Tuesday, 2015-04-14

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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Nested Quota Driver  https://review.openstack.org/17314100:51
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openstackgerritLiu Xinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei driver fix problems under multipath  https://review.openstack.org/15076702:24
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openstackgerritLiu Xinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Fix the ranges in RestURL with Huawei drivers  https://review.openstack.org/17315703:12
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openstackgerritLiu Xinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei driver fix problems under multipath  https://review.openstack.org/15076703:32
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openstackgerritLiu Xinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Fix the ranges in RestURL with Huawei drivers  https://review.openstack.org/17315703:34
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Fix a problem with FAST support in VMAX driver  https://review.openstack.org/17000003:50
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openstackgerritJeegn Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Remove redundant code from VNX Cinder Driver  https://review.openstack.org/17318306:25
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openstackgerritAbhijeet Malawade proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to return request_id of last request  https://review.openstack.org/17319907:37
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winston-de0ne_: ping08:01
winston-de0ne_: around?08:02
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e0newinston-d: hi08:08
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winston-de0ne: want to do a quick check with you about block device driver :cinder/volume/drivers/block_device.py08:11
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e0newinston-d: not sure that i could help you but i'll try08:13
winston-de0ne: it was contributed by one of Mirantis dev.08:15
winston-de0ne: i am wondering if any of your customer or even within your lab, have a relatively large scale deployment of this driver.08:15
e0newinston-d: i'll ask our guys08:16
e0newinston-d: afaik, we did some performance tests with this driver few months ago08:17
winston-de0ne: great, thx.08:18
winston-de0ne: any info you can share is appreciated08:18
e0newinston-d: np. i ping you once i'll have any update08:19
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winston-de0ne: need to get away from desk, feel free to leave me message, will check later.08:21
winston-de0ne: thank you again for the help!08:22
e0newinston-d: ok. i'll chat you later today08:22
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deepakcse0ne, is there a way to restore a table (once deleted) in a DB, cinder-manage db sync didn't help08:27
DuncanTdeepakcs: You're probably going to have to fix it up by hand if db sync doesn't fix it08:27
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e0nedeepakcs: did you try to 'cinder-manage db sync prev_version && cinder-manage db sync'?08:28
DuncanT'describe table' on a devstack install will give you the necessary create statement I think08:29
e0neDuncanT, deepakcs: db sync won't help if you change schema manually, you need to downgrade to prev revision first08:29
e0neafter that db sync should work08:30
DuncanTe0ne: That will only fix table(s) added by the last migration, right?08:30
DuncanTe0ne: If it's a different table, you might need to go back lots of revisions, and our downgrades are lossy....08:31
deepakcse0ne, i think DuncanT is right, if i remove say encryption table, just going back to prev_revision may not help ?08:32
deepakcse0ne, so Q being, is there a way to force db sync to start from rev 0 ( i tried passing 0 and other stuff, it didn't work)08:32
deepakcse0ne, in fact db sync help didn't say prev_revision as a valid arg, is it ?08:32
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deepakcsDuncanT, just curious, what u mean by "downgrades are lossy"08:33
DuncanTdeepakcs: I mean that if you downgrade, you lose some info about existing volumes, potentially making them unusable08:35
deepakcsDuncanT, desc table only gives the fields of the table (not the create statement) that too if the table is present08:35
e0neDuncanT: i think you're right. it's sounds reasonable08:35
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deepakcsDuncanT, e0ne how do i know which version my DB/tables are at ? (assuming i or someone else did db sync 30, is there a way to know from the DB itself?)08:40
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DuncanTdeepakcs: There's a version table08:55
deepakcsDuncanT, got it, migrate_version, thanks08:56
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kaisers1DuncanT: ping09:49
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DuncanTkaisers1: Hi10:18
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kaisers1DuncanT: Hi! Can you check / triage a bug ticket?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/143860310:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438603 in Cinder "Priviledged user permissions issue in Quobyte volumes" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Silvan Kaiser (2-silvan)10:22
DuncanTLooking now10:22
kaisers1DuncanT: thnks10:22
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kaisers1DuncanT: Fix has one +2 so far10:22
DuncanTkaisers1: I meant to get back to you on this. I'm not sure the bug makes sense10:24
kaisers1DuncanT: oh, ok?10:25
DuncanTThe user used to call nova is a keystone user10:25
DuncanTThat shouldn't affect file permissions at all10:25
DuncanTThe nova user .v. the cinder process user is the only thing that affects the file permissions10:27
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kaisers1In that case i did not correctly grasp the issue itself.10:31
kaisers1Weird thing is the fix does work10:31
DuncanTYes, but the thing the fix is changing is nothing to do with the privileged user stuff10:37
DuncanTTo put it another way, without your fix applied, if you remove the privileged user entry from cinder.conf, does everything work?10:38
DuncanTI don't think it will10:38
kaisers1hmm, i did use changed policies earlier to access the nova api10:38
kaisers1afaicr there where no such issues but i'd have to check back on that10:39
DuncanTSo I think with an open policy on nova and no priv user setting, I think your driver will be broken for secure mode10:39
DuncanTYour bug is wiht secure mode, not priv user10:39
kaisers1I'll check into this and update the bug ticket accordingly10:40
