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| openstackgerrit | Rushi Agrawal proposed openstack/cinder: Hitachi: Remove duplicate CHAP opts https://review.openstack.org/149542 | 05:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/152401 | 06:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | rajiv proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cinderclient accepts arguments after metadata without -- seprator https://review.openstack.org/156499 | 08:21 |
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| anish | sweet victory, merged ! | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Kaufer proposed openstack/cinder: GET volumes API sorting enhancements common utilities https://review.openstack.org/141914 | 14:31 |
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| sdague | is there a cinder core to fast approve this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156182/ - it's a now useless requirement listing that we want to get out of the g-r list, and cinder is the last remaining project with it | 15:15 |
| DuncanT | sdague: Looking now | 15:17 |
| DuncanT | sdague: Added +2 - I'll force it through if no other cores pop up in the next 20 minutes or so, but I really refer not to skip process like that, even for 'obviously correct' things | 15:18 |
| sdague | understood, thanks | 15:18 |
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| DuncanT | Hopefully somebody will be online shortly, it's about that time | 15:20 |
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| eharney | done | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marc Koderer proposed openstack/cinder: Port rbd driver to use new driver model https://review.openstack.org/138661 | 15:28 |
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| e0ne | DuncanT: hi. could you take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131182/? please | 15:52 |
| hemna | morning | 15:53 |
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| e0ne | hemna: evening:) | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Volume multi attachments https://review.openstack.org/154135 | 15:56 |
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| DuncanT | e0ne: Will do | 16:01 |
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| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/os-brick | 16:14 |
| hemna | it's official | 16:14 |
| hemna | FYI | 16:14 |
| guitarzan | yay | 16:14 |
| guitarzan | congrats hemna :) | 16:14 |
| hemna | only took 1 year! | 16:14 |
| hemna | :P | 16:14 |
| hemna | guitarzan, thanks | 16:15 |
| hemna | now the real work can begin | 16:15 |
| guitarzan | so here's a (hopefully interesting) question | 16:15 |
| guitarzan | does anyone know how I can tell if a manager has any call in progress? | 16:16 |
| guitarzan | preferrably without resorting to inspecting the eventlet hub | 16:16 |
| guitarzan | because that's the only real idea I have | 16:16 |
| hemna | heh | 16:16 |
| hemna | not currently afaik | 16:16 |
| hemna | unless you track the notifications | 16:17 |
| guitarzan | notifications are an idea I hadn't really considered, that's one, thanks | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | hemna: +1 on os-brick! | 16:17 |
| hemna | w00t! | 16:17 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT: this might be something you're interested in, so maybe you have ideas | 16:18 |
| eharney | hemna: yay | 16:18 |
| DuncanT | guitarzan: As far as I know, that is not tracked anywhere yet. It'd be a nice add, done cleanly | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | jbernard: hvent confirmed this yet but this is my theory http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/057161.html | 16:19 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT: stopping a volume manager for a restart is pretty easy, but I don't have a good way to let it gracefully exit | 16:22 |
| DuncanT | hemna: Good stuff | 16:22 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT: I'm currently just killing the rpc connection, which works well enough | 16:23 |
| DuncanT | guitarzan: I don't know an easy way of finding out what requests are running, I'm afraid. It'd be nice thing to have though | 16:23 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT: and I can just sigterm the process itself | 16:23 |
| guitarzan | but it would be slick if it could just shut itself down when all things in progress finish | 16:23 |
| DuncanT | Killing the RPC connection and waiting for a bit is probably a reasonable first pass, but some things (e.g. glance uploads & downloads) take ages | 16:23 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT: yeah, first step is to just let it run forever until killed | 16:24 |
| guitarzan | I can start up another manager beside the first one after an upgrade for example | 16:24 |
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| DuncanT | guitarzan: Getting a list of what is in progress (and how long it has been in progress for) would be useful for debugging too | 16:24 |
| guitarzan | very true | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: Clear migration_status from a destination volume if migration fails https://review.openstack.org/154739 | 16:25 |
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| mtanino | hemna: Congratulations! os-brick! | 16:26 |
| hemna | thanks :) | 16:26 |
| mtanino | Finally glance can use cinder as a backend by using this :) | 16:27 |
| hemna | :) | 16:27 |
| hemna | so there are some things on my short list to update in os-brick | 16:27 |
| hemna | need to talk with thingee about when we can do a first release of it as well. | 16:28 |
| hemna | which I need in order to remove brick/initiator from cinder | 16:28 |
