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| deepakcs | I have a quick Q, can anybody confirm if I can use snapshots as a source of backup in `cinder backup-create` ? | 06:04 |
| deepakcs | Looking at the code, it seems it only support backing up volumes, not snapshots , is that correct ? | 06:05 |
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| wanghao | deepalcs: Yes, it only support backing up volumes now. | 07:09 |
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| deepakcs | wanghao: do you know why backup up snapshots is not supported in backup-create ? | 07:18 |
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| wanghao | deepakcs: don't know why, There is a bp about incremental backup in Kilo :https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/incremental-backup. In this specs, it want to implement the backup of snapshot to support attached volume. But in the code of this bp, I can't find this too... | 07:26 |
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| DuncanT | wanghao: Backup of snap is not yet implemented | 07:43 |
| DuncanT | wanghao: There's a summit session on finalising the details of the design | 07:43 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: ^^^^^ | 07:44 |
| wanghao | DuncanT: OK got it. | 07:44 |
| wanghao | DuncanT: BTW, I update the patch(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180400/) that you +2 at yesterday, for remove some unnecessary debug log message. So could you help me +2 again today? | 07:48 |
| DuncanT | Sure | 07:48 |
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| DuncanT | wanghao: Sorry, looks like you're getting ping-ponged on this one | 08:01 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT: thanks , is there any technical reason/hurdle for not implementing backup of snap in the past, or it was just not picked up ? | 08:10 |
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| DuncanT | deepakcs: technical hurdle - there's no call to attach a snap in any cinder driver | 08:10 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: Or do anything other than create a volume from it | 08:11 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: like volID if we pass snapID to create_backup, then drivers can do what they need to do to get the snap seen as a block device for it to act as a src for backup, no ? | 08:11 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: That code would need writing for every driver, which isn't easy with 40+ drivers | 08:12 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: And some drivers might not be able to do it at all | 08:12 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: yeah, hence it should be left to drivers discretion, is what i thought | 08:12 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: So the plan is to see if the driver has added support for it, and if not, clone a temporary volume for the backup and delete it at the end | 08:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Fix v2 list when num volumes > osapi_max_limit https://review.openstack.org/181875 | 08:13 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: Since incremental backup was tricky enough, there wasn't time to do backup of snap too | 08:13 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: It should get done soon | 08:14 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: ok, thanks for the info | 08:14 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: i have one other req... can you pls look at the WIP patches i sent for the volume-snap-impr BPs (nova and cinder parts): https://review.openstack.org/172813 and https://review.openstack.org/172808 | 08:15 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: they're on my list, but it isn't a code area I look at often so will take a while | 08:16 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: I'm in utc+3 | 08:16 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT: ok, but these BPs were a result of the security issue you highlighted with processign qcow2 files | 08:17 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: so i look at you as stakeholder :) | 08:17 |
| DuncanT | I'm aware - easier to spot the issue than assess the fix though. I will be reviewing them | 08:17 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT: cool | 08:18 |
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| wanghao | DuncanT: hi~ I saw your review. well, I will add one message as you said. Wish Mike will approve it too.:) | 09:40 |
| DuncanT | Thanks. Hopefully he will | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Support storing volume format info https://review.openstack.org/165393 | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Replace suds test dependency with suds-jurko https://review.openstack.org/180130 | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Notification with volume and snaphost metadata https://review.openstack.org/180400 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhijeet Malawade proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unused context parameter https://review.openstack.org/182250 | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Use nfs_oversub_ratio when reporting pool capacity https://review.openstack.org/180199 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add findall server side filtering https://review.openstack.org/180534 | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Find resource refactoring https://review.openstack.org/180533 | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: Add Posix backup driver. Supports simple nas too. https://review.openstack.org/163647 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: GlusterFS backup driver https://review.openstack.org/182254 | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: GlusterFS backup driver https://review.openstack.org/182254 | 12:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: GlusterFS backup driver https://review.openstack.org/182254 | 12:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: Add Posix backup driver. Supports simple nas too. https://review.openstack.org/163647 | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Support volume backup of qcow2 format volume https://review.openstack.org/182276 | 13:00 |
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| jordanP | wanghao, hi. Regarding the patch you just pushed: isn't qemu-nbd concidered insecure ? I though nova replaced it in favor of libguestfs | 13:13 |
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| hodos | why do stable/icehouse and stable/juno cinder branches require oslo.i18n package? | 13:14 |
