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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/155197 | 06:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swami Reddy proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add ceph object storage meters https://review.openstack.org/151763 | 09:25 |
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| cdent | the ceilo tests seems to be spewing way more debug info than they used to, or am I'm just misremembering? | 12:10 |
| ildikov | cdent: on the gate? | 12:14 |
| cdent | no, locally | 12:14 |
| ildikov | cdent: I had this experience with elasticsearch tests IIRC | 12:15 |
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| cdent | it looks like it might have something to do with network stats | 12:16 |
| ildikov | cdent: well, we have quite lots of them, so that can be a candidate too | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Destroy fixture database after each gabbi TestSuite https://review.openstack.org/156968 | 12:30 |
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| cdent | sigh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1423171 | 13:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1423171 in Ceilometer "regex filtering with postgresql backend fails" [Undecided,New] | 13:13 |
| cdent | and that's not the only postgres bug | 13:13 |
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| cdent | jd__: If you've got time, if you could stick your +2 back on my wsme change that would be awesome: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154066/ | 13:31 |
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| gordc | https://lobste.rs/s/kjn5an/recommended_reading_for_building_time_series_databases | 13:41 |
| gordc | pretty funny evaluation of current tsdbs | 13:41 |
| jd__ | cdent: you got it | 13:42 |
| gordc | jd__: maybe your canonical backend might be best. | 13:42 |
| cdent | thanks jd__ | 13:42 |
| jd__ | gordc: "The state of the art, apparently, is total shit." cool | 13:42 |
| jd__ | the bar seems pretty low, that works for me :D | 13:42 |
| gordc | :) | 13:43 |
| jd__ | well at least Carbonara goes down to the nanosecond | 13:44 |
| cdent | Huh, I'm surprised to see kragen cursing so much, he must be disappointed | 13:44 |
| gordc | nanosecond ftw! | 13:44 |
| gordc | cdent: do you follow that site? i have zero context except that i googled "kairosdb vs influxdb" | 13:45 |
| gordc | and i found his review so entertaining | 13:45 |
| cdent | No, I don't, but I do know kragen (the author of the comment) | 13:45 |
| gordc | i see... i don't know if it's worth picking his mind? not sure what the current state of influxdb/opentsdb support is in gnocchi. | 13:47 |
| cdent | He can be a bit hard to find, but I can see if I can dredge him up. | 13:50 |
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| gordc | cdent: no worries. i was just throwing random idea out there in case he was without shooting distance. | 13:51 |
| ityaptin | gordc: I work with support | 13:51 |
| ityaptin | gordc oprntsdb and influx in current gnocchi | 13:51 |
| gordc | ityaptin: have you noticed any issues? again i should add my entire experience is this (hilarious) thread | 13:52 |
| cdent | gordc: I've tweeted at him, will let you know if I get anything | 13:54 |
| ityaptin | gordc: issues with aggregation methods in archive_policy and using a ArchivePolicy class instead dict | 13:54 |
| gordc | cdent: you kids and your technology | 13:55 |
| cdent | gordc: I was all keen to ask you something this morning, when you weren't here, and now I can't remember what it was. very frustrating. | 13:55 |
| jd__ | cdent: owned by pep8 | 13:55 |
| cdent | argh | 13:56 |
| gordc | cdent: yes, i would like a free porsche. you have your answer | 13:56 |
| cdent | maybe I just wanted to get you to provide me context on this bit of awesome+sad melange: https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/openstack-is-doomed-and-it-is-your-fault | 13:57 |
| cdent | anyway: I'll bet you a beer that I'm older than you gordc | 13:57 |
| gordc | cdent: TERMIE is back! | 13:57 |
| cdent | jd__: that's bizarre. passes in check but not gate | 13:58 |
| gordc | cdent: yeah i know, i'm just joking since i don't understand twitter | 13:58 |
| * cdent digs | 13:58 | |
| cdent | pooh, clearly I need to work on my age ambiance | 13:58 |
| cdent | my youthful vigor is not properly shining through | 13:58 |
| cdent | ah yes, those are new pep8 rules | 13:59 |
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| gordc | cdent: the best way i can describe termie is would be to riff on a famous quote: some people see things and say why, termie see things and says why not... (and then throws a bomb at it). | 14:02 |
| cdent | that's a nice description | 14:03 |
| cdent | There's a lot to agree with in his descrption of doom. | 14:04 |
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| gordc | cdent: didn't read it but i will not argue. | 14:04 |
