Thursday, 2015-04-16

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Use Archive Policy Rule in create metric api
openstackgerritZhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Take place of metrics with meters in option and doc
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/gnocchi: Adds missed history param into IndexerDriver list_resource method
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Adds missed history param into IndexerDriver list_resource method
jd__sileht: does not work :( if you something else you want to try…07:52
silehtjd__, wierd I use same kind of trick for oslo.messaging07:53
jd__sileht: typo? IDK :)07:53
silehtjd__, got it, you must use : DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG+=$'\nexport LIBS_FROM_GIT=oslo.db\nexport OSLODB_BRANCH=1.8.0'07:55
silehtjd__, this is a devstack flags, not a gate flags07:55
jd__sileht: ok I'll update the patch!07:55
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: sqlalchemy: use RDBMS check constraint where available
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Add CLI for Capabilities REST API
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jd__sileht: can you review ?08:27
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silehtjd__, I hate the dict interface for object08:28
sileht(to access attributes)08:29
silehtsometimes we use obj[attr], sometimes obj.attr ...08:30
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jd__sileht: which objects?08:33
silehtjd__, the one that come from sqlalchemy08:33
silehtjd__, oslo.db add this interfaces08:33
jd__sileht: I always used . never []08:33
jd__I don't think we rely on []?08:33
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: TEST: disable oslo.db dict interface
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: TEST: disable oslo.db dict interface
silehtjd__, most of the tests fail ^08:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: broadcast data to relevant queues only
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jd__sileht: that's artefact in the tests of when we used to return dict09:47
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jd__at least I hope :D09:47
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silehtjd__, yes clearly, but because of this interfaces we have missed them09:47
jd__sileht: so can I cut the branch now?09:53
silehtjd__, looks good09:54
jd__sileht: also still a fail though I might did something wrong?09:54
jd__ok let's RTFM about doing branches in Gerrit lol09:54
silehtjd__, 1.8 is installed here:
silehtjd__, but because we depends on ceilometer this is overriden here:
jd__sileht: yeah but requirements.txt not updated I guess ?09:56
silehtjd__, I have to go, but I wonder if with this capping stuffs we haven't broken something in gate in general09:58
jd__sileht: oh yeah it's definitely a terrible idea…09:58
silehtjd__, I have gate jobs that use LIB_FROM_GIT, if that does work anymore ...09:58
jd__sileht: see you later!09:58
openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add Mysql pagination for resource, meter and sample
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Return detailed metric info on create
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silehtjd__, for the oslo.db version we are stuck until is merged, LIBS_FROM_GIT is broken since we have added cap to requirements12:38
silehtjd__, and once this review have been merged, we have to wait that everyone sync the requirements (ceilometer should be enought for us) ...12:40
gordccdent: there's a ML item on wsme. since it's your favourite project...12:45
cdentoh cheers, thanks gordc12:46
cdentI do love it so12:46
cdentAh yes, Lucas and I have talked about this in the past.12:47
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gordccdent: yeah, it looks like he shares our thoughts... 'can we dump it?'12:47
jd__sileht: :(12:48
cdentI'll shall give it a bit before piling on12:48
cdentI think a) kill it, kill it with fire! b) some cores probably ought to be added12:49
cdentbut mostly KILL12:49
cdentjd__: I forget did I mention this to you yesterday: it's related to what you were saying about making more of gabbi as a validation tool12:50
jd__cdent: yeah I saw it, that's 👍12:51
gordcman, i have to backport a lot of stuff to stable/kilo :(12:52
cdentcool, I was putting it off but then realized it would be handy for demo-ing and caved in12:52
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gordcsileht: do you know how to wrap exceptions in python? re:,cm13:09
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gordcsileht: google says it's difficult:
silehtgordc, let's remove the whole block, so :p13:11
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gordcsileht: :) i think i had that originally but i kept it so it would attempt to write all the events before failing.13:13
gordcsileht: although if you look at code, there's only ever one event.13:14
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gordci'll leave it for now and add comment.13:15
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: cleanup problem events logic in event db storage
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gordcanyone have something they want in ceilometerclient master? i'm going to tag 1.1 against HEAD.13:32
silehtgordc, oh got it I have missing that sorry13:35
gordcsileht: no worries.13:35
silehtgordc, but we keep only the latest error now13:36
gordcjd__: for the gnocchi work, it doesn't solve the issue where derived samples (ie. cpu_util) get reset right?13:37
