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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-common: library cleanup and refactoring https://review.openstack.org/249133 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-common: library cleanup and refactoring https://review.openstack.org/249133 | 11:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 11:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 14:58 |
| jklare | markvan you around? | 15:40 |
| markvan | howdy | 15:43 |
| jklare | hi | 15:43 |
| jklare | i was just looking at your comments | 15:43 |
| jklare | regarding the deletion of the attributes with secrets | 15:43 |
| jklare | do you mean to move the ruby block into a method in common oder to move the whole ruby block into a library | 15:44 |
| jklare | the issue with using a simple method here is the time of execution | 15:44 |
| jklare | if we put it in a library, it will be executed during compile and we would delete all the secrets before starting the converge | 15:45 |
| jklare | which might be a bad idea in case somebody else wants to access these attributes | 15:45 |
| jklare | like mq password or something similar | 15:45 |
| markvan | I was thinking of the whole ruby block | 15:46 |
| sc` | as a fellow operator, we care about secrets attributes and don't want them to be deleted before starting convergence | 15:46 |
| jklare | hi sc` :) | 15:46 |
| sc` | hi :D | 15:46 |
| jklare | markvan personally i do not like the idea of using chef ressources inside of libraries | 15:47 |
| jklare | markvan makes the complexity of the compile/converge separation even harder to understand | 15:48 |
| markvan | yeah, it's a bit ugly, but in this case is just a sudo ruby block resource, so not a big deal in my mind. I like keep this logic together | 15:49 |
| markvan | but it was just a thought...I'm not stuck on it | 15:49 |
| sc` | not a big deal for folks, who are running these cookbooks as root on the destination node | 15:49 |
| jklare | currently i do not really like the whole idea about the attribute itself, but i found no better option of allowing the handover of secret attributes from wrappers | 15:50 |
| jklare | the only other way is to go lower into the ruby world and push the secret options to the transient node object itself, which would not be saved | 15:51 |
| jklare | but that means that people wrapping the cookbooks would need to understand this ruby stuff | 15:51 |
| jklare | which is out of scope for the "normal" day to day chef usage | 15:51 |
| sc` | the less "magic", the better things are for everyone, especially the downstream consumers (ie. operators) | 15:52 |
| markvan | humm, just thinking outloud...could this cleanup logic also be put into the end of the template? | 15:52 |
| markvan | yup, don't think it's worth more than attribute usage | 15:53 |
| jklare | from the ruby side this is possible | 15:53 |
| jklare | but i think the template is not the right place (i would never ever search there) for this kind of logic | 15:54 |
| sc` | some colleagues of mine might get onto you about putting logic in templates :D | 15:55 |
| jklare | :D | 15:55 |
| markvan | yeah, while it make the recipe a bit cleaner, it's harder to find | 15:55 |
| jklare | i think we should stick with this logic and the ruby block in the recipe for now and can move it later if necessary | 15:55 |
| markvan | I'm a big DRY fan, so that's why I think something like this should be in common | 15:55 |
| markvan | sure, just add a todo to discuss this later in the bp and move on | 15:56 |
| sc` | common makes more sense for shared hackery | 15:56 |
| markvan | yup, common is usually search stop #1 for most folks | 15:57 |
| jklare | yeah | 15:57 |
| jklare | mmhhh... | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-common: library cleanup and refactoring https://review.openstack.org/249133 | 15:59 |
| jklare | i think we should probably still move the template into the common cookbook | 16:00 |
| jklare | did not do that yet | 16:00 |
| jklare | this will clean up a lot of duplication though all the cookbooks | 16:00 |
| jklare | and i will think again about a good solution for the ruby block to remove the secret attributes | 16:01 |
| jklare | maybe we need some more helper methods | 16:01 |
| jklare | ... | 16:01 |
| markvan | yes, I agree template should be in common, that kinda enforces the strategy here of keeping it generic | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-common: library cleanup and refactoring https://review.openstack.org/249133 | 16:50 |
| jklare | markvan i moved the template to common now | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-identity: refactoring final step https://review.openstack.org/250854 | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack/cookbook-openstack-common: library cleanup and refactoring https://review.openstack.org/249133 | 16:57 |
| markvan | jklare: ok, I'll take a look | 17:13 |
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