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| linuxhermit | how do you get access to lobste.rs? | 14:05 |
| cdent | It's actually quite positive | 14:05 |
| cdent | linuxhermit: you mean to comment? I think you have to ask an existing user to invite you | 14:05 |
| cdent | it is trying to create a social graph of responsibility | 14:05 |
| cdent | you've been vouchsafed in some fashion | 14:05 |
| * cdent doesn't have an account | 14:05 | |
| linuxhermit | ahh cdent | 14:05 |
| linuxhermit | do we talk to postgres via sqlalchemy? | 14:06 |
| linuxhermit | if so I might be able to lend a hand there as well | 14:06 |
| cdent | linuxhermit: yes | 14:06 |
| cdent | jd__: those problems were in master, so I fixed them: https://review.openstack.org/157005 | 14:12 |
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| jd__ | did we lose eglynn this week btw? | 14:28 |
| gordc | jd__: i think he answered a ping on monday... but i might have been dreaming | 14:29 |
| jd__ | gordc: do you often dream of people from #openstack-ceilometer? | 14:29 |
| gordc | jd__: i dream of electric sheep | 14:30 |
| cdent | i have dreams of gordc dreaming of electric sheep and there are paper unicorns there | 14:30 |
| gordc | i wish there were unicorns... your dream is better. | 14:31 |
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| ityaptin | :-D | 14:32 |
| idegtiarov | sileht: hi! probably that patch could be landed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149259/8 WDYT? | 14:36 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: he's on vacation this week | 14:39 |
| idegtiarov | gordc: thanks! | 14:39 |
| gordc | np | 14:39 |
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| gordc | if anyone is bored, please check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130869 | 14:54 |
| cdent | "this patch aims to improve write performance" Does it? | 14:55 |
| gordc | cdent: see patchset 8 comments for my local "performance" results | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gnocchi: Add volume resource https://review.openstack.org/149259 | 14:56 |
| gordc | cdent: it's been a while since i've looked at this... but i don't think anything has changed. | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gnocchi: rest: implement complex query for resource listing https://review.openstack.org/156678 | 14:57 |
| cdent | huh, better, but not awesomely so. | 14:57 |
| cdent | well, I guess depends on the scale | 14:58 |
| gordc | cdent: i'm not claiming miracles. :) | 14:58 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: thank you for your +A | 14:58 |
| cdent | you work miracles all the time gordc, given the available materials... | 14:59 |
| gordc | cdent: i'm open to readjusting if needed... it's just kinda bothering me that i need to keep rebasing. | 14:59 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: np! (... apols for the missed ping yesterday, caught up in some internal stuff) | 14:59 |
| * cdent nods | 14:59 | |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: i have one more question, do we need a spec for new transformers that we are going to use in event pipeline | 14:59 |
| gordc | cdent: where's that unicorn... i need it for my miracles. | 15:00 |
| cdent | IT'S ONLY IN MY DREAMS | 15:00 |
| * cdent weeps for the lost miracles | 15:00 | |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: well the usual principle would apply ... a spec would be required if the change is complex, intrusive, and/or could benefit from further discussion before any code is written | 15:01 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: ... and not be needed is it's relatively simple and/or the way forward is self-evident | 15:01 |
| * gordc pours some booze on the ground... to what could have been but never was | 15:01 | |
| cdent | one for me and one for my dead unicorns | 15:02 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: cool, will write a spec! )) | 15:03 |
| gordc | cdent: noooo!!!! a dark twist.lol | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add an option to disable non-metric meters https://review.openstack.org/156747 | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add option to store raw notification https://review.openstack.org/153790 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: modify events sql schema to reduce empty columns https://review.openstack.org/130869 | 15:10 |
| gordc | eglynn: thanks for review. added a response. | 15:16 |
| eglynn | gordc: coolness, looking | 15:17 |
| gordc | eglynn: thanks! i can finally move the card from my trello board. (hoping it doesn't fail) | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | gordc: np! | 15:26 |
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| cdent | gordc these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of. | 15:45 |
| gordc | cdent: had to google it... i should really watch that movie. | 15:46 |
| * cdent dies | 15:46 | |
| gordc | ... and star wars... | 15:46 |
| cdent | meh | 15:46 |
| gordc | ok so big lebowski step one. | 15:47 |