silehtgordc, anyway the most important thing is to raise something, so13:37
gordcsileht: yeah... that's a good point. so you think we should raise right away? i guess my reasoning was if we keep requeuing the same payload, it'll always fail at the same spot and not process the stuff after the bad event13:38
jd__gordc: depends on what you want to do?13:39
silehtgordc, the requeue thing is in case mysql raise no connection in pool, or a connection timeout because the backend is busy13:39
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jd__obviously it's the day you want to release you realize you don't have the right permissions13:40
silehtgordc, but yeah this is not very good, but we can't really do better I think13:40
gordcjd__: i'm just thinking of when we use cputime to compute util... the cputime we poll will still get reset so our util value will still be wrong the first sample after reset13:42
gordci guess not a big issue.13:43
gordcsileht: i see.. i didn't realise it was just for connection issues. (although i guess that makes sense)13:44
jd__gordc: again it depends on at you do and what kind of aggregation you use :)13:44
gordcsileht:  there is this bug
openstackLaunchpad bug 1434322 in Ceilometer "Collector continuously re-queues sample when dispatcher reports persistent error when requeue is enabled" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3)13:44
jd__gordc: because I think for things like average() it does not make sense anyway so yeah it's broken but it's not a big deal13:45
gordcjd__: ah i see... so it'll really only be an issue if you have super granular policy, or when you are rolling stuff up (in certain cases)13:47
silehtgordc, yeah but how to != persistant error from connectivity error ? , and for the max_retries thing we must shared data between collector like the ticket explain13:47
jd__gordc: yeah you can just use the last() aggregation mechanism to have the latest value for a period of X minutes of time and then handle the reset case yourself to do your computation13:48
gordcsileht: yeah... it's a non-trivial thing. and i don't know how often it happens in real life.13:48
jd__gordc: the only thing we *might* be missing is the information that this is a metric that is measuring something that can reset13:48
jd__gordc: this has to be in the client intelligence for now13:48
gordcjd__: agreed. want to track in low prio bug?13:49
jd__gordc: sounds good, want to open one? :)13:50
gordcjd__: dang it. i see you have mastered the technique of deflecting13:50
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jd__gordc: you'll have it after a year of PTLing13:57
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openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Ceilometer alarm-threshold-update should support updating project-id and user-id, but the update function was silently ignoring changes of these options.
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: update README.rst to help release process
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: cleanup specs
eglynncdent: just looking at
* eglynn is also struggling to see the applicability to ceilometer14:45
eglynn(given that sql-a is effectively second tier, whereas mongo is effectively schema-free)14:45
cdentYeah, eglynn, I was hoping the author would come back and say how it matters.14:48
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cdentIs it irony that meeting that just followed us is "large deployment team"?16:01
gordccdent: stop reading into things16:01
* cdent has almost but not quite schizophrenia16:02
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rjaiswal_nadya_, idegtiarov: Is multiple pipelines still an important use case for you  -
gordccdent: you should be worried when they stop arguing16:03
_nadya_rjaiswal: yep, we've found some important use cases16:03
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rjaiswal_nadya_: can you elaborate and also review, ?16:04
_nadya_rjaiswal: will do it today16:06
_nadya_rjaiswal: thanks for pointing16:06
rjaiswal__nadya__, great, thanks. it will be good to have your comments16:06
cdentgordc, I think enough "time" has passed to "respond" to that wsme thread16:07
cdentmonty has had his piece16:07
gordc_nadya_: i think the big thing would be why a db16:08
gordc_nadya_: and why we need a public api... (ie. why do you edit config so often?)16:09
gordccdent: are you jumping in?16:09
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gordccdent: "i tried to fix something... but the code made me crazy"16:09
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idegtiarovrjaiswal, are you going to change spec for "another that is based on the file-based pipeline"?16:10
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rjaiswalidegtiarov: eventually, if we dont get eough approval for the current spec16:11
idegtiarovrjaiswal, got it will take a look for spec today too16:11
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rjaiswalidegtiarov: so the point is wil the file-based approach be good for your requirement, ie multiple pipelines16:12
rjaiswalif not, then which one would you prefer16:12
idegtiarovrjaiswal, it seems to be easier in implementation but seems not flexible enough16:13
rjaiswalidegtiarov, yes assuming we go ahead with the file-based, your requirement is unmet and needs another spec for multiple pipelines16:14
_nadya_gordc: I see your point :) I was against storing in db too16:14
rjaiswalidegtiarov and __nadya__: any suggestions for accomodating multiple pipelines are welcome.16:16
