Thursday, 2015-01-22

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openstackgerritZhiwei Chen proposed stackforge/openstack-chef-repo: Add usage with Chef Server manual steps doc  https://review.openstack.org/14747201:14
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openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common: Add new attributes for openstack-bare-metal cookbook  https://review.openstack.org/14845801:39
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openstackgerritJin Hui proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-block-storage: Configure iscsi target service for RHEL7  https://review.openstack.org/14680505:31
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openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-bare-metal: Add installation and configuration support for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/14915205:50
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openstackgerritZhiwei Chen proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common: Correct the default password attributes when not using databag  https://review.openstack.org/14919609:41
openstackgerritMa Wen Cheng proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-bare-metal: Add installation and configuration support for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/14915209:45
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openstackgerritZhiwei Chen proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common: Correct the default password attributes when not using databag  https://review.openstack.org/14919610:54
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openstackgerritElliott Davis proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-compute: Add dependency on upstream ceph cookbook for better key management  https://review.openstack.org/14674512:33
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j^2hey everyone15:23
j^2about 5 mins and we’ll start15:23
j^2os-chef-bot: !meeting15:23
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j^2Hey everyone!15:30
zhiweihi15:30
markvanHowdy all!15:31
j^2:D15:31
j^2The agenda is pretty light, so zhiwei i’ll let you have the floor and discuss issuses15:32
j^2#topic zhiwei’s topics15:32
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zhiweithanks15:33
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zhiweiI just found an issue, there is no default passwords when set use_databags to false.15:34
j^2i think that’s by design15:35
j^2if you set use_databags to false, you should be using “debug_mode” or whatever it’s called so you don’t have any15:36
libsysguydeveloper_mode = true I think15:36
j^2https://github.com/stackforge/openstack-chef-repo#databags15:36
zhiweidev mode will be dropped.15:36
j^2yeah developer_mode15:36
markvanI think there's been a chnage of heart for developer mode....seems like it's still useful, or something like it.15:37
zhiweiI think adding the use_databags to false is to replace the dev mdoe.15:38
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zhiweiand for now the dev mode and use_databags conflicts with each other.15:38
markvanhumm, use_databags false I thought meant that you went down the attribute path for passwords, which is valid for some folks.  Where as dev mode is strictly for hacking15:39
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zhiweiuse_databags = false need below attribute openstack.secret.key.type = password.15:40
zhiweiand dev_mode = true need  openstack.secret.key = password.15:40
zhiweiso, if you set use_databags, the openstack.secret.key = {type=> password}15:41
j^2i think i follow, that makes sense15:41
zhiweimay i ask a question? why use openstack.secret.key.type not openstack.secret.type.key?15:42
j^2probably because the original dev wrote it that way and no one bothered to change it ;)15:43
zhiweiyeah.15:43
markvanthe dev-mode = true is probably used by most folks without any attributes.  that dev_secret method was added to allow further hacking dev passwords, but not sure if anyone uses it.15:43
zhiweiI think we will remove dev-mode in Kilo, is it?15:44
markvanI'm thinking we have other items to worry about, and that would be way down on the list and easily pushed out or never done.15:45
zhiweiand as Mark said before, there are more than one services use admin as user name. this will cause all services with the same uesrname must have the same password.15:45
j^2yeah i like the idea of removing dev-mode, hell the testing-stack has default passwords in the databags for you and you can always change them for a real deployment if you want15:45
zhiweimaybe we can discuss this later. But I just want to make sure in stable/juno branch the use_databag = false can work properly.15:46
zhiweiwith default attributes and value.15:47
markvanyup, but your right zhiwei even with databags as they are today, we have the issue of name collisions, so can't have different passwords for same user names.  That issue I would like to see fixed.15:47
j^2do we have a bug reported on this?15:49
j^2with examples/links to places in the code to referance?15:49
zhiweiI remember Mark had report a bug.15:49
j^2awesome, can we link it here?15:50
zhiweihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-chef/+bug/139907615:50
j^2thanks15:51
zhiweiI also opened a bug about the default attributes when not using databags: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-chef/+bug/141352215:51
zhiweishould we solve this before Kilo branch?15:52
