Thursday, 2014-12-11

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openstackgerritElliott Davis proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Incorporate ssl_certificate cookbook for more robust SSL support  https://review.openstack.org/14089101:24
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openstackgerritZhiwei Chen proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common: Add a new custom matcher render_config_file to test ini file content  https://review.openstack.org/14021502:29
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libsysguyos-chef-bot ambush j^2: is this a transient failure? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140891/. It looks like sphinx failed rather than a tox error.  Just double checking before requesting a recheck.03:21
os-chef-botAmbush prepared03:21
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j^2I'll take a look in a bit03:28
os-chef-botj^2: while you were out, libsysguy said: is this a transient failure? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140891/. It looks like sphinx failed rather than a tox error.  Just double checking before requesting a recheck. sent at Thu Dec 11 2014 03:21:28 GMT+0000 (UTC)03:28
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junhonglj^2: ping03:43
j^2Hi!03:44
junhonglj^2: saw your greatest commit on the plant, it really looks perfect! :P03:44
j^2Ha, gotta have fun with that you do :)03:45
junhonglj^2: joking, haha03:45
junhonglj^2: i'm thinking that03:45
junhonglj^2: in nova, if users would like to perform a resize action to the VMs03:46
junhonglj^2: running upon KVM hypervisors03:46
junhonglj^2: it is required that the KVM hypervisors can SSH to each other with ssh key without username/password03:47
junhonglj^2: i just think that, can we add this into the compute cookbook03:47
junhonglj^2: what's your idea?03:47
junhonglj^2: i mean inject the ssh key into the KVM hypervisor when we set them up03:48
j^2Not 100% sure. A spec fully explaining what you're thinking could help hash all of this out03:48
junhonglcould you point me to the spec?03:49
j^2Oh I'm asking you to start one03:49
junhonglOh, so maybe i can propose a bp for this03:50
j^2https://github.com/stackforge/openstack-chef-specs03:51
j^2Yeah this is a pre-bp so we can have a conversation around before making it03:51
j^2junhongl: there is no way to see the conversation with bps, so for historical reasoning we put the spec repo together so we can understand why we chose the way we did04:05
j^2junhongl: like libsysguys, one he’s proposing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140891/04:06
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junhonglj^2: ok, i c, thank you!04:45
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openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Specification for enable OpenStack Bare Metal Service  https://review.openstack.org/14098309:03
openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Specification for enable OpenStack Bare Metal Service  https://review.openstack.org/14098309:05
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openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Specification for enable OpenStack Bare Metal Service  https://review.openstack.org/14098309:23
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libsysguyj^2, adding the recipe 'apt' to the run list in vagrant seems to resolve the bomb out I was seeing yesterday in the testing stack13:03
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openstackgerritElliott Davis proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-specs: Incorporate ssl_certificate cookbook for more robust SSL support  https://review.openstack.org/14089113:15
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libsysguyos-chef-bot: !meeting14:43
os-chef-botOur hangout (live) status meeting are at 15:30 GMT 10:30 EST 07:30 PST on Mondays and we post the links to the Google Group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/opscode-chef-openstack and our IRC status meeting/office hours are at 15:30 GMT 10:30 EST 07:30 PST on Thursdays we try to have as many core members here so we can discuss topics or issues users are having14:43
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j^2#startmeeting15:31
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j^2hey everyone!15:31
libsysguyhello hello15:31
j^2my internet access is spotty today, so if i drop i applogize ahead of time15:31
wenchmahello everyone15:31
j^2lets jump right in; i only have one thing i’d like to bring up, then i’ll open the floor15:32
j^2#topic Testing-framework15:32
j^2#link https://github.com/jjasghar/chef-openstack-testing-stack/blob/master/Rakefile15:33
j^2I added this last night because i realized this would be extremely helpful15:33
libsysguyomg, thank you15:33
