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| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Bracket events to sample publisher https://review.openstack.org/223926 | 01:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Simplify the validation of required fields of pipeline source https://review.openstack.org/232839 | 02:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Clean some log messages when polling neutron resources https://review.openstack.org/232862 | 04:50 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/232867 | 04:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Removing ceph locking system https://review.openstack.org/232061 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: docs: add some notes about tooz https://review.openstack.org/232542 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: docs: add some ceph driver notes https://review.openstack.org/232543 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: tests: Allow more postgres connection https://review.openstack.org/232920 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/232927 | 06:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize field definition of declarative code https://review.openstack.org/224488 | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize yaml loading of declarative stuffs https://review.openstack.org/224489 | 07:16 |
| sileht | jd__, about the py34 pgsl failure in gate I proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232920/1 | 07:19 |
| sileht | jd__, the removal of ceph lock always trigger this issue. | 07:20 |
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| jd__ | sileht: ack | 07:51 |
| jd__ | sileht: we may need to investigate at some point that looks suspicious | 07:51 |
| sileht | jd__, I wonder why just in py34 | 07:52 |
| sileht | jd__, the removal of ceph lock, use tooz, that use pgsql too | 07:53 |
| sileht | jd__, that's why connections increase | 07:53 |
| jd__ | I get that, but the connections are supposedly closed at some point :) | 07:53 |
| sileht | jd__, but perhaps something does release them correctly in py34 | 07:53 |
| sileht | *doesn't* | 07:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: devstack: create a default archive policy rule https://review.openstack.org/232944 | 08:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: set the default archive policy to None https://review.openstack.org/229461 | 08:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: devstack: create a default archive policy rule https://review.openstack.org/232944 | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: docs: add some ceph driver notes https://review.openstack.org/232543 | 09:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Wen Zhi Yu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Unify the timestamp of polled data https://review.openstack.org/232976 | 09:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: cli: make resource type non positional https://review.openstack.org/232977 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Always make resource_id positional https://review.openstack.org/232978 | 09:35 |
| jd__ | more than 1 hour to feed data into Ceilometer where it'd take ~5s in Gnocchi tsss | 09:39 |
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| sileht | jd__, you mean gnocchi vs mongo ? or that the queueing+dispatcher thing is slow ? | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Fix some spelling typo in manual and help output https://review.openstack.org/226792 | 09:47 |
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| jd__ | sileht: gnocchi vs sql right now | 10:35 |
| jd__ | sileht: using the tools/make_test_data | 10:35 |
| jd__ | I'll test mongodb after, I though mongodb was set up but it was sql actually :) | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: tests: Allow more postgres connection https://review.openstack.org/232920 | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Removing ceph locking system https://review.openstack.org/232061 | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Deprecate event trait plugin 'split' https://review.openstack.org/224493 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: cli: make resource type non positional https://review.openstack.org/232977 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: docs: add some ceph driver notes https://review.openstack.org/232543 | 11:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Always make resource_id positional https://review.openstack.org/232978 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: benchmark: rename argument to `count' https://review.openstack.org/232618 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: benchmark: add get metric https://review.openstack.org/229938 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: metric: change all resource_id options to -r https://review.openstack.org/229990 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: benchmark: add support for measures add https://review.openstack.org/231501 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: benchmark: use processes rather than threads https://review.openstack.org/231502 | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Fix some spelling typo in manual and help output https://review.openstack.org/226792 | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize field definition of declarative code https://review.openstack.org/224488 | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Factorize yaml loading of declarative stuffs https://review.openstack.org/224489 | 11:10 |