j^2i don’t think so15:53
zhiweiok15:53
j^2i think it should be a stretch goal, we have can have review in, but i don’t think we should make it a requirement15:53
zhiweiare there any other import thing before Kilo release?15:54
markvanhumm, I think this was discussed before, about having default passwords set and the group decided no, the user can setup those attrs as needed.15:54
zhiweiok, I am ok for this.15:55
markvanIs there a strong requirement to have default ones when not using databags?    Just like databags, you have to crate and put them somewhere.15:55
zhiweiI just want to make it easy to deploy a test/dev environment.15:56
markvanMaybe we could add a bit more doc around this databag-less topic to make that easier to do15:56
markvanso, I would consider your patch something that should go int othe cookbook repo, or jj testing suite, ust like his databags15:56
zhiweiok, i will close that bug.15:57
markvanor just switch your patch to update the repo or testing suite.15:57
j^2yeah that’s why i created the databags with the key on the testing-stack15:57
j^2it’s a good way to deploy over and over15:58
markvanit's still a valid issue for testing/dev15:58
markvanyup, I really like that you took the time to build up the databags in the testing suite as that still is the main path for password use15:58
zhiweiok, I will.15:59
markvanso, adding attribute for databag-less also seems very reasonable and will help with good examples15:59
j^2cool, so i’d like to open it up to anyone else now16:02
j^2#topic General Discussion16:02
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markvan#topic blueprints16:02
markvanjust a quick plug about blueprints16:02
markvanWe have a couple spec's out there to review, please help out with that (add that project to your watched list).16:03
j^2cool, will do16:03
libsysguyyup16:03
markvanAnd we need to start cleaning up the list of active blueprints in launchpad.  Please review that list and if your an owner, adjust your status as needed or add comments to others that you can help with16:04
zhiweiok16:04
markvanWe're looking for progress, and if you have a strong opinion on which branch is can be targeted for.  Right now we are really trying to close out Juno, so will push them to kilo unless given a good reason16:05
markvan#topic Juno and redhat 7 support16:05
markvanof just a quick comment on this.16:06
j^2Juno is an LTS support, we will have to do it, but it requries a huge reswrite of at least 3-4 cookbooks16:06
markvanI believe we have decided that redhat 7 support is wanted for juno, but we have priortized ubuntu14 ahead of that for now.16:06
j^2mostly focused around mysql and the mysql 6.0.0 cookbook and the way that there isnt a mysql_service resource anymore and how the actual service is created16:07
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j^2so we’ll have to backport this; i don’t think we can realistticly get this done fro the cut16:07
markvanyes, with redhat 7, we could use the mariadb?16:08
j^2yep16:08
markvanand yes, So, while we accept redhat 7 patches if they don't mess up the ubuntu 14 goal for the stable branch.16:08
j^2but mysql 6.0.0+ knows that, and installs it correctly16:08
markvanAnd then as jj stated we can hopefully get a few good backports to stand up juno stable on redhat 7.16:08
j^2yeah and the problem is we’ll have to get mysql 6.0.0+ cookbook working with ubuntu14 before we even think about centos716:09
zhiweiwe should use mysql 6+ in Juno if it can correctly use mariadb.16:09
j^2zhiwei: agreed, but this is both the version of mysql AND the cookbook: https://github.com/chef-cookbooks/mysql16:09
j^2as you can see the cookbook is in “chef-cookbooks” now16:10
j^2not opscode16:10
zhiweiyeah16:10
j^2it’s one of the “blessed” cookbooks wit hthe way we are going to start writing the resource and providers to create resources for everything16:10
markvanhumm, so this cookbook will handle ubuntu 14 correctly, but we need changes on our side?16:11
zhiweiIt does not address forks or value-added repackaged MySQL distributions like Drizzle, MariaDB, or Percona.16:11
zhiweihttps://github.com/chef-cookbooks/mysql#scope16:11
zhiweiit has package_name parameter.16:13
zhiweiso we can use the RP in our recipes16:13
j^2markvan: the mysql_service we call which flusdes the db and crap like that16:13
j^2we’ll have to rewrite alot of set up16:13
markvanyeah, we have some old hacky code in there, hopefully most of it just gets deleted16:14
markvanwhat did you use to get the testing suite to work on ubuntu 14?16:14
j^2honestly:16:15
j^2https://github.com/jjasghar/chef-openstack-testing-stack/commit/0863abc61d3030e49b07ddfc5060fb2bf743328216:16
j^2https://github.com/jjasghar/chef-openstack-testing-stack/commit/7634b157049fd21e275925a5c8c2d3d6270487bf16:16
j^2those two thnigs16:16
j^2updated rabbitmq cookbook16:16
j^2added ubuntu1416:16
j^2and it just worked16:16
markvanAnd you have no version on mysql cookbook, so your using the latest.16:17
j^2actually no i’m not16:18
j^2there are constrants lower that require 5.616:18
markvanah, yup16:18
j^2we have inconsistant constrants through our cookbooks which is annoying to say the least16:18
j^2_but_ that’s by “design”16:19
markvanyes, was my next topic.16:19
j^2kk16:19
markvan#topic dependent cookbook versions16:20
markvanThere has been some discussion on this lately and wanted to go over it16:21
zhiweiyes16:21
zhiweihttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-chef/+spec/cookbook-version-constraint16:21