libsysguyI was looking for something like that15:33
markvanhi15:33
j^2i was wondering if i could get some eyes on it, and also if i could ask people to start adding to it, libsysguy i’m assuming you’d want ubuntu15:33
libsysguyindeed15:34
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libsysguyI need to come up with a better way to specify the boxes15:34
libsysguyand incorporate that into the rakefile15:34
j^2the differeance between bundle exec and chef exec are something we’re gonna have bake in also15:34
j^2yeah because it’s controlled by the vagrant_linux.rb that’s the long pole in the test15:35
j^2tent15:35
libsysguyindeed15:35
j^2Anyway, i wanted to make sure i mentioned it15:35
libsysguyawesome, thanks, I'll see if I can sink some more work into that15:35
j^2also, with the help of libsysguy yesterday we’ve broken the testing-framework into two long running branches now15:35
j^2master and stable/icehouse15:35
j^2which is another step towards getting it on jenkins15:36
libsysguyj^2 I was going to ask, now that you mention Jenkins, are you using squid?15:36
j^2i’m going to on that box yeah15:36
j^2cache the pkgs15:37
j^2it’s dumb to pull them down every time15:37
libsysguyI installed it but I haven't had a chance to test the time diff yet15:37
libsysguyagreed15:37
j^2in the lab/office i have i cut my build times of the cluster down by ~45%15:37
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j^2it used to take 70-60 mins, now it’s down to  30ish mins15:38
j^2at home its only 23 mins, but that’s because i have i bigger pipe i’m assuming15:38
j^2ok, cool, i’ll open the floor to any other business. if you’d like to pm me your talking point i can moderate15:39
j^2#topic General Discussion15:39
libsysguyfollow up on my action item - it is in for review15:39
wenchmahi, I have a topic to bring up.15:41
j^2yay :)15:41
j^2wenchma: go ahead15:41
wenchma#topic bare-metal-enablement15:41
j^2#topic bare-metal-enablement15:41
j^2wenchma: the chair can only control bot ;)15:41
wenchmabare metal service will be integrated in kilo release15:42
wenchmaand there is no bare metal cookbook in stackforge15:43
j^2yep that is true, markvan you’re working on a cheatsheet for new cookbooks correct?15:44
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wenchmaj^2: markvan added a wiki to detail how to create a new project15:44
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j^2it’s a skeleton at the moment, but yeah that should be the place to start looking for the information15:45
wenchmahttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Chef/Contributing/NewCookbook15:46
j^2yep that’s it15:48
wenchmaj^2: I drafted the specifiction and submitted it to gerrit for review15:48
wenchmahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/140983/15:48
wenchmaany comment is welcomed15:49
j^2awesome thanks :)15:49
j^2#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140983/15:49
wenchmayeah15:49
j^2so i think we can all *cough*all*cough*  take an action item to look over your spec wenchma :)15:50
libsysguy:p15:51
j^2libsysguy: you wanted to discuss the neutron cookbook15:52
libsysguyyup, so that cookbook is woefully out of date by juno standards15:53
j^2#topic Neutron Cookbook15:53
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libsysguyalso, it seems like there is some odd behavior due to the "common" recipe15:53
j^2yay the bot actuall works now15:53
libsysguyI would like to make fixing that cookbook up a blocker for the juno cut15:54
j^2that’s a bold statement15:54
* libsysguy ducks15:54
j^2heh, so can you explain in more detail the issues you’ve found with juno and our neutron cookbook?15:55
libsysguysure.15:55
libsysguyso there are two critical issues that I have noticed.  The first being that ml2 is now default and has no drivers enabled by default via the cookbooks15:56
libsysguywe instead opt for the plugin arch of icehouse15:56
j^2libsysguy: that’s an issue in icehouse if it’s the same thing we’re talking about15:57
j^2https://github.com/jjasghar/chef-openstack-testing-stack/blob/master/environments/vagrant-multi-neutron.json#L4415:57
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libsysguywell that is another issue I have run across j^2, but at least that one can be worked around with overrides15:58
j^2ah15:58
libsysguyright now, we don't even offer template files for ml215:58
j^2ouch15:58
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libsysguythe upstream package maintainers ship them, but we don't touch them.  so if you look in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ you only get ml2_conf.ini, when there should be several others15:59
libsysguyone for each listed here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers15:59
libsysguyanyway, that is issue #1 (in no order)16:00
libsysguy#2 is the use of common.rb16:00
