Monday, 2015-05-04

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openstackgerritRick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use new driver model
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/cinder: non-admin user to query volume filter by az
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Adds support to force-delete backups
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openstackgerritEdwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem
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openstackgerritJessy Lee proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume drivers for Infortrend Storage
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deepakcsmkoderer, ping07:31
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openstackgerritEdwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem
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hodosis this current?08:16
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avishayhodos: i believe so08:35
hodoswhat about retype or migrate?08:36
avishayhodos: not required08:36
hodosavishay: will it pass tempest ?08:36
avishayhodos: also there are generic implementations there, so most drivers get them for "free"08:36
avishayhodos: yes08:36
hodosavishay: i'm running tempest against nexenta nfs driver, getting a lot of errors and don't know where to dig08:37
hodosavishay: many like this: VolumeBuildError or simply timeouts08:38
avishayhodos: have you looked in the logs?08:39
hodosavishay: yes, but there are no cinder errors08:39
hodosavishay: only tempest08:39
hodosavishay: if you could take a look,
avishayhodos: you have errors in the cinder-scheduler log08:44
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hodosavishay: thank you for pointing. looks like i need more space on the storage08:48
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avishayhodos: no problem08:49
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mkodererdeepakcs: pong09:09
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deepakcsmkoderer, about the ABCMeta driver porting, i was looking at the bp, it doesn't have much info. Was trying to understand the background/context for the same.09:10
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mkodererdeepakcs: did you had a look to the specs?
deepakcsmkoderer, thanks, that should help, will get back if i have more Qs09:12
mkodererdeepakcs: cool, yep sure09:12
deepakcsmkoderer, do we have any hard deadline for this ?09:12
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mkodererdeepakcs: mh, I would like to see all drivers ported during L09:14
deepakcsmkoderer, ok , it would be good to update the spec link in the bp, i kind of missed realizing the cinder-specs repo and was thinking why the bp in LP doesn't have any details, nor the mail u sent had :)09:15
mkodererdeepakcs: just check the whiteboard... the first commit was the spec09:17
deepakcsmkoderer, yeah my bad, thanks09:18
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openstackgerritLiu Xinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei driver fix problems under multipath
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Enable vCenter certificate verification
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/cinder: Port block_device driver to use new driver model
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/cinder: Port remote_fs driver to use new driver model
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Backup object
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scottdactina_: Did you get an answer to your question regarding volumes stuck in attaching/detaching?13:21
ctina_not that I saw13:21
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scottdaI have filed nova and novaclient bugs to fix this on the Nova side:13:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1449223 in python-novaclient "Nova volume-detach lacks '--force' command for cleanup " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Andrea Rosa (andrea-rosa-m)13:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1449221 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova volume-detach lacks '--force' command for cleanup" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Andrea Rosa (andrea-rosa-m)13:24
scottdaAnd Cinder BP and spec for changes in Cinder:
ctina_awesome thank you!13:25
scottdaSure. Feel free to review that Cinder BP and spec, it could use some attention.13:26
scottdaAnd add "affects me" to Nova bugs, that will help as well.13:26
ctina_will do :)13:26
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openstackgerritRick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use new driver model
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openstackgerritRick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Add patch for consistency group update in ProphetStor driver
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Introduce functional testing to cinderclient
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rhedlindmkoderer: question about the ABC classes. How come there are separate classes for Cloneable, CloneableImage, Extend, Snapshot? The functionailty covered by those classes was required in Icehouse and all drivers should already have it. Couldn't that move down to BaseVD?15:49
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thingeeangela-s: which bps?16:50
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thingeeameade: you mind adding a description to the live migration session. This will show up on sched
thingeee0ne: you mind adding a description to your working session? this will show up on sche17:07
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e0nethingee: hi. do you mean cinder agent/ironic integration session?17:10
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thingeewinston-d: you mind adding a description for your sessions? This will show up sched
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e0neok, i'll do it17:11
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mkodererrhedlind: I don't see any "extend" function for block_device for instance17:30
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mkodererrhedlind: e.g.