| gordc | citizen kane? | 15:47 |
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| cdent | not managed to sit through the whole thing, only seen bits and pieces | 15:47 |
| gordc | big lebowski it is then. weekend viewing | 15:48 |
| cdent | I expect a full report next week. | 15:48 |
| gordc | will do :) | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: rest: replace list+filter by search mechanism https://review.openstack.org/157046 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: service: validate default values https://review.openstack.org/154111 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: archive_policy: have a sane default list of agg methods https://review.openstack.org/154108 | 16:11 |
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| cdent | jd__: SEARCH? which RFC has that? | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Add OpenTSDB storage driver https://review.openstack.org/107986 | 16:15 |
| cdent | (anything other than 5323?) | 16:16 |
| jd__ | cdent: no just 5323 | 16:16 |
| jd__ | that's enough for me to be creative | 16:16 |
| cdent | heh :) | 16:16 |
| jd__ | since there's a builtin fallback on _method= I'm not too worried | 16:16 |
| cdent | Are you invested/interested in aligning with API work group proposals/guidelines? | 16:17 |
| jd__ | cdent: yes | 16:17 |
| jd__ | cdent: did they produce anything useful or is it just a group of bike shedder? | 16:18 |
| cdent | Well I think it is fair mixture of both | 16:18 |
| cdent | And not too far along | 16:18 |
| jd__ | I don't want my productivity to go down | 16:18 |
| cdent | They seem to be overly concerned with representations and not enough with healthy HTTP | 16:18 |
| jd__ | cdent: aren'y you in it btw? | 16:18 |
| cdent | never made official because I'm not core | 16:19 |
| jd__ | "representations"? | 16:19 |
| jd__ | core of what? | 16:19 |
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| cdent | ceilo | 16:19 |
| jd__ | pfff | 16:19 |
| jd__ | is that you or them considering that? :) | 16:19 |
| cdent | Oh I don't care, I considering myself a member of the group and I seem to be listened to when I say stuff. | 16:19 |
| jd__ | with big tent'ing approaching you'll be core of anything so it seems lame to consider that | 16:19 |
| jd__ | ah ok cool | 16:20 |
| cdent | But I can't be the _official_ ceilo rep according to some guideline or other. | 16:20 |
| jd__ | core are not specials said someone | 16:20 |
| jd__ | lol | 16:20 |
| jd__ | cdent: you want me to write a letter of delegation? | 16:20 |
| cdent | Anyway, I'll leave some comments on the spec. | 16:20 |
| jd__ | hahaha bureaucracy to its top | 16:20 |
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| jd__ | s/to/at/ | 16:20 |
| cdent | Only if you sign it in gold ink and stamp it with a big seal and wax | 16:20 |
| jd__ | (Totally open to correction, but I thought that required the search criteria to be specified in XML?) | 16:24 |
| jd__ | that troll eglynn | 16:24 |
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| eglynn | jd__: LOL ... I should really take to twitter and hone my trolling skills there :) | 16:25 |
| * eglynn reads back | 16:25 | |
| eglynn | cdent: I thought we'd agreed with jaypipes that the core-only BS wouldn't be enforced on the api-wg? | 16:25 |
| cdent | I never heard any official word, but didn't care, and just carried on. Nobody minds. | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: rest: replace list+filter by search mechanism https://review.openstack.org/157046 | 16:25 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yeah we'd have fun :p | 16:26 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... yeah I remember discussing it with Jay on IRC, and him at least loosely aggreeing with the principle | 16:26 |
| jd__ | I wish HTTP methods would be less rigid | 16:27 |
| * cdent shuns jd__ | 16:27 | |
| eglynn | meh, yeah, with the fallback to POST+_method=SEARCH seems reasonable | 16:28 |
| cdent | the small number of methods is what makes it grand | 16:28 |
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| eglynn | cdent: you fundamentalist, you! | 16:28 |
| * cdent is a shunner | 16:28 | |
| cdent | somebody has to do it in this chaotic world! | 16:28 |
| jd__ | I would have use GET instead of SEARCH with a body, but that's not even valid :( | 16:28 |
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| cdent | maybe the core problem is that the query logic is naff | 16:30 |
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| cdent | (but I recall talking about that nearly a year ago) | 16:31 |
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| jd__ | cdent: re fixture, I was talking about config_fixture | 16:36 |
| cdent | you have to reset it by hand, if you want to run another test suite in the same process | 16:37 |
| jd__ | test suite manipulate the conf? | 16:37 |
| cdent | (at least that's been my experience) | 16:37 |
| cdent | yes, it changes the database that is being used | 16:37 |
| cdent | and various other things | 16:37 |