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| hemna | So, Nova's multiattach code is out for Kilo | 16:36 |
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| hemna | 3rd time I've tried to get multiattach in OpenStack | 16:37 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 16:37 |
| hemna | every time, it's Nova's side that fails to get in that blocks it. | 16:37 |
| hemna | I'm pretty much over it at this point. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Do we need to get some Cinder folks focused on it in Nova once L opens? | 16:38 |
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| hemna | I did it in the Icehouse timeframe, but it didn't make it | 16:38 |
| hemna | so I dunno | 16:38 |
| hemna | if someone else wants to pick up the Nova side, which is a huge mess, I can do the rebase dance for the Cinder side. | 16:39 |
| hemna | I'd be surprised if my mgrs let me work on it again at all. | 16:39 |
| hemna | they kinda fought me on it for the K release. | 16:39 |
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| hemna | I'll talk with thingee about possibly landing the Cinder code anyway. | 16:40 |
| hemna | doubtful that's what we want though | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Definitely an unfortunate situation. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | All around | 16:41 |
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| xyang | hemna :( | 16:46 |
| xyang | hemna: I thought Jay Pipes and Tobias are working on it? | 16:46 |
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| hemna | they were | 16:47 |
| hemna | and got stuck | 16:47 |
| hemna | at the end | 16:47 |
| hemna | it was because cinder's multi-attach hadn't landed yet. | 16:47 |
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| hemna | chicken/egg | 16:47 |
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| hemna | and they didn't want to put checks in place to test for client versions. | 16:47 |
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| xyang | hemna: nova side always want cinder side to land first:( | 16:47 |
| hemna | so honestly, I don't see how this will ever land. | 16:47 |
| hemna | I'm pretty bummed out about it | 16:48 |
| hemna | my 3rd time trying | 16:48 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 16:48 |
| hemna | completely dysfunctional | 16:48 |
| xyang | hemna: if cinder side can still work without nova changes, we can get cinder side in first? | 16:48 |
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| hemna | the cinder side changes work | 16:50 |
| hemna | and are backwards compatible | 16:50 |
| hemna | or the check/tempest tests wouldn't work. | 16:50 |
| hemna | so I'll see if thingee has any interest in this code landing in K | 16:50 |
| hemna | just for cinder and cinderclient | 16:50 |
| xyang | it will be good to get cinder side in first | 16:51 |
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| xyang | then nova side in L | 16:51 |
| hemna | if not, my involvement in multi-attach might be done | 16:51 |
| hemna | simply because of my mgrs not wanting me to work on it yet again | 16:51 |
| xyang | :( | 16:51 |
| hemna | I had to convince them to let me work on it for K | 16:51 |
| xyang | you put in lots of effort | 16:52 |
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| hemna | yah :( | 16:59 |
| hemna | oh well. you win some, you don't. | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder: Sync policy module from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/156412 | 17:15 |
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| anteaya | DuncanT: did the chap from intel who said he would look at the gerrit inline comment automation show up in this channel at all? | 17:22 |
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| anteaya | DuncanT: I haven't seen or heard from him since | 17:22 |
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| zzzeek | yeah this is a crap show | 17:33 |
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| hemna | anteaya, is there any support in the check/gate for cross project dependent reviews ? | 17:40 |
| anteaya | yes | 17:40 |
| * anteaya digs up the mailing list post | 17:40 | |
| anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056515.html | 17:41 |
| anteaya | bit of a read | 17:41 |
| hemna | anteaya, ok thanks | 17:41 |
| anteaya | np | 17:41 |
| anteaya | have a read then come back with questions | 17:41 |
| anteaya | you can see it in action in the check queue: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 17:42 |
| anteaya | the grey dots are the parents which don't need to be tested this round | 17:42 |
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| anteaya | the green or red dot is the testing patch and its place in the stack of dependencies | 17:43 |
| hemna | anteaya, so I'm not seeing any cross project checks ? | 17:45 |
| hemna | where nova deps on cinder | 17:45 |
| hemna | or something like that | 17:45 |
| anteaya | because there are currently none to be tested | 17:48 |
| anteaya | but we have seen them on the status page | 17:48 |
| anteaya | where the dependency is there | 17:48 |
| anteaya | do you have one you can try out? | 17:48 |
| guitarzan | hemna's is a cycle :) | 17:50 |
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| anteaya | then zuul shuts down | 17:54 |
| anteaya | not shuts down, stops trying to organize the patch series to test it | 17:54 |
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| cebruns_ | anteaya: I'm the "intel chap" :) I tracked down the checkpatch code owner that was DuncanT referred to. It's a PERL script adopted from kernel.org. Haven't dug too far into it from there. | 18:17 |
| anteaya | cebruns_: ah there you are | 18:18 |
| anteaya | cool | 18:18 |
