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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix for resource polling warnings https://review.openstack.org/229657 | 02:38 |
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| maestro | hi is there any free tool to perform billing for testing | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Convert keystoneauth exceptions by ours https://review.openstack.org/230378 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Creates better exceptions for http code 409 https://review.openstack.org/230396 | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize field definition of declarative code https://review.openstack.org/224488 | 07:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize yaml loading of declarative stuffs https://review.openstack.org/224489 | 07:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: indexer: change to lower case when appropriate https://review.openstack.org/230909 | 08:31 |
| jd__ | sileht: sooo do you wanna push 0.1.0 for gnocchiclient or should I/ | 08:35 |
| jd__ | ? | 08:35 |
| sileht | jd__, :) | 08:36 |
| * sileht press the button now | 08:36 | |
| jd__ | let me know if you need help | 08:36 |
| jd__ | sileht: do you/I have review to do before? | 08:36 |
| sileht | jd__, it's ok | 08:37 |
| jd__ | ok | 08:38 |
| sileht | arf: | 08:39 |
| sileht | ! [remote rejected] 1.0.0 -> 1.0.0 (prohibited by Gerrit) | 08:39 |
| sileht | jd__, you are the only one that have the gnocchi-release power : https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/354,members | 08:40 |
| jd__ | HAHAHA you fool! | 08:40 |
| jd__ | sileht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxCLTyGr4mA#t=20s | 08:41 |
| sileht | ahah | 08:42 |
| sileht | jd__, I have done my part, zuul is working hard to release it now | 08:49 |
| * jd__ whips Zuul | 08:49 | |
| jd__ | sileht: you can abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227743/ | 08:51 |
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| jd__ | ah you pushed 1.0.0 finally, you crazy | 08:52 |
| jd__ | we'll go with 2.0.0 soon I guess :) | 08:52 |
| sileht | jd__, exactly | 08:52 |
| jd__ | cool | 08:52 |
| jd__ | let's do some more Carbonara optimizations today | 08:53 |
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| cdent | those are some very brightly colored seats at your gnocchi talk jd__ | 09:05 |
| cdent | go well? | 09:05 |
| jd__ | cdent: yeah if you look to the end of the video you'll see no rotten tomatoes | 09:06 |
| jd__ | went well and I got a few interesting questions | 09:06 |
| cdent | the questions are always the best part (for the speaker) | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix InfluxDB tests https://review.openstack.org/230928 | 10:01 |
| cdent | ityaptin: test fixes++! | 10:04 |
| cdent | any insight on what's going on during the normal runs? | 10:04 |
| cdent | Is that too from deletions? | 10:05 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: At Friday I deployed a Gnocchi devstack + influxdb and it still works | 10:31 |
| ityaptin | cdent: I will write some data via tools/send_test_data.py | 10:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix InfluxDB tests https://review.openstack.org/230928 | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize resampling https://review.openstack.org/231002 | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize resampling https://review.openstack.org/231002 | 14:05 |
| jd__ | ^^^ 45x speed improvement | 14:06 |
| jd__ | pretty cool :D | 14:06 |
| cdent | that's nice | 14:07 |
| gordc | good to hear. | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove last vestiges of devstack from grenade plugin https://review.openstack.org/231019 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix InfluxDB tests https://review.openstack.org/230928 | 14:30 |
| cdent | gordc, sileht that ^ is a fix for the currently failing grenade tests | 14:30 |
| gordc | cdent: what's new devstack? | 14:32 |
| cdent | say what? | 14:32 |
| gordc | your branch name. | 14:32 |
| gordc | fix-for-new-devstack? | 14:32 |
| cdent | new in the general sense of "this newer devstack does not have ceilometer in it" | 14:33 |
| gordc | i see. | 14:33 |
| cdent | or perhaps "i have no idea what to put here, here are some words" | 14:33 |
| gordc | that makes more sense. | 14:34 |
| * cdent is exhausted | 14:34 | |
| cdent | I'm not sure why | 14:34 |
| gordc | openstack | 14:35 |
| cdent | it does tend to do that | 14:35 |
| cdent | needs a warning label | 14:35 |
| jasonamyers | +1 | 14:35 |
| gordc | :) | 14:36 |
| gordc | we should remove the logging in this channel. | 14:36 |
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| idegtiarov | hi gordc! I've just seen your comment according event-transformer :) Unfortunately I won't be on summit but Ilya will | 14:37 |
| jasonamyers | :) | 14:37 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: which comment? the summit topic? | 14:38 |
| idegtiarov | gordc, so the question is what we need to do to add event transformer as a topic | 14:38 |
| idegtiarov | gordc, yep this comment )) | 14:38 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: right now it seems we have as much topics as design slots so it seems event transformation will have it's own slot | 14:39 |
| gordc | right now i'm debating whether to have general theme slots for design summit | 14:40 |
| idegtiarov | gordc, thank got it | 14:40 |
| cdent | meaning what? | 14:40 |
| gordc | ie. one slot for events, alarming, gnocchi, ui, etc... | 14:41 |
| cdent | I thought you might be meaning x-project themes: testing, performance, repo-splitting, etc | 14:41 |
