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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Support composite threshold rule alarm https://review.openstack.org/208786 | 08:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Remove useless base class https://review.openstack.org/222494 | 08:35 |
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| jd__ | sileht: how Gnocchi ended up in the integrated job queue in the gate? | 08:41 |
| sileht | jd__, ?? | 08:42 |
| jd__ | sileht: if I read correctly status.openstack.org… | 08:42 |
| sileht | wtf | 08:42 |
| sileht | we really need to remove ceilometer from this queue | 08:43 |
| sileht | jd__, I have no clue | 08:43 |
| sileht | perhaps related to 'gate-ceilometer-dsvm-integration' | 08:44 |
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| sileht | jd__, I haven't found any relationship in os-infra/project-config that make gnocchi integrated | 08:50 |
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| jd__ | sileht: I'm gonna ask on infra then | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Auto measurements https://review.openstack.org/223971 | 08:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/223619 | 11:42 |
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| gordc | sileht: do you know why we have warning everytime we kill listeners? WARNING oslo_messaging.server [-] start/stop/wait must be called in the same thread | 11:43 |
| sileht | gordc, for the story, that come from an unfinished patch merged into oslo.messaging during my PTO that have break many app, people have workaround the issue by replacing the RuntimeError by a LOG.warn | 11:45 |
| sileht | gordc, with eventlet this message can be ignored for sure | 11:46 |
| gordc | sileht: ah i see. ok. i wanted to check to make sure we didn't need to fix ceilometer. | 11:46 |
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| gordc | i'll just mark this invalid for now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1496152 | 11:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1496152 in Ceilometer "warnings thrown when listeners killed" [Medium,Invalid] | 11:47 |
| sileht | gordc, I will check if ceilometer need to be fixed | 11:47 |
| sileht | gordc, for example for neutron that really need to be fixed | 11:47 |
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| cdent | gordc: I left a comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1496347 I'm not really sure it is a bug | 11:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1496347 in Ceilometer "Able to get detail for deleted alarm using show alarm history api" [Medium,Triaged] | 11:54 |
| sileht | gordc, it looks like the behavior of oslo.service | 11:55 |
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| sileht | gordc, it run start and stop of the service into a different threads | 11:55 |
| gordc | cdent: hmm... i guess the reason i marked it triaged is because if you delete an alarm i assume you'd want the corresponding history to be gone too... rather than disabling alarm where you just want it turned off | 11:58 |
| gordc | cdent: although i understand your point too... | 11:58 |
| gordc | sileht: i see... so i guess we need to make a change to oslo.service if we were to fix it. | 11:58 |
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| sileht | gordc, or be smarted on when we should print the warning in oslo.messaging | 11:59 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah. i guess if it doesn't really affect performance and we're using it fine, i'm ok to ignore this for now. | 12:00 |
| sileht | gordc, yes I confirm it's fine for us | 12:00 |
| gordc | sileht: cool. thanks! | 12:01 |
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| pece | is it possible to specify custom dispatcher= option in ceilometer.conf without using entry_points? | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: improve the influxdb-python version https://review.openstack.org/223444 | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: alembic: make migration template PEP8 compliant https://review.openstack.org/224061 | 12:37 |
| gordc | pece: i believe we load list of available dispatchers via entry_points so that is probably your only option. what was the workflow you were hoping for? | 12:37 |
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| pece | gordc: I wasn't sure... that's ok, I'll add setup.py file in my package. | 12:44 |
| gordc | pece: cool cool. if there's something you think we can streamline, let us know. | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: remove install commands https://review.openstack.org/224069 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: remove unused hacking exceptions https://review.openstack.org/224070 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: use factor feature to simplify layout https://review.openstack.org/224071 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: factor default py{27,34} target https://review.openstack.org/224072 | 12:55 |
| cdent | gordc: M* and N* plans: more of the same; less code fewer features | 12:55 |
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| gordc | cdent: makes sense to me... or 'some' features. | 12:56 |
| cdent | no new features allowed until we get the currents ones working! | 12:57 |
| gordc | i think management start to ask questions when you say it does less. | 12:57 |
| cdent | etc | 12:57 |
| cdent | dood, let's XP, screw management! | 12:57 |
| * cdent is xTreme™ | 12:57 | |
| gordc | they're watching! | 12:57 |
| gordc | "XP is dead" - microsoft | 12:58 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: apply limit constraint on storage base interface https://review.openstack.org/224074 | 13:01 |
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| jd__ | raaahhh why a Gnocchi job ended up on a flapping node | 13:35 |
| jd__ | 4hours to wait again | 13:35 |