| anteaya | what are you doing in about 40 minutes? | 18:18 |
| anteaya | care to attend the infra meeting? | 18:18 |
| cebruns_ | Sure - can do! | 18:19 |
| anteaya | thank you | 18:20 |
| anteaya | cebruns_: do you have a url for the example DuncanT showed again? | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | cebruns_: Do you happen to have a link to that PERL script. Just curious to take a peek. | 18:21 |
| anteaya | might be helpful to share that with the others | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | anteaya: ;) | 18:21 |
| anteaya | yup | 18:21 |
| cebruns_ | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/scripts/checkpatch.pl and | 18:21 |
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| smcginnis | cebruns_: Thanks! | 18:21 |
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| cebruns_ | http://review.whamcloud.com/#/c/13402/1/lustre/tests/parallel-scale-cifs.sh | 18:22 |
| smcginnis | Nice! That would be cool to have that in our reviews. | 18:23 |
| cebruns_ | Here's a cinder review that fails style checks that would be useful to have inline commenting (as opposed to digging through log): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151737/ | 18:23 |
| anteaya | yes | 18:24 |
| anteaya | cebruns_: can you add an item to the infra meeting agenda? | 18:24 |
| anteaya | and bring the links with you? | 18:24 |
| cebruns_ | Haha - of course. | 18:24 |
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| DuncanT | anteaya: cebruns_: looks like you're sorted. | 18:25 |
| anteaya | cebruns_: great thank you | 18:27 |
| anteaya | DuncanT: if you happen to be available as well it would be nice to have your voice at the meeting, since it was your suggestion | 18:27 |
| anteaya | but I know it is late for you | 18:27 |
| DuncanT | Yeah, I've a lot on this evening, and I think cebruns has a good handle on it - it isn't a complex suggestion, just a nice idea I spotted and thought we should steal | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: If you're up late and bored, would you mind taking a look over this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155479/ | 18:29 |
| smcginnis | Adding CI tests for this driver are blocked on getting this to pass reliably. | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: But I know it's late there so no worries if not. | 18:30 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: open in a tab, will take a look either tonight or in the morning | 18:30 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: just A+'ed it | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT, e0ne Thanks! | 18:30 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks for filing bug for it | 18:31 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: You must have hit the button as I was typing. I swear I just looked at it. :) | 18:31 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: maybe.... it was on my review list for tonight | 18:31 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Well much appreciated. Thanks for working late! | 18:32 |
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| hemna | anteaya, so yah, multiattach is one openstack capability the requires changes in cinder => cinderclient => Nova. | 18:32 |
| hemna | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85847/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85856/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153033/ | 18:32 |
| cebruns_ | anteaya: added to the agenda. | 18:33 |
| hemna | the nova patch fails, because it has a logical dep on cinderclient, which has a dep on cinder. | 18:33 |
| hemna | so is there a way to post those deps in the commit message that allows the check/jenkins to pull those in during tempest tests? | 18:34 |
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| hemna | anteaya, I guess I should read the ML post you gave me :P | 18:35 |
| anteaya | cebruns: thanks | 18:35 |
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| * DuncanT would prefer not to see multi-attach in cinder kilo, since it plain won't work without the nova changes, and he has spent far too much time explaining over and over that replication currently doesn't really work except in one case, no you can't set it up with LVM, no not even if you fiddle around a bit or keep asking over and over. | 18:35 | |
| anteaya | hemna: you read that I will check current dependcies on the patches you posted | 18:35 |
| DuncanT | I know that won't sit well with Walt though | 18:35 |
| anteaya | DuncanT: thanks for weighing in | 18:36 |
| DuncanT | hemna: Are there any bits we can get landed that don't make it look like the feature is there but lay the ground work? DB changes etc? Without the API changes? | 18:36 |
| hemna | DuncanT, it's ok. I assumed as much prior to even posting the question. | 18:36 |
| hemna | So, the current cinder/cinderclient changes in my patches are infact backwards compatible | 18:37 |
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| hemna | the only API change was an optional attachment_id being passed in a detach time. | 18:37 |
| hemna | it defaults to None | 18:37 |
| hemna | which assumes a single attachment. | 18:38 |
| anteaya | okay as far as the cross repo dependency question goes (no opinion on multi-attach) is that as far as I can see none of the patches have dependenices on anything else | 18:38 |
| anteaya | so a straightforward chain of using Depends-on <change-id> should allow zuul to get them tested together | 18:38 |
| hemna | anteaya, so basically nova's patches would put Depends-On: <cinderclient review id>, cinder client's patch would put Depends-On: <cinder's review id> | 18:38 |
| hemna | and it should just work? | 18:39 |
| anteaya | so put Depends-on <change-id> in the commit messages | 18:39 |
