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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/193976 | 00:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Minor changes for evaluator service https://review.openstack.org/196519 | 03:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add 'event' type and 'event_rule' to alarm API https://review.openstack.org/195376 | 04:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | shubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Author: shubham_chitranshi Date: Mon 29th June 2015 10:20 AM (Indian Standard Time) https://review.openstack.org/196535 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | shubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Author: shubham_chitranshi Date: Mon 29th June 2015 10:20 AM (Indian Standard Time) https://review.openstack.org/196535 | 06:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/aodh: Initial translation import https://review.openstack.org/196552 | 06:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | shubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Author: shubham_chitranshi Date: Mon 29th June 2015 10:20 AM (Indian Standard Time) https://review.openstack.org/196535 | 07:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] The start of a grenade plugin for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/196441 | 08:23 |
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| cdent | jd__: if you're about can you put your stamp on this (if it deserves it): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196045/ I don't want to be a bad boy and merge my own patch | 08:46 |
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| _nadya_ | cdent: hi! | 09:01 |
| cdent | good morning | 09:01 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: I have some questions about your devstack plugin. Actually, how should it work?:) Now when I'm getting a devstack I just add ceilo-services into localrc and that's all. I guess that the plugin will be used by devstack somehow? Looks like I missed some discussions about it | 09:04 |
| jd__ | cdent: sure | 09:04 |
| cdent | _nadya_: One the plugin is in place and devstack itself has been updated to not have ceilometer then the way to turn on ceilometer is to have a line like this in your localrc/local.conf: | 09:05 |
| cdent | line 7 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196384/2/devstack/plugin.sh,cm | 09:05 |
| cdent | thanks jd__ | 09:05 |
| cdent | by default the settings file (in that same review) has it that all the services from ceilo will be enabled, you can disable some of them in the usual way: 'disable_service ceilomieter-aipmi' etc | 09:06 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: aha, I see. Is it a devstack requirement to have plugins in each project? | 09:07 |
| cdent | It's not a requirement yet, but it is a goal to get most stuff moved out to plugins | 09:07 |
| cdent | the win for us is that it allows a lot more flexibility on making changes | 09:07 |
| cdent | which I figure given the splits happening, is going to be an issue | 09:08 |
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| cdent | Basically: I figured that we need to have a solid example of a plugin that we control so that we can then devolve some of the plugin functionality to devstack plugins we create in the split off repos | 09:08 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: yep, sure. And it will be easier for us to merge to our repo, not to devstack each time | 09:09 |
| cdent | yes | 09:09 |
| _nadya_ | ok! thanks | 09:10 |
| cdent | The tricky bit now is figuring out the proper procedure for merging the giant stack of related changes | 09:10 |
| jd__ | gordc_: cdent: just checked but actually sileht will be back next Monday :) | 09:10 |
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| cdent | jd__: what's the standard pto amount there in france? | 09:11 |
| jd__ | cdent: 30-35 days / year | 09:12 |
| * cdent moves to france | 09:12 | |
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| jd__ | cdent: legal minimum is 25 | 09:12 |
| _nadya_ | folks, I'd like to discuss one Gnocchi-related question with you. About API. If we want use Influx without Indexer (it's theoretically possible I guess) we may implement corresponding stuff in the storage lvl. But now we have Indexer calls in REST (https://github.com/openstack/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/rest/__init__.py#L547 ) Is it ok to move it deeper? | 09:17 |
| _nadya_ | jd__, cdent ^^ | 09:18 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: not as a first step | 09:19 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: but as a second or third step definitely | 09:19 |
| cdent | When influxdb came up on the mailing list recently I suggested the random idea that maybe the indexer interface is also influxdb (the same one storage is using) | 09:20 |
| _nadya_ | jd__: ook, what should we wait for? | 09:20 |
| ityaptin | jd__: What do you see as a first step in this activity? | 09:20 |