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| gordc | jd__: gates gods... they are very real. don't anger them. | 13:36 |
| cdent | Probably my fault | 13:36 |
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| jd__ | I'll sacrifice… something | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Refactor keystone handling in discovery manager https://review.openstack.org/222495 | 13:59 |
| cdent | biab | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: pollster/api now publish to sample queue https://review.openstack.org/223206 | 14:08 |
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| gordc | sileht: hmm. is there a way to minimise time it takes to kill and create a listener? | 14:43 |
| gordc | i've noticed it takes a very long time to rebalance listeners when we have multiple notification agents. | 14:43 |
| sileht | gordc, The time come from two things: | 14:45 |
| sileht | * the times to finish all currently running workers threads | 14:46 |
| sileht | * and next oslo.messaging polling timeout | 14:46 |
| sileht | gordc, do you use heartbeat ? | 14:46 |
| gordc | sileht: oslo.messaging heartbeat? i think i'm just using default devstack config | 14:47 |
| gordc | so 1 sec? | 14:47 |
| sileht | so you use it, the default heartbeat timeout is 60s, so the polling interval will be 15s | 14:48 |
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| gordc | so i should make it shorter? | 14:49 |
| sileht | gordc, to ensure this is oslo.messaging that wait for the polling to end, put heartbeat timeout to 0 to disable it | 14:50 |
| sileht | gordc, that will set a polling timeout to 1s | 14:50 |
| gordc | sileht: the sideeffect is it puts more load on rabbitmq? | 14:50 |
| sileht | gordc, only when it's idle | 14:52 |
| sileht | gordc, it shouldn't be a big deal | 14:52 |
| gordc | sileht: i see. i'm cool with taht. | 14:52 |
| gordc | that* | 14:52 |
| gordc | i'll give it a try. thanks for information | 14:53 |
| sileht | gordc, if this is heartbeat that creates the long times, perhaps we can fix something in oslo.messaging to quickly stop listener | 14:53 |
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| gordc | sileht: yeah that sounds like good idea. | 14:54 |
| gordc | sileht: let me try changing timeout to 0 and see if anything changes | 14:54 |
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| cdent | gordc: I most humbly apologise but I will be absent from tomorrow's meeting. I have cut off my pinkie toe in shame. | 15:00 |
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| gordc | cdent: it's cool. we're just voting on whether to evict you from island. | 15:00 |
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| gordc | sileht: there are a few other issues. but setting heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 0 did improve the kill/create listener performance | 15:10 |
| gordc | other issues in ceilometer* | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Use influxdb 0.9.4 https://review.openstack.org/224014 | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: fix potential race condition in Ceph and file drivers https://review.openstack.org/224167 | 15:51 |
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| gordc | sileht: i think i asked you this before but there's no way to dynamically reconfigure endpoints of listener correct? you must create a new listener if you change endpoints? | 16:01 |
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| cdent | gordc do you actually have a fully functioning mental model of how all the notification agent coordination stuff works, or do you just kind of do it on faith? | 16:11 |
| gordc | cdent: you want the truth or something that will help you sleep at night? | 16:11 |
| cdent | I'll take the truth, I love my wife. | 16:12 |
| gordc | well played. | 16:15 |
| gordc | cdent: i have a mental model which i believe is correct in theory. in practise, it's debatable. | 16:15 |
| gordc | cdent: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QgjDOLRnKDboqP8P1LvV0kR5aQEv_VJsDtMlh6u7tIY/edit?usp=sharing slide 5 is technically how it works. | 16:16 |
| cdent | slide 5 is "proposal" (which is a fantastic joke, oh well) | 16:18 |
| cdent | yeah, I've seen slide 6 before | 16:18 |
| cdent | and that's aligned with what I know in my head too, its just that I never seem to have it fully integrated when looking at the code | 16:19 |
| gordc | err yeah 6... | 16:20 |
| gordc | the basic idea is that you have x pipelines. | 16:21 |
| gordc | for each pipeline, we have y copies of it to distribute load (y = conf.pipeline_processing_queues) | 16:21 |
| gordc | from the x*y queues, the agents will grab a set of queues and process those. | 16:22 |
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| gordc | what i've realised so far while playing around is the default value of pipeline_processing_queues = 10 might be too high... it takes way to long to kill/recreate x*y queues | 16:23 |
| gordc | or 10x queues | 16:23 |
| cdent | how long is too long? | 16:24 |
| gordc | > 60seconds? | 16:24 |
| gordc | i'm not exactly sure just yet. i think the issue is that it doesn't seem to kill listeners if there's constant load... | 16:25 |
| gordc | which is a problem because if i start a new notification agent, it will grab it's subset of queues which another agent is listening to as well (but haven't given up listening to them because the listeners aren't getting killed) | 16:26 |
| cdent | what's the tooz heartbeat frequency? | 16:26 |
| gordc | default it checks for new agents every 10sec | 16:27 |
| gordc | or it calls run_watchers every 10 sec | 16:27 |
| cdent | and any given queue can only have one listener? | 16:31 |
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| gordc | cdent: it should. or else the caches for the transformers are not accurate | 16:32 |