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mkodererrhedlind: but in general you are correct, if we see a class implemented by all drivers it should be move to BaseVD17:31
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add new exception to retryables in SolidFire driver
erlonjgriffith: ping17:34
e0nethingee: done. thanks for take care on it17:34
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e0nethingee: i'll ping devananda once schedule will be complete. he is interesting in this session too17:35
mkodererthingee: is the design summit sched already available somewhere?17:35
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jdandreaIn cinder.conf, is volume_clear case sensitive?17:38
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jgriffitherlon: what's up?17:43
erlonjgriffith: hi John17:43
jgriffitherlon: hey17:43
thingeeapparently I can't rename the working sessions17:43
thingeejust the description. annoying17:43
erlonjgriffith: I was talking to thingee, about this feature on cinder:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1250696 in OpenStack Core Infrastructure "cinder is missing an equivalent to the large_ops test" [Wishlist,Triaged]17:43
jgriffitherlon: ahh... indeed17:44
erlonjgriffith: he said you started to work on it I while ago17:44
jgriffitherlon: yeah, so I created a FakeISCSIDriver17:44
jgriffitherlon: but TBH it's likely rotted a bit17:44
jgriffitherlon: I haven't *done* anythin in terms of an actual test as of yet17:45
jgriffitherlon: rally picked up a good deal of the slack on that IMO17:45
e0nethingee: just told to devananda. they would like to move our session to wednesday:(17:45
jgriffitherlon: I'd like to see us fix up the fake driver (maybe even write a new one) and look at this being on of the first "internal" functional tests for Cinder17:45
thingeee0ne: sounds fine17:46
erlonjgriffith: hmm, if you have this old cold I can have a look to see what I can do17:46
thingeepreferred time?17:46
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jgriffitherlon: it's in master :)17:46
jgriffitherlon: Cinder's best kept secret :)17:47
erlonjgriffith: o_O17:47
e0nethingee: great! we discuss it in #openstack-meeting-317:47
jgriffitherlon: cinder/volume/driver.py17:47
erlonjgriffith: I looked at nova's17:47
erlonjgriffith: hmmm, its in the same file17:47
thingeee0ne: preferred time?17:47
jgriffitherlon: ?17:47
jgriffitherlon: yeah, it's a subclass in driver.py17:48
e0nefew mins, please17:48
jgriffitherlon: note, "cinder/cinder/volume/"17:48
erlonjgriffith: nova has the same fake driver functionality17:48
erlonjgriffith: I seeing it now17:48
e0nethingee: "ironic doesn't have any slots on weds." so it's up to you to choose time for mi17:49
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erlonjgriffith: so, how would this be used? I mean, the tests for fake virt driver in nova is disabled by default, what are a situation where the fake driver in cinder would be used?17:50
jgriffitherlon: so the use case there was I want to run functional tests without having a valid backend device/VG17:51
jgriffitherlon: no data xfr, no actual "storage"17:51
jgriffitherlon: just excercise all of the Cinder code including iscsi targets17:51
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jgriffitherlon: be able to easily do things like "create 1000 100GB volumes"17:52
erlonjgriffith: mhm, ins't this working in the actual state?17:52
jgriffitherlon: Not sure, I would imagine it likely needs some updating, but I haven't tried it in almost a year :)17:53
jgriffitherlon: I've moved on to just using thin LVM17:53
jgriffitherlon: and nobody else seemed to ever have a use for it17:53
erlonjgriffith: to make it really usefull I think it would need a CI, otherwise folks will just skip those tests17:55
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jgriffitherlon: probably17:55
jgriffitherlon: but my point is/was that it may not really be useful anymore anyway17:55
jgriffitherlon: in other words, write functional CI tests that use LVM-Thin17:56
eharneyfwiw, i used the Fake ISCSI helper the other day17:56
jgriffitherlon: still excercises everything but doesn't need real storage backing17:56
jgriffitheharney: yeah, the helper should be good... I'm just not sure the backend fake driver is still in a usable state17:56
jgriffitheharney: erlon so it all depends on what people want to test.17:57
jgriffithI always thought the fake was useful and good to have17:57
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jgriffithI just don't know that anybody else agrees or not17:57
eharneyi would have used that, but i forgot it was there, so i used thinlvm :)17:57
jgriffitheharney: LOL :)17:57
jgriffitherlon: so there's the answer :)17:57
erlonjgriffith: :)17:58
jgriffitherlon: it's useful/good to have, we just need ot make sure we maintain it properly and that everyones aware it exists17:58
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jgriffitherlon: using it in a large_ops test would do that for us17:58
erlonjgriffith: ill make patch to remove the fake lol17:58
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jgriffitherlon: why I oughta!!!!17:59