| hodos | i see a bug also which looks similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1447608 | 13:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447608 in Cinder " pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (oslo.i18n 1.3.1 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('oslo.i18n>=1.5.0'), set(['oslo.utils']))" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Vilobh Meshram (vilobhmm) | 13:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: RemoteFS: Reporting configured reserved_percentage in _update_volume_stats https://review.openstack.org/182286 | 13:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Sathasivam proposed openstack/cinder: Adds friendly zone name support https://review.openstack.org/180518 | 13:17 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: ping | 13:31 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Pong | 13:40 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Mornin! | 13:41 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Morning sir! | 13:41 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I had a question about the cinder/openstack directory. Can anything be modified in there, or is that all just synced from oslo? | 13:42 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: All needs to be sync'd from oslo. Do you need something sync'd over? | 13:42 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Just finalizing the i18n logging cleanup series of patches. | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: There are some things in there that are using % instead of , | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | But translation markers are used, so not a big deal. | 13:43 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, ok, you would want to propose those fixes to oslo-incubator first. | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | Looks like the final patch to close out that bug can just be to stop ignoring that directory. | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Cool, I'll do that. | 13:43 |
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| smcginnis | Yay, cinder side is done then. :) | 13:44 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: On that note... if you have some time can you take a look at Ankit's patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164697/ | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | It covers the volume directory tree which is a huge PITA since it has so much and has a lot of churn. | 13:45 |
| smcginnis | One of those things that is never really a good time to push through, but should be done at some point. | 13:45 |
| smcginnis | And if we can avoid more rebasing and re-reviewing I think that would be good. | 13:45 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: If no time, no worries. Just through I would point it out. | 13:45 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok, I will try to make that a priority so we can get that through. | 13:46 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Thanks. Unfortunately a ton of files in there. | 13:46 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah. Not surprised. | 13:46 |
| smcginnis | Might have been better to split it into easier chunks, but oh well. | 13:47 |
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| DuncanT | Logging and translations seems to be a never ending series of mechanical patches | 13:47 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yeah. I'm really hoping this is it and it makes it better. Though there will always be some things sneaking in. | 13:48 |
| smcginnis | At least the hacking check is in place now so we should be good on translation markers. | 13:48 |
| hodos | why do stable/icehouse and stable/juno cinder branches require oslo.i18n package? | 13:48 |
| * smcginnis crosses fingers | 13:49 | |
| hodos | devstack fails cause of it | 13:49 |
| DuncanT | I wonder why e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164697/14/cinder/volume/drivers/netapp/eseries/host_mapper.py line 87 wasn't caught by the hacking check in the jenkins run? | 13:50 |
| DuncanT | jordanP: Can you add that as a (0 vote) question on the review so that it doesn't get lost, please? | 13:50 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: It checks for _Lx() markers but checking for % vs , is a little too difficult. | 13:50 |
| smcginnis | At least for my checking-fu. | 13:51 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: Ah, ok, thanks. I'll see if I can find a hacking check master to write one, the recently added (or at least proposed) AST shouldbe able to do it | 13:51 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Still gotta get some time to learn AST. Seems like a lot of cool stuff could be done using that. | 13:52 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: Definitely. There are a few libraries built on top of it that make some things easier, particularly automated code transforms | 13:52 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: Baron/RedBaron was recommended to me at Fosdem | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add --os-endpoint-type to match other services https://review.openstack.org/182287 | 13:55 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Cool, I'll have to check that out. Any helper/wrappers for it should be useful. Thanks! | 13:55 |
| jordanP | DuncanT, I will | 13:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (openstack) https://review.openstack.org/182299 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Check volume_backend in retype https://review.openstack.org/182055 | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Add patch for consistency group update in ProphetStor driver https://review.openstack.org/169653 | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use new driver model https://review.openstack.org/178992 | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/178410 | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Check type match on create from source/snap https://review.openstack.org/182327 | 14:42 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: guitarzan xyang1 smcginnis Reworked without the now defunct dep: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182327/1 | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: I changed the name for ya to :) | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | On my queue. | 14:46 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: :) | 14:46 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: Ok, will take a look | 14:48 |
| guitarzan | jgriffith: was there any desire to ever ask the driver if retype is possible? | 14:48 |
| guitarzan | I guess matching backend names is close | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add --os-endpoint-type to match other services https://review.openstack.org/182287 | 14:48 |
| guitarzan | I also guess that this is just api "validation" more than anything | 14:48 |
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| jgriffith | guitarzan: maybe, but I'm kinda of "of the opinion" that drivers are 'dumb' WRT Cinder | 14:49 |
| guitarzan | I know | 14:49 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: but some sort of check might be cool, the problem with that though is the rpc boundary | 14:49 |
| guitarzan | yeah, create should stay async | 14:50 |
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| guitarzan | either way you get my +1 and I get to remove my api override hacks whenever we get this far :) | 14:51 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: you and just about every single one of my OpenStack customers | 14:51 |
| guitarzan | haha | 14:51 |
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| guitarzan | and you still think drivers should be dumb :D | 14:51 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: I'm kinda surprised how many people are just flat out annoyed with that stupid limitation | 14:51 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: LMAO | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | well, "relative" :) | 14:52 |
