Wednesday, 2015-09-30

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-chef-repo: fix multi patch support  https://review.openstack.org/22915704:09
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markvanCheck out latest patches for compute and identity that sync up paste.ini, with these the int test is working again.13:33
markvanBut I also see that all the rake files need to be updated to allow for the new integation test at the cookbook patch levels.  Will need to pull down repo and run it's integration task.13:36
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jklaremarkvan j^2  i think we need to stop this +2+1 from one person, since this patch for debugging was nearly merged ...13:38
jklare@core against our last (maybe too fast agreement) that it is allowed to +2+1 'minor' patches without the review of another core reviewer, i ask you to NOT do this anymore, since there seems to be a major discrepancy between the judgements of what is a 'minor' patch (maybe we can have a short discussion here later at our sync-up 15:00UTC in this channel). cheers13:44
os-chef-bot@j^2 @markvan @mattray @wenchma @jklare @cmluciano @zhiwei @sc` against our last (maybe too fast agreement) that it is allowed to +2+1 'minor' patches without the review of another core reviewer, i ask you to NOT do this anymore, since there seems to be a major discrepancy between the judgements of what is a 'minor' patch (maybe we can have a short discussion here later at our sync-up 15:00UTC in this channel). cheers13:44
j^2Sounds good. We should also mark [WIP] too13:46
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jklarej^2 yep, its a bummer that one can not do this while pushing the review to gerrit13:51
j^2Yeah I merged because they seemed reasonable and helped use get to the bottom of the integration testing issues. My mistake13:52
markvanj^2: jklare: yup agree.  Those two sync patches need review for int tests to work, I marked the repo one as wip since it's not really needed, but allows the depends-on to work.14:08
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j^2Hey think of it this way. At least we're making forward progress15:34
j^2:)15:34
sc`forward progress is always good. i'm in agreement that we need more eyes on changes, but the bigger issue is that we just need more eyes period15:35
jklareyeah, i hope that a major refactoring of our cookbooks will help with that15:36
jklaremaybe these whole cookbook stack right now (especially the complexity of attributes) is too complex or needs to much time to understand initially15:36
jklareand you need even more time to patch it15:36
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sc`as someone who has integreated the cookbooks into an existing chef infrastructure, it's rather complicated to accomplish15:37
sc`keeping up with openstack's velocity just adds to that complexity15:37
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sc`i think the biggest hurdle with contribution is chef itself. prospective deployers mostly gravitate towards puppet since packagers like rdo push puppet-based deployments. not sure how to overcome that15:52
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sc`unless the org is already using chef, the sell on bringing it in can be tough15:53
sc`contrast with packstack or instack15:53
sc`it's just a yum -y install ...15:53
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j^2https://twitter.com/rubygems/status/64925793594051788816:23
j^2just pushed it out :D16:24
j^2sc`: i wanted to talk to you or edgar in toyko with Jan, are either of y’all gonna be there?16:24
j^2Jan came up with an idea to get some recruits and we’ll need Workday to help us16:25
sc`i won't be making it to tokyo, unfortunately16:25
j^2booo16:25
j^2Edgar?16:26
sc`i think edgar will be16:26
j^2nice, i’ll find some time, remind me jklare to set it up16:26
j^2or make it happen for that matter :P16:26
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jklarej^2 i will try to keep that in mind16:40
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j^2awesome16:52
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jklarej^2 is chef11 still supported?17:02
j^2offically?17:02
jklareyep17:02
j^2critical patches iirc, but focus is on 1217:02
jklaremmhhh... is the fact that it merges attributes with different precedences if one is just a hash and the other is an array of hashes critical?17:03
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j^2yeah i don’t think that something that works in 12 isn’t expected to work in 11. There were major  breaking changes in 12 so when you move to 12 you shouldn’t look back.17:04
jklarej^2 this is what i mean http://hastebin.com/uxokisofoc.coffee17:06
j^2ah17:06
jklareinstead of overriding the attribute with the one from the higher precedence17:07
jklareit just merges everything into one new attribute17:07
jklarenot sure if its the same in 1217:07
jklarebut that seems broken to me17:07
j^2yeah i’m not 100% sure tbh17:07
j^2i’d pull some other than me in to ask these types of questions17:08
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jklarekk i will try to ping people in the #chef channel17:08
jklarethanks17:08
j^2yeah17:08
j^2if you can’t get anyone, i’ll see if i can find someone for you17:09
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