Thursday, 2015-07-02

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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Introduce Guru Meditation Reports into Ceilometer
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Make ceilometer work correctly when hosted with a SCRIPT_NAME
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add count functionality for listing event
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openstackgerritKamil Rykowski proposed openstack/ceilometer: Versioned object RPC serializer for alarms
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cdent_nadya_, jd__, gordc_af1 :
_nadya_cdent: great! yesterday me and ildikov discussed what 'sprint' means, could you please provide your vision :)?10:40
cdenthanging out on irc while working on the same codebase10:40
cdentbasically what we do all the time, but more focused10:41
cdentfor example if we do an aodh spring10:41
cdentsprint, sorry10:41
cdentif we do one of those, jd__ might say "can someone do X" and someone will do that while he's doing something else10:41
cdentand we'll have that lovely sense of "oh look at us, getting stuff done together"10:41
_nadya_cdent: aha, I see. May we remove my sprint vote from testing then? :)10:43
cdentactually I think that's a pretty good place for us to have a sprint10:43
cdentbecause we've got the directory structure in place but haven't gotten any further than that and we need to10:43
cdentso it might be a case where there people who have the plan need to hang out with some people who can help make it happen10:44
cdentI kinda feel like I'm in the latter half of that but I've lost track of the plan10:44
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_nadya_cdent: ok. maybe there will be some volunteers  who are happy to write tests :)10:45
_nadya_cdent: do you know, why nobody cares about UI?10:46
cdentthat's a very good question10:47
cdentNo, I don't know why. I think the essential problem on topics like that is that there simply aren't enough of us10:47
ildikov_nadya_: UI as extending Horizon or smth else?10:47
_nadya_ildikov: whatever :)10:47
cdentFor example: I personally care about UI issues just because that's the kind of person I am, but I haven't got time to add more concerns to my too large list of concerns.10:47
ildikovcdent: _nadya_: I agree that testing would be a good candidate for a mini sprint if we can find volnteers to jump in10:48
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ildikovI think Ceilometer is more the data collector today and everyone uses the data for different purposes, so the dashboard what is already in Horizon can be extended, but it's kind of depends on the consumer of our data that what needs to be visualized and how10:49
_nadya_maybe today on irc meeting we will find more people... cdent, maybe it would be better to close vote after irc? I think people may wake up during it10:50
ildikovalthough if we sorted out the higher priority items regarding performance and stability, we can think about this too10:50
cdent_nadya_: closing voting before the irc meeting was much on purpose10:50
_nadya_cdent: ok10:51
cdentBasically: we need to filter out the people who can't be bothered10:51
cdentyes, sure, they should be able to provide input, but that can't be allowed to control the schedule10:51
cdentthat's harsh or whatever, but we do need to get stuff done10:52
cdentand like I said to gordc when he sent me and prad off to do this: "you won't like it"10:52
ildikovit's only one day, we need priorities10:53
cdentWe could do this as early as next week if people are willing. In fact if we want jasonamyers there (which seems a very good idea), it needs to be next week.10:58
cdentHowever jd__ and gordc_af1 have some constraints next week10:59
jasonamyersI'm good till the 13th10:59
cdentCan people make sure there are up to date on:
jasonamyersWill do once I'm alive11:01
cdentSomeday someone will explain to me why people like their IRC to be on when they are not alive. I've never been keen on that, or bouncers or any of that hoopa joop.11:02
* cdent is a grape in the path of the steamroller of progress11:02
jasonamyersI want to be available if needed, but I like sleep?11:05
jasonamyersEspecially since most of you are hours ahead of me11:06
cdentthat's why they made email ;)11:06
cdentIt's not you specifically, it's the whole IRC world11:07
jasonamyersBut there aren't many ceilo emails11:07
jasonamyersI don't actually have a good answer I use irccloud because I like the client11:07
ildikovcdent: with IRC Cloud you can stay logged in11:10
cdentYeah, I know that, that's what I'm saying: I think that's crazy11:11
ildikovcdent: also it's easier to see whether someone pinged you, while you were away and answer questions later11:11
cdentlogged in should mean "acdtually present"11:11
cdentand this entire culture of being able to use pings when someone is not there is just bad11:11
ildikovrather than just reading logs11:11
cdentIt turns IRC into something it is not11:11
jasonamyersI'm never actually present unless have a cookie and are offering it to me11:12
cdentand removes the clear boundary bewteen sync and async styles of conversation11:12
cdentyou like thin mints jasonamyers ?11:12
ildikovyou cannot send mails to the list each and every time when someone is not available11:12
jasonamyersI like All cookies11:12
cdenta) why not b) why should we be trying to address individuals in the first place, that is a sign of very poor information available and distribution. If we use the list then conversations are inclusive, archived, and perhaps most importantly: written, which means someone has taken some time to actually think11:13
jasonamyersildikov: +111:13
cdentinstead of just chasing someone down11:13
cdentthe _only_ time we should be talkign on IRC is like now: when we are having a proper conversation that is mostly gossip11:14
cdentbut as I said above: I recognize I'm working against the flow of time here11:14
cdentand am resigned to the fact that people don't actually want things to work well ;)11:14
jasonamyersI will make sure when I'm on vacation to actually log out11:15
jasonamyersJust for you11:15
cdentyou are most gracious sir11:15
jasonamyersIf I can figure out how ;p11:16
ildikovdealing with mails can also be hard if we have too many, so it needs balance11:16
ildikovI don't think we have too many converstaions here that should've been on the list instead11:16
cdentWould you agree or disagree ildikov that no matter the media, we don't have enough conversations?11:20