kaisers1Thanks for the feedback!10:43
DuncanTLet me know when I should remove the -210:43
kaisers1will do10:43
DuncanTI think that some config changes (running cinder & nova under the same uid) should enable you to work with secure mode10:44
kaisers1DuncanT: ok10:45
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jbernardhemna: heay13:43
jbernardhemna: heya, even13:43
jbernardhemna: oh, i think that patch might be just what im looking for13:44
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jbernardhemna: sweet, ill give it a try13:44
jbernardhemna: thanks man13:44
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deepakcse0ne, ping14:35
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deepakcsAs part of creating new table in cinder DB, I also need to implement the _get, _delete etc APIs in cinder/db/api.py and its corresponding functions in cinder/db/sqlalchemy/api.py , is this correct ?14:38
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Cinder Volume replication V2  https://review.openstack.org/15564414:43
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DuncanTdeepakcs: Yes14:46
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deepakcsDuncanT, ok, that was missed in the -dev email i sent asking the steps to do when creating a new DB14:47
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deepakcsDuncanT, also i don't think i understood your point on the "objects fixup" - can you clarify pls ?14:48
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li_zhangHi everyone, I saw some projects like nova/ironic have opened specs for liberty, so what's the plan for cinder? thanks14:56
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DuncanTdeepakcs: I'm in a meeting now, I'll maybe reply to that on the mailing list later, if that is ok?14:59
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deepakcsDuncanT, sure, np, i may see it today or tomorrow (its dinner time here)15:01
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (scheduler)  https://review.openstack.org/17336815:05
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jungleboyjthingee: Any ETA on Cinderclient 1.1.1 ?  When were you hoping to spin that?15:09
li_zhangthingee: I saw some projects like nova/ironic have opened specs for liberty, so what's the plan for cinder? thanks~15:12
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eharneyjungleboyj: 1.1.1?15:13
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Kilo Consistency Group CLI update  https://review.openstack.org/14456715:21
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Create Consistency Group from CG Snapshot CLI  https://review.openstack.org/14879015:27
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder  https://review.openstack.org/11210115:29
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thingeeli_zhang: hasn't been decided yet. maybe tomorrow's meeting15:31
thingeejungleboyj: not sure we can do a release yet?15:32
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thingeeli_zhang: here's the last time we spoke about things http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-03-18-16.00.log.html#l-33715:33
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jungleboyjthingee: Still hoping to get version discovery in?15:33
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thingeeli_zhang: I think things are starting to slow down to where we can change focus, but I was traveling all yesterday so I need to catch up on the weekend and yesterday15:34
thingeejungleboyj: it's not going to make kilo. too late. I tried bringing it up15:34
xyang1thingee: jungleboyj , I have a few patches in cinderclient that I'd like to be in the next release15:34
thingeebut people can upgrade and won't have problems15:34
thingeewe just won't be doing a version bump in kilo15:35
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thingeejungleboyj: shouldn't have problems with whatever contains version discovery. not sure what other changes is going to leak in15:36
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jungleboyjthingee: Ok.15:36
jungleboyjthingee: So what else are we hoping to get into 1.1.1?15:37
e0nethingee: it means, that all openstack distros maintainers won't update python-cinderclient for Kilo because newer version won't be corresponding to Kilo global reqs:(15:37
thingeejungleboyj: not sure if you've been following on the ML from ttx's about doing client/library releases15:37
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thingeejungleboyj: I dunno15:37
thingeee0ne: yes15:37
thingeee0ne: out of my control though15:38
thingeee0ne: also I think most people install clients on their laptop via pip.15:38
jungleboyjthingee: I haven't been following that closely.15:38
e0nethingee: i hope they do it15:39
thingeejungleboyj: I recommend it before coming to me :)15:39
jungleboyjthingee: Ok.15:39
jgriffiththingee: ?15:39
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thingeejgriffith: hi15:39
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jgriffiththingee: what are you talking about RE clients and ttx?15:40
jgriffiththingee: and the comment "recommend it before coming to me"?15:40
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thingeejgriffith: check the back log?15:40
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jgriffiththingee: ?15:41
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thingeejgriffith: I was recommended to not do a release right now. there's some thread on the ML about it as well.15:41
jgriffiththingee: I'm looking on the ML and asking "why"?15:42
jgriffiththingee: we haven't done a release in quite a while15:42
thingeejgriffith: that is true15:42
e0nejgriffith: +115:42
thingeejgriffith: no aruging against that15:42
jgriffiththingee: I'm just asking you a question?15:43
jgriffiththingee: why is release of a client being "discouraged"?15:43
jgriffiththingee: can you answer that or not?15:43
jgriffiththingee: I don't see the ML post, so I'm in the dark15:43
li_zhangthingee: That's fine, i just want to make sure i don't miss it :) thanks15:43
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mtreinishjgriffith: because everyone who's released a client during the rc period so far has broken everything15:44
thingeejgriffith: hey you mind not attacking me for a second and calm down so I can get my notes? thanks15:44
jgriffithmtreinish: thank you!15:44
mtreinishjgriffith: the most recent example is mestry: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061104.html15:44
mtreinishnot only broke the gate but also introduced a breaking cli change15:45
jgriffithSad... last update to Cinder client was the last September :(15:45
thingeejgriffith: I agree15:45
jgriffithmtreinish: got ya.. thanks!15:45
thingeemtreinish: thank you15:45
