Thursday, 2014-08-14

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openstackgerritXu Han Peng proposed a change to stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Specification for Enable Neutron VPN as Service  https://review.openstack.org/11114502:15
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openstackgerritNeo proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network: Add tunnel_types in ovs_neutron_plugin.ini.erb  https://review.openstack.org/11410803:18
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openstackgerritSachi King proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-identity: internalURL should use the internalURL variable  https://review.openstack.org/11373407:47
openstackgerritSachi King proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-identity: internalURL should use the internalURL variable  https://review.openstack.org/11373407:56
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openstackgerritNeo proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network: Add tunnel_types in ovs_neutron_plugin.ini.erb  https://review.openstack.org/11410809:05
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j^2i was really hoping not to have to have a bug report about the glance thing14:51
j^2but it seems one has been created14:51
j^2@core https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135688714:51
os-chef-bot@j^2 @markvan_ @mattray @ctracey @galstrom @alanmeadows @andymccr @iartarisi @carlp14:51
os-chef-bot https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135688714:51
iartarisij^2: isn't that solved by just making the default charset utf8 when setting up the glance db?14:59
iartarisiand we already have '?charset=utf8' in attributes/database.rb15:01
j^2Yeah it seems it doesn't work15:09
j^2Making the default db utf8. It is created at latian115:09
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carlpYeah, that really makes me think we need to push back on Glance for that utf-8 schema revision patch found the other day15:23
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lrronce this glance utf-8 issue is fixed, will it be back ported to the icehouse stable branch?15:38
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j^2lrr: i’m betting it will15:41
j^2hell i think i’ll push for it, it’s required for the integration testing i’m attempting to do15:41
j^2i need to be able to build it right ;)15:41
lrr:)15:42
lrrbecause afaik, it's affect the icehouse stable branch as well currently15:42
lrraffecting*15:42
j^2yep15:42
j^2that seems accurate15:42
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j^2oh, so some people have asked for some discount codes for chef summit. It seems that it sells out each year so they chef doesnt give them out. Sorry about that guys.17:03
j^2markvan: ^17:03
j^2PaulCzar_: ^17:03
j^2others that i my have forgot: ^17:03
PaulCzar_cool thanks17:06
PaulCzar_I went ahead and booked anyways17:06
j^2\o/17:08
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markvanj^2: thx for looking into that.17:56
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j^2np17:56
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Need to be able to enable firewall and vpn in dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/10849319:02
markvanALL: Gate is back up, I kicked a few patches back thru the gates.19:11
markvanjklare: gate merge went in...so I think we can continue the Berks 3.x journey19:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-orchestration: Update heat conf files for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/11212319:20
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Need to be able to enable firewall and vpn in dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/10849319:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-block-storage: Update cinder conf files for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/11205219:37
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j^2os-chef-bot: !irc-meeting19:52
os-chef-botOur irc status meeting/office hours are at 20:00 GMT 16:00 EST 12:00 PST on Thursdays we try to have as many core members here so we can discuss topics or issues users are having19:52
j^2i have a topic about it in the ML i havent heard anything so i’m going to make it again today19:53
j^2#startmeeting openstack-chef20:00
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j^2Hey everyone!20:00
j^2Here’s our Thursday IRC meeting20:01
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j^2Anyone around to check in and say hi?20:01
markvanj^2: Howdy20:02
j^2#topic General Discussion20:02
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j^2Is there anything specific anyone would like to bring up?20:02
j^2I have 3 quick topics, but i’m opening it up to everyone frist20:02
carlpI don't have anything20:03
carlpso, what do you have?20:04
j^2heh, that works :P20:04
j^2#topic moving IRC meeting to friday20:04
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markvanfriday morn is fine with me20:05
j^2So Ionuț would like to have the IRC meeting moved to friday20:05
carlpok20:06
j^2cool, so any other concerns or questions? obviously it’ll start next week not tomorrow beause that’s just redundant20:08
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j^2ok, cool, next topic20:09
mattraydon't conflict with the #chef-hacking meeting20:09
j^2yeah we shouldn’t, it’s an hour before ours to the #chef-hacking :)20:09
j^2#topic the gate jobs for both master and stable20:09
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j^2markvan: you have made some movement? issues? can you explain it for the group?20:10
j^2#info mattray suggests we don’t conflict with the #chef-hacking meeting20:11
markvanyup, the gate issue was merged just a bit ago.   We are trying to setup the gate to allow for Berks 3.x to be used in Master,  but 3.x deprecated some of the 2.x commands, so we needed to put in a check.20:12