eharneyi think i missed why we want to remove it17:59
jgriffitheharney: I'm assuming he was joking there17:59
erlonjgriffith: but as I said even if the tests exists it will not be of big benefit as most of people will not test it in their patches17:59
jgriffitheharney: I'm certainly not in favor of that17:59
eharneyoh, duh :)18:00
jgriffitherlon: but that's not what it's "for"18:00
erloneharney: just joking18:00
jgriffitherlon: it's for people like me with a whimpy VM or an instance in the cloud that I want to hammer on the API and DB18:00
e0nejgriffith, eharney: fyi, i'm going to use fake driver for api performance tests18:00
jgriffithor whatever18:00
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jgriffithe0ne: fake driver FTW18:00
erlonjgriffith: hmm, i see18:00
e0nejgriffith: yes. it's interesting to know what is difference between Juno in Kilo in performence18:01
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openstackgerritRushil Chugh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid LUN ID collisions in iSCSI drivers
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ameadethingee: done18:15
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openstackgerritRushil Chugh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid LUN ID collisions in iSCSI drivers
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smcginnisrushiagr_away, tbarron: Is there any discussion internally a NetApp that this copyright header policy doesn't really work long term?18:31
smcginnishemna: CC ^^18:32
hemnaI found it odd that the developer's name was on the copyright header18:32
hemnaand what the purpose of it was18:32
tbarronsmcginnis: I think rushiagr_away works for a new place now, w/o the unscalable copyright stuff :-)18:32
smcginnishemna: It's a NetApp legal policy I believe.18:32
tbarronhemna: smcginnis: it's legal mumbo-jumbo18:33
smcginnistbarron: hemna pointed out one of the instances where an individual developer copyright was added.18:33
smcginnisThe problem is, every time a NA employee does a change it adds another line to the header.18:33
tbarronsmcginnis: hemna: I can tell lawyer stories face-to-face18:33
smcginnisSome files have 5-6 lines already.18:33
tbarronsmcginnis: I don't like it myself18:33
smcginnisBy the time we get to N or O it's going to be more header than source. :)18:34
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hemnaThe copyright doesn't even have netapp in it.18:34
hemnait's a person's name18:34
smcginnistbarron: Can you push back at all that the OpenStack community doesn't like it?18:34
* hemna scratches head18:34
openstackgerritRushil Chugh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid LUN ID collisions in NetApp iSCSI drivers
tbarronsmcginnis: hemna: I'll be happy to do that18:34
smcginnistbarron: Sorry to put it on you. I know it's not your fault.18:35
tbarronsmcginnis: I don't mind at all.18:35
smcginnisMaybe OpenStack should publish a policy that it's not allowed to do individual developers per company. :)18:35
tbarronsmcginnis: hemna: I feel a bit silly adding that line.18:36
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dustinstbarron: me too. lawyers are weird :)18:36
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hemnabut it's a single person's name18:36
hemnanot Netapp18:36
hemnaI don't get it18:36
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smcginnisFile's like this are a bit nutty:
tbarronsmcginnis: that said, it would probably make sense to explain the community's objectins better.18:37
smcginnisNutty-ness is frowned upon. That's my official statement for legal. ;)18:37
tbarronbit nutty, 5 or six comment lines (out of hundreds or thousands), people don't get the motivation18:37
tbarronthose aren't themselves the most compelling counter-arguments18:38
smcginnisSo is the policy only in relation to files for NetApp drivers, etc? Or for any open source file modified by a NetApp employee?18:38
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tbarroneven though I don't myself *want* to be doing this, but I'm not sure those objections by themselves weigh that heavy18:39
tbarronThe policy we were told was anything we touch.18:39
smcginnistbarron: Just pointing it out since hemna commented in a review with an objection to it too.18:39
tbarronsmcginnis: understood18:39
hemnaso I'm not sure how much Openstack cares about some company's policy for code commits18:39
hemnait just smells funny and doesn18:40
hemnadoesn't look right to me18:40
tbarronhemna: does Openstack care one way or another?18:40
hemnatbarron, I'm sure the foundation does18:40
hemnamaybe I can start putting copyright lines in all of my commits too18:40
tbarronhemna: I think you could18:40
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tbarronhemna: I personally feel silly doing it18:41
hemnayah, I was just being sarcastic18:41
hemnabut it just doesn't look right to me.18:41
tbarronhemna: I want to put my energy into writing lines of code and not distracting comments18:41
tbarronsmcginnis: hemna: I will definitely bring up with those who made this requirement that it "smells" funny to the cinder community.18:42
tbarronI think they care about being well groomed and socially acceptable.18:42