gordc_nadya_: yeah, i was ok with it initially on paper... but then i saw it in code and it started to scare me... but yeah i guess main point would be to present use cases as Tim Bell mentioned.16:16
gordcand then start small16:17
_nadya_gordc: I like the idea about having some 'sync' tool for config files. Maybe even using Tooz16:17
rjaiswal__nadya, gordc: I agree, i covered it as Alternative 2 in
_nadya_gordc: but still not sure. Maybe the first step should be having smth easier16:19
_nadya_rjaiswal: cool, I will definitely take a look16:20
gordcrjaiswal: yep. i think that's the minimal approach. i asked the ops guy beside me, and Alternative 4 seemed like a good idea16:21
gordche didn't really understand the api bit.16:21
rjaiswalgordc: seems like we are heading towards achieving reloading and mananging multiple configs without an api, then16:22
gordcrjaiswal: that's just my 2cents... i think my main worry was just security.16:24
gordcbbl. grabbing lunch16:24
rjaiswalgordc: sure, they have a point there16:25
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ildikovgordc: _nadya_: one thing regarding to store the pipeline config in db was to allow some more flexibility in the config, like based on projects as opposed to meters for instance not to talk about even more fine grained options16:40
ildikovgordc: _nadya_: but I will jump on the review and add my comments there as Rohit already quit16:42
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: cleanup problem events logic in event db storage
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: fix access to metric for owned resources
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cdentthere ya go gordc, I added something to the session list, and started a related etherpad:
gordccdent: i assume 'probably several' means 'weeks' and not 'slots'17:52
cdentoh sorry I completely misread that17:52
cdentI had gotten it in my head as "Requires a full spec"17:53
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Uncap library requirements for liberty
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: print user friendly error message for alarm update time constraints
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ashishjainSomehow I feel that there is an issue with ceilometer19:20
ashishjainIs ceilometer supposed to work only with nova driver19:21
ashishjainand not docker drivers?19:21
ashishjainfor nova19:21
gordcashishjain: docker driver as in an alternative hypervisor driver to kvm, hyper-v, etc...?19:27
ashishjaingordc: okay  so basically it is just being used to create a virtual machine which enables you to run docker containers19:29
ashishjaingordc: But than in that case ceilometer should be able to get the stats. Because if I am not wrong ceilometer would be hypervisor agnostic19:30
ashishjainanything running on compute node should be traceable by ceilometer. please correct me if I am wrong19:31
ashishjainI am able to get all the stats when I run a plain vanilla VM when I use the libvirt driver19:32
ashishjainbut once I switch to docker driver I do not see any stats in ceilometer19:32
ashishjainDoes it require a config change somewhere, I don't think so. Please advice19:33
gordcashishjain: sorry, was pulled into a meeting.19:45
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear a problem with its event stream. any gerrit changes updated or approved between 19:14 and 19:46 utc will need to be rechecked or have their approval reapplied for zuul to pick them up19:46
gordcso the compute agent isn't actually hypvisor agnostic. we actually have different inspectors for libvirt/hyper-v/vmware/xen.19:46
gordcashishjain: i'm not that familiar with the docker solution to be honest but if you're switching out libvirt for docker than i think we'd need to write another inspector to support that.19:47
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gordcashishjain: unless there's a way to do this at another outside the compute nodes (against apologies but i'm not familiar with the docker solution).19:48
ashishjaingordc: thanks for your pointers and explanation on this.19:50
ashishjaingordc: Can you please point to an existing source code for other hypervisors I would want to see it and may be try something for docker19:50
gordcashishjain: yep. so if you look at the github link above you can see each of the hypervisors we currently support19:51
ashishjaingordc: thanks I got it19:51
gordcashishjain: np. the best way i find is just grab one of the hypervisors you know and copy the general format (exchanging calls as necessary).19:53
gordcif you get it working, it'd be great to have it upstream19:53
ashishjaingordc: thanks, can I touch base in the same irc channel for any help I may need while looking at the code19:54
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gordcashishjain: sure thing. just a heads up, the majority of the ceilometer devs are based in Europe/Asia so you might get a better response during those hours19:56
gordcbut there's a few of us around during Americas hours too... and night owls in europe.19:56
ashishjainohh okay sure thanks for this gordc19:57
* cdent hoots19:59
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gordccdent: :) i can sleep when you guys are awake right? that's the rule?20:01
cdentnot any more20:02
cdentnow that you are ptl sleep is not an option20:02
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: fix access to metric for owned resources
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