thingeejgriffith: what exact fixes are you wanting from the client?15:46
thingeeor features15:46
mtreinishjgriffith, thingee: once all the kilo branching is done (including g-r) we should be good to push new versions15:47
thingeefor critical fixes there's still a period for backports15:47
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thingeemtreinish: I'm aware of this, thanks15:47
jgriffiththingee: was just trying to understand what was up.  And going 8 months seems kinda "long"15:47
thingeeI was originally searching the the thread link15:47
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thingeejgriffith: unless there is something critical that should be released, not sure what the big deal is15:48
jgriffiththingee: ok15:48
thingeeI agree regardless things are missing in talking to some endpoints.15:48
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Update os-brick requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17340215:55
thingeejgriffith, jungleboyj: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061203.html and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060932.html15:55
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thingeewhew that took too long to find for some reason15:55
thingeejungleboyj: sorry wasn't trying to discourage you from asking me questions. was just a lengthy thread on this topic.15:57
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li_zhangthingee: We have a plan to add replication and some other capalibities (eg.thin provision) to our cinder driver, but it seems both driver capabilities and replication will have a change in Liberty, so shall we hold off this after everything has been settled down, or we can propose it at the beginning and then keep catching up with the framwork change? thanks16:02
thingeeli_zhang: I recommend working jgriffith and make sure it fits with the replication changes he's proposing.16:03
* thingee digs up spec16:03
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thingeeli_zhang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155644/16:03
thingeeli_zhang: I recommend helping with these current proposals. without them, there is no foundation to start extending them16:05
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li_zhangthingee: yes we have been watching on this.16:06
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thingeehemna, jgriffith: where did we last stand on capabilities? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150511/16:06
thingeeif I remember correctly jgriffith was fine with something much simpler without the documentation16:07
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thingeeand by without documentation I mean the backend not pushing up information about certain backend capabilities16:07
hemnathingee, we need to hash it out in Vancouver16:07
hemnaI'd like to get closure on it16:07
jgriffithhemna: +116:08
jgriffiththingee: hemna not writing a novel in the response json would be a descent start IMO16:08
hemnaI also want to reset the approach to fetching the supported driver dictionary for the supported extra specs16:08
hemnaI don't think they should be part of the capabilities reported in get_volume_stats16:09
jgriffithhemna: Yayyyy!!!!!16:09
hemnaI think we should have a new driver api that is called when requested.16:09
jgriffithhemna: I'm very happy to hear that as you can probably imagine :)16:09
hemnawell that was my original design :P16:09
thingeethat sounds fine to me, either way something is going to have this information though16:09
jgriffithhemna: that was one of my biggest sticking points if you recall16:10
hemnaso I'd like to go back to that.16:10
jgriffithhemna: I'd still recommend an extension going directly to the driver for extra-specs doc type stuff16:10
jgriffithhemna: but that might be cra/cra16:10
thingeehemna: I don't think that was your original idea. You had a lot of this information in the volume stats16:10
thingeelike enum's16:11
hemnacapabilities being reported are what the array and driver supports right now, but the dictionary is the list of possible extra specs that it supports, which most likely might be a superset of the reported capabilities right now.16:11
hemnathingee, no it was my original idea16:11
jgriffithhemna: thingee so just a level set....16:11
hemnathingee, winston said I couldn't do it that way and wanted me to put it in the get_volume_stats16:11
thingeecan you show me the spec? I can show you a spec where the original proposal from HP had it in volume stats16:11
hemnait's not what I wanted originally16:11
thingeegot it16:11
jgriffithhemna: thingee can we propose standarizing capability reporting16:11
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hemnathingee, our original spec had it this way16:11
thingeejgriffith: yes, my spec will just be the agreement on standards16:12
jgriffithhemna: thingee and treating the supported extra-specs that are NOT handled by scheduler as a seperate topic?16:12
thingeejgriffith: not this extra stuff16:12
thingeejgriffith: +116:12
hemnathen winston -1'd it and we tried to accommodate, and adjusted the latest spec.16:12
jgriffithhemna: yeah, I remember you mentioning that.. and the objections from winston-d16:12
jgriffithhemna: still need to understand that16:12
jgriffithand what I might be missing there16:12
hemnaso that's why I'd like to hash it out between us in Vancouver16:12
jgriffithseems kinda odd, unless the proposal is to push that up into the scheduler16:12
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jgriffithhemna: Yeah, I'd def agree with that16:13
hemnaI think he wanted it in the existing scheduler call16:13
hemnaanyways, I'd like to get this ironed out and implemented for L16:13
jgriffithhemna: just want to have some outlines/proposals in line prior so we can communicate effectively16:13
winston-dhemna: I didn't say you can't do it via sepaerate api, what I said is, what you need was already part of scheduler_stats extension16:14
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hemnawinston-d, ok anyway, I'd like it as part of a separate API :)16:14
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winston-dby the time everything you need was driver capabilites, which is intended to be consumed by scheduler.16:15
hemnano need to poop a big dictionary into the capabilties being reported.16:15
jgriffithwinston-d: so I would agree with your statement about "if it's capabilities" for sure16:15
winston-dso separate driver api or not, scheduler must have a copy of it.16:15
hemnabut these aren't capabilities16:15
jgriffithhemna: no need to do it anywhere IMO :)16:15
jungleboyjthingee: Sorry, was pulled into a meeting.  Let me look at the mailing thread and try to understand where things are at.16:16