hemnaI dunno, maybe thingee can weight in on it18:42
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
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tbarronsmcginnis: hemna: if there are other considerations, like anything the foundation actually says on the subject, let's get that out there.18:45
hemnayah, I agree.  I don't actually know what the foundation thinks, or cares about personally.18:45
hemnamaybe a ML post about it ?18:45
hemnaI'm not sure how to address it18:45
tbarronhemna: smcginnis: otherwise the whole thing seems a distraction.18:45
smcginnisYeah, I don't really want to make a big deal about it. I just don't really like it. :)18:46
hemnasmcginnis, +118:48
eharneythere have been a handful of ML posts about this over the last year or two, fwiw18:48
smcginnisOh? Other objections?18:49
thingeehemna: I don't think my opinion is going to change the opinions of lawyers :) .. .but I agree I don't get it myself18:49
hemnathingee, should we bubble this up to the ML or OpenStack foundation?18:50
hemnado we care?18:50
hemnait's just really strange to me.18:50
hemnaI mean every developer touching a file adds their name to the copyright list ?18:50
smcginnisA couple years from now it's really going to be ridiculous.18:50
thingeemight want to search the archives just to make sure it hasn't already been discussed18:51
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smcginnisSwanson: File not found.18:54
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nikeshmjgriffith: hey good morning,in now sos-ci is now showing,i remembered in one cinder meeting,some discussion was on having common CI19:42
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nikeshmso in liberty is every one going to use the common CI mentioned in
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patrickeastnikeshm: there isn’t any requirement for which framework is used for the CI’s, work is still going on to get a common CI toolset setup though too19:45
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scottdathingee: I see my new Devstack clone doesn't have your latest cinderclient fix for
openstackLaunchpad bug 1448244 in python-cinderclient "Keystone Discovery Warnings Displayed" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Jamie Lennox (jamielennox)19:51
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jgriffithnikeshm: yep, the sos-ci stuff was removed19:51
scottdaDoes something need to be done to get Devstack to pickup a new cinderclient package with the fix?19:51
jgriffithscottda: localconf needs to sepcify to do client installs19:52
jgriffithscottda: by default it pip installs current from pypi19:52
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jgriffithscottda: check out the stackrc file (I think) for what option it is19:52
scottdaOK, well I fixed it up locally. Just wondering how/when Devstack knows to pickup the latest. I guess it needs to make it's way to pypi?19:52
jgriffithscottda: or clone it and pip install -e xxxxx19:52
jgriffithscottda: yeah, needs a tag/push to pypi before it will be there by default19:53
scottdaOK. Anything I can do for that? Or does someone do that periodically?19:53
jgriffithscottda: that's thingee 's gig19:54
scottdaFair enough. Thanks jgriffith.19:55
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements
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smcginnisAnyone seeing devstack errors on defining volume types?20:15
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bswartzscottda, jgriffith: tried adding this to devstack? LIBS_FROM_GIT=python-cinderclient20:15
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dannywilsonsmcginnis: no problem on creating a new volume type from horizon for me20:17
smcginnisdannywilson: Thanks. This is actually on stacking. Stacking fails because it's not able to define the backend volume type.20:17
tbarronsmcginnis: do you have a default volume type set in local.conf ?20:18
dannywilsonsmcginnis: ok20:18
smcginnistbarron: Let me double check. I believe so. And I reverted to my old local.conf that I was using successfully before.20:19
tbarronsmcginnis: I generally unset that, unless I happen to want to use that.20:19
smcginnistbarron: Oh - has that caused trouble having that set?20:19
tbarronunless you want that volume type and are set up for it, yes.20:19
tbarronsmcginnis: I comment out that line and the enabled_backends line, set my own enabled_backends20:20
smcginnisHmm. I do have it set in the new local.conf I was trying to use, but I don't in my old local.conf I fell back to.20:20
smcginnistbarron: I'll give that a shot. Thanks!20:20
tbarronsmcginnis: good luck20:20
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tbarronit worked in *my* devstack.20:21
smcginnistbarron: :)20:21
dannywilsonsmcginnis: FYI, no problem running stack this morning for me with default type set and enabled_backends with two entries20:21
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scottdabswartz: thanks. I'll try that.20:24
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smcginnisdannywilson: Thanks. I'm sure it's something on my end. Might be time to spin up a new dev VM. :)20:24