| guitarzan | possibly because the limitation is stupid? | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | So I think they should be "super smart" about their domain :) | 14:52 |
| guitarzan | *cough*independentsnapshots*cough* | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: yes... it is stupid | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: couldn't agree more | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: I'm actually going to consider that again in Liberty FWIW | 14:52 |
| guitarzan | I think we're in a situation where cinder being so opinionated needs to back off a little | 14:53 |
| guitarzan | but I've been of that opinion forever | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: don't know that I'll get anywhere on it, but at least want to look at it again | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: meh, in some cases I think opinionated is good, and wish we were more-so TBH | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: but only on the things I care about :) | 14:53 |
| guitarzan | sure, I just want to sell volumes to people | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | hehe... roger that | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | funny... me too :) | 14:54 |
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| guitarzan | haha | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | just a different delivery/billing model | 14:54 |
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| hemna | mornin | 15:16 |
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| hemna | jungleboyj, ping | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Rushil Chugh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid LUN ID collisions in NetApp iSCSI drivers https://review.openstack.org/179239 | 15:32 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: What up? | 15:38 |
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| hemna | hey, so what's usually the process with those "Updated from global requirements" bot patches | 15:39 |
| hemna | do we just always shove those through ? | 15:39 |
| hemna | re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180830/ | 15:39 |
| jgriffith | hemna: yes | 15:40 |
| hemna | ok, this is the first one I've seen for os-brick, so I was just curious | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Yeah. | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | It is good for a couple people to see if so they are aware of the changes being made. | 15:40 |
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| jungleboyj | That is why I don't blindly +2/A it. | 15:41 |
| jgriffith | hemna: FYI, devstack deploy will use current global regardless | 15:41 |
| hemna | that's what I kind figured, so I didn't ninja it in. | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | No Ginsu for you! | 15:42 |
| jgriffith | hemna: also it used to be they'd auto merge after a while anyway so it didn't really matter | 15:42 |
| jgriffith | but not sure it still does that | 15:42 |
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| hemna | :P | 15:43 |
| hemna | ok I'll let someone else +A them then. | 15:43 |
| hemna | thanks for the info. | 15:43 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: NP. Are we meeting again at some point this week? | 15:48 |
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| thingee | hemna: ugh, was hoping it would land. there are other things that conflict with it that are close to merging. | 15:52 |
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| e0ne | hemna: hi. did you have a time to take a look on cinder-agent poc? | 15:57 |
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| hemna | jungleboyj, yah, I was just waiting for slides from jgriffith to finish off the deck. | 16:04 |
| hemna | thingee, the brick removal patch? | 16:04 |
| thingee | yes | 16:04 |
| hemna | thingee, I issued a recheck...it's almost through check | 16:05 |
| * jgriffith guesses he'll stop reviewing requirements changes. Apparantly you guys know somethign he doesn't | 16:05 | |
| thingee | hemna: yeah saw that | 16:05 |
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| thingee | hemna: do you have time sometime this week to talk about the capabilities spec? | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Ok. Was just curious. This week is looking insane and wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything. | 16:06 |
| thingee | hemna: I'm going to break things out as suggested with just the terms, but would like to talk about how we want to expose information from the driver to an interface that things like horizon can consume, without clogging the MQ | 16:06 |
| hemna | thingee, yah, I'd love to | 16:06 |
| thingee | what does your calendar look like this week? | 16:06 |
| hemna | it's open | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | hemna: where did your g-doc link go? | 16:06 |
| hemna | jgriffith, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack | 16:07 |
| hemna | the dropbox url in there has the latest | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | hemna: thanks | 16:07 |
| Swanson | To anyone. Whatever happened to the multiple iscsi target portal support? Did that make it to nova or brick or whatever magic thing deals with that? | 16:07 |
| hemna | thingee, so today I'm open, tomorrow I have meetings in the mornin until 1, thursday, friday is openm | 16:08 |
| thingee | Swanson: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#OpenStack_Block_Storage_.28Cinder.29 | 16:08 |
| thingee | hemna: k, would rather do today so I have time to write stuff up and get feedback before the summit | 16:09 |
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| hemna | ok | 16:09 |
| hemna | can do a google hangout with some folks that are interested in it, if you like. | 16:10 |
| thingee | sure, I think jgriffith was | 16:10 |
| thingee | jgriffith: can we brain storm today on capabilities stuff again? | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: can't do today | 16:11 |
| Swanson | thingee: Thanks! | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | thingee: you guys can go without me if you want though | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | thingee: we're not going to see eye to eye on that I'm pretty sure | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | thingee: so I'd just be in your way :) | 16:12 |
| thingee | jgriffith: ok, I'll ping you with a link to any new spec for feedback. | 16:12 |
| thingee | jgriffith: going to split things up as you suggested earlier. | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I'll probably just write my own spec at this point | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | and we can compare/discuss in VAncouver | 16:12 |
| thingee | jgriffith: if you could write something before the summit, that would be great | 16:13 |
| thingee | yea | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | thingee: will do | 16:13 |
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| thingee | thangp, DuncanT: how are the rpc compat. discussions going? | 16:16 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, I'm not sure that we aren't on the same page actually. | 16:21 |
| hemna | jgriffith, I kinda thought we were, after all the churning in the meetup, I think we were all kinda saying the same thing, but just had to argue for a while :) | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: maybe | 16:22 |