hemnathese are the possible list of supported extra specs that can be put into a volume type.16:16
jgriffithanyway, should be a good topic in Vancouver :)16:16
jgriffithhemna: but you need to clarify16:16
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hemnajgriffith, do you happen to have unit tests for the cinder.utils.retry ?16:16
jgriffithhemna: I think what winston-d is pointing out is what I pointed out in thingee 's spec16:16
hemnajgriffith, I'm pulling it into os-brick16:16
jgriffiththere are capability keys, and there are vendor unique scoped keys16:16
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jgriffithhemna: did you look in cinder/tests/* ?16:17
jgriffithhemna: if it isn't there i don't have it :)16:17
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thingeejgriffith: what was that exactly that winston-d pointed out in the spec?16:17
hemnabriefly, did a grep16:17
winston-dhemna: yeah, i agreee that for things like patterns/definition of driver only key/values, scheduler has nothing to do with them, and they shouldn't be in volume_stats16:17
jgriffithhemna: and given it's part of an external lib it should be unit tested "there"16:17
hemnajgriffith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168506/9/os_brick/initiator/linuxscsi.py16:18
hemnaI was going to replace the loopingCall crap with the retry mechanism16:18
jgriffithhemna: cinder/tests/test_utils.py16:18
hemnait's impossible to not use self.XXX with loopingcall.  as it doesn't support local vars16:18
jgriffithtest_no_retyr_required and test_wrong_exception_no_retry16:18
hemnajgriffith, ok thanks16:18
winston-de0ne: yeah, just want to do a quick check with you, see if you have already got something about block device driver.16:20
thingeehemna, jgriffith: I didn't understand the discussion. jgriffith, what was it that winston-d pointed out in the spec that you were pointing out as well?16:21
e0newinston-d: unfortunatly, i have not update yet:(. we tested it at small test env in autumn and no results are available. i try to reach driver's author  for more details16:21
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jgriffiththingee: the fact that extra-spec keys can be both capabilities as well as vendor-unique16:22
jgriffiththingee: ie scoped keys that are ignored by the scheduler16:23
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jgriffiththingee: vs bare keys which are interpretted as capabilities for filtering16:23
jungleboyjthingee: So, am I reading this right that we cannot do a python-cinderclient release for Kilo at this point?16:23
winston-dthingee: and capablities (to-be-consumed by scheduler) is already part of volume_stats16:23
jgriffithwinston-d: +116:23
thingeejungleboyj: right16:23
jgriffithsorry... forgot that part :)16:23
jungleboyjthingee: Wow, that would have been really nice to know before it was too late.16:23
jgriffithjungleboyj: so the good thing is if we push it to PyPi folks can upgrade16:24
jgriffithjungleboyj: in other words since client is decoupled from the release it's not as huge a deal16:24
thingeejgriffith: +116:24
jungleboyjjgriffith: +116:25
jgriffithwreaks havoc with package maintainers though16:25
winston-dhowever, vendor-specific bits shouldn't be part of volume_stats, and according to hemna, some drivers have much more of that than capabilities.16:25
jungleboyjYeah, it would be version 1.1.2 then.  Right?16:25
jgriffithwinston-d: yeah.. which I'm kinda "mixed" about that whole thing... but I'm saving my energy for Vancouver :)16:25
hemnawell, what I want as a separate API is simply the entire possible list of keys, and metadata (type, possible enum values, etc) for the keys that can be put into a volume type16:26
jgriffithhemna: :)16:26
hemnathose most likely will be a superset of whats reported as capabilities at the time get_volume_stats is called.16:26
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* jgriffith is still not going to dive deep into this right now ;)16:26
hemnaas some arrays will have licenses that don't allow certain capabilties at that time, but might be changed in the future (calls of get_volume_stats)16:26
thingeejgriffith: I think I might have to leave someone else to do this part. I know you did an explanation in a paste, but I just can't wrap my head around this for some reason :(16:26
winston-dbut i thought everything hemna wanted was capabilities (and their explanations), so I suggested using volume_stats and thus scheduler_stats api extension16:27
hemnabut I want the admin to be able to see the entire list of possible keys they can put into a volume type.16:27
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jungleboyjthingee: This, however, says that we could do 1.1.2 if necessary:  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061076.html16:27
thingeejungleboyj: yeup16:27
jgriffiththingee: that's cool... we can all work on it together16:27
hemnawinston-d, well yes and no.16:27
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hemnaexcept the capabilities being reported in the current call, might and will change over time.16:27
hemnadue to changes on the backend (array)16:28
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jgriffithjungleboyj: hmm.. that's an important little detail :)16:28
jgriffithjungleboyj: of course it'll really suck if it breaks everyting :)16:28
hemnaI think that point was kinda lost in our discussions.16:28
jungleboyjjgriffith: Yeah, so, the question is if we want to do that.16:28
jungleboyjjgriffith: Maybe the answer is 'no' given that concern.16:29
thingeejgriffith: not sure I feel comfortable with the version discovery stuff going in without gate time.16:29
winston-dhemna: yeah, but this time we can do a much better job now that we see things more clearly16:29
thingeejgriffith: a variety of people have tested it, but eh, scary16:29
jgriffiththingee: I would agree, but maybe that stuff should be reverted out16:29
jungleboyjjgriffith: At this point I guess it is a moot point as we only got legal approval for 1.1.1 .  :-)16:29
thingeejgriffith: yea16:29
thingeejgriffith: well it hasn't been merged yet16:30
jgriffiththingee: oh.. then no worries :)16:30
thingeejgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145613/16:30
winston-de0ne: thx, what I am most interested about block device driver is its performance and how it behaves in real deployment (reliability)16:30
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jgriffithwinston-d: check the CI... oh, yeah that's right :)16:31
e0newinston-d: our performance tests results were similar to lvm backend, but nobody has results data:(16:32
winston-de0ne:the driver itself hasn't been really updated much, which might imply not that many people actually use it16:32