| hemna | ok cool | 18:39 |
| anteaya | yes | 18:39 |
| anteaya | it should just work | 18:39 |
| hemna | ™ | 18:39 |
| anteaya | which doesn't stop duncan from swooping in with his -2 | 18:39 |
| hemna | yah | 18:39 |
| anteaya | but gerrit hopefully should get them tested together | 18:39 |
| anteaya | and yes thanks for the tm | 18:40 |
| anteaya | don't know how to do that myself | 18:40 |
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| hemna | :P | 18:40 |
| * anteaya is in awe of hemna's irc prowess | 18:40 | |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: hi Jay. i be happy if you'll got few minutes to read my comment for https://review.openstack.org/156292 today | 18:41 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Ok, will do. Need to head to an appointment but will do that this afternoon. | 18:42 |
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| e0ne | jungleboyj: thank you | 18:43 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Welcome. | 18:43 |
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| DuncanT | hemna: I'll take a look at the patches. | 18:56 |
| hemna | ok thanks | 18:56 |
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| jgriffith | https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/a-conversation-with-cinder-developers | 19:10 |
| jgriffith | We'll bring Duncan and others up as well | 19:10 |
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| e0ne | already voted for it | 19:11 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks for taking care of that. Speading the word here to get some votes. | 19:16 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: thanks! | 19:17 |
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| guitarzan | jgriffith: if you're curious and have a minute: https://gist.github.com/corystone/92714263f55bb60009a6 | 20:18 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: this is an old patch against havana though | 20:18 |
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| guitarzan | I guess some of the service stuff moved :) | 20:18 |
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| guitarzan | I'm curious what people think of the idea | 20:19 |
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| jgriffith | guitarzan: looking | 20:20 |
| guitarzan | it's way smaller than I expected | 20:20 |
| guitarzan | kill -USR1 <top cinder pid> | 20:21 |
| guitarzan | and the magic happens | 20:21 |
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| jgriffith | guitarzan: cool, so a way to "nicely" bring the services down | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | kinda | 20:22 |
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| smcginnis | guitarzan: Nice | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | the idea is you can "maintenance" your running cinder | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | do your upgrade | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | start a new one | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | while the other one is still running | 20:22 |
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| jgriffith | guitarzan: so how do you keep "new" things from going in to the queue while you're flushing it? | 20:22 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: the main point is to close the rpc connection | 20:23 |
| guitarzan | so it doesn't even read any more messages | 20:23 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: oh... I think I see | 20:23 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: but you're right, it's also a "nice" shutdown | 20:23 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: so it shuts down the listener, empties out the queue then dies basically? | 20:24 |
| guitarzan | self.conn.close() is the most important line of the patch :D | 20:24 |
| guitarzan | it just empties anything running in eventlet | 20:24 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: yeah, and I didn't see it first time through :) | 20:24 |
| guitarzan | it doesn't actually read any more messages | 20:24 |
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| guitarzan | I'm not sure the eventlet hub timer length thing is actually correct, but it "seems to work for me" | 20:25 |
| guitarzan | I would be happy if it didn't even shut down | 20:25 |
| guitarzan | just sat and spun forever until the ops sigterms it | 20:25 |
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| guitarzan | but if there's a smart way to shut down, that's even better | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: ohhh... I see | 20:26 |
| guitarzan | yeah, it's more about restarting cinder-volume than anything else | 20:26 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: well, and it avoids some of the issues with taking down the service while something is in flight which is an added bonus | 20:26 |
| guitarzan | right | 20:27 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: that would help DuncanT quite a bit I think | 20:27 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: honestly I thought this would be much more involved than this | 20:27 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:27 |
| guitarzan | "in flight" either means still sitting in the rabbit queue, which is fine, those can wait, or in the middle of an rpc call in the manager | 20:27 |
| guitarzan | I did too | 20:27 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: for me "in flight" means in the middle of an rpc call | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell sc driver iscsi multipath enhancement https://review.openstack.org/156742 | 20:28 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: in the queue now that I thought about it is fine | 20:28 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: sure, I just mean it hasn't necessarily been picked up yet | 20:28 |