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| hemna | ok it's in the gate | 16:26 |
| hemna | queued up | 16:26 |
| thingee | hemna: that's what I thought too the last time we all talked. I guess we'll compare specs and see though | 16:27 |
| hemna | ok cool | 16:27 |
| hemna | I'd love to move that forward | 16:27 |
| thingee | hemna: how about after lunch? when do you get done? | 16:27 |
| hemna | I can be available after 1pm PDT | 16:27 |
| thingee | yay same timezone. 1:30 works for me | 16:28 |
| hemna | ok sounds good. | 16:28 |
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| thangp | thingee: we got down the high level stuff - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/duncant-on-versioned-things | 16:47 |
| thangp | thingee: I am working on a prototype right now | 16:47 |
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| hemna | e0ne, hey man | 16:49 |
| hemna | e0ne, I haven't had any time to look at the agent yet | 16:50 |
| e0ne | :( | 16:50 |
| thingee | Got a chance to speak about the CI stuff. hope you all feel like it's well represented for the team http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/what-you-need-to-know-about-openstack-cinder | 16:50 |
| hemna | e0ne, I'm trying to get nova os-brick patch passing unit tests. | 16:50 |
| hemna | e0ne, what's the url | 16:50 |
| hemna | I'll see if I can poke at it real quick | 16:50 |
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| e0ne | hemna: i've got some feedback from our ironic team. thay pay attantion on the security of it | 16:51 |
| hemna | ok good | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack/cinder: RemoteFS: Reporting configured reserved_percentage in _update_volume_stats https://review.openstack.org/182286 | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rushil Chugh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid LUN ID collisions in NetApp iSCSI drivers https://review.openstack.org/179239 | 17:25 |
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| hemna | thingee, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155552/ | 17:27 |
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| Swanson | My log slowly fills/A Moturi joins and quits/Cherry Blossoms Fall | 17:30 |
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| thingee | hemna: time to take over the world! | 17:37 |
| hemna | w00t! | 17:37 |
| * hemna crosses fingers...... | 17:37 | |
| hemna | heh | 17:38 |
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| thingee | hehe | 17:41 |
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| asselin | thingee, nice article | 17:45 |
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| thingee | asselin: thanks. | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC driver honoring folder name after volume creation. https://review.openstack.org/177994 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell: Added verify cert option for REST calls https://review.openstack.org/182396 | 17:54 |
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| Swanson | As god is my witness I have no idea if I submitted that correctly. | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Use nfs_oversub_ratio when reporting pool capacity https://review.openstack.org/180199 | 17:58 |
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| * jungleboyj is crying as I dig into the i18n mega volume patch. | 18:06 | |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yep | 18:14 |
| * jungleboyj can't see your message through the tears smcginnis | 18:14 | |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell: Added verify cert option for REST calls https://review.openstack.org/182396 | 18:57 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Are we supposed to use ',' instead of '%' for LOG.debug ? | 19:08 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yep, that is for all logging. | 19:08 |
| Swanson | Please do. He made me change all mine. | 19:08 |
| smcginnis | And to be fair, it's not a requirement, more of a best practice. | 19:09 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, you aren't the only one still confused about the logging bs. | 19:09 |
| hemna | it's a major source of confusion IMHO | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | It is. | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | Don't preformat with %, use translation markers, don't force conversion (six.text_type) unless absolutely needed. | 19:10 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Just got an explanatio from Jim Carey as he happened to be here. You are right. | 19:15 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Cool. | 19:16 |
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| * jungleboyj should have known that hemna would jump on that. :-) | 19:18 | |
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| jungleboyj | Really we only need the % to force the translation and formatting when it is going to be used in more than one place was the explanation I heard. | 19:19 |
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| e0ne | jungleboyj: 2c from me: we also need % for exception messages. e.g.: raise SomeError(_("Volume %s failed") % vol_id) | 19:22 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Right, if it's not something passed in to the logger then it does need to be formatted like you normally would any other string. | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell: Added verify cert option for REST calls https://review.openstack.org/182396 | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add functional post test_hook https://review.openstack.org/182426 | 19:31 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I now have a monster and a box of popcorn ... maybe that will get me through. | 19:48 |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 19:48 |
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| * smcginnis envisions jungleboyj jacked up on caffeine and downing fists full of popcorn | 20:00 | |
| jungleboyj | :-) You got it! | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | And head banging to Cosmic Gate and A State of Trance. | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | So glad this is all logged. Oh the fun my kids will have googling me when I am gone. | 20:02 |
| jungleboyj | WTF, I am not the only jungleboyj out there. | 20:04 |
| jungleboyj | I am the only one with the license plate though. | 20:05 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Looks good. | 20:16 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: jgriffith DuncanT hemna Anyone else want to look at this i18n volume change or should I just push it through? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164697/ | 20:16 |
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| hemna | LOG.warn | 20:17 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: I've lost interest in it after it went from 150 lines to a monstrosity :-( | 20:17 |
| e0ne | ~1500 LoC. may be it will be goot time to read it with morning coffee | 20:18 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Good use of monstrosity. | 20:19 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: ? | 20:19 |
| hemna | yuh | 20:19 |
| hemna | I'll look through it. | 20:19 |