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| cdent | ityaptin: hey, you around? did you make that influxdb change you wanted me to try? | 11:38 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: Hi! | 11:39 |
| cdent | gordc: the aipmi thing is a generic problem and I'm undecided on how/where to fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1504304 | 11:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504304 in Ceilometer "[devstack] disable_service doesn't disable services enabled by plugin" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 11:39 |
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| ityaptin | I made a some multithreading write tests yesterday and found out that 500: timeout error doesn't relative to retention policies checks. So, I wrote a Data batcher which collect all point from influxDb storage and send it as batch. Now, I check this POC working in Gnocchi api | 11:42 |
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| ityaptin | In my tests it allow to avoid all timeouts. | 11:42 |
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| gordc | cdent: generic problem for the polling services or all services? | 11:51 |
| cdent | any devstack plugin which does an enable_service in settings can then not have that service disabled | 11:51 |
| gordc | cdent: the alarm services do seem to get disabled... or it could just be the aodh plugin disabling them. | 11:51 |
| cdent | sdague agrees it is a bug | 11:51 |
| cdent | it's aodh disabling, which is does from its own settings file | 11:51 |
| gordc | ah i see. | 11:51 |
| cdent | if you run ceilo without aodh, disabling no workie | 11:51 |
| cdent | ityaptin: I'm not sure I understand what you're saying but will look forward to the results | 11:52 |
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| gordc | cdent: i take it this bug is related to disable_service bug then? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1503338 | 11:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503338 in Ceilometer "Deploying Ceilometer with DevStack fails with a permissions error" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to shravya Gaddam (shravya-g90) | 11:58 |
| gordc | maybe not. | 11:58 |
| cdent | gordc: no, that happens because the file has its permissions changed | 12:00 |
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| cdent | it only happens on a second devstack run when /etc/ceilometer is not empty | 12:00 |
| jd__ | too many sleep calls in devstack to be honest | 12:00 |
| cdent | jd__: what would you tell us if you weren't being honest? | 12:01 |
| jd__ | I just hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1503338 10 seconds ago | 12:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503338 in Ceilometer "Deploying Ceilometer with DevStack fails with a permissions error" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to shravya Gaddam (shravya-g90) | 12:01 |
| jd__ | cdent: this bash project is a real piece of engineering | 12:01 |
| cdent | 👍 | 12:02 |
| cdent | i'll look at the rootwrap stuff next | 12:04 |
| cdent | there are _many_ minor devstack annoyances that need clearing | 12:05 |
| jd__ | DEBUG (connectionpool) "GET /v2/meters/instance/statistics HTTP/1.1" 500 138 | 12:05 |
| jd__ | DEBUG (client) RESP: [500] {'Content-Length': '138', 'Server': 'Apache/2.4.6 (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) OpenSSL/1.0.1e-fips mod_wsgi/3.4 Python/2.7.5', 'Connection': 'close', 'Date': 'Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:05:32 GMT', 'Content-Type': 'application/json', 'x-openstack-request-id': 'req-0cd4abe9-883c-4138-b82e-61a33dbb0593'} | 12:05 |
| jd__ | DEBUG (client) RESP BODY: {"error_message": {"debuginfo": null, "faultcode": "Server", "faultstring": "unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'unicode' and 'unicode'"}} | 12:05 |
| jd__ | lol? I just stacked with MongoDB | 12:06 |
| cdent | joke's on us for not dogfooding anywhere near enough | 12:07 |
| gordc | it asked for unicode... stop giving it unicode. | 12:07 |
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| gordc | cdent: when you switched fully to devstack plugin in gate, does that apply to stable/liberty as well? | 12:17 |
| cdent | I believe so | 12:17 |
| cdent | as in: I didn't make any special cases for it | 12:17 |
| gordc | cdent: ok. so we need to backport any fixes related to plugin. | 12:18 |
| * cdent nods | 12:18 | |
| cdent | jd__: the 1503338 bug was caused by your change in e6087c9570250145e70d6ca335f9 | 12:21 |
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| gordc | seems weird to backport that. | 12:21 |
| cdent | backport which gordc? | 12:22 |
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| gordc | backport a/any devstack plugin fix | 12:23 |
| gordc | i don't really have a fix though. seems like we'd have to duplicate all the jobs -- one with enable_plugin, the other without | 12:24 |
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| cdent | I'm confused on what you are trying to avoid/fix/protect? | 12:24 |
| gordc | cdent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228955/ | 12:25 |
| gordc | the functional test is fixed by this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231543/ | 12:26 |
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| cdent | gordc is there something wrong with backporting the fix? | 12:29 |
| gordc | it's not the typical critical/high priority items. | 12:32 |
| cdent | in-tree plugins are going to change that mode | 12:33 |
| gordc | to me it's like backporting a translation update. | 12:33 |
| gordc | kk. i'm just testing to see if it affects juno/kilo too. | 12:33 |
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| jd__ | cdent: "caused", I'd say revealed | 13:06 |