zhiweithis link my be helpful.16:21
j^2zhiwei: nice, thanks16:21
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j^2zhiwei: oh great doc man, thank you for putting this together16:22
markvanyup, I think for the major dependencies like mysql and rabbit, we should go ahead and put in the 2 depends lines for Juno16:22
j^2that’s not a horrible idea16:23
j^2so we can scope it down16:23
j^2but not get pigeon holed if you will16:24
markvanyup, try to get some better control for a stable branch16:24
markvanI know this blueprint does not have a spec, but if we agree here, we can approve it and mark it for Juno.16:25
j^2i don’t want to commit to it yet, i need to think about it16:25
j^2so i abstain16:25
markvansure, we can circle back on that one.  Maybe next step it to put in some explicit blueprint workitems to show the scope for Juno changes.  zhiwei can you start that piece?16:27
j^2good idea16:27
zhiweiok.16:27
markvanthx16:27
markvan#topic  rake in infra16:28
markvanJust a quick update on where we are.  we have patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148465/ to just begin sandbox for rake.16:28
markvanNext steps are to switch that to running on trusty with a Chefdk prep step.    Then the BIG switch, allow branch specific gates to cover the non-Rake breanches and the new Rake ones.16:29
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j^2shit shouldnt that be chef exec rake test?16:29
j^2so it leverages chafed?16:30
j^2chefdk16:30
markvanwith next step and the chefdk, where not there yet.16:30
j^2k16:30
markvanthis first pass is just to see what issue Rake will bring us.16:30
j^2ack16:31
markvan#link https://gist.github.com/jjasghar/48282346d7a3a0be6846   prep step for ChefDK16:31
j^2we might want to put 0.3.6 in, it was just released yesterday16:31
markvanI'm working on looking into the branch specific gates and how to do that with current infra templates.16:31
markvanyup, installing 3.6 now, has many win updates for me16:32
markvan#topic Open for general discussion16:33
j^2cool, i think i’m good with the discussion today16:34
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j^2jklare: we missed you today ;)16:34
j^2(yes i’ll call you out :P)16:34
j^2any other topics?16:35
j^2zhiwei: btw, i’ve been trying to think about a good time for a video meeting, i have a couple propsals, i should send something out to the ML today getting feedback16:36
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markvanim done for now16:36
zhiweiok, I will check ML and give you feedback.16:36
j^2awesome, thanks everyone16:37
j^2#endmeeting16:37
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jklarej^2: sry, i am in the middle of a deploy16:40
j^2no worries, just giving you a hard time ;)16:40
markvanj^2: just checking, you have pushed up all your changes for u14 into testing stack?16:44
markvan(BTW, the readme starting paragraphs need some tweaks...)16:44
j^2Yep I think I have it all pushed up. I'm in the car ATM, let me check in 2016:45
markvank16:45
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j^2markvan: yep, everything is pushed up17:20
markvank, I'm going thru it now.  Is it time to just go thru a single path with ChefDK?  that would cleanup a bunch of steps17:21
markvanalso, your rake file is specific to linux, does not work on windows.17:22
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markvanj^2: bummer, chefdk 0.3.6 has bug in chef-provisioning ssh I just hit, will try to work around it18:05
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markvanj^2: I'm close now, hit that rabbitmq issue with version 3.8.0 and the 3.4.3 rabbit is not avail on ubuntu 14, looks like it should be 3.2.4?  sound familiar?19:19
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libsysguyyes, I've got that set in my override19:57
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markvanlibsysguy: did you also change the Gem to pull in chef 12, I see '~> 11.16.0'  right now?20:00
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libsysguyI didn't markvan20:01
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markvanyeah, it seems to be working...but I think I'm going to bump it to better match our upcoming infra changes20:02
libsysguysounds like a good idea20:04
j^2eh? on the rabbitmq...20:05
j^2i’m lost20:05
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markvanj^2: version 3.2.4-1 is avail on trusty, but default for rabbitmq cookbook is latest, 3.4.3, so it fails.  Needed to override that version attr.   Now had my first aio-nova complete successfully20:23
j^2 hmm interesting20:23
j^2can you put in a PR for that?20:23
j^2i got around it somehomw...20:24
markvanyeah, actually I have a bunch of updates for the testing suite, I put them out later, gotta run now20:24
j^2kk20:24
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openstackgerritMatt Ray proposed stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common: The bits have moved from epel-6 to epel-7 for RHEL  https://review.openstack.org/14939821:29
krtyyymarkvan: Hey Mark. Ken Thomas here. Thanks for doing the review on the endpoint changes. Quick heads up: I just noticed a similar issue and proposed change with a different approach.  I took the liberty of adding you as a reviewer to the other change so that you can advise on which direction to take.21:30
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markvankrtyyy: thx, I'll take a look22:35
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