |
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| kallebe | gordc: I will link here an image trying to convey what I am thinking about the architecture, ok? Just a second | 19:16 |
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| kallebe | gordc: something like this http://i.imgur.com/4at5iGU.png?1 | 19:17 |
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| kallebe | EmilienM: are you that guy from CERN? If so, I would like if you could clarify something for me regarding Ceilometer in CERN ( http://pt.slideshare.net/noggin143/ceilometer-lsfintergrationopenstacksummit ). In the third slide, is the batch specific instance a physical machine or a VM? | 19:26 |
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| EmilienM | kallebe: I work for eNovance :-) | 19:27 |
| EmilienM | where did you see CERN? | 19:27 |
| EmilienM | lol | 19:27 |
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| kallebe | yes, I don't know why haha Sorry. I think it is because I saw your commit on CERN github, or so I thought | 19:28 |
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| EmilienM | kallebe: which commit? | 19:28 |
| kallebe | I will see if I can find. | 19:29 |
| gordc | kallebe: your design could work... i mean you could theorectically place your agents/collectors on any machine and use MQ to transmit data between them. | 19:29 |
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| EmilienM | gordc: I don't like the RabbitMQ beside Collector | 19:29 |
| gordc | EmilienM: i don't like you sitting next to me. | 19:30 |
| kallebe | Ok, gordc, thanks for having the patience to help me :) I was a little bit confused about where I could use Ceilometer, but I think it will work. :) | 19:30 |
| EmilienM | gordc: lol | 19:30 |
| gordc | kallebe: np. good luck. i think you'll need to play around with it when you actually deploy to see what works best. | 19:31 |
| kallebe | EmilienM: I think it was this file in cernops here :) https://github.com/cernops/puppet-ceilometer/blob/master/manifests/collector.pp I was trying to find the source code for their Ceilometer agent plugin related to those slides but I could not find it | 19:32 |
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| EmilienM | kallebe: they forked puppet-ceilometer from stackforge, indeed. I worked on this module | 19:33 |
| kallebe | ok, gordc, I will try those approaches to see which one is the best for this case | 19:33 |
| kallebe | EmilienM: yes, I did not know that. | 19:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative HTTP testing for the Ceilometer API https://review.openstack.org/146187 | 19:46 |
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| kallebe | Going home now. Thanks for all your help and have a nice day :) | 19:55 |
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| EmilienM | gordc: we should go home also | 19:57 |
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| gordc | EmilienM: can you go back to your desk? | 20:01 |
| EmilienM | gordc: I can't | 20:03 |
| gordc | EmilienM: d'accord, c'est bon. | 20:03 |
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