| jd__ | ok | 16:38 |
| cdent | basically the idea is that at the start and end of each suite we start fresh and then clean up | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Base infrastructure to support gabbi tests https://review.openstack.org/156601 | 16:45 |
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| eglynn | cdent: FYI good vibes on gabbi at the cross-project meeting last night | 16:57 |
| eglynn | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-02-17-21.00.log.html#l-103 | 16:57 |
| cdent | that's good to hear | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed stackforge/gnocchi: refactor indexer.sqlalchemy https://review.openstack.org/157066 | 17:10 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: Hi ...I have updated the code as per your comments and uploaded the patch set#8...Can you please let me know, if you other comments on this patch? | 18:15 |
| swamireddy | gordc: patch url - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151763/ | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gnocchi: Base infrastructure to support gabbi tests https://review.openstack.org/156601 | 18:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: cleanup measurements page https://review.openstack.org/156106 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: check metering_connection attribute by default https://review.openstack.org/154222 | 18:23 |
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| cdent | gordc, jd__ : https://twitter.com/kragen/status/568117229201580033 | 18:39 |
| cdent | "but for now we're using some files" | 18:39 |
| pas-ha | hi all, looks like ceilometerclient release is long overdue, please see bug #1423291 | 18:40 |
| openstack | bug 1423291 in python-ceilometerclient "ceilometerclient needs a new release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423291 | 18:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: start recording error notifications https://review.openstack.org/153362 | 18:40 |
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| gordc | cdent: ah cool. "some files" - the best db there is. | 18:47 |
| gordc | swamireddy: sure thing | 18:48 |
| cdent | given that it's kragen it's entirely possible that when he says "some files" he means "a custom data structure that I made up in my mind that solves everything ever" | 18:48 |
| swamireddy | gordc: Thank you. | 18:49 |
| gordc | cdent: ... that's some serious reputation he has... i would open a bank account and have people drop money in with no conditions and i would decide what to work on... if i had that credibility. | 18:50 |
| cdent | i must ease my eyes | 18:52 |
| cdent | later | 18:52 |
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| gordc | swamireddy: minor comment... i think it's good to go after that. | 18:55 |
| gordc | let me know if i need to clarify | 18:55 |
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| gordc | swamireddy: one more comment. | 18:57 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: /me checking the comments | 19:05 |
| gordc | swamireddy: cool cool | 19:06 |
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| gordc | for anyone with release powers: ->> https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/1423291/ | 19:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1423291 in python-ceilometerclient "ceilometerclient needs a new release" [Undecided,New] | 19:13 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: I will chang the namedtuple declaration to the module level and use the same in the test also.. | 19:21 |
| swamireddy | gordc: But with the package adding to test-requirement.txt needs clarification...can you plz? | 19:22 |
| gordc | swamireddy: sure. so generally, if ceilometer services only require a lib for an optional path, we don't add the new lib to requirements but rather test-requirements. | 19:23 |
| gordc | so for instance: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/test-requirements.txt you see oslo.vmware in test-reqs only because if you're using libvirt you don't really need oslo.vmware | 19:24 |
| gordc | basically all the driver related libs are usually in test-requirements and not requirements.txt | 19:25 |
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| gordc | swamireddy: ...i just read your comment in gerrit. apologies for dumbing it down so much. :) | 19:26 |
| gordc | swamireddy: let's move it to test-requirements... you were incorrectly told to move it to requirements.txt | 19:27 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: cool...If the lib (ie requests-aws) moved to test-requirement.txt, then when a user really to get the ceph meters, then the rgw_client.py may fail, because it can not fin this lib... | 19:29 |
| swamireddy | gordc: Do I miss somthing here?? | 19:29 |
| swamireddy | gordc: tox test works fine, the lib included in it... | 19:29 |
| gordc | swamireddy: yes. they would need to purposely install the client themselves | 19:29 |
| gordc | sorry client -> lib | 19:30 |