| guitarzan | right | 20:28 |
| guitarzan | if it's a call, sorry, it might timeout | 20:28 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: yeah... cool stuff | 20:28 |
| guitarzan | depending on how you do the restart | 20:28 |
| guitarzan | I'm guessing to really use this you'll have to nuke a pidfile too, so you can start another cinder-volume | 20:28 |
| jgriffith | better than the non-deterministic option we have currently :) | 20:28 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: I like it, there's a ton of work that can go into the startup side IMO | 20:29 |
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| guitarzan | yeah, we'll probably end up using something like this one way or the other | 20:30 |
| guitarzan | we meaning rax | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: like for example; "I just want to move Cinder services off of this node" keep the backend and volumes, bring up Cinder on another node and auto import all the backend info | 20:30 |
| guitarzan | hmm | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: you should write a BP for this and put it up | 20:30 |
| smcginnis | guitarzan: I agree, I like the idea. | 20:31 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: will do, I had to make sure it was reasonably doable | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: my start up idea might prove to be a stretch, but I think it's pretty possible | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: guess it becomes more of whether it's useful | 20:31 |
| guitarzan | hard to say if keeping the old "host" value is worth much | 20:31 |
| guitarzan | seems easier to stand up a new host and do a db update :) | 20:32 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: wel, I wouldn't keep the old "host" value per-say | 20:32 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: It would at least be a step in the direction of being able to do what you described. | 20:32 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: I'd auto-migrate existing volumes to the "new" host | 20:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 | 20:32 |
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| guitarzan | jgriffith: gotcha, that sounds like a pretty big operation | 20:32 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: :) | 20:32 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: nahh... just for v in volumes: s/old_host/new_host/ | 20:33 |
| guitarzan | hah! | 20:33 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:33 |
| jgriffith | xyang: ping | 20:34 |
| xyang | jgriffith: hi | 20:34 |
| jgriffith | xyang: hey there | 20:34 |
| jgriffith | xyang: since you've had the pleasure of working the LVM code a bit recently :) | 20:34 |
| jgriffith | xyang: wanted to get your thoughts on something I'm looking at | 20:35 |
| xyang | jgriffith: sure. hope I didn't break anything:) | 20:35 |
| jgriffith | xyang: I've been trying to track down this crazy long running lvs/vgs problem | 20:35 |
| jgriffith | xyang: haha.. no you didn't | 20:35 |
| jgriffith | xyang: so if you're not familiar, there's places in the gate tests where an LVS or VGS command can take up to 2 minutes or more to return | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | xyang: I've made some improvements to things that seem like they "help" | 20:36 |
| xyang | jgriffith: do you have any patch for those or still looking? | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | but there's still at least one or two of these hit on just about every tempest run | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | xyang: no... but here's something I thought of this morning | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | xyang: we do an awful lot of lvm calls right now | 20:37 |
| xyang | jgriffith: what command specifically? or just in general | 20:37 |
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| jgriffith | xyang: between the periodic stats update (lvs, vgs, lvdisplay) | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | and delete | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | which does an lvs every time | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | to see if the voume exists | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | and then another one to get info about it | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | it's sort of messy | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | I'm wondering about caching the stats data | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | it may not help with the problem at all.. but just something I'm considering as a general improvement | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed openstack/cinder: Add 3PAR extra specs schema into volume stats https://review.openstack.org/147005 | 20:38 |
| xyang | I haven't noticed problem with stats update, I did run into problem with delete | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | xyang: well.. yeah, it always shows up on delete (always) | 20:39 |
| jgriffith | but I was wondering.... | 20:39 |
| jgriffith | what happens when a periodic stats update goes out... | 20:39 |
| jgriffith | and while it's in progress... we do a delete on the same LV it's reading? | 20:39 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: giving up on us eh :) | 20:40 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: don't blame ya | 20:40 |
| gary-smith | jgriffith: how so? | 20:40 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: oh... never mind :) | 20:40 |