| cdent | I know it should, but what I meant was what happens to have attempt to listen when something else already is? | 16:33 |
| gordc | if there are multiple listeners and no transformers, there's no issue. but if there are transformers theres a good chance the calculated values will be wrong (if there's some cache involved) | 16:34 |
| gordc | and we have no idea if a queue has multiple listeners because i chose stupid agent route where agents only know about their own tasks. | 16:35 |
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| gordc | cdent: bbl. going to grab some lunch. | 16:36 |
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| srsakhamuri | Hello ceilo experts, on stable/juno ceilometer event-list gives 401 unauth error when using with non-admin user, Is this a known bug or feature? I don't see this happening on master branch | 18:42 |
| srsakhamuri | gordc: any insight on the above? | 18:45 |
| gordc | srsakhamuri: that's correct. we only added rbac support for events in Liberty | 18:47 |
| gordc | srsakhamuri: prior to that, (juno/kilo) we required admin access | 18:47 |
| gordc | also, previously, admin access gave you access to all events... now admin access only gives you access to unscoped events or events scope to same project | 18:48 |
| srsakhamuri | Ok got it thanks gordc for the info | 18:49 |
| gordc | np | 18:49 |
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| rohit_ | gordc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1495372 is to account for multiple meter definitions in more than one pipeline, do you think this should be fixed or left to admin to create one for the api service to use | 19:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495372 in Ceilometer "Post Sample using correct pipeline when polling and noti. agent use different pipelines" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3) | 19:02 |
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| gordc | rohit_: is this is an existing use case you have? | 19:07 |
| rohit_ | gordc: yes, we use different pipelines for polling and noti agent | 19:08 |
| rohit_ | so we dont poll what we get notifications from | 19:08 |
| gordc | tbh, it seems somewhat complicated to implement, did you want to decide per post whether to use notification pipeline or polling agent pipeline? | 19:08 |
| rohit_ | i was thinking if we could use both at the same time | 19:09 |
| rohit_ | and initialize the api service with a pipeline that as multiple meter definitions, it would play well, if we could just specify multiplepipeline sources | 19:10 |
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| gordc | rohit_: hmm.. yeah i don't think that's a stable candidate patch. i'd think it'd change existing behaviour quite a bit. | 19:11 |
| gordc | it might be something you'd want to patch internally... you can leave the bug open to see if people are interested in it. but given it's scope and the potential validation issues i'd be wary of adding it to stable. | 19:12 |
| rohit_ | gordc: hmm, This will only be a stable issue, in Liberty its all handled by the noti agent | 19:13 |
| rohit_ | gordc: Thanks | 19:14 |
| gordc | rohit_: np. | 19:15 |
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| gordc | rohit_: also, while i have you. i made a comment to here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208068/ | 19:17 |
| gordc | rohit_: do you want me to rebase on yours or are you ok rebasing on top of my patch | 19:18 |
| gordc | the latter is easier from code review pov, but it requires you to do another patch.. | 19:18 |
| rohit_ | gordc: go ahead, i can rebase on yours | 19:18 |
| rohit_ | yeah | 19:18 |
| gordc | rohit_: thanks dude. apologies again | 19:18 |
| rohit_ | gordc: no worries | 19:19 |
| rohit_ | btw, that patch is long overdue for approval, will address the nits and submit for review | 19:20 |
| gordc | rohit_: ack, i'll target it for rc1 | 19:20 |
| rohit_ | gordc: sounds good | 19:21 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Notification Filter. https://review.openstack.org/128411 | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add delta transfomer support https://review.openstack.org/221907 | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adds support for dynamic event pipeline https://review.openstack.org/208068 | 19:48 |
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| gordc | pradk: did you noticed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1484579 | 20:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484579 in Ceilometer "Incomplete documentation/RPM Packaging Error" [Undecided,New] | 20:26 |
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| pradk | gordc, looking | 20:26 |
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| pradk | gordc, sorry got distracted by other ping | 20:38 |
| pradk | gordc, so we dont specifically require that dep in kilo, but i think its addressed in liberty | 20:38 |
| gordc | pradk: ok. so it's not a bug? | 20:39 |
| gordc | i'm not really familiar with packaging stuff (obviously) | 20:39 |
| pradk | gordc, its seems an issue in stable/kilo .. we use oslo.policy in kilo correct? | 20:42 |
| pradk | gordc, in liberty its not an issue(or wont be) | 20:42 |
| pradk | gordc, i can fix it in the next rdo pkg release, feel free to assign it to me | 20:44 |
| gordc | pradk: is there a packaging launchpad? | 20:44 |
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| pradk | gordc, dont think so, we track rdo stuff in bugzilla | 20:45 |
| gordc | oh. should we just create something in bugzilla and close this then? | 20:45 |
| pradk | gordc, sure, I can do that | 20:45 |
| gordc | and yes, i believe we use oslo.policy in kilo since fabio added rbac then | 20:46 |
| gordc | pradk: cool cool | 20:46 |
| gordc | i assigned to you, you can mark invalid when you create bugzilla item | 20:46 |
| pradk | cool | 20:47 |
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