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ildikovcdent: I tend to agree we don't have enough11:26
cdentyeah, me too11:36
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jasonamyersso cdent don't want irccloud as a gift when we are at the midcycle at yule, christmas, hanunakah11:43
cdentsurvey says no11:44
jasonamyerssocks it is then11:44
cdentthis is fun, see my comments at the end of:
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jasonamyersI'm sure I'll start giving you some fun reviews for my blueprint I get time starting monday for it11:46
jasonamyersso I'll be down to just book and ceilo for a week11:46
* cdent coffees&lunches11:48
jasonamyersthe moving the import thing is interesting11:48
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cdentit's not moving the import jasonamyers, it's just getting it in there at all11:54
cdentcroniter is used by alarms11:54
cdentwhen alarming is removed, so is croniter11:54
cdentand then the tests fail11:54
jasonamyersGets out of bed to find coffee so brain will work11:58
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cdentwhoops sorry, didn't mean to do that12:11
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openstackgerritKamil Rykowski proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Versioned Object Compatibility Mode
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Ceilometer Collection Agents Split
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Ceilometer Collection Agents Split
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add Downstream impact section
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jd__cdent: thanks for the help on the alarming removal review13:21
cdentis wacky13:21
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Remove useless migration module
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Replaces methods deprecated in pymongo3.0
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: notifier: tests stop method
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: impl_log: make methods static
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Remove code related to metadata/metaquery
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Fix options registeration in tests
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: api: remove v1 handling
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move to
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: api: remove unused extra_hooks
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move 'alarm_connection' to 'connection'
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Disable msgfmt in pep8
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: messaging: remove unused cleanup function
jd__cdent: if you want to fix the Gnocchi gate it's at ;)13:22
gordcjd__: have we tried integrating Aodh into tests yet?13:22
jd__gordc: not into tempest nor devstack, we need a devstack plugin13:22
gordcmaybe it's best to hold off on removal just in case... /me is glass half empty person13:22
jd__gordc: oh the removal is not going to be merged soon I think, the gate is not passing at all – probably because of tempest too13:22
jd__I'd like to have the next "sprint" to produce a working devstack plugin for aodh13:23
gordcjd__: ah cool cool.13:23
jd__fortunately cdent did the hardest part already13:23
cdenttoo much magic13:24
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gordcildikov: you have the summit ideas etherpad handy?13:33
gordcildikov: thanks :)13:34
ildikovgordc: np :)13:34
ildikovgordc: I'm on a boring meeting and it was handy, sometimes the hundreds of open firefox tabs are useful...13:35
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Transformers for events pipeline
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gordcildikov:  i was doing online orientation walkthrough... i stopped because it was super boring and tedious13:41
* cdent has nothing cool to talk about at Msummit13:42
cdentI can't really talk about gabbi every time13:42
ildikovgordc: it's more a brainstorming etherpad, the second one is surely the weaker one13:42
ildikovgordc: if we're focusing on Gnicchi, we can mention the restructuring at the end of the preso13:43
ildikovcdent: why not? ;)13:43
_nadya_cdent: look at Gnocchi :)13:43
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jd__cdent: I found the problem with croniter13:46
jd__cdent: you're gonna laugh13:46
cdentuh oh13:46
cdentoh ffs13:47
jd__thanks for the hint though13:48
jd__now gonna hit the terrace and enjoy some drinks and calling it a first half of afternoon :D13:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Make devstack use Keystone API v3 for user/project creation
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pradgordc, hmm any idea why tempest is upset
gordcprad: it's tempest13:56
pradildikov, btw regarding what you and gord are discussing.. i'm working on something related i guess
pradildikov, might be cool to do something together13:57
gordcprad: is this for your declarative test?13:57
pradgordc, yea13:57
gordcprad: it's probably because tempest isn't pulling in your new definition file which is why nothing gets built13:58
gordcprad: we might need to check it in disabled first.13:59
ildikovprad: cool, this matches more the second item on my etherpad, right?14:00
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tshtilmaHï I am trying to start gnocchi-metricd getting a PickingError14:00
tshtilmastack@tshtilma-gnocchi-devstack:~$ gnocchi-metricd14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.719 11299 WARNING oslo_config.cfg [-] Option "username" from group "keystone_authtoken" is deprecated. Use option "user-name" from group "keystone_authtoken".14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 CRITICAL gnocchi [-] PicklingError: Can't pickle <type 'function'>: attribute lookup __builtin__.function failed14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi Traceback (most recent call last):14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi   File "/usr/local/bin/gnocchi-metricd", line 10, in <module>14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi     sys.exit(metricd())14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi   File "/opt/stack/gnocchi/gnocchi/", line 79, in metricd14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi, range(conf.metricd.workers))14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/multiprocessing/", line 251, in map14:00