e0newinston-d: agree16:32
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winston-de0ne: which worries me a bit16:32
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thingeejgriffith: https://gist.github.com/j-griffith/fd27297d79e0bb2c3e3d16:33
winston-de0ne: we have internal Hadoop team looking to use it so I wanted to check with authors (you guys)16:33
e0newinston-d: i can ping author by e-mail and cc you, if you want16:34
winston-de0ne: does Sahara use this driver?16:34
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e0neSergeyLukjanov: ping ^^16:34
winston-de0ne: sure, that'll be nice if you can help find the right person to allow me for some questions.16:35
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thingeejgriffith, jungleboyj: so for client release, does it make sense to review things for anything potentially scary to go out?16:38
thingeerather things already merged that would be scary to go out16:39
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jgriffiththingee: maybe16:41
jgriffithalthough, not sure how you determine that16:41
jgriffithwhat's scary to some isn't scary to others :)16:41
thingeejgriffith: yeah, I guess git log and just read through :(16:41
thingeejgriffith: it's my job to be a bit paranoid.16:41
jgriffiththingee: yeah... that could be quite the undertaking16:41
jgriffiththingee: honestly we should be able to do local test runs of what's in master as of now16:42
thingeethat's why I'm not sure it's a good idea for us to try to push something out anyways..unless there is something specific people wanted.16:42
jgriffiththingee: eliminate a good chunk of doubt right off the top IMO16:42
thingeethat we can't live without. So far people just seem to be sad because there hasn't been a push for the sake of an update going out16:42
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jgriffithnot a bunhc... help on reset-stae, global req update (could be important)16:43
jgriffithfix volume_transfer16:43
jgriffithpool support16:44
jgriffiththat will piss some folks off16:44
thingeebetter errors messages16:44
thingeeinstead of http status codes16:44
jgriffithsession vs 3'rd party16:44
thingeethat might piss people off16:45
thingeere: error messages16:45
jgriffitha lot of "fluff" but a number of solid things as well16:45
thingeejgriffith: I know ttx is planning a stable branch for cinderclient tomorrow, so we'll need to act fast16:46
jgriffithbranch for cinderclient?16:47
jgriffithhmm... that's new, I don't know anything about that sort of thing16:47
thingeemaybe he meant tag16:48
jgriffithahh... tag16:48
jgriffithbut that's release to pypi usually16:48
jgriffiththingee: tag and release16:48
thingeehmm, let me see if I can still get clarification16:48
jgriffithanyway, I haven't been involved in any of the discussions, and not missing anything in the client so I'm "meh"16:48
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (scheduler)  https://review.openstack.org/17336816:49
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jgriffithhemna: winston-d jungleboyj What do you think:16:49
jgriffith2015-04-14 16:29:24.872 INFO cinder.volume.manager [req-f01dbeec-c71e-4ec3-a42b-77ff978f645b demo] [volume-556c450d-5b47-4cfa-bb98-95a41e7f32be] Some log message: blah blah blah16:49
jgriffithreq-id, tenant/project, volume-name in log messages16:49
thingeeblah blah blah isn't help but the rest is :D16:50
* thingee ducks16:50
jgriffithworking on the first batch of changes, should have a review up later otday16:50
jgriffiththingee: LOL16:50
rhe00blah blah blah might be as helpful as 40916:50
jgriffiththingee: What... you don't know what "blah blah blah" means here :)16:50
hemnajgriffith, sorry wasn't following16:50
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hemnapushing cinderclient to pypi ?16:51
thingeejgriffith: might be a log message for replication16:51
jgriffithso I'll get this pushed up later, and add the change to the config in devstack to get it turned on16:51
thingeejgriffith: replication request comes in, stuff happens, blah blah blah16:51
jgriffiththingee: LOL.. that would be about right :)16:51
jgriffithbb in a bit16:53
thingeejgriffith, jungleboyj: so later in the thread sean had disagreements with there being a potential 1.1.216:53
thingeeso I think we need to limit it to very critical reasons unfortunately16:53
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thingeejungleboyj, jgriffith: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061168.html16:54
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winston-djgriffith: that's good improvement17:00
winston-djgriffith: how many times that I hve to dig into tons of log files to corrlate the request id and vol id.17:01
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nikeshthingee: hi,if you get time could you please approve these bps for liberty https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/dothill-iscsi-cinder-driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/dothill-fc-cinder-driver17:09
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device  https://review.openstack.org/16850617:33
avishay_hemna: much better, thanks! ^^17:38
hemnaavishay_, :)  welcome17:38
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avishayhemna: that self stuff just made me gag a bit ;)17:38
hemnaanyone that uses the loopingCall code has to use self.17:38
hemnafor a counter17:38
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hemnaand I didn't want to propose a patch against loopingCall17:39
hemnaretry it is!17:39
hemnaok so once these 3 brick patches land, I think it's good for a pypi push17:40
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device  https://review.openstack.org/16850617:47
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device  https://review.openstack.org/16850617:48
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device  https://review.openstack.org/16850617:54
hemnareview churn city.17:54
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smcginnishemna: Better than them just sitting out there waiting I guess. :)17:56
hemnaheh yah17:56
hemnaI'm trying to get this stuff in17:56
hemnaso I can move on17:56
smcginnishemna: Thanks for doing the updates.17:56
hemnathanks for the reviews and attention17:56
smcginnis+1 for being able to move on!17:56
hemnasmcginnis, speaking of moving on, do you happen to still have the etherpad url for the FC preso ?17:58
hemnasmcginnis, we need to iron that guy out and get the slides updated.17:58
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smcginnishemna: Yeah, that's going to come up pretty quick.17:59
smcginnishemna: Let me see if I can track that down.17:59
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device  https://review.openstack.org/16850618:05