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| gordc | i guess it's whether we want to install everything, even if the operator doesn't it need it... or install minimum and require operators to finish off the missing requirements. | 19:31 |
| gordc | we took the latter. | 19:31 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: ok, got it. Is this same for other libs also? | 19:31 |
| swamireddy | gordc: sure, I got it...thanks | 19:32 |
| gordc | swamireddy: hmm.. i'm not sure. trying to think of another project which has as many different drivers as us. | 19:33 |
| gordc | (that isn't neutron) | 19:33 |
| wolsen | gordc, cinder? | 19:34 |
| gordc | wolsen: sure. (won't lie, i've zero experience with contributing to cinder) | 19:35 |
| gordc | cinder doesn't seem to have drivers in test-reqs only... i guess it's not a consistent rule across projects. | 19:36 |
| wolsen | gordc, I was just suggesting it has the same kinds of issues - multitude of drivers with each driver having various dependencies... but I guess the dependencies are handled by the drivers not in the test harnesses | 19:36 |
| gordc | i believe glance has their backends in test but i'm just guessing | 19:37 |
| gordc | wolsen: ah i see. | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: unicode error in event converter https://review.openstack.org/155501 | 19:49 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add an option to disable non-metric meters https://review.openstack.org/156747 | 19:53 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: how about making the Bucket namedtuple to the class level instead of module level? | 20:32 |
| swamireddy | gordc: In the module, other class never use this namedtuple..so Its good to be @ class level....Is this make meaningful? | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Storage Layer Implementation for Pipeline Configuration https://review.openstack.org/142592 | 20:38 |
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| gordc | swamireddy: sure... i guess my main point would be to have test not redeclare the namedtuple. | 20:41 |
| swamireddy | gordc: thats possible with class level itself (not neede module level).. | 20:44 |
| gordc | yep | 20:44 |
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| gordc | whichever way is fine with me. | 20:45 |
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| swamireddy | gordc: Updated with class level as that class only use the Bucket namedtuple...and testing is in progress...once testing done..will submit the patch... | 20:56 |
| gordc | swamireddy: awesome | 20:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swami Reddy proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add ceph object storage meters https://review.openstack.org/151763 | 21:15 |
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| gordc | fabiog: made some tweaks to the 'non-metric' meters patch... please have a look when you have time | 21:40 |
| gordc | there's some discussion i patchset 3 as well. | 21:40 |
| fabiog | gordc: sure, I will | 21:42 |
| gordc | fabiog: cool cool | 21:42 |
| fabiog | gordc: regarding the pipeline granularity, I think when we implement the PATCH method in the API we can go to the level of Sinks and Sources | 21:43 |
| fabiog | gordc: I am not so sure it is viable to apply changes a the meters: publishers: transformers: and so on | 21:43 |
| fabiog | gordc: those stuff do not even have a unique id or name, so it will be difficult to map them in a REST API | 21:44 |
| gordc | fabiog: right. it won't be possible in your patch (and will add quite a bit of complexity). | 21:44 |
| gordc | fabiog: tbh, i'm fine with that because i don't have a requirement to support it... i can't remember who suggested the idea originally so they might be more critical of that decisions | 21:45 |
| fabiog | gordc: maybe when I will work on the separation of notifications from polling we could re-factor the pipeline, adding unique identifiers for the different parts we want to modify | 21:45 |
| gordc | fabiog: sure. seems reasonable. | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: modify events sql schema to reduce empty columns https://review.openstack.org/130869 | 21:46 |
| fabiog | gordc: also transformers are nearly impossible to map into sql ;-) | 21:46 |
| gordc | fabiog: yeah. agreed. the sql first approach would probably not be my first choice but i guess it's a TC requirement? | 21:47 |
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| fabiog | gordc: I guess is to simplify the testing env | 22:01 |
| fabiog | gordc: maybe we should ask to allow "special" deployment for the "big data" services, I guess in the future there will be more of those | 22:02 |
| gordc | fabiog: i'm not sure there is a real sql first requirement. tbh, right now, we don't really have a great alternative (mongodb will destroy you within a week if you don't know what you're doing) | 22:04 |
| gordc | i guess that's another discussion | 22:05 |
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