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j^2is this something we can do programaticly per branch or per repo? where does this fix exactl?20:13
markvanMy first attempt failed, but with jklare's help, we're now back on track20:13
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markvanSo, in working on this, I noticed our current gates are setup to cover all our branches, which means any change could break the stable branches.20:14
j^2agreed20:14
j^2#info our current gates cover all the branches which could break stable branches20:14
markvanI asked out on infra, and it seems like we can have separate gate jobs for Master and then for Stables.20:14
j^2oh nice20:14
markvanI'll take a look into some examples and put together a blueprint to cover that change.20:15
j^2a spec first right? ;)20:15
markvanThe other issue with messing with gates is that it's hard if not impossilbe to test it completely before pushing up a patch.20:15
markvanyup spec20:15
j^2#action markvan will write up a spec to split the branches gating jumps into master and stable20:16
markvanwe had our first patches merged  in over a week....yah!20:16
j^2btw, the meeting commands are here: https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot if anyone else wants to leverage them20:16
j^2markvan: nice!20:17
markvanAnd i would like to change the gate job for bundler to add the --retry option to allow for temp outages with installing gems.20:17
j^2that seems like a great idea20:17
markvanAnd with this latest gate update, jklare can continue to move toward getting our cookbooks up to using Berks 3.x.20:18
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j^2awesome, that’s great news20:20
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Update horizon local settings conf files for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/11205020:20
markvanI think that the summary from  gate world20:20
j^2awesome works for me20:21
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Need to be able to enable firewall and vpn in dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/10849320:21
j^2#topic General Discussion/General Questions or Concerns20:21
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carlpYes, great work Mark!20:22
j^2I’m opening the floor up to anyone or anything we would like to discuss, please don’t hesitate20:22
markvanI have several Juno pathch out there that are trying to get the cookbook up to speed with latest Juno conf file changes.  My intent was to get them in early in the cycle to set the stage for Juno.20:23
carlpI'll try and spend some time reviewing it this weekend20:23
j^2makes sense, this is to fix most/all of the conf file changes? or just get a “worknig viable product?"20:23
carlpI'm swapmed until then :(20:23
markvanWas trying to cover all the conf changes I could find.   In most cases the actual code changes are small, BUT I did try to sync with the latest conf file comments to make it easer to inspect nodes after converges.20:25
j^2are you creating specs for the specific changes too?20:25
j^2specs in the sense of tests20:26
carlpA suggestion: If the options don't exist in a config file, defaults are taken. Maybe we should just strip out all the options we don't specifically set and go from there?20:26
markvanJust straight up bugs for these initial changes....since there's very little logic changing.20:26
j^2i don’t like how we have the word specs mean too things20:26
carlpI know it means not seeing all the options in the files, but we could also move the default files to .orig or something...20:26
markvancarlp: the new issue is that some of the base project now don't include sample conf files, so nothing to look at after an install.20:27
markvanSo, I did the gen sample conf and went from there, since that fairly easy to do once a release20:28
carlpmarkvan: right, but putting a .orig or .sample file next to the generated one should be a lot less eork - no?20:28
j^2and also that’ll give the ability to diff against them too if all the sudden something popped up20:29
carlpThat way we don't have to touch it at all, just update the .sample once a release and put a note in the generated one to check there for all the options20:29
markvank, I see your point.20:29
carlpI'm not saying we have to, just a thought...20:30
markvanI guess that would only really apply to the major conf files, as most of the others are fairly small and don't change much.20:30
carlpyeah, agreed20:30
carlpHell, nova.conf has over 600 options in it. I bet we change like 2020:31
markvanyeah, and then they deprecate and/or move them to other sections20:31
j^2#info  update the .sample once a release and put a note in the generated one to check there for all the options,  that would only really apply to the major conf files, as most of the others are fairly small and don't change much.20:31
markvanprobably need a spec on this idea, to allow others to chime in.  But I think it's a good item to try to tackle in the future.20:32
xmltokso it looks like launchpad has my ICLA now20:32
carlpxmltok: yay!20:33
j^2xmltok: nice!20:33
xmltokyes, nice, it shows stuff signed from back in august so i guess it worked back then it was just crashing when rendering it back to me20:33
j^2awesome, that’s great news20:34
markvanbtw, I have been working on forking that conf sample generator to instead generate Chef attributes and templates, that way we could have every option gen'd automatically (with a few exception.)20:34
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markvanAt least that might help with trying to keep in sync with the base.20:35
markvanNew topic?   The Versioning spec?   We should try to get that initial one out and make mods as needed later.20:37
j^2markvan: wouldnt that have some overhead to it? i don’t think that has a long term advantage. greated attributes aren’t much better i think it would cause some confustion?20:37
j^2granted a sample generator should be a much larger conversation20:38
markvanj^2: Yeah, still working out the details, but would be nice to be able to branch to "k" release and know ahead of time what conf values changed.20:38