libsysguyoccasionally that recipe loses sanity and installs neutron-server on all the compute nodes16:00
libsysguywhich, unless you're using the new DVR code, you really don't want16:01
j^2is it too hair to put logic in to not do it? or it is a refactor from the ground up?16:02
libsysguywhich brings me to #3, DVR support for neutron HA is available as 'stable' in Juno16:02
libsysguywell, as a developer, I am always for a good refactor :p16:02
j^2heh16:02
libsysguyI'm not sure what the best approach would be, but eventually common needs to go16:03
libsysguyit's one giant case statement for the distros16:03
j^2but it does what we want in juno right?16:03
j^2i mean that _should_ be the way we do it, HA is almost *cough*always*cough* better than non-HA16:03
libsysguyheh16:04
j^2i like how wenchma and markvan havent chimed in at all ;)16:04
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libsysguyexactly, everyone is afraid of neutron16:04
wenchma#action review the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140983/16:04
libsysguyI am open to suggestions on how to deal with neutron, but in it's current form, ml2 support is completely borked, there is random behavior from common.rb, and we lack DVR support16:05
wenchmamarkvan is away from computer now16:05
libsysguyI didn't mean to come to the meeting and throw a grenade but this is a major pain point for me right now setting up the juno ref arch16:07
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j^2totally, and that’s what these meetings are for16:09
j^2so like all problems lets break it down into chunks right?16:09
libsysguyagreed16:09
wenchmaok16:09
wenchmaI like16:09
j^2it sounds like the biggest bang for the buck is common, it’s stale and needs eyes on?16:10
libsysguythe first two chunks are the blockers I see for a cut16:10
libsysguycorrect16:10
j^2if we can just blow it away then we take out the issue, if we need to refactor then lets refactor16:10
libsysguycommon would actually address both issues I think16:10
j^2#link https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network/blob/master/recipes/common.rb16:10
libsysguysince common is handling all the mech drivers in a case statement as well16:11
j^2jesus, this is horrible16:11
libsysguy#link https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network/blob/master/recipes/common.rb#L236-L42116:11
j^2over half of it is a case statement16:11
j^2https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network/blob/master/recipes/common.rb#L236-L44516:11
libsysguyjust to handle plugins that are depricated16:11
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libsysguyyeah…16:12
j^2so first thing first, remove the depricated options?16:12
markvanhi again, yeah the common piece was there when those plugins where the only choice.  for ml2 this got more interesting.16:12
libsysguyor move them into the appropriate ml2_driver16:12
j^2hell maybe even break the plugns out to it’s own recipe at this rate16:13
libsysguyyeah, so plugin support is still there, but they are moving to ml2 drivers16:13
markvanhumm, I don't think those others are turely deprecated just yet16:13
markvanbut our focus should be on making the main path, ml2 easier and cleaner.16:13
libsysguyj^2 that may work long term16:14
libsysguymarkvan: I agree16:14
j^2our happy path is ml216:14
j^2“happy"16:14
markvanif that requires pushing the mono plugin logic into their own recipes, sounds good to me as a first step16:14
markvanneed to clear out the clutter before trying to make ml2 work better.16:15
markvanand that might require it's own common-mono recipe as much of it is the same.16:15
markvanonce the clutter is gone, we can figure out what's need to move back into just the server and agent recipies and try to get rid of the current common one.16:16
j^2seems reasonable, but we need a tactical plan to get there right?16:17
libsysguyI would think so16:18
libsysguythat is a huge chunk of work16:18
j^2maybe start with an issue per, and then we can break it out per task?16:19
markvanyup, seems like clean out common is good first step, but leave what's there for ml2 such that we don't break that path.   The real work can start on separation of ml2 from agents.16:19
markvanwould be even better to have the int test running against the basic centos ml2 path here to make sure we16:19
markvannot breaking it along the way.   that would be getting that on juno soon.16:20
j^2i’d offer the t-f if i could, but i still have the br-ex issue to tackle16:21
j^2but yeah, it could totatly ferret out this very quickly16:21
libsysguywhen were we planning on cutting Juno?16:23
j^2“january"16:23
j^2when RC-2 is slated16:23
j^2libsysguy: can you take some action items to create the issues, so we can start tracking portions of these changes?16:23
libsysguysure16:24