| gary-smith | jgriffith: I was just simplifying and rebasing my change. It now looks closer to your gist | 20:40 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: that's something different | 20:40 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: yeah, actually since everybody checked out on that maybe we should just go with what you have | 20:41 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: did you get it on infra? i can't reproduce errors like (https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1366125) on vms | 20:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1366125 in Cinder "LVM hang in volume creation" [High,Confirmed] | 20:41 |
| gary-smith | jgriffith: I'd be all for that :-) | 20:41 |
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| gary-smith | jgriffith: and iterate/improve on it in K | 20:41 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: You can look at any dsvm-full run out of the gate | 20:41 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: search on "seconds to get logical volume info" | 20:42 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: might be the way to go | 20:42 |
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| jgriffith | gary-smith: seems thingee has checked out | 20:42 |
| gary-smith | jgriffith: in all fairness, the bp and spec were already approved | 20:43 |
| gary-smith | jgriffith: don't know why we can't just add categories and other ideas, once baked, into L | 20:44 |
| xyang | jgriffith: is this bug 1366125 the same problem you are describing | 20:44 |
| openstack | bug 1366125 in Cinder "LVM hang in volume creation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366125 | 20:44 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: i'm trying to find | 20:44 |
| xyang | the logs disappeared | 20:45 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: hold on, I'll show you a logstash for it | 20:45 |
| e0ne | xyang, jgriffith: afaik, it is related to lvm and device-mapper versions | 20:45 |
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| jgriffith | e0ne: http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJcInNlY29uZHMgdG8gZ2V0IGxvZ2ljYWwgdm9sdW1lIGluZm9cIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiNjA0ODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQyNDIwNTk1MTM1N30= | 20:46 |
| jgriffith | pop any of those and check in c-vol log | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed openstack/cinder: Add 3PAR extra specs schema into volume stats https://review.openstack.org/147005 | 20:46 |
| jgriffith | gary-smith: I pulled that -2 on that, I'll do a proper review here when I get some cycles | 20:47 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: thanks. looks like it related to concurrency locks in lvm | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell sc driver iscsi multipath enhancement https://review.openstack.org/156742 | 20:50 |
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| gary-smith | jgriffith: excellent. Thanks! | 20:53 |
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| jgriffith | e0ne: xyang interesting, so I've got it to a point where I am not seeing the lvs issues | 20:56 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: xyang now to see if I can get creative on the vgs | 20:56 |
| jgriffith | Ohhhhh! | 20:57 |
| jgriffith | hmmm... there's a whole second code path in there :( | 20:57 |
| e0ne | what are you talking about? | 20:58 |
| xyang | jgriffith: what are you looking? | 20:58 |
| jgriffith | xyang: e0ne so this is what I'm trying to solve: | 20:58 |
| jgriffith | http://paste.openstack.org/show/176272/ | 20:58 |
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| jgriffith | xyang: e0ne look at the completion times on those LVM calls.... | 20:59 |
| jgriffith | xyang: e0ne my theory is that "one" of the calls is blocking the others | 20:59 |
| jgriffith | xyang: e0ne so the trick is to figure out which one and exactly *why* it's locking up | 21:00 |
| jgriffith | xyang: e0ne I have an strace, but afraid I don't see what the problem might be: http://goo.gl/kRng2N | 21:00 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: does it hangs after operations with snapshots? | 21:00 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: my theory is that "yes" it's def snapshot related | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: specifically snapshot removal | 21:01 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: give me 2 minutes, i'll find all related info that i have | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: oh.. you've already looked at this? | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | excellent | 21:01 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: it make me crazy time to time:( | 21:02 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: it's been making me crazy for various things like this for almost 2 years now :) | 21:02 |
| xyang | e0ne: does it have to do with the version thing you mentioned earlier | 21:02 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: we fixed it in ubuntu by updating lvm2 package | 21:03 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: there was issue in debian | 21:03 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, xyang: but i'm not 100% sure that it is root cause | 21:04 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: well, certainly easy for me to test that theory | 21:04 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: I can repro this 100% of the time now | 21:04 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: on vm or hardware node? | 21:04 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: and I wouldn't be surprised, in the past I've found upgrading LVM version fixes everything | 21:05 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: OpenStack Instance | 21:05 |