| cdent | so basically both interfaces are talking to the same backend | 09:20 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: having a driver that use the standard indexer | 09:20 |
| jd__ | or what cdent said if that can work too | 09:20 |
| cdent | I don't actually know if that _can_ work, it just seems like it would be cool if it could. | 09:21 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: yep, right. We decided to use this idea but failed on REST level :) | 09:21 |
| cdent | :( | 09:21 |
| cdent | bummer | 09:21 |
| cdent | how/why did it fail? | 09:21 |
| _nadya_ | jd__: aha, I see. So first you merge the current code which is on review:)? | 09:22 |
| cdent | (aside: it's such a shame we don't regularly do collaborative code development ... just collaborative code review) | 09:22 |
| ityaptin | jd__: Do you mind if i fix merge confict and InfuxDb api conflict in your InfluxDB storage patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165407/ ? | 09:22 |
| ityaptin | jd__: Currently in patch we use "name" when write datapoints, but InfluxDB expects a "measurement" field. Same issue between "timestamp" and "time" fields | 09:23 |
| ityaptin | cdent: We didn't see to move all indexer activity to InfluxDB but want to write resource metadata as tags in InfluxDb points for fast filter queries and simplification of UI plugins. | 09:24 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: when we do this https://github.com/openstack/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/rest/__init__.py#L518 we call indexer. But we don't want it in case of Influx. So we may don't want to call Indexer interface on REST lvl | 09:24 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: yeah I'd like to have the current driver finished and merged | 09:26 |
| cdent | so yeah, what I'm suggesting is that when you call methods on the influx implementation of the indexer class, it will call into the storage implementation to get the information it needs | 09:26 |
| jd__ | ityaptin: no go ahead, you can update the patch as you wish! | 09:26 |
| cdent | that's the benefit of having _interfaces_ isn't it? | 09:26 |
| * jd__ voted for virtual mid-cycle and all | 09:27 | |
| * cdent gives jd__ a gold start | 09:27 | |
| cdent | star! | 09:27 |
| cdent | Perhaps now that you've crossed the line jd__ others will too | 09:29 |
| cdent | I'm taking it that you are using the A vote to also signal your '+'? | 09:29 |
| jd__ | I certainly hope so | 09:29 |
| jd__ | cdent: oh yeah let me add that | 09:29 |
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| jd__ | damn aodh is live https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/aodh/ | 09:37 |
| jd__ | I know what I'm gonna do this week | 09:37 |
| cdent | yeah, that happened yesterday | 09:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Create a devstack plugin for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/196384 | 09:40 |
| cdent | jd__, _nadya_ ^ that can be review and merged without impacting the normal devstack. It will make it easier to test in more ways if it is merged. I tested it pretty extensively over the weekend. So if you get a chance to review/think about it today that would be awesome. | 09:42 |
| jd__ | cdent: ah that looks awesome! | 09:42 |
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| cdent | jd__: there's also this which is the other side of the coin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196383/ | 09:43 |
| jd__ | ceilometer, always bleeding edge | 09:44 |
| cdent | s/edge// | 09:44 |
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| jd__ | :D | 09:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Replaces methods deprecated in pymongo3.0 https://review.openstack.org/196611 | 10:03 |
| jd__ | is it going to pass? suspense | 10:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fawad Khaliq proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Pluggable network metering drivers https://review.openstack.org/196621 | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Divya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Add user/project information to Ceilometer Event Model https://review.openstack.org/196624 | 10:39 |
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| _nadya_ | jd__: I see that you are voting for mini-sprint for alarm split, could you please add a list of questions to discuss here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-liberty-midcycle-agenda? It would be helpful for planning | 11:30 |
| _nadya_ | jd__: I've made smth like an example in Graceful pipeline section | 11:31 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: k | 11:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fawad Khaliq proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Pluggable network metering drivers https://review.openstack.org/196621 | 11:37 |