| DuncanT | It's nearly midnight here, no way I'm touching it now, sorry | 20:19 |
| hemna | only 1500+ lines of changes...... | 20:19 |
| jungleboyj | LOG.warning(_LW("Anyone else want to look at this i18n volume change or should I just push it through? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164697/")) | 20:19 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Yikes, what time is it for you then? | 20:20 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: it's 11.20pm now | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so similar time zone. | 20:21 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: i can't review such big patches so late:( | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | No problem. | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | Whenever you guys have time. Just giving smcginnis a break from begging. | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: Have you seen the new Avengers movie yet. Your storage makes a nice Cameo in the movie. | 20:23 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: i'm afraid that we'll heve merge hell with this patch:( | 20:23 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that is why it is better to get it in sooner than later. | 20:23 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: No. I'll have to check it out:) | 20:24 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, there is a big VNX rack right in the middle of one of the big action scenes about 2/3 of the way through the movie. | 20:24 |
| jungleboyj | Somehow, despite everything around it being destroyed it goes untouched. | 20:24 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: I wonder how much they paid for that | 20:25 |
| jungleboyj | I was wondering that too. | 20:25 |
| hemna | so | 20:25 |
| hemna | is it really necessary to do _LE("Exception: %s") ? | 20:26 |
| hemna | from LOG.error(ex) ? | 20:26 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: I would say that is the better way to do it. | 20:27 |
| e0ne | Oracle ZFSSA CI checked request that was upsated 4 days ago and merged 3 days ago: | 20:28 |
| e0ne | :( | 20:28 |
| hemna | man I dunno | 20:28 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: I am verbose though. | 20:28 |
| hemna | that seems excessive to me | 20:28 |
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| hemna | lots of changes in our driver common class simply due to that. | 20:28 |
| e0ne | hemna: why not LOG.exception? | 20:28 |
| hemna | e0ne, I'm sure this is all really old code at this point. | 20:29 |
| hemna | back in the wild west days of Cinder | 20:29 |
| hemna | 2+ years ago | 20:29 |
| e0ne | hemna: :) | 20:29 |
| thingee | hemna: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-standard-capabilities https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gvfmckslbtj5rpicupee5g5fkqa | 20:29 |
| hemna | e0ne, but you do have a good point | 20:29 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, why not change those to LOG.exception(ex) then ? | 20:29 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: Wish I could find a picture of it but google is failing me. | 20:30 |
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| jungleboyj | Let me look. | 20:30 |
| e0ne | hemna, jungleboyj: not LOG.exeption(ex) but LOG.expection(_LE("Something went wrong")) | 20:30 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: :) | 20:30 |
| e0ne | log.exeption will log traceback in any cace | 20:30 |
| e0ne | s/cace/case | 20:31 |
| thingee | if anyone else wants to talk about standard capabilities https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gvfmckslbtj5rpicupee5g5fkqa | 20:31 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: They are raising the exception. | 20:31 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: I suppose those could be done as LOG.exception(_LE("Something went wrong")) | 20:32 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thoughts? ^^^ | 20:33 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: hm.. are we talking about this https://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.html#logging.Logger.exception? | 20:33 |
| e0ne | we should not use log.execption when we raise it, should we? | 20:33 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: That was what I was wondering. | 20:34 |
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| tbarron | so you guys are saying do LOG.error when it is followed by a raise rather than LOG.exception ? | 20:37 |
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| tbarron | why? | 20:37 |
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| e0ne | hemna, jungleboyj: should we change to log.exception in the this_patch_with_1500_changed_lines? | 20:37 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: I would vote no. Get this in and then hemna can change it to a preferred method if they have one. | 20:38 |
| e0ne | tbarron: becaus log.exception will log traceback | 20:38 |
| tbarron | e0ne: I see, ty | 20:39 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: What is the verdict? It changed log.error to log.exception in many places and then followed by raise | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | Hold on. | 20:40 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1454407 Why Horizon keeps balking at me now? | 20:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454407 in Cinder "cinderclient no longer honors --endpoint-type" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo) | 20:46 |
| jgriffith | scottda: just noticed this afternoon, it constantly throws errors doing "any" cinder'ish stuff | 20:47 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang1: hemna smcginnis Ok, as I am talking this over with Jim/thinking about it I believe the answer is that it is a stylistic choice. | 20:48 |
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| jungleboyj | You can do LOG.error(_LE("My Exception: %s")) or LOG.exception(_LE("Crap I hit an exception:")) | 20:49 |
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| xyang1 | jungleboyj: So if nothing is wrong, why change them everywhere | 20:49 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang1: I don't think we did change them everywhere. | 20:50 |
| scottda | jgriffith: I'm not sure about Horizon, I just discovered trying to fix another bug... | 20:50 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: Lots this kind of changes in the vmax driver | 20:50 |
| scottda | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1453901 | 20:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1453901 in python-cinderclient "cinderclient --endpoint-type differs from other services os-endpoint-type" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo) | 20:51 |
| jgriffith | scottda: cool, I'll poke around at it later and see if I can figure out what's up | 20:51 |
| scottda | If Horizon tries to set the endpoint using '--endpoint-type', then that would explain it. | 20:51 |
| jgriffith | scottda: indeed! | 20:51 |
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| jungleboyj | The advantage to LOG.exception is you will actually get the stack trace which I think is better. | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | scottda: have a shiny +2 | 20:52 |
| jungleboyj | Instead of just the exception message xyang1 | 20:52 |