| cdent | no, entirely caused | 13:06 |
| cdent | it also has an additional problem: if you have a ceilometer.conf in in etc/ceilometer then it will clobber inisets that are already done in devstack | 13:07 |
| cdent | it simply can't be a globa | 13:07 |
| cdent | glob | 13:07 |
| cdent | anyway, I've fixed it | 13:07 |
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| jd__ | I see | 13:09 |
| jd__ | cdent: happy birthday then! | 13:09 |
| jd__ | :) | 13:10 |
| cdent | thanks | 13:10 |
| gordc | how old? | 13:10 |
| cdent | guess | 13:11 |
| jd__ | old enough to become a bash consultant | 13:11 |
| gordc | 101 | 13:11 |
| jd__ | in binary? | 13:11 |
| gordc | what's binary? | 13:11 |
| cdent | jd__: sadly that's probalby true. | 13:11 |
| * cdent has been using bash for far too long | 13:11 | |
| gordc | cdent: i already tagged you as resident bash expert | 13:12 |
| jd__ | cdent: time for zsh maybe then? ;) | 13:12 |
| cdent | I've been putting off zsh for a long time now | 13:13 |
| cdent | I'll 101 in binary | 13:16 |
| cdent | (take) | 13:16 |
| gordc | leap year bday? | 13:18 |
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| jd__ | cdent: 12 years of zsh and counting! | 13:19 |
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| * cdent sighs | 13:19 | |
| * cdent remembers when bash was novel | 13:19 | |
| * cdent gets his cane, front porch, comfy chair and rifle | 13:20 | |
| gordc | ha | 13:20 |
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| cdent | gordc: I need you to bring me some iced tea, lemonade and bourbon | 13:26 |
| cdent | hold the lemonade and iced tea | 13:26 |
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| gordc | you want Werther's Original too? | 13:31 |
| gordc | cdent: i assume you like your self some hard carmel. | 13:32 |
| cdent | yeah, and roasted possum | 13:32 |
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| gordc | cdent: i just listend to podcast about that. | 13:33 |
| gordc | it sounds disgusting. | 13:33 |
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| cdent | you know about the road kill recipe book? | 13:34 |
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| gordc | lol i live the frugal life | 13:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Be explicit when copying files to /etc/ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/233064 | 13:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/230573 | 14:28 |
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| cdent | you've tarred me with quite some feathers there gordc | 14:30 |
| gordc | cdent: you should proclaim your expertise before someone anoints you with something you don't want. | 14:32 |
| gordc | lesson learned. | 14:32 |
| cdent | I'm in the awkward place of being too uptight to let sleeping ick lie | 14:34 |
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| gordc | is "sleeping ick" some colloquialism? | 14:35 |
| gordc | because i googled... and now i've been flagged (again) at work. | 14:36 |
| cdent | I think I made it up: The crap other people don't seem to want to touch but it key to making it go. | 14:36 |
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| gordc | cdent: you own wsme too right? :) | 14:36 |
| cdent | Only by popular acclaim, I got volunteered... | 14:37 |
| cdent | meh | 14:37 |
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| pradk | gordc, hey, want to pick up the events conversation now? | 15:28 |
| gordc | pradk: sure | 15:30 |
| pradk | gordc, cool, so .. | 15:31 |
| pradk | event_definitions.yaml currently has exists events, could we leverage that and generate the equivalent events, instead of what we have in meter definitions? | 15:32 |
| pradk | I guess i'm not entirely clear what event_definitions is used for other than doing some conversions | 15:32 |
| gordc | pradk: you mean create notifications under same event_type? | 15:33 |
| pradk | we have a bunch of vol=1 meter in meter yaml, how are they any different from .exists events in event_definitions | 15:33 |
| pradk | gordc, hmm we already ave hexists notifications right? from other projects | 15:33 |
| pradk | vol=1 is something ceilo sets | 15:34 |
| gordc | pradk: most likely nothing but schema... the volume=1 meters are often derived from .exists events | 15:34 |
| gordc | but the exists events aren't from us. they aren't polled. | 15:35 |
| pradk | gordc, right, so why cant we just get rid of whats in meter.yaml and just reuse definitions from event yaml and then generate events of that | 15:35 |
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| pradk | i guess what i'm not clear is notification generaing samples != generating events from the same .. so why hold up deprecation for vol=1 notification meters | 15:36 |
| pradk | s/deprecation/removal | 15:36 |
| gordc | pradk: well the volume=1 meters come from more than one thing | 15:36 |
| gordc | they come from notificaitons and from polling | 15:37 |
| gordc | it's the polling part that we havne't covered yet. | 15:37 |
| pradk | yep, the polling ones are still there, we dint remove them yet | 15:37 |
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| pradk | gordc, just talkng about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228563/ for now | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: metric: rename metric get to show https://review.openstack.org/233129 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: benchmark: add measures show https://review.openstack.org/233130 | 15:38 |
| pradk | this just gets rid of all the notification based meters with vol==1 | 15:39 |
| pradk | now question is based on whats in event yaml, the .exists are tracked.. are they from notification or pollster or both? if notification, i feel the above commit can go through right away? | 15:39 |