j^2maybe a spec ;)20:39
markvanyup, but seems like something to explore to see if it could help us out as the base grows.20:39
j^2sounds good20:40
j^2#topic Versioning spec20:40
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markvanThe other issue is that Chef templates don't handle [sections] very well right now. but that's another story.20:40
j^2ok so we’ve attacked this spec every which way20:40
markvanFor Versioning spec, I took a shot with a bunch of updates....would like some feedback if the general idea is sound.20:41
j^2https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110763/ is still the review?20:41
markvanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/110728/ is the Versioning one.20:42
j^2ah opps20:42
j^2i’m glad i asked20:42
j^2ha! i got my integration one conused20:43
j^2#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110728/ is the Versioning spec review20:43
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Need to be able to enable firewall and vpn in dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/10849320:44
markvanThe net of the spec is, lock down Stable branches with locks and versions for every change,  and for Master, allow some minor changes to just require a ChangeLog entry.20:45
j^2markvan: you’ve made some great changes with this. I need to read it deeper but man great job20:45
j^2!m markvan20:45
[d__d]You're doing good work, markvan!20:45
openstackj^2: Error: "m" is not a valid command.20:45
j^2i should convert that ! m command to os-chef-bot20:46
j^2oh on that note, os-chef-bot now has this20:46
j^2os-chef-bot: help20:46
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j^2you can click on it and recieve the commands he can do20:46
markvannice, I forget the cmds all the time....20:46
j^2also, being that we have the openstack bot in this room, we are being logged in two locations20:47
j^2the offical openstack one, and botbot.me20:47
j^2http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-chef/20:47
markvancool20:47
j^2there is some redundancy to this, so i’d like to have a discussion about it20:47
j^2the offical openstack is well openstack20:47
j^2botbot.me is more the “opensource” channel logger, and has searching20:48
j^2openstack doesnt20:48
j^2i’m not sure _what_ is the correct answer20:48
j^2though theres no harm in having them both20:48
j^2i’d just ilke to through it out there to see what people thing20:48
j^2think*20:48
markvanI probably need reivew the output from each...then I can give better feedback.  both for now sounds like no issue20:49
j^2agreed20:49
j^2but i wanted to at least have it on the radar20:49
markvanyup, as we improve our meetings...this will become more important20:50
j^2that’s the goal :)20:50
j^2i have to admit i am starting to dig the irc style20:50
j^2we are all here anyway20:51
markvanyeah, it's not to bad...if I coudl only type better20:51
markvannext topic, the VPN spec  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111145/20:51
j^2#topic VPN spec20:52
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markvanThis VPN spec has had some good comments and been updated to a point where I think it's pretty good.20:52
markvanJust trying to make other aware of that if they're interested.20:53
markvan#info VPN spec  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111145/      Please review if interested20:53
j^2awesome20:55
j^2it seems like a great idea, but man, SSL :-/ i have trouble with basic networking :’(20:55
markvanyeah, luckily it looks like this spec will be fairly straight forward recipe coding20:56
j^2back to the conversation about integration testing :P20:57
markvansure20:57
j^2#topic integration testing20:57
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j^2any thoughts on this? i personally have a POC when that glance issue is resolved20:57
j^2galstrom_zzz: gave me a couple people to ping about the rackspace test suites, honestly i havent yet20:59
j^2#action j^2 should ping the RS guys about the slaved jenkins machines20:59
markvanI would really like to see this happen.   Whatever I can to help, just ask20:59
j^2fix glance ;)20:59
markvanyeah, I'm have it on my list to ping the core for that and ask what's going on.21:00
markvanSeems like Nova added the auto covert to utf8 long ago...why with that exmaple should it take the other projects so long21:01
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xmltokoh you know what would be nice from a consumer of the cookbooks? tagged version numbers in the git repos21:08
j^2cool everyone, thanks for being for this hour, again, we are going to move this to friday’s. I’ll send out some data to the ML21:08
j^2#endmeeting21:08
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xmltoki basically had to abort a not so well wrapper cookbook because it went months without updates. so to use it now i would have to dig through commits to find which one has the version it was written against21:08
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j^2xmltok: no love eh? :P21:11
xmltoki dont need you anymore! hahaha21:11
j^2ha!21:12
j^2now you sound like my ex-girlfriends :P21:12
j^2(don’t tell my wife i said that) :P21:12
xmltokhaha21:12
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j^2ha!21:13
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Need to be able to enable firewall and vpn in dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/10849321:41
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed a change to stackforge/cookbook-openstack-dashboard: Update horizon local settings conf files for Juno  https://review.openstack.org/11205021:44
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markvanFinally, all the rest of the Juno conf patches are thru the gates again and ready to roll.21:59
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j^2yay!22:22
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j^2markvan: one little typo in the versioning spec22:50
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