| scottda | The bug's been in a while, commit is from Jan 7 | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | would be REALLY cool if somebody else would review that sucker | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | scottda: but remember we didn't push the client to pypi until "fairly" recently | 20:52 |
| scottda | ahhhh..right | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | scottda: and my setup I did a pip install latest | 20:53 |
| scottda | But the fix you +2'd is not the fix for this bug...this bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1454407 | 20:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454407 in Cinder "cinderclient no longer honors --endpoint-type" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo) | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | scottda: which to me says "cinderclient may be borked" | 20:53 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: It changed from log.error to log.exception in many places. If it is not necessary, why change them | 20:53 |
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| scottda | I'm testing a patch now, just needs a tweak for the unit tests | 20:53 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: Because then you get the traceback leading up to the exception. | 20:54 |
| jgriffith | scottda: yeah, that's where I started when I saw you post that 1454407 | 20:54 |
| jgriffith | scottda: AFAIC they should both be added, merged and pushed | 20:54 |
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| xyang1 | jungleboyj: You were just saying earlier it is a style choice | 20:55 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: If this is preferred, should we use log.exception from now on | 20:55 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang1: Well, I am talking to Jim Carey and he noted the traceback advantage. So, it depends on if you want a traceback in that instance or not. | 20:56 |
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| smcginnis | Sorry, was in a meeting and just got back. Looking through the traceback. | 20:58 |
| smcginnis | Agree with jungleboyj's last statement. | 20:58 |
| smcginnis | The only thing to actually avoid is LOG.exception(ex). | 20:58 |
| smcginnis | That's incorrect usage IMO. | 20:58 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: ? | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | LOG.exception logs the exception information including the traceback. | 20:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Angela Smith proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Spec for FCZM Zone Driver Friendly Zone names https://review.openstack.org/144384 | 20:59 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that is the wrong way. | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | And you're passing in ex to the logger which will convert it to a string. | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | So you end up logging the exception twice. | 20:59 |
| xyang1 | But it raises again, that will double log the trace | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | Either LOG.error(ex) or LOG.exception(_LE('Bad juju')) | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | My preference being the latter. | 21:00 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Good point. But do we know where it raised up to and gets catched takes care of logging it? | 21:00 |
| smcginnis | It might not. | 21:00 |
| xyang1 | In lots of places, it does log.exception, then raise | 21:01 |
| smcginnis | To be clear, this one isn't my patch. Just think it's big and never a good time for something like this so I'd like to see it go through like jungleboyj siad. | 21:01 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: That could be fine. | 21:01 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: But if one level up it just get caught and logged there then maybe not. | 21:01 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: My point being we don't know at that level what is happening above is. | 21:02 |
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| smcginnis | /us/ | 21:02 |
| xyang1 | That will show trace twice, and redundant info | 21:02 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Good night! | 21:02 |
| xyang1 | We got those comments sometimes too | 21:02 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: If it's being logged. | 21:02 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Where it's caught. | 21:03 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: I do agree it's a concern. But honestly, I'm getting tired of logging and just want it to go away. :) | 21:03 |
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| xyang1 | smcginnis: Agree:) | 21:04 |
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| xyang1 | smcginnis: I basically think this will create merge nightmare without any gain, it changed from log.error(ex) to log.exception | 21:06 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: This one touches a lot of files, so I agree it will cause a lot of merge problems. I don't think there's any good time to do this though, and aside from the LOG.exception pieces I think this does fix some very valid concerns. | 21:07 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: I'd rather take the hit now and get it done. :/ | 21:08 |
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| patrickeast | jgriffith: hey, if you have a few min I have some questions about your drivers image cache feature | 21:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Fix a problem with FAST support in VMAX driver https://review.openstack.org/170000 | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Remove v1 server support https://review.openstack.org/145703 | 21:19 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: sure, what's up? | 21:19 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: so i’m looking into adding something like that into my driver, and wanted to get your thoughts on whether or not i should make more of a common solution or basically just port what you have into mine | 21:21 |
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| smcginnis | patrickeast, jgriffith: That's on my list to look in to at some point as well. | 21:21 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: i figured a common solution would give you a chance to change anything you didn’t like about how it was implemented right now | 21:21 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: so something "common" would be neat... but there are some reasons I didn't do that to beginwith | 21:21 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if we can make it a generic service, but that would be great if we could. | 21:21 |
| patrickeast | hehe yea my guess was it wouldn’t be easy | 21:21 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: if we wanted to make an actual resource that might be a reasonable idea | 21:22 |
| patrickeast | maybe by common, more like helper methods | 21:22 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 21:22 |
| jgriffith | but the only reason it *works* in my case is dedupe, cloning etc | 21:22 |
| patrickeast | yea i dunno how many backends would want to take advantage of it | 21:22 |
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| patrickeast | yea for the pure backends its a huge win | 21:22 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: right | 21:22 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: the only other idea was an internal volume/snap that was owned by "cinder" | 21:23 |