| _nadya_ | cdent: it's hard to choose among the topiŃs without descriptions:( Could you please remind what is "polling nova improvements"? Refuse from polling, listen for updates? | 11:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix abstract `process_measures` method signature https://review.openstack.org/196634 | 11:56 |
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| ityaptin | jd__: ^^^ | 11:56 |
| ityaptin | jd__: Could you take a look? | 11:56 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: I also hope that you take a look to patch https://review.openstack.org/196634, too. | 11:58 |
| * cdent looks | 11:58 | |
| ityaptin | cdent: Thanks! | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Replaces methods deprecated in pymongo3.0 https://review.openstack.org/196611 | 12:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Disable msgfmt in pep8 https://review.openstack.org/196635 | 12:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Divya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Add user/project information to Ceilometer Event Model https://review.openstack.org/196624 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/gnocchi: InfluxDB storage driver https://review.openstack.org/165407 | 12:09 |
| cdent | ildikov_: I just sent some more email to the os-dev list about how to add more detail to the topics | 12:22 |
| cdent | general topics only on the voting page, more details on the agenda page | 12:22 |
| ildikov_ | cdent: ok, cool, sorry for the mess | 12:22 |
| cdent | No worries, I probably should have made it more clear from the start | 12:23 |
| ildikov_ | I also wasn't 100% sure that the production ready Gnocchi topic would cover this too, but now the item is at the right place | 12:23 |
| cdent | I think we can and probably should lump all the gnocchi stuff into one chunk of time | 12:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Divya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Add user/project information to Ceilometer Event Model https://review.openstack.org/196624 | 12:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Aleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Indexes changes in mongodb https://review.openstack.org/196645 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Aleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Indexes changes in mongodb https://review.openstack.org/196645 | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Fix abstract `process_measures` method signature https://review.openstack.org/196634 | 13:01 |
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| gordc | therve: if possible, could you verify if this patch works? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196330 | 13:16 |
| therve | Sure | 13:16 |
| gordc | therve: thanks! (i'd do it myself but i'm not sure how to run heat integration tests) | 13:17 |
| therve | gordc, Me neither, I'll ask the gate :) | 13:17 |
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| gordc | therve: :) | 13:25 |
| gordc | that works too | 13:25 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: did you ever have a plan for proposing project_id be a mandatory param? | 13:35 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: In what context do you mean? :) | 13:35 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: I had a plan to introduce project based pipeline config, which would obviously need it, but we never got there, as it would require the db-based config for instance | 13:36 |
| ildikov_ | but for hw meters for instance, not Ironic managed ones, we will not have any | 13:37 |
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| ildikov_ | if we are talking about events, I guess it can be a reasonable proposal | 13:38 |
| _nadya__ | cdent: sorry, I was ought to go. Thanks for answers in ML :) | 13:41 |
| gordc | ildikov_: sorry, got pulled into side discussion | 13:41 |
| gordc | ildikov_: i was thinking more about project id importance as it seems like all the api access rules/use cases seem to revolve around project id | 13:41 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: np, I can always fall back to write mails... :) | 13:42 |
| gordc | ie. you can only access data in your project. | 13:42 |
| gordc | resource is important but it seems from ACL and data management POV, project is just as important | 13:42 |
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| ildikov_ | yeap, when we talk about non-admin users it is | 13:43 |
| ildikov_ | I mean not just from data collection PoV, but in general | 13:43 |
| ildikov_ | it is, what I referred to in case of the event alarms that data without project_id should not be accessible for everyone for instance | 13:44 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: yeah... maybe the idea is that if there's a project id, it's scoped... if it doesn't exist, it's admin only data? | 13:44 |
| gordc | is that how it functions now? maybe that's how it should? | 13:45 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: this is my opinion for sure | 13:45 |
| gordc | ildikov_: cool cool. i think i'll look at how it behaves currently. | 13:45 |