| jgriffith | 14.04 | 21:05 |
| e0ne | hm... i've tos these errore only on a hardware compute+cinder lvm nodes | 21:05 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: I'd expect them to show up either way | 21:06 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: please, take a look on https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1413647, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1413647 and relarted bugs | 21:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1413647 in Mirantis OpenStack " error during create-nested-snapshots-and-attach-volume rally light test" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pavel Boldin (pboldin) | 21:06 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: here is reference to debian that was our case https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1369524/comments/24 | 21:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369524 in Mirantis OpenStack 6.0.x "lvremove can't delete volume with --force on Ubuntu" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Dmitry Burmistrov (dburmistrov) | 21:06 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: for now, we've got such issue with cenos | 21:08 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: very helpful | 21:08 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: I'm looking to see if anybody has backported 14.10 or upcoming 15.04 versions of LVM to Trusty to test | 21:09 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: you're welcome. | 21:09 |
| jgriffith | otherwise I guess I'll build it from source | 21:09 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: i can provice you lvm2 package from 15.04 backported to 14.04 | 21:10 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: i'm sorry, for 12.04 only | 21:10 |
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| jgriffith | e0ne: yeah, looking at your notes I saw that you're 12.04 | 21:10 |
| e0ne | yes | 21:11 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: BTW, I already have a backport out there I tell everybody to use :) | 21:11 |
| jgriffith | on 12.04 | 21:11 |
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| e0ne | :) | 21:11 |
| jgriffith | that also adds thin support :) | 21:11 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: sadly it looks like Utopic uses the same version | 21:11 |
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| e0ne | we backported lvm2 from vivid(15.04) | 21:13 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: yeah, looks like that's the only option for a newer version | 21:14 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: need to go offline. bb tomorrow | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Kaufer proposed openstack/cinder: Replication status periodic task optimization https://review.openstack.org/154673 | 21:42 |
| smcginnis | anteaya: You around? | 21:43 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: ping | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Gary W. Smith proposed openstack/cinder: Add 3PAR extra specs schema into volume stats https://review.openstack.org/147005 | 22:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Snapshot and volume objects https://review.openstack.org/133566 | 22:16 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: yo | 22:30 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hey! Just curious - have you tried using anything like squid or similar to speed up you CI stacking process? | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yes as a matter of fact :) | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I have an apt-proxy that I plug in to | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I'm not sure how much of a win it is | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: what I REALLY need is a pypi mirror | 22:32 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Not that noticable/ | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: it was like a few minutes... seems most of my cycles during stack.sh are spent on clones | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: followed by pip installs | 22:33 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I'm seeing about 11 minutes or so for stacking. Would be great to cut that down and not have to pull down so much every single time. | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I can look up what I used for my apt-cache | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: actually... IIRC it's just using the standard apt-cache pkg | 22:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Anything you can share would be great. Definitely low priority, but looking for was to optimize. | 22:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Ah, OK. | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: but there's better docs out there.... | 22:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Haven't looked at that at all. Will have to do some reading. | 22:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks for the pointers. I can at least start there and google the rest. | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: have a look at this one; seems pretty close to what I did | 22:35 |