| jgriffith | that could then be used for create-from-snap or volume depending on what was best for Vendor-x | 21:23 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: so that would do the same thing but make it "official'ish" and create a db resource for it etc | 21:23 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: so that volume would be created as a side effect of creating from an image? or a new thing like a sharable ‘golden’ volume kind of thing? | 21:24 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: actually, I'm happy to look at writing a bp and implementing it | 21:24 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: correct | 21:24 |
| patrickeast | haha alright | 21:24 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: oh... wait... | 21:24 |
| jgriffith | :) | 21:24 |
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| jgriffith | what am I saying | 21:25 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 21:25 |
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| patrickeast | jgriffith: oh, somewhat related , i think there is a bug in your implementation now… dunno if it actually breaks anything or is just dead code https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/solidfire.py#L611 | 21:27 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: that params variable is just overwritten, right? | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | lemme look | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | well, it's needed for the delete call | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | so if the image-volume exists, but it's out of date | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | we need to go in and delete it | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | in order to do that we need to use the params | 21:29 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: but on line 610 there is a params, and on 611 it is set to something else? | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | haha | 21:29 |
| patrickeast | i assume its a benign issue | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | oh, yeah, should be params['volumeID'] = | 21:29 |
| patrickeast | just something i noticed when looking at how it worked | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: it is but still I should fix it up | 21:29 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: the code path is kinda tricky in all of that | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I ran into a few weird corner cases | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX Manage/Unmanage Volume https://review.openstack.org/182460 | 21:30 |
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| jgriffith | probably should've written them down :) | 21:30 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: i was going to ask how you handled race conditions and prevented creating two entries in teh cache for the same image, or if thats tackled elsewhere higher up the stack | 21:31 |
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| patrickeast | or maybe it doesn’t really matter | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: hasn't been an issue, because the create is my "flag" | 21:32 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: there's certainly a potential there | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: as it works right now it doesn't "care" if there's a duplicate | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I'd rather "not care" than try and make sure it doesn't happen | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: since it'll do dedupe to *nothing* no harm for the most part | 21:35 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: gotcha, thats was my assumption, seems like a better way than some locks or something | 21:35 |
| patrickeast | hehe yea exactly | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I'm pretty "anti-lock" if you haven't gathered :) | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I think they're over-used | 21:38 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: definitely always better to avoid them if possible | 21:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cinderclient no longer honors --endpoint-type https://review.openstack.org/182465 | 21:40 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: so for the common cache type thing, you mentioned doing the bp and implementation, if your plate is full with other stuff let me know and i can spend some time on it | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX Manage/Unmanage Volume https://review.openstack.org/182460 | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: sure | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: if you were going to do it this week go for it :) | 21:42 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: hehe this week? i could scrap together a bp and spec np… the impl would probably be a little bit later | 21:42 |
| jgriffith | ewww... spec | 21:43 |
| patrickeast | or does it not need a spec? | 21:43 |
| jgriffith | if you ask me no :) | 21:43 |
| patrickeast | well that makes it easier | 21:43 |
| jgriffith | but if you ask anybody else probably | 21:43 |
| patrickeast | lol | 21:43 |
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| patrickeast | so… if i write the code you’ll ninja +2/A? no spec, no problem? | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: haah... I got in trouble for that | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | just yesterday in fact | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | and it was only a one line patch with 6 +1's on it | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | so the answer is "no" I won't :) | 21:44 |
| patrickeast | that seems weird | 21:44 |
| patrickeast | ok ok | 21:44 |
| patrickeast | spec it is | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | sad but true | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Fix overwrite of params in SF image cache update https://review.openstack.org/182471 | 21:50 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: thanks for pointing that out by the way | 21:50 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: np | 21:50 |
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| thingee | "solidfire craft brews" ?? | 21:53 |
| thingee | jgriffith: ^ | 21:53 |
| thingee | nice | 21:53 |
| jgriffith | thingee: what's that? | 21:53 |
| jgriffith | thingee: oh... cool! | 21:53 |
| thingee | jgriffith: it was in the "OpenStack Summit Vancouver Pre and Preview" email | 21:53 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I'm happy to hear you're all making beer in Colorado too ;) | 21:54 |
| jgriffith | Oh doood | 21:55 |
| jgriffith | There are TONS of breweries here, and one of our lead biz guys runs a popular brewery up the street in his "spare" time | 21:55 |
| jgriffith | as in... "he doesn't sleep, EVER" | 21:55 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I know! fort collins was awesome | 21:56 |
| * thingee kind of hopes the next midcycle meet up is back in colorado ;) | 21:56 | |
| * thingee and hopes to still get bbq from jgriffith's farm | 21:56 | |