| cdent | "themes" rather vague | 14:41 |
| gordc | something like that ^ | 14:42 |
| gordc | but using the proposed topics as a starting point | 14:42 |
| cdent | let's light candles and have a mindfulness and gratitude session ;) | 14:43 |
| idegtiarov | cdent, lol | 14:43 |
| gordc | the horizon ui topic is a must have. based on survey so far, it's one of main ways people are using ceilometer data...and they all say it's unusable. | 14:44 |
| cdent | gnocchi+grafana | 14:44 |
| cdent | which really begs the question: are we _actually_ going to deprecate ceilo-storage or will it linger forever? | 14:44 |
| gordc | cdent: not sure. i was going to add v3 api as topic but i don't know if we will get anywhere without a formal idea. | 14:45 |
| * cdent doesn't really know what v3 api means | 14:46 | |
| gordc | the problem with just gnocchi is that because of the archival policies and aggregations. it sort of destroys auditing. | 14:46 |
| cdent | it implies some form of continuity. I'm not sure there is any (which is a big issue) | 14:46 |
| cdent | Wasn't it adding auditing support that basically "broke" ceilometer? | 14:46 |
| cdent | ;) | 14:46 |
| * cdent is feeling obstreperous | 14:47 | |
| * gordc will not google what that word means. | 14:47 | |
| cdent | it's safe | 14:47 |
| gordc | too lazy. | 14:47 |
| * gordc has been flagged many many times already | 14:48 | |
| gordc | stupid source links. never click source links. | 14:48 |
| cdent | "noisy and difficult to control" | 14:49 |
| cdent | google's example sentence is perfect: "the boy is cocky and obstreperous" | 14:50 |
| gordc | ...that is you always. | 14:51 |
| cdent | \o/ | 14:52 |
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| jd__ | gordc: I think we can make Ceilometer keep 'generating' auditing via the events and polling, we just don't want to provide any API for that | 14:58 |
| jd__ | if people wants to store samples in Hadoop, good for them | 14:58 |
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| gordc | jd__: no api for events? | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize resampling https://review.openstack.org/231002 | 15:00 |
| gordc | jd__: i'm thinking maybe we leave the existing storage as is and let people dispatch to both gnocchi and existing storage drive for auditing if they want. | 15:01 |
| jd__ | gordc: sounds good to me, that means we need to deprecated the v2 samples API | 15:02 |
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| gordc | sure. i think it'd be good to have a doc to do gnocchi+aodh+ceilometer first. i don't think anyone understands it all yet. | 15:04 |
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| cdent | we need to do a lot of work on testing | 15:07 |
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| jd__ | gordc: I do! | 15:15 |
| gordc | jd__: brain dump! | 15:16 |
| jd__ | gordc: I'm not really into Aodh yet – I hope I'll be able to hack it sometime later, but as far as Gnocchi is concerned, if you have questions or points unclear in the doc I'd be glad to enhance them | 15:17 |
| jd__ | you know, you ask questions and I write the doc :p | 15:17 |
| * gordc is reading carbonara right now. | 15:18 | |
| jd__ | bon appétit | 15:20 |
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| vkmc | gnocchi, carbonara... I like this channel | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove deprecated existence meters https://review.openstack.org/228563 | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize resampling https://review.openstack.org/231002 | 16:05 |
| pradk | gordc, so for the existence meters, instead of generating samples, we want to generate an event is that it? | 16:06 |
| pradk | gordc, and i assume we dont need that for all meters? | 16:08 |
| cdent | what about having a transformer sample->event | 16:08 |
| cdent | s/sample/measure in the pipline/ | 16:09 |
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| gordc | pradk: i think the main valid use case we lose from dropping volume=1 meters is now we can't do resource healthchecks and can't get the lifespan of a resource. | 16:09 |
| gordc | i'm not sure if it applys to all volume=1 meters. something to discuss. | 16:10 |
| pradk | gordc, ok so we want to do that for all vol=1 meters? | 16:11 |
| pradk | yea | 16:11 |
| pradk | gordc, k i think this is a good topic for summit to hash out which ones people care about | 16:11 |
| pradk | ? | 16:11 |
| gordc | gnocchi currently appears to capture lifespan of resource... that said i'm not completely sold sending volume=1 data to gnocchi. | 16:11 |
| cdent | if you control it in the pipeline then people can make the choice themselves | 16:11 |
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| gordc | pradk: yeah, i added it as a topic | 16:11 |
| gordc | cdent: control whether it's a sample or event or both? | 16:12 |
| cdent | yeah. the notification agent is channeling everything now, so it can use the pipeline to decide what to do | 16:12 |
| cdent | an incoming measure can be ... transformed ... to become an event | 16:13 |
| pradk | gordc, k cool, i'll leave at WIP for now | 16:13 |
| cdent | since we already have that choke point now, we may as well use it | 16:13 |
| gordc | cdent: right. but it's not actually a measure. that was the whole point of disabling them. | 16:13 |
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| cdent | but they aren't actually disabled are they, they still get produced as notifications on the bus, yeah? | 16:14 |
| cdent | we just choose to ignore them | 16:14 |