| pradk | 228563 doesnt remove any pollsters | 15:40 |
| gordc | pradk: right, so it only partially removes the functionality. polling with still generate meters | 15:42 |
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| gordc | which is a weird disconnect. that we provide meter still but not really. | 15:43 |
| gordc | also the main item i'd like is to get equivalent functionality in events that we get from samples | 15:43 |
| gordc | the gap i see right now is we can't count or and we can't calculate lifespan in events | 15:44 |
| gordc | both those we can do using volume=1 meters | 15:44 |
| pradk | gordc, you mean event statistics? | 15:44 |
| gordc | pradk: sure. | 15:44 |
| pradk | gordc, ok so that would be based on whats defined in events yaml ? what i'm trying to clarify is, we eventually want to remove all vol=1 meter definitions in meter.yaml correct? | 15:45 |
| gordc | if we drop the items from meter.yaml, we either can't get count/lifespan or we get a gimped version which only works on polled data | 15:45 |
| gordc | pradk: yes we want to remove it. i just want ot have equivalent functionality in events first. | 15:46 |
| gordc | what's events yaml? | 15:46 |
| pradk | event_definitions.yaml | 15:46 |
| gordc | i see... it's not really based on that. i think we already have the equivalent volume=1 item in events_definitions.yaml | 15:47 |
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| gordc | equivalent from notificaiton pov. not from polling | 15:48 |
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| pradk | gordc, hmm ok.. so we have two things to handle, 1. event statistics which is equivalent functionality from notification pov 2. resource health check events thats based on polling pov | 15:52 |
| gordc | yeah. or we can debate about whether we need that ^ | 15:53 |
| gordc | i guess something we'll figure out at summit | 15:53 |
| gordc | i do know i've been asked multiple times how to get lifespan details from events | 15:53 |
| pradk | that == both 1 and 2? | 15:53 |
| gordc | pradk: yeah. 1 and/or 2 | 15:54 |
| pradk | gordc, so if we want to generate resource healthcheck events then we still have to poll, which means we dont remove the deprecated pollsters for existence meters? | 15:55 |
| pradk | s/meters/events | 15:56 |
| gordc | pradk: i don't know. right now our pollsters are loaded by meter name | 15:56 |
| gordc | i don't think it's as easy as just flipping it to make events. | 15:56 |
| gordc | we might not to drop it completely and have some healthcheck event pollster. | 15:57 |
| gordc | s/might not/might need/ | 15:57 |
| pradk | yea thats what i was about to say.. we might get rid/rewrite of existing pollsters to something more specific targetting only few specific ones | 15:58 |
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| pradk | gordc, i hope we dont need these for all events, only few.. but not sure what criteria we use to decide that | 16:01 |
| pradk | gordc, have people asked you any specific ones? | 16:01 |
| gordc | healthcheck events? | 16:01 |
| pradk | y | 16:01 |
| pradk | ya | 16:01 |
| gordc | not really. | 16:01 |
| gordc | i've only been asked how to get lifespan data | 16:02 |
| gordc | but that said, based on survey, seems like a lot of people are using the polling | 16:02 |
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| gordc | they don't trust notifications being reliably delievered apparently | 16:02 |
| pradk | gordc, we already have survey results somewhere? | 16:03 |
| gordc | no. nijaba gave me access to it. | 16:03 |
| gordc | but i only see part of it. it's attached to my live account and google forms keeps asking for gmail account to view results. | 16:03 |
| pradk | gordc, ah ok | 16:05 |
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| cdent | gordc: I've fixed that ceilometer-aipmi problem in devstack, has one +2 on i already, but will take a while. I think that's my good deed for the day so I'm out of here | 16:46 |
| cdent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233106/ | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: return useful message when database is not available https://review.openstack.org/230811 | 16:56 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, jd__, sileht guys ... when i issue a "gnocchi measures get" from gnocchi client, i still dont understand where the timestamp show by gnocchi comes from :( | 19:12 |
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| gordc | alejandrito: the timestamp should be the starting time of the aggregation of values. | 19:46 |
| alejandrito | gordc, decided by who ? ceilometer-collector ? gnocchi-api ? | 19:47 |
| gordc | both? when ceilometer collects/builds metrics, there's a timestamp for each discrete sample. | 19:50 |
| gordc | but when you store it in gnocchi, depending on your archive policies, each of those discrete samples will be aggregated in less datapoints | 19:51 |
| gordc | so if the value isn't aggregated, the timestamp would have come from Ceilometer (or whatever service sent the data). | 19:52 |
| gordc | if it's aggregated, it'll be based on the aggregated datapoints | 19:52 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, ok but, where whould you think the timestamp comes from, when you have an archive policy of 4 mins, you see data aggregated every 4 minutes on measures, but the timestamp is almost a day late, but gnocchi's time and date are ok, where is that timestamp comming from ? | 20:02 |
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| gordc | alejandrito: which metric? | 20:03 |
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