| jgriffith | thingee: oh yeah!! For sure this time!! | 22:00 |
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| * jgriffith eyes the pigs.... "who's it gonna be" | 22:01 | |
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| jgriffith | just kidding | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: LVM: Support efficient data copy using "dd" for create_cloned_volume https://review.openstack.org/182473 | 22:01 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: Nice! | 22:02 |
| mtanino | jgriffith: thanks :) | 22:02 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: honestly I didn't know if that would work with images or not | 22:02 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: that's awesome! | 22:02 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: I think we need to figure out how to push thin as the default in Liberty | 22:03 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: maybe I'll spin up a CI so we get some mileage on it | 22:03 |
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| mtanino | jgriffith: we need to discuss on the sprint? | 22:04 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: sprint, or summit next week? | 22:04 |
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| jgriffith | mtanino: I'd say summit next week personally | 22:04 |
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| mtanino | jgriffith: I thought the sprint is friday of the summit, | 22:05 |
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| jgriffith | mtanino: OHHHH that sprint! | 22:05 |
| jgriffith | LOL.. yes! | 22:05 |
| mtanino | yeah! | 22:05 |
| jgriffith | I thought you meant mid-cycle spring | 22:05 |
| jgriffith | sprint | 22:06 |
| jgriffith | yes... Friday for sure! | 22:06 |
| mtanino | ah, I got it. | 22:06 |
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| tsekiyama | mtanino: jgriffith: for image-to-volume case, qemu-img has -S (sparse_size) option, but it actually doesn't write sparsely to the LVM thin volume.. | 22:10 |
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| tsekiyama | so the volume is allocated 100%. | 22:10 |
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| jgriffith | tsekiyama: it's the "dd" that's the problem | 22:10 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: because we can't convert directly from the qcow to the disk | 22:10 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: remember it does qcow--->raw--->cinder-volume | 22:10 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: yeah in that case it is no problem | 22:10 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: I meant qemu-img would be problematic when creating a new volume from Glance image | 22:11 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: ahhh | 22:13 |
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| tsekiyama | jgriffith: I confirmed that "qemu-img convert" is directly writing to the cinder-volume, at least with LVM driver.. | 22:21 |
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| jgriffith | tsekiyama: ? | 22:26 |
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| jgriffith | Oh, you're talking about create from image | 22:28 |
| jgriffith | not clone | 22:28 |
| jgriffith | sorry... I was mixing the two up | 22:28 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: right | 22:28 |
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| jgriffith | tsekiyama: so you're saying that sparse option in qemu-convert still doesn't work | 22:29 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: exactly. | 22:29 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: ok... sorry I was confused | 22:29 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: yeah, I had hoped that had been fixed | 22:29 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: always wondered if we could do somethign to get around it... besides caching | 22:29 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: but even optimizations there might be good... | 22:30 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: like "create the smallest size volume possible" copy the image then extend it | 22:30 |
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| jgriffith | tsekiyama: so rather than working with say a 10G volume for a base ubuntu image you work with something like 250MB's | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | I think that would sure help | 22:31 |
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| tsekiyama | jgriffith: ah, that might work, I think | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: so the trick is you have to have virt-size set on your image properties | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | which by default it is not | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: anyway, I think it would be a worthwhile optimization | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: that's what I put in the SolidFire driver FWIW | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | made a significant improvement | 22:33 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: Interesting. thank you for the information | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: sure | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: let me know how it goes if you decide to work on it | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: between that and the caching stuff patrickeast brought up I may just offload all of my work for Liberty to other people :) | 22:34 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: sure. I'll try looking into solidfire trick | 22:34 |
| tsekiyama | :) | 22:34 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: as long as you keep working on replication thats ok with me :D | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | tsekiyama: cool, and don't hesitate to ask, it's pretty easy though | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: speaking of which... I'm convinced you're all trying to just 'spec' me to death | 22:34 |
| tsekiyama | jgriffith: ok, thanks! | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | :) | 22:34 |
| patrickeast | haha | 22:35 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: do you still got the cinder logo handy? Product WG is asking for it in there slides at the conference. | 22:44 |
| thingee | I've been doing a mass search on my damn slow home nas and not finding it | 22:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cinderclient deprecated endpoint_type needs dest= https://review.openstack.org/182486 | 22:46 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: errr... might | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | thingee: it's probably in a backup somewhere | 22:47 |
| thingee | jgriffith: lol that's what I said | 22:48 |
| thingee | your backup is as good as mine :P | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cinderclient deprecated endpoint_type needs dest= https://review.openstack.org/182486 | 22:49 |
| scottda | That seems like a recipe for a merge issue... | 22:50 |
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| kmartin | thingee, is it the openstack logo with the cinder brick behind it | 22:59 |
| thingee | kmartin: it was just the cinder brick logo | 23:00 |
| kmartin | thingee ok, jungleboyj has one in his email signature but it's not that one | 23:01 |
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