hemnaupdated the commit message18:05
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uberjaythingee: hey there -- I was pointed in your direction to get our volume driver bp approved & targeted for Liberty: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/blockbridge-eps-driver18:06
smcginnishemna: Found this, but etherpad appears to be messed up right now: ttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-cross-company-presos18:07
smcginnisWay too difficult to track down etherpads. Guess I should have book marked it. :D18:07
hemnayah etherpad sux for finding stuff18:07
smcginnishemna: Thank you chromium history search: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack18:09
smcginnisWhichever one I try right now I get a "undefined module" error. :(18:10
smcginnisHopefully that's resolved soon.18:10
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hemnaOK so I put some names next sections.18:14
hemnaas a stab at trying to get everyone in on it18:14
hemnaI'd like to keep the handoffs to a minimum18:14
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patrickeastspeaking of FC, have any of you guys played around with hba’s that support SR-IOV to get more virtual adapters for FC dev/testing?18:17
hemnaI've messed around with vHBA stuff a bit18:17
hemnabut libvirt has major limitations18:17
hemnafrom what I've seen.18:17
hemnathere is no way to get a vHBA to get passed into a guest18:17
patrickeastoh lame18:17
patrickeastit almost kind of looks like it should work with kvm and sr-iov18:18
hemnait's the entire PCI device or you use the libvirt idea of pools, which completely sucks for CI18:18
patrickeasthmm yea18:18
patrickeastmy understanding is you create a virtual pci device and pass that in, but maybe its too good to be true18:18
hemnaI've not seen that18:19
smcginnishemna: Are you able to get in to the etherpad?18:19
patrickeasti’ve got a bunch of big initiators that can host a dozen or so DevStack test nodes, but only 2 FC cards on each… really limits how much I can scale our testing18:20
hemnasmcginnis, I was just updating the FC one18:20
hemnapatrickeast, yup18:20
smcginnisHmm. Wonder why I can't. I just get an error.18:20
hemnathat's one of the items in our FC preso18:20
patrickeasthah nice18:20
hemnathe severe limitation of NPIV support in libvirt18:20
hemnapatrickeast, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack18:20
hemnathe outline has it18:20
smcginnisI was wondering about npiv.18:20
patrickeastnpiv sounds like a dead end without sr-iov18:20
smcginnisThat's something that I think had never lived up to its potential.18:21
patrickeasti was reading through https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide/sect-Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide-SR_IOV-How_SR_IOV_Libvirt_Works.html18:21
patrickeastbut i still don’t quite understand enough to know how it would work18:21
hemnanpiv is great for creating the vHBA wwns18:21
smcginnispatrickeast: If do you try it and get it working I would love to hear about it.18:21
hemnabut libvirt needs a create a vPCI based upon the vHBA for it to work in the guest18:21
hemnawhich it can't from what I've encountered18:22
* hemna isn't familiar with SR-IOV18:22
hemnado HBA's support VT-d ?18:22
patrickeastthe only problem with sr-iov is that its only supported on the more expensive 16Gb qlogic cards… we got 8Gb ones on our test nodes :(18:23
hemnafrom what I've seen VMware can't even do this.18:23
hemnait's pci passthrough of the entire device afaik for vmware as well.18:24
smcginnishemna: That's what I'm doing for our CI.18:24
patrickeasti’ve seen the same thing18:24
hemnayah we are doing PCI passthrough18:24
smcginnisHmm. chromium no love, firefox is fine. :/18:24
hemnawe get 2 active CI tests per blade18:24
hemnawhich sucks18:24
hemnasimply doesn't scale18:25
hemnaespecially when we are looking at many different CI configs now per patch18:25
hemna(multipath enabled, disabled)18:25
patrickeasthehe yea18:25
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smcginnisUntil I get more hardware I need to serialize my FC tests. :[18:25
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hemnaI don't think most folks are testing with multipath installed and enabled.18:26
smcginnisOn the plus side, they seem to run a lot faster than the iSCSI tests for some reason.18:26
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rhe00hemna: I think most might at least install multipath. I say this because when I pushed the change to return the encrypted property in the connection_info most CIs failed the encryption test. :)18:31
hemnayah multipathd running and not enabled causes problems18:32
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hemnabut that's a user error IMHO, as it should be enabled in nova.conf/cinder.conf18:32
hemnathats bad mmmkay18:32
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rhe00how far along are you on your fixes btw?18:32
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hemnarhe00, someone else took it over according to the bug18:33
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hemnaso I backed off18:33
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rhe00hemna: ok19:02
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vilobhmm1tsekiyama : ping19:55
thingeeuberjay: check out https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver19:55
thingeeuberjay: if you haven't already19:56
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uberjayi have read through all (I think!) of the documentation about submitting a new driver. the 3rd party CI isn't running yet, but we'll be submitting the driver itself for review within the next couple days19:57
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thingeeuberjay: ok, I'll take a look at the additonal information link to learn more about this solution.19:58
uberjayI guess I'm not clear on the process around getting the bp approved/targeted.19:58
thingeeuberjay: keep in mind the third party ci will be required for code merge.19:58
rasoto_hello all, I am trying to attach an instance to an iSCSI volume and I am getting the following error19:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Command: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf iscsiadm -m node -T iqn.1992-08.com.netapp:sn.b452a178e20e11e4a50500a098569ea1:vs.9 -p --rescan19:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Exit code: 2119:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Stdout: u''19:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Stderr: u'iscsiadm: No session found.\n'19:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432]19:59
