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| sc` | any reason not to eol mitaka for the cookbooks? | 12:42 |
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| jklare | sc` no, i think we should do that | 14:05 |
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| frickler | jklare: looks like if you mail tonyb, he will do that for you | 14:19 |
| frickler | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115308.html | 14:20 |
| sc` | that's where i was leading up to :) | 14:31 |
| sc` | the more i keep digging into our chef-provisioning setup, the more it seems to be totally rotten. i'm thinking the pre-provisioning stuff may be able to be coopted out of the juno branch | 14:49 |
| sc` | test-kitchen is nowhere near where we need to be for testing the whole set en masse | 14:50 |
| sc` | chefdk seems to break the provisioning cookbook, and nobody wants to work on the vagrant driver | 14:53 |
| sc` | chefdk 1.3 that is | 14:54 |
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| sc` | i'm open to other suggestions :) | 15:03 |
| jklare | sc` i have not thought about a proper integration testing solution for multi node scenarios and chef for a while, since this seems to be completely unsupported by chef | 15:10 |
| sc` | jklare: their "answer" is habitat, or terraform | 15:10 |
| jklare | sc` these things solve other problems imho | 15:11 |
| sc` | that they do | 15:11 |
| sc` | i don't particularly support any one path, just a path forward | 15:12 |
| jklare | sc` +1 | 15:12 |
| sc` | chef-provisioning scratched our itch for a while, and it was grand | 15:12 |
| sc` | but now that's becoming a problem, soon to be liability | 15:12 |
| jklare | sc` maybe reducing the integration tests to a very minimal setup is a good option here | 15:12 |
| sc` | indeed | 15:13 |
| jklare | sc` i think if the setup gets small enough, we can try to go with some very simple chef-zero | 15:13 |
| sc` | instead of focusing on multi, focus on the micro aspect to (hopefully) weather things until zuulv3 | 15:13 |
| sc` | makes sense to me | 15:13 |
| sc` | multi integration feels more like boil the ocean the more i go, and zuulv3 is intended to replace most of that | 15:14 |
| sc` | feels like effort could be spent elsewhere | 15:14 |
| jklare | sc` the other question is if we need to stick with infra testing for now or just go for unit,style,lint on infra and move to a third party ci with integration | 15:15 |
| sc` | not much can be borrowed from other efforts, so i find myself reinventing wheels made out of mud | 15:15 |
| jklare | sc` :D | 15:16 |
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| sc` | it's shaping up like i'm going to be going to boston next month, so maybe some high bandwidth conversations can take place | 15:42 |
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