| ildikov_ | I'm not sure about the current state, I wrote in that review as a desired way of functioning, I haven't checked | 13:45 |
| ildikov_ | I planned to check though, but I couldn;t get there | 13:46 |
| gordc | ildikov_: ok. i'll check maybe tomorrow. | 13:46 |
| gordc | ildikov_: will let you know when i do. | 13:46 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: cool, thanks much | 13:47 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: did you ask because of the schematization or some similar topic? | 13:47 |
| gordc | ildikov_: sort of? i'm always secretly pushing schematisation | 13:48 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: I volunteer to join to the mission :) | 13:49 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: maybe we can consider some less secret way too :) | 13:49 |
| gordc | ildikov_: google "how long to travel to pluto" that will be a quicker mission than schematisation in OpenStack | 13:51 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: LOL :) | 13:52 |
| gordc | ildikov_: did you have any ideas? i'd assume the easy push would be to have resource_id in standard place | 13:52 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: I like challenges ;) | 13:52 |
| gordc | ildikov_: i commented on the message format for Heat. i suggested they put certain values in same place as CADF (since audit part was not necessary for them) | 13:53 |
| gordc | i am also heavily CADF biased. | 13:53 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: yeap, that review is in my queue too :S | 13:54 |
| gordc | i don't know if they are making any progress or if they decided how'd they proceed | 13:54 |
| ildikov_ | CADF is good, although I don't know how suitable it is in general for all the notifications | 13:55 |
| ildikov_ | I didn't really expect fast movement there TBH | 13:55 |
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| ildikov_ | I think if we start with the resource_id as a first step it's ok | 13:55 |
| gordc | ildikov_: yeah, it's too verbose for non-audit use cases, my suggestion was to keep the values that do overlap in same place. | 13:55 |
| ildikov_ | I will try to follow what Nova guy's are planning with their notifications | 13:56 |
| ildikov_ | I hope they will get there to have schemas, if yes, then it would be beneficial to cooperate with them in their notification tidy up work | 13:57 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: agree. is there a spec related to their schema? | 13:57 |
| gordc | for nova | 13:57 |
| ildikov_ | but that's in the same shoe as always, it's important, but there are more important things to do... | 13:57 |
| ildikov_ | they fight with resource bandwidth issues quite heavily and this task would really require some cores | 13:58 |
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| ildikov_ | so no spec yet as far as I know | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Indexes changes in mongodb https://review.openstack.org/196645 | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Implementation of dynamically reloadable pipeline https://review.openstack.org/190842 | 14:12 |
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| dulek | cdent: Hi! | 14:14 |
| cdent | Hi dulek | 14:14 |
| dulek | cdent: I've seen your commit to DevStack adding Redis for ceilometer coordination. | 14:14 |
| * cdent nods | 14:14 | |
| dulek | cdent: We're now exploring tooz in Cinder and tooz-based service groups in Nova. | 14:14 |
| cdent | cool! | 14:14 |
| dulek | cdent: I wonder if ceilometer has a gate testing itself with Redis as coordination backend? | 14:15 |
| cdent | I don't _think_ so. gordc you recall? | 14:15 |
| cdent | I think there was some discussion about making it happen but I don't know that it ever did | 14:15 |
| dulek | cdent: Okay, thanks, then probably Nova will be first as they require it. :) | 14:16 |
| dulek | cdent: Another question is - from what I could see in your DevStack's commits right now it doesn't consider multinode DevStack deployments? | 14:17 |
| cdent | I can't remember who it was now, but there was a some discussion about trying to get some infrastructure in place for many of the drivers that tooz can use. I suspect what happened is that instead of just saying "how about we just stick to redis" too much was wanted all at once. | 14:17 |
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| cdent | the ceilometer use of redis at the moment assumes there is only one redis server | 14:18 |
| cdent | however tooz can support using redis-sentinel | 14:18 |
| dulek | cdent: Oh, and Redis will be installed on that redis-server only. | 14:18 |
| cdent | s/use of redis/use of redis in devkstack/ | 14:18 |
| dulek | cdent: Okay. | 14:19 |
| cdent | yeah, and if you were to have multiple compute nodes that needed their ceilometer-compute-agents to coordinate, they'd talk to the same server | 14:19 |
| cdent | but that's just a limitation of the way it is currently set up in devstack, not an actual limitation | 14:19 |