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setmasonIs it possible to non-disruptively rename a volume-type that has been allocated to a tenant/Project? I’m thinking along the lines of vol-alpha to vol-beta.20:25
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bswartzsetmason: should be -- everything is tracked with IDs internally20:27
setmasoncinder rename…. :\20:28
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dannywilsonsmcginnis: definitely been there before :)20:30
dannywilsonsmcginnis: As a further FYI we have had success with reviving VMs by uninstalling all pip packages and letting install the right ones.  Something like pip freeze | xargs pip uninstall -y20:30
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bswartzsetmason: the CRUD operations are there in the cinder API -- should be possible to update the name field of an existing volume type -- even if the client doesn't support that20:31
bswartznot that I've tried it though20:32
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nikeshmjgriffith: thanks,so for liberty do we have to move our CI for scst target drivers from sos-ci to CI mentioned in
jgriffithnikeshm: Personally I have no intention of switching my stuff20:57
jgriffithnikeshm: but I don't know what someobdy might say is required/not required20:57
jgriffithnikeshm: or frankly why it should matter, other than the end-result20:57
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nikeshmbut i am scared  because in kilo some drivers were removed due to not having CI,so might be in liberty drivers can be removed due to not having CI out of
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Tests: Remove sleep from NFS tests
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asselin__nikeshm, there is no requirement specifying HOW ci is done. just that it is done.21:59
nikeshmasselin: ok thanks,i am going to deploy a CI based on your CI for dothill drivers,will ping you if have any doubt :)22:02
nikeshmasselin: we need a jenkins master and jenkins slave as mentioned in doc,could we do this on same VM or host?22:03
asselin__nikeshm, we use vms22:04
asselin__nikeshm, and we use nodepool to manage jenkin slaves. we don't create any static jenkin slaves22:04
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nikeshmasselin_ : ok so i am going to create  a VM for jenkins master22:08
nikeshmhow much RAM and disk size would be good22:09
nikeshmfor the VM22:09
asselin__nova flavor large22:09
asselin__devstack large22:09
nikeshmasselin_ : so are yu using nova vms? if yes then what is hypervisor "kvm or qemu"?22:15
nikeshmasselin__  : so are yu using nova vms? if yes then what is hypervisor "kvm or qemu"?22:16
asselin__nikeshm, on baremetal, we use kvm.22:17
asselin__nikeshm, for the ci jobs running openstack , we use qemu22:17
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nikeshmbit confuse,as i remembered in sos-ci,we configured a baremetal ubuntu server having kvm with openstack installed and in that setup,we were waiting for desired gerrit events and launching nova VMs using kvm on getting desired event and installing openstack in them and running tempest in them and those vms internally using qemu22:26
nikeshmso there was not slave and master VMs22:27
patrickeastnikeshm: thats basically the same process as what asselin__ ’s scripts set up your system to do22:28
patrickeastthe ‘master’ just coordinates spinning up the devstack vm’s22:28
patrickeastit has zuul which does the gerrit listening and then gearman+jenkins managing the tests22:29
asselin__nikeshm, yeah, sos doesn't use jenkins, so there's not real 'slave'.22:29
asselin__nikeshm, others master/slave are really jenkins terminology22:30
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add functional post test_hook
nikeshmso would it be better to configure jenkins master node on baremetal having kvm or  configuring it on a VM having qemu?22:34
nikeshmi have both available22:36
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patrickeastnikeshm: it doesn’t really matter so much for the master what its running on, it doesn’t do any of the actual testing22:38
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patrickeastnikeshm: as long as it can reach the openstack installation which will end up hosting the devstack vm’s it doesn’t even have to be on the same machine at all22:39
patrickeastnikeshm: as asselin__ mentioned most of us have a baremetal openstack installation configured to use KVM which has VM’s on it, then those devstack vm’s are configured for qemu while they are running tempest22:40
patrickeastnikeshm: the easiest thing is to just create another instance on that openstack install which is used as the ‘master’22:40
openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Change --force parameter into boolean
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nikeshmpatrickeast: thanks22:49
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vilobhmm1has anyone seen this, trying to do live debugging(by runngin cinder quota* commands) to understand quota code better by inseting tracing but always run into "if self.quitting: raise BdbQuit"23:31
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