| * cdent is not quite certain he has all the pieces memorized properly | 16:14 | |
| gordc | cdent: the polled version of volume=1 meters? correct, they are still built. | 16:15 |
| gordc | the notification version of volume=1 meters are disbaled by default. | 16:15 |
| cdent | they are disabled in ceilometer | 16:15 |
| cdent | but they are not disabled in nova, neutron, cinder, etc. Correct? | 16:15 |
| pradk | correct notification is still generated by projects | 16:16 |
| gordc | volume=1 meters aren't actually a nova/neutron/etc concept. | 16:16 |
| cdent | we need to think more realistically about how this is all a single system | 16:16 |
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| cdent | they are notifications that get sent and become those meters | 16:16 |
| cdent | we make those meters from those notifications | 16:16 |
| cdent | we can make _anything_ from those notifications | 16:17 |
| gordc | we get notifications from them. we just happen to be normalising them into volume=1 meters (if we don't have disable on) | 16:17 |
| cdent | that's the only point I'm trying to make | 16:17 |
| gordc | cdent: right. so what i'm wondering is if we should build it as an event instead (to show state of resource). | 16:19 |
| gordc | or keep building it as a sample (for reasons i do not have). | 16:19 |
| * cdent doesn't believe there is an actual difference between events and samples and persisting that in the data model is a problem | 16:20 | |
| cdent | but we have the legacy that we do | 16:20 |
| cdent | so given that: yes, making them events is probably useful to people | 16:20 |
| cdent | especially if we are going to allow event-based alarming | 16:20 |
| gordc | samples are simple, events are verbose. | 16:20 |
| cdent | it's _all_ verbose | 16:20 |
| cdent | that's the problem | 16:20 |
| gordc | agreed. but samples really shouldn't be. | 16:21 |
| gordc | it just happend to be the first model we had so it was made to be everything. | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove last vestiges of devstack from grenade plugin https://review.openstack.org/231019 | 16:25 |
| cdent | gordc: do we yet/already have functionality to turn a polled sample into an event? | 16:26 |
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| gordc | cdent: nope. | 16:37 |
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| gordc | cdent: do you remember if you had to change anything in heat jobs when you pulled lib/ceilometer out of devstack? | 16:38 |
| gordc | oh nevermind i see the job. | 16:38 |
| gordc | s/job/patch/ | 16:39 |
| cdent | all I did was add an enable_plugin line to DEVSTACK_LOCAL_something | 16:39 |
| gordc | cdent: kk. so if a project wants to add ceilometer to their gate they have to do that? they can't just modify devstack/settings to include "enable_plugin ceilometer git://git.openstack..." | 16:42 |
| cdent | I guess they could change settings, but that would mean that it is on by default, and the gate always like things to be very explicit, not by default | 16:43 |
| cdent | (the settings file is suppose to be defaults for human runs) | 16:43 |
| gordc | cdent: i see. | 16:45 |
| gordc | i'll tell magnum to change their gate. | 16:45 |
| gordc | it doesn't seem to work if they put enable_plugin ceilometer git://git.openstack... in their settings file. | 16:45 |
| gordc | bad variables from the look of it. | 16:46 |
| cdent | ah right, that's because that command is not available at that stage | 16:46 |
| cdent | (it's all incredibly way overcomplicated) | 16:46 |
| gordc | fantastic. :) | 16:47 |
| cdent | I suppose there's a chance it is just as complicated as it needs to be, but I doubt it because openstack™ | 16:48 |
| gordc | word | 16:49 |
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| vkmc | are there docs somewhere explaining how to create Ceilo publishers? | 17:04 |
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| gordc | vkmc: to publish to where? | 17:08 |
| gordc | vkmc: i don't think there's docs. basically just copy format of existing one, add an entry_point and that's pretty much it. | 17:09 |
| vkmc | gordc, so... I want to do a publisher for Zaqar | 17:09 |
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| vkmc | I'm working on a PoC for Horizon and we need some of the data collected by Ceilo to be forwarded to a queue in Zaqar | 17:10 |
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| vkmc | basically | 17:10 |
| vkmc | :) | 17:10 |
| ildikov | pradk: hi | 17:10 |
| ildikov | pradk: I would like to double check with you the install guide for Aodh, please ping me, when you're around | 17:11 |
| gordc | vkmc: you just need to extend https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/publisher/__init__.py#L36 | 17:11 |
| pradk | hi ildikov, in mtg, will ping you back | 17:11 |
| vkmc | gordc, thanks for the pointer, will check that out | 17:12 |
| ildikov | pradk: cool, tnx | 17:12 |
| cdent | gordc: that grenade-related stuff I had you +2 earlier is not quite there yet, I'm still working on it, but going out for a while, will tidy it up later this evening and then it should be good to go | 17:12 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool | 17:12 |
| * cdent waves | 17:13 | |
| gordc | i'm going to grab lunch. | 17:13 |
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| Putta | jd__ Can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225293/ ? | 17:54 |
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| Putta | thanks jd__ for the review | 18:15 |
| jd__ | np | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/230561 | 23:13 |
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