tshtilma2015-07-02 13:59:59.734 11299 ERROR gnocchi     return self.map_async(func, iterable, chunksize).get()14:00
pradildikov, i see an overlap yea, i was thinking more on ops pov but we can make it generic14:02
ildikovprad: or just mix the two in a way to give more room for the ops aspect14:02
pradildikov, sure14:03
ildikovprad: I was struggeling a bit with whether it takes a whole session, is it a good enough topic or not, but with the ops aspect it looks much better14:03
pradildikov, yea we can pull something together pretty comfortably i think14:04
ildikovprad: cool, sounds good to me :)14:04
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pradildikov, awesome, I'll add you as a join presenter .. I'm open to suggestions on how ever we want to amend the abstract14:05
ildikovprad: great, thanks, I will try my best to get there this week14:05
ildikovprad: ildiko.vancsa@ericsson.com14:08
ildikovprad: ooops, not that it would be a secret or anything :)14:09
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* cdent sends all his spam to ildikov 14:10
* ildikov needs more practice regarding to Outlook filters then :)14:11
* cdent needs more practice drinking coffee14:11
cdentjd__: just for reference:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470873 in WSME "WSME's date parsing is different depending on whether dateutils is available or not" [Undecided,New]14:13
pradgordc, so when you say check it in disabled.. you mean the new yaml file?14:14
pradgordc, if so wont we have missing meters as we're disabling the ones we converted?14:14
pradgordc, unless i first check it in disabled and dont disable the existing meters .. and then we make the switch14:18
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gordcprad: yeah, i don't think we can disable the existing meters initially... not without failing tempest14:20
pradhmm ok14:22
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative meters support
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove alarming code
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: set default limit to meter/sample queries
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ildikovgordc: have you checked the Gnocchi preso option?14:48
gordcildikov: on the etherpad?14:50
ildikovgordc: yeap14:50
gordcno. i'm hoping to get around to it tomorrow/weekend.14:51
ildikovgordc: cool, tnx14:51
* gordc was too busy watching fireworks yesterday :)14:51
ildikovgordc: lol :)14:52
cdentgordc: I HOPE YOU HAD SOME POUTINE14:53
gordccdent: i wasn't that drunk.14:53
* cdent is in a pickle for tomorrow14:53
cdentWhen I lived in the US I used to hang my british flag out the window on july 4th14:53
cdentI guess that means here I need to fly my us flag out the window14:53
gordccdent: i'd imagine the former is worse.14:54
gordccdent: i guess either way, you're getting something thrown at you.14:54
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to event list
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix gnocchi-metricd start
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: collector: fix test raising error
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer: Improve doc strings after changing method for index creation
cdentthat meeting felt quite dense16:00
gordccdent: dense = a lot covered or dense = stupid questions.lol16:01
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cdentthe former in fact16:01
cdentI'm not _always_ a negative ninny16:01
gordccdent: i use dense as the latter... i am always negative nancy16:01
* cdent will remember that16:02
ityaptingordc, about UI: I agree Nadya, Metering Dashboard in Horizon is not usable now, but i want to tune it a little.16:03
gordcityaptin: i think that'd be good. help give everyone a easy to understand use case for ceilometer.16:03
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ityaptingordc, about our api extending - I will report a bug, but Alexey has already present the PoC of this idea -
* gordc has no idea how horizon plans their ui... not sure how to proper ui based on usecase.16:04
gordcbbl. going to grab lunch16:04
ityaptingordc: Bon Appetit)16:05
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openstackgerritAleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add complex query for statistic requests
openstackgerritAleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Query statistics function for sql
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Update pytimeparse to 1.1.5
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Ensure location header urls account for script_name
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative meters support
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karolynHi, is there a documented list of ceilometer message queues?18:19
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gordckarolyn: do you mean what a list of exchanges we listen to?18:36
gordcjd__: can we mark this complete or do we need to gate on it?
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karolyngordc: We have a mq, metering.sample, that has over 100,000 items stacked up. We would assume that it's ceilometer based on the name. really just wanting to confirm that.18:44
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gordckarolyn: yeah, that's ceilometer. that's the queue we use to publish from agents to collector (or whatever you have consuming agent data)18:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements
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karolyngordc: is there any ramifications of clearing that queue besides losing sample data?19:04
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karolynHi gordc, do you know if there is any ramifications of clearing that metering.sample queue besides losing sample data?20:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Improve doc strings after changing method for index creation
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gordckarolyn: not that i can think of. you could probably just start a collector and dump it all to a file.20:16
gordckarolyn: or yeah, clear the queue.20:16
karolynah, okay cool. Thank you!20:19
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jd__gordc: we should gate on it20:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Create a devstack plugin for ceilometer
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gordcjd__: cool cool. will see if we can target that for this cycle.20:54
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