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| dulek | cdent: In Nova case we would need some kind of logic to decide where to install Redis and where not. And maybe redis-sentinel clustering of these nodes... | 14:19 |
| dulek | cdent: Yeah, this would just require more work, nothing else. | 14:20 |
| dulek | cdent: Okay, thanks a lot for clarifying on that! :) | 14:20 |
| cdent | Let me know if there's any way I can be helpful if stuff comes up later. | 14:21 |
| dulek | cdent: Okay, thank you for this offer. | 14:23 |
| rjaiswal | gordc, cdent et al: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190842/ up for review, please take a look, thanks | 14:23 |
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| gordc | cdent: there is none that i know of. | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: [MongoDB] Use a aggregate pipeline in statistics https://review.openstack.org/172340 | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move aodh.alarm.storage to aodh.storage https://review.openstack.org/196722 | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move 'alarm_connection' to 'connection' https://review.openstack.org/196723 | 16:05 |
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| earnThis | can ceilometer be used as a standalone tool? | 16:17 |
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| edmondsw | gordc, what is the ceilometer spec deadline for liberty? | 16:30 |
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| edmondsw | I see test-requirements on master now requires pymongo>=3.0.2 ... does that mean MongoDB >=3.0.2, or does pymongo 3.0.2 work with an older MongoDB 2.6 or something? | 16:44 |
| edmondsw | this says MongoDB minimum version is 2.4, and I'm wondering if that is still accurate: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/manual.html | 16:47 |
| edmondsw | eglynn, dhellmann, jd__ can one of you answer those questions? | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | edmondsw: I would expect the client library to work with an older version of the service, but I don't know whether that's true or not. I'm not sure what the spec deadline is. | 16:48 |
| edmondsw | tx... yeah, haven't found anything definitive with google so far | 16:49 |
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| jd__ | I don't know either | 16:51 |
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| ityaptin | edmondsw: Hi! Do you need this table? http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/drivers/python/#mongodb-compatibility | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move aodh.alarm.storage to aodh.storage https://review.openstack.org/196722 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move 'alarm_connection' to 'connection' https://review.openstack.org/196723 | 16:55 |
| edmondsw | ityaptin, yes! thank you! | 16:56 |
| ityaptin | jd__: jd: I am going to add some improvements to InfluxDB storage patch for support all gnocchi requests with current data scheme if you don't mind | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Add support for posting samples to notification-agent via API https://review.openstack.org/196330 | 17:00 |
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| gordc | edmondsw: i don't think there's a formal date. generally 2 weeks before *-3 release. so mid-august. | 17:21 |
| edmondsw | gordc, tx... I thought it was much later than nova | 17:22 |
| gordc | edmondsw: we're not that strict on it... that said, if it's a highly opinionated feature, it's best to get it in asap | 17:22 |
| edmondsw | yep | 17:23 |
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| thorst | Hi All. Does anyone know who to add for a new global-requirement? My proposed Ceilometer change (for the base PowerVM inspector support) is blocked until I get that new global requirement added...but I wasn't able to find who to add for global-requirements reviews (or an IRC for it). | 17:51 |
| gordc | thorst: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/131,members | 17:52 |
| gordc | your best bet might be sdague since he's a Nova person | 17:53 |
| thorst | gordc: Thanks! | 17:53 |
| gordc | thorst: np | 17:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: set default limit to meter/sample queries https://review.openstack.org/196792 | 18:33 |
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| gordc | dhellmann: do you know if something is wrong with requirements auto-patching? we're getting this is ceilometer: http://logs.openstack.org/76/193976/8/check/gate-ceilometer-requirements/8ff2661/console.html#_2015-06-29_01_32_45_173 | 18:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: WIP add mandatory limit value to event list https://review.openstack.org/196827 | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove unused event query https://review.openstack.org/196831 | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/193976 | 20:26 |
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