j^2i think if we take our time and look through it piece by piece we should be able to knock this out16:24
libsysguyI agree16:25
j^2libsysguy: did we hit all the points you wated to talk about?16:25
j^2(5 mins)16:25
libsysguyI think so16:25
j^2#topic General Discussion16:26
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j^2any other outstading topics?16:26
markvan# topic new blueprints/specs16:26
j^2#topic new blueprints/specs16:27
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markvanjust a FYI,  there a couple new ones out there to review16:27
j^2markvan: floor is yours16:27
markvanand one is related to a adding a new cookbook for ironic, so to help with that I created a wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Chef/Contributing/NewCookbook to outline the basic steps for doing that work16:28
wenchma # topic new blueprints/specs16:28
markvanhopefully we can flush that out a bit more such that adding new cookbooks is easier.16:28
wenchmaabout ironic16:28
j^2markvan: totatly16:28
wenchmathanks16:28
markvannext topic i had was about juno branch and bp/bug reviews16:29
markvan#topic juno branch16:30
markvanJust a reminder that we need to start looking at the list of items we want in Juno branch and start pushing out the others to Kilo.  So, probably first step is to create the milestones for kilo rc and stable.16:31
j^2yep, i can make this happen16:31
markvansame for bugs16:32
markvanThen we can start to focus our efforts on getting remaining juno work items done.   So, maybe early in Jan we can set tentitive dates for our juno rc, to give it some urgency16:33
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j^2kilo in launchpad has been created16:34
j^2https://launchpad.net/openstack-chef16:34
markvannice, thx.16:34
wenchma^_^16:35
wenchmait is I need , thx16:35
j^2:D16:37
markvanwill be nice to have our final goals set for juno.   that's all I had.16:37
j^2i just threw dates in for kilo we can changes those as needed16:37
j^2i’m thinking the issues that libsysguy said should probably wrap up juno right? Do we have any other outstanding “large” issues?16:39
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j^2I’m going to end the meeting offically, but i’d like to continue discussing this in about 20-30 mins, i have to get to my office :)16:42
markvantechnically, I don't think so, but there are many to consider  (ubuntu 14, redhat 7, ruby 2.x, Rake, CI, swift, update-notify, ...)  just the tip of my list16:42
j^2#endmeeting16:42
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j^2markvan: yep, bbiab16:43
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j^2ok i’m back17:12
j^2sorry about that17:12
markvannp17:14
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j^2want to spin up a onair hangout and record a conversation about our issues?17:15
j^2markvan: libsysguy got time to now?17:15
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libsysguyyeah I do17:15
markvansure17:16
j^2kk17:16
j^2this is open to any and all: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYczGARi-XUvBo_WYM4yTVHChgA8OHYY3d6shcs_JVMOKbLIXA?authuser=0&hl=en17:18
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j^2waiting on you mark17:22
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libsysguyMeeting Notes: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/opscode-chef-openstack/9z1ryuYXTJE18:00
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j^2libsysguy: thanks :)18:08
libsysguyj^2, also just figured out the ovs problem which may be part of the issue your br-ex isn't working18:10
j^2:-O18:10
j^2want to pair up on the apt thing and tackle that together? or push to after lunch?18:11
libsysguyhttp://img.pandawhale.com/36243-slow-clap-citizen-kane-orson-w-EOU1.gif18:11
libsysguyI'm totally done with lunch so it's up to you18:11
j^2let me grab lunch, then i’ll ping you18:11
libsysguysounds good18:11
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j^2fyi: https://www.chef.io/blog/2014/12/11/upcoming-releases-for-chef-client-and-chef-development-kit/19:30
libsysguyugh the tests for common are terribad19:51
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j^2i can only imagine20:29
libsysguyI'm not sure I can test adding that ml2 plugin file without rewriting the test structure20:29
j^2ouch20:30
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markvanhow much pain do we want in juno to make this work...just brute force now and cleanup in kilo?20:44
j^2i’m leaning towards that20:48
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j^2being LTS also we can clean it up over time20:49
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openstackgerritJJ Asghar proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network: Added the ml2_conf_ovs.ini file, cause its missing  https://review.openstack.org/14118922:19
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