rasoto_2015-04-14 19:51:28.116 5534 ERROR oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatcher [req-f4a31db1-ddda-4c22-ae5a-3b8f51164301 ] Exception during message handling: Unexpected error while running command. Command: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf iscsiadm -m node -T iqn.1992-08.com.netapp:sn.b452a178e20e11e4a50500a098569ea1:vs.9 -p --rescan19:59
rasoto_Exit code: 2119:59
rasoto_Stdout: u''19:59
uberjayYep, i'm aware. Duncan mentioned that, but said we could essentially pipeline the review process19:59
rasoto_I was wondering if anyone has seen this and if they found a solution?19:59
jgriffiththingee: but CI can't run unti the code is merged :)19:59
jgriffithrasoto_: poor form!!!!19:59
thingeeuberjay: yeah I'll be redefining that soon. we just got done with cinder kilo rc release so please bear with me.19:59
jgriffithrasoto_: don't use past.openstack19:59
jgriffithor the pastebin of your choosing19:59
thingeejgriffith: please see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers#How_do_I_run_my_CI_to_test_all_cinder_patches_with_my_driver_not_yet_merged.3F19:59
uberjayyeah, no worries!19:59
rasoto_jgriffith: will do19:59
jgriffiththingee: well... that should be their own github probabaly don't ya think?20:00
vilobhmm1jungelboyj : ping20:01
jgriffiththingee: anyway... cool either way, you covered it20:01
thingeejgriffith: it's a wiki, you're welcome to improve20:01
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uberjaythingee: yeah, I totally have the pre-merge CI instruction bookmarked already :)20:02
jgriffiththingee: roger that20:02
rasoto_jgriffith: here is the link to the log http://paste.openstack.org/show/203917/20:03
jgriffithrasoto_: so you're not getting an iscsi session20:05
jgriffithrasoto_: could be network connectivity... or chap etc20:05
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rasoto_ok, I will take a look at that20:06
xyangjgriffith: hi, question for you regarding the incremental backup flag.  Are you okay if I just use "--incremental" and not "--incr"?  See comments here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112101/8/cinderclient/v2/shell.py20:06
jgriffithxyang: sure20:06
jgriffithxyang: in other words, I'm fine with that20:07
xyangjgriffith: ok, thanks!20:07
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rhe00thingee: do you have the link to the etherpad covering suggested Cinder topics for Vancouver?20:19
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rhe00thingee: never mind found it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions20:23
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder  https://review.openstack.org/11210120:23
thingeerhe00: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions20:23
openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/os-brick: os-brick should use oslo_log for logging  https://review.openstack.org/17350020:23
smcginnisAm I the only one seeing issues with chromium and etherpad?20:23
patrickeastsmcginnis: its borked for me too20:23
hemnasmcginnis, I'm using chromium and it's ok20:24
smcginnispatrickeast: Yay, I'm not alone! (Sorry to rejoice in you pain) :)20:24
openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder  https://review.openstack.org/11210120:24
hemnayah you guys are alone20:24
openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/os-brick: os-brick should use oslo_log for logging  https://review.openstack.org/17350020:24
smcginnispatrickeast: FF works fine for some reason.20:24
patrickeasthmm strange20:25
smcginnishemna: Any idea what version you're running. I wonder if it's my version or some plugin.20:25
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hemnaVersion 41.0.2272.76 Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit)20:25
patrickeastVersion 41.0.2272.118 (64-bit)20:26
smcginnishemna: Hm, my version exactly.20:26
patrickeastfor me20:26
patrickeastim on osx w/ chrome though20:26
hemnasmcginnis, I use incognito full time FWIW20:26
smcginnishemna: Dang! That did it.20:27
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smcginnisIt must be the new ant-Google tracking feature of etherpad. :)20:27
hemnaI'm creating the first stab at the slide deck20:27
hemnaant-Google ?20:28
smcginnishemna: Excellent!20:28
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hemnaI'm always incognito 100% of the time20:28
smcginnishemna: Ant man?? ;)20:28
smcginnishemna: I sold my soul to Google too long ago to care anymore. :)20:29
hemnaincognito gives me the illusion that I'm free.20:29
patrickeastbut without google tracking me how would i ever find stuff… i’ve become so accustomed to auto-fill everything20:29
smcginnispatrickeast: No doubt.20:29
patrickeastcant even remember the last time i’ve typed out a whole url20:29
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patrickeastOh, I had asked last week at some point, but it seemed like no one was around… anyone know what happened with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106084/ ?20:34
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smcginnisEveryone's gone incognito. :)20:41
patrickeasthaha yea, i interpret the silence as a ‘no’20:41
smcginnisSafe bet.20:41
hemnassshhh be vewwy vewwy quiet20:42
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thingeethink this might be backport worthy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155607/ for rc221:05
thingeetoo bad it didn't make it in earlier.21:06
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smcginnisI blame it on jungleboyj.21:08
jungleboyjsmcginnis: What did I do?>21:09
smcginnisjungleboyj: Everything. It's all your fault.21:09
smcginnisjungleboyj: Kidding.21:09
smcginnisjungleboyj: Just looking at the link thingee posted above.21:10
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Watch it man, I know where you live and will be in the Cities Thursday!21:10
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Nice! In town long?21:11
jungleboyjNo, leaving from MSP for a Funeral in Detroit.21:11
smcginnisjungleboyj: Oh, sorry to hear about that.21:11
smcginnisjungleboyj: If you need somewhere to park other than the airport, I'm < 10 minutes away.21:12
jungleboyjthingee: Yeah, that might be good to get into RC2.21:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Are you on the light rail?21:12
smcginnisjungleboyj: No, but depending on when in the day I could drop you off.21:13
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Wow.  You are too kind!21:13
smcginnisjungleboyj: Hey, not a problem at all.21:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis: I may take you on that some time.21:14
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Yeah, just let me know. Unfortunately the path between my house and the airport is very well worn. :)21:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis: :-)21:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Flying spirit out of Terminal 2, so it shouldn't be too hard to get in and out.21:16