| jgriffith | http://www.tecmint.com/apt-cache-server-in-ubuntu/ | 22:35 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Cool, thanks. Doesn't look horrible. | 22:35 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: nahh.. it's pretty easy, which is why I did it :) | 22:36 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I'm all for the easy wins. | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: we have an internal mirror for precise, but I didn't want to mess with that | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: there's also a cool web-ui for that ng pkg | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: shows hit/miss stats and what was added | 22:36 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: What?! It's actually managable? :) | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: hehe | 22:37 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: if you come up with a way to cache pip without a full blown mirror lemme know :) | 22:46 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Will do. | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: FWIW, I also looked at a hybrid of node-pool | 22:47 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: That is interesting as well. | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: pre-build the instance nightly... then do a ./unstack.sh and save it | 22:47 |
| anish | jgriffith: re DocImpact, I know the bugs are automated, should I be making a fix or is that automated as well ? | 22:47 |
| anish | (#openstack-manuals is a ghosttown) | 22:47 |
| smcginnis | But for me at least I wonder at what point it is worth just switching over to the full Jenkins setup. | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | anish: so the tag is to point it out to the docs folks | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | anish: but they're always more than happy to get submissions | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | anish: annegentle is the doc guru and can help you with anything on that front | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | anish: or at least point you in the right direction (even if that's back to me) :) | 22:48 |
| anish | aite, sounds good | 22:49 |
| akerr_ | we actually started with the full jenkins/zuul/nodepool setup, and we're looking at adding all sorts of caches now. too many of our runs fail because xyz.com is down when devstack is setting up | 22:49 |
| anish | jgriffith: also semi-related question | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | akerr_: hurumph | 22:50 |
| akerr_ | turns out the internet isn't reliable :) | 22:50 |
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| jgriffith | akerr_: luckily I don't see that much | 22:50 |
| annegentle | anish: #openstack-doc for questions -- and definitely you should assign yourself to the doc bug created with DocImpact | 22:50 |
| anish | is there any code responsible for say enabling targetcli service, or is this left up to packaging/deployer | 22:50 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Have you seen this? "pip2pi builds a PyPI-compatible package repository from pip requirements" | 22:50 |
| anish | * sorry, meant openstack-doc, not openstack-manuals | 22:50 |
| annegentle | anish: it's not a ghost town usually though | 22:51 |
| akerr_ | jgriffith: we're spinning hundreds of test nodes a day though. We also use the same system for internal CI before we even release the code upstream | 22:51 |
| anish | yeah, noticed. could not get any responses there | 22:51 |
| jgriffith | anish: I think packaging effort, but not completely sure I'm thinking the same thing you're asking :) | 22:51 |
| anish | what I mean is | 22:51 |
| jgriffith | akerr_: Ahhh! Yeah, I'm not running at that scale | 22:51 |
| anish | for eg devstack starts targetcli service at the end of installation | 22:51 |
| Swanson | pip2pi? | 22:51 |
| jgriffith | akerr_: I think last I looked my busy days are like 30 or so | 22:52 |
| anish | when using proper cinder, who does this, and shoudl I add the chiscsi service in there as well | 22:52 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: oh? | 22:52 |
| akerr_ | jgriffith: we're about to hit slave #40,000 | 22:52 |
| smcginnis | I'm thinking some combination of pip2pi and PIP_DOWNLOAD_CACHE. | 22:52 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: so the Download cache I *thought* was only local to that system? | 22:54 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: thanks for the pointer, not sure why I glossed over that before | 22:54 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: seems it would be trivial to run a nightly that pulls global requirements and sets everything up | 22:54 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah. I stage an image, so thinking I would get at least some of it cached ahead of time. | 22:54 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah, I was doing that for a while... but something changed (can't remember what) that broke it | 22:55 |
| jgriffith | and I'm lazy :) | 22:55 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: +1 :) | 22:55 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: it's the whole 'fried vs baked' debate | 22:55 |
| smcginnis | Hmm... pip2pi along with pypicache? | 22:56 |
| smcginnis | https://pypicache.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 22:56 |
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| smcginnis | Sounds good at least. | 22:56 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: you should set it up, work out all the bugs and share it with everybody :) | 22:57 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: :) | 22:57 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I might end up doing that. | 22:57 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: If I do get it working I will share what I find. | 22:57 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: AWESOME!!! | 22:59 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: tx for the tip | 22:59 |
| Swanson | Sure thing. | 23:00 |
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| anteaya | smcginnis: how can I help? | 23:21 |
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