smcginnisjungleboyj: Yeah, piece of cake.21:16
jungleboyjAnyway, gotta go get Logan from daycare.  Back on later.21:16
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setmasonAnybody seen a blueprint to compress the data for cinder.backup?21:27
openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Update logging to include resource tag  https://review.openstack.org/17353421:27
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vilobhmm1jgriffith : ping21:35
vilobhmm1thingee , DuncanT : ping21:36
thingeevilobhmm1: hi21:36
vilobhmm1whenevr you get time can you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/21:36
vilobhmm1thingee : ^^21:36
thingeevilobhmm1: ok21:37
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thingeevilobhmm1: I'll be likely opening for liberty specs later this week.21:40
thingeeI'll definitely have info for tomorrow's meeting. just getting organized right now after a bit of traveling21:41
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vilobhmm1sure thingee no rush take your time21:47
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hemnasmcginnis, https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rc8mk3sbpdhicl/PastPresentFutureFibreChannel.odp?dl=021:49
hemnasee if that works21:50
hemnabeen fighting Libre Office Impress21:50
hemnait hates me21:50
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jgriffithvilobhmm1: hey.. what's up?22:34
vilobhmm1jgriffith : wanted you to have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/ whenever you have time22:35
jgriffithvilobhmm1: You dog!!!  You beat me to it! :)22:35
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hemnajgriffith, FYI,22:36
hemnastarted working on the slide deck again for our preso22:36
jgriffithhemna: link no worky22:37
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hemnaman wtf is up with folks and etherpad now?22:37
hemnatry incognito (if you are using chrome, that fixed it for smcginnis )22:37
jgriffithhemna: yup, that worked22:38
hemnaheh cool22:38
hemnaanyway, I posted a dropbox url for a stab at the outline22:38
mtreinishjgriffith: you just need to clear your cache22:40
jgriffithmtreinish: yeah... I just need to do it selectively so I don't nuke the stuff I want to keep :)22:40
mtreinishI think on chrome it's shift+ctrl+r22:41
mtreinishassuming you're not a heathen and use a mac22:41
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mtreinishthat should clear the cache for the page and refresh22:41
jgriffithmtreinish: LOL.. guilty22:41
jgriffithmtreinish: sometimes22:41
jgriffithmtreinish: little macbook makes a great xterm to my Linux servers22:42
patrickeastcmd+shift+r for mac does it22:42
* patrickeast is a heathen (at work)22:42
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jgriffithmtreinish: Good tip.. that did the trick22:42
mtreinishpatrickeast: well considering it seems I'm outnumbered here I might be too :)22:43
jgriffithmtreinish: LOL22:43
jgriffithmtreinish: it's funny, I never thought I'd use a mac... but I've grown to kinda like it22:44
jgriffithmtreinish: since I get to use both22:44
jgriffithmtreinish: if I had to choose one or the other... that would be different22:44
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mtreinishyeah I can respect that, osx is just too shiny for me. I also need my nipple for the mouse, touchpads don't do it for me22:45
jgriffithmtreinish: hehe... I get that for sure22:45
jgriffithmtreinish: another rev on the Intel side and I'll be going back to ThinkPad's22:46
jgriffithjust waiting for the battery life and displays22:46
mtreinishjgriffith: have you looked at the gen 3 x1 carbon?22:47
mtreinishI really wish I didn't buy a gen2 last summer22:47
jgriffithI have... and I'm close to going that route22:47
jgriffithmtreinish: DOH!  Yeah, I heard that's kind of a bummer with the function keys thing22:47
jgriffithbut that it was pretty solid other than that22:48
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jgriffithI LOVE my T440s, but the display is absolute garbage, and batt life is around 2-3 hours22:48
hemnaI was thinking about picking up a new macbook Air22:48
mtreinishyeah, it's kinda weird. The key layout is just weird. Also, no physical buttons for the mouse takes getting used to22:48
jgriffithhemna: don't do it22:48
hemnano ?22:48
jgriffithhemna: go with the 13 inch Retina...22:48
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hemnayah ?22:49
jgriffithhemna: or the new "macbook"22:49
jgriffithnon pro22:49
patrickeastyea that new macbook one looks sweet22:49
hemnaI played with the new macbook22:49
jgriffithreason being for me is I'm a display biggot22:49
hemnaI like the keys, but the cpu is crap22:49
jgriffithI want RESOLUTION :)22:49
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jgriffithhemna: yeah, and the CPU on the air is the other deal breaker IMHO22:49
hemnai7 ?22:49
patrickeasti ended up getting one of the lenovo y50’s because of that, turns out 4k on a laptop might have been too much22:49
jgriffithFor a little more you can get a real processor on the 13 inch Retina22:49
hemnapatrickeast, lol22:50
jgriffithpatrickeast: hehe.. NEVER!!! :)22:50
patrickeasti have to scale it up22:50
patrickeastthings are too small to read22:50
jgriffithThat's funny22:50
mtreinishpatrickeast: just buy a magnifying glass22:50
hemna2 angstrom fonts?22:50
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thingeehemna: when I complained to jgriffith that the macbook pro was too heavy and I was considering the air, he told me to lift weights.23:10
thingeeso I did23:10
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thingeemtreinish: I ended up keeping my 2nd gen and not getting the 1st gen23:12
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jgriffiththingee: LOL23:13
mtreinishthingee: cool, I think that's probably the right choice. The higher res screen and faster cpu are probably worth the weird keyboard23:13
mtreinishI don't think I'd trade mine in for a 1st gen either23:14
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Update logging to include resource tag  https://review.openstack.org/17353423:17
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thingeehemna: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169740/23:31
thingeehemna: is it fine for me to comment that I spoke to you and kmartin that this isn't being supported by HP anymore?23:32
kmartinthingee, correct the OpenStack driver is not supported by HP23:35
kmartinthingee, sure you can use Walt's or my name in the comment.23:37
thingeekmartin: thanks23:38
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