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openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/cinder: Efficient image download and upload for Glance Cinder backend https://review.openstack.org/201754 | 00:26 |
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openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Cinder replication V2 https://review.openstack.org/200269 | 00:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Fixes table when there are multiline in result data https://review.openstack.org/203919 | 01:20 |
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openstackgerrit | chenying proposed openstack/cinder: Publish capabilities after volume creation successful https://review.openstack.org/203961 | 01:43 |
openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Fix concurrent attaches on HNAS iSCSI driver https://review.openstack.org/203780 | 01:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Fix update_migrate_volume() exception handling https://review.openstack.org/198731 | 01:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Fix concurrent attaches on HNAS iSCSI driver https://review.openstack.org/203780 | 01:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Teruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/cinder: Add missing backup/restore methods to Sheepdog driver https://review.openstack.org/162927 | 02:34 |
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openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Use a single base class for the VolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/201812 | 02:38 |
openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Use a single base class for the VolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/201812 | 02:39 |
jgriffith | mkoderer: I'd be really interested in your thoughts on that one ^^ | 02:40 |
jgriffith | mkoderer: and still certainly open to collaborating if/when you'd like to | 02:40 |
jgriffith | but for now.. I'm calling it a night :) | 02:40 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201336 | 03:28 |
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openstackgerrit | chenying proposed openstack/cinder: Publish capabilities after volume creation successful https://review.openstack.org/203961 | 03:38 |
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openstackgerrit | IBM Testing CI proposed openstack/cinder: Add I/T mapping check for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/203616 | 03:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Volume status management during migration https://review.openstack.org/186312 | 04:01 |
openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add hypermetro support for huawei volume driver https://review.openstack.org/202023 | 04:02 |
openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Enhance FC zone support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201578 | 04:04 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI multipath support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188365 | 04:09 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add smartX support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188732 | 04:12 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add multiple pools support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188251 | 04:15 |
openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/203952 | 04:15 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume migration support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201406 | 04:18 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201336 | 04:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Volume status management during migration https://review.openstack.org/186312 | 05:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Volume status management during migration https://review.openstack.org/186312 | 06:18 |
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openstackgerrit | ubaumann proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes bug in deletion of a non existing volume https://review.openstack.org/204702 | 06:36 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201336 | 07:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Atsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/cinder: rename filename from il8n.rst to i18n.rst https://review.openstack.org/204936 | 07:48 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201336 | 07:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Teruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog: Add class for dog command executor https://review.openstack.org/194532 | 08:02 |
openstackgerrit | Teruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog: improve create and delete operation https://review.openstack.org/197393 | 08:04 |
openstackgerrit | Teruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog: improve snapshot and clone operation https://review.openstack.org/198952 | 08:06 |
openstackgerrit | Teruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog: improve image operations https://review.openstack.org/202954 | 08:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/203952 | 08:14 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Enhance FC zone support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201578 | 08:31 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add smartX support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188732 | 08:35 |
openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume migration support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201406 | 08:37 |
openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/204953 | 08:38 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add hypermetro support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/202023 | 09:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/cinder: Add Cinder API WSGI app to run under Apache/Nginx https://review.openstack.org/200551 | 09:59 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204983 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204984 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204985 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204986 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204987 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204988 | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Huawei FusionStorage driver https://review.openstack.org/204989 | 10:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Volume status management during migration https://review.openstack.org/186312 | 10:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/189614 | 10:43 |
openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/203952 | 10:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/204953 | 10:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unused arguments from c-vol's create_volume https://review.openstack.org/199590 | 11:09 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactoring of manager's create_volume flow https://review.openstack.org/193167 | 11:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: ConsistencyGroup Object https://review.openstack.org/163641 | 11:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Atsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/cinder: rename filename from il8n.rst to i18n.rst https://review.openstack.org/204936 | 11:59 |
openstackgerrit | Atsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/cinder: rename filename from il8n.rst to i18n.rst https://review.openstack.org/204936 | 11:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Atsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/cinder: Rename filename from il8n.rst to i18n.rst https://review.openstack.org/204936 | 12:26 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201336 | 12:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Furuta Tomonori proposed openstack/cinder: Fix _LI() to _LW() in LOG.warning message https://review.openstack.org/205046 | 12:54 |
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openstackgerrit | ubaumann proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes bug in deletion of a non existing volume https://review.openstack.org/204702 | 13:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Tooz locks https://review.openstack.org/183537 | 13:02 |
openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: POC: Tooz locks demo https://review.openstack.org/185646 | 13:03 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI multipath support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188365 | 13:35 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add smartX support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188732 | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume migration support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201406 | 13:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Furuta Tomonori proposed openstack/cinder: Fix _LI() to _LW() in LOG.warning message https://review.openstack.org/205046 | 13:45 |
openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware:Replace vCenter calls with oslo.vmware calls https://review.openstack.org/201981 | 13:45 |
eharney | tempest-dsvm-full-lio is now running on patches | 13:47 |
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jgriffith | eharney: I just noticed that on 189614; thanks a lot eharney | 13:51 |
jgriffith | eharney: and it's about 9 minutes faster too!!! :) | 13:51 |
eharney | ooh i hadn't looked at that part | 13:51 |
jgriffith | eharney: sample of two for me, don't know that it means anything at all; but a guy can dream | 13:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: LVM Thin Provisioning auto-detect https://review.openstack.org/104653 | 13:55 |
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swamireddy | hi | 13:57 |
swamireddy | max_pool_size=5 and max_overflow=10 used in cinder.conf file.. | 13:57 |
swamireddy | with these conf values, I could see the error when I try to create 100 volumes in a for loop (of shell script)... | 13:58 |
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swamireddy | And if I increase these max_pool_size=50 and max_overflow=70, all volumes created and it works... | 13:59 |
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swamireddy | my Q is: do we have any ideal values for max_pool_size and max_overflow conf vars? (lie max_pool_size=20 and max_overflow = 30...??) | 14:00 |
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scottda | swamireddy: It depends on the size of your deployment. In our public cloud we set both to 500. | 14:06 |
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scottda | But that is for 1000's of nodes. | 14:07 |
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swamireddy | scottda: thx...both set to same...but overflow should be more than max_pool_size..right? | 14:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Set default policy for "volume:get" https://review.openstack.org/205072 | 14:17 |
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gouthamr | merooney, tclayton: thanks! back to work now :) | 14:18 |
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scottda | swamireddy: I don't recall the semantics, but I don't think overflow needs to be more...i.e. I don't think it is and absolute number, but and amount over max. Not positive on this, though. | 14:19 |
scottda | s/and/an | 14:19 |
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dhellmann | thingee, et al: os-brick 0.3.1 release is done | 14:36 |
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dhellmann | thingee, et al: python-cinderclient 1.1.2 release (kilo) done | 14:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/cinder: Add Cinder internal tenant support https://review.openstack.org/199352 | 14:46 |
openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/cinder: Efficient image download and upload for Glance Cinder backend https://review.openstack.org/201754 | 14:47 |
openstackgerrit | Thang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Continue conversion to volume object https://review.openstack.org/201404 | 14:47 |
openstackgerrit | Thang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Conversion to volume object https://review.openstack.org/177054 | 14:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Shay Halsband proposed openstack/cinder: XtremIO volume driver consistency group support https://review.openstack.org/189135 | 14:54 |
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openstackgerrit | ubaumann proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes bug in deletion of a non existing volume https://review.openstack.org/204702 | 14:58 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: ping | 15:00 |
jgriffith | and guitarzan | 15:01 |
jgriffith | I'm not convinced that this https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1475422 | 15:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1475422 in Cinder "Non-admin users can get volumes in non-authorized tenants" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 15:01 |
jgriffith | should be enforced via db instead of policy | 15:01 |
jgriffith | If that's the case why have a policy file if you're just going to hard code things in the DB? | 15:02 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: not hardcoding anything | 15:02 |
guitarzan | I'm just very surprised that the project_id filter isn't being applied | 15:02 |
guitarzan | maybe we're always using context.elevated? | 15:02 |
guitarzan | I'm looking into this | 15:02 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: Ok, just want to make sure I'm following here and we're not basically disabling the policy file | 15:03 |
guitarzan | no, there is still a policy check | 15:03 |
guitarzan | but I'm starting to understand the "" policy | 15:03 |
guitarzan | or at least where the idea came from | 15:03 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: I'll just note the point in the bug and move on :) | 15:03 |
openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/203952 | 15:03 |
guitarzan | (whether it's correct or not, I'm not sure) | 15:03 |
jgriffith | LOL | 15:03 |
guitarzan | for example the get_all policy | 15:04 |
guitarzan | should be "" | 15:04 |
guitarzan | because anyone should be able to get their volume list | 15:04 |
guitarzan | anyone should be able to get "a" volume | 15:04 |
guitarzan | not a specific one | 15:04 |
guitarzan | this viewable_admin_meta thing in the get call completely changes how it works | 15:05 |
guitarzan | it's no longer "see if the user owns the volume" because it's an admin context | 15:05 |
guitarzan | so now that path is relying on policy, instead of the owner of the object | 15:05 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: Pong. | 15:05 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: that admin_meta and all that is frankly one of the not so good things we did | 15:05 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: NM, talked with guitarzan | 15:05 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: yeah, two paths, one being elevated, one being not elevated, seems very bad | 15:06 |
guitarzan | it should probably elevate afterwards to fetch the admin meta | 15:06 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: it's kinda weird, and ill defined | 15:06 |
guitarzan | instead of using an elevated context to get the volume record | 15:06 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: yeah, I've been pretty sloppy on that stuff in reviews :( | 15:06 |
guitarzan | I'm a little scared by this admin volume get | 15:07 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: Saw that, just followed the discussion. I agree that the policy is probably the right way to go, but wanted to make the bug so we at least look at guitarzan s concern a bit more. | 15:08 |
guitarzan | I'm checking to make sure that icehouse behaves like I thought it does | 15:09 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: indeed... I think guitarzan 's point (which i better understand now) is that the DB layer enforces the policy checks | 15:09 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: no, not the policy checks! | 15:09 |
guitarzan | just to see if the project_id matches | 15:09 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: ha... well there ya go | 15:09 |
guitarzan | no policy | 15:09 |
guitarzan | ignore policy! | 15:09 |
* jgriffith doesn't know jack | 15:09 | |
guitarzan | my tenant id of 1 | 15:09 |
guitarzan | volume get volume with tenant id 2 | 15:09 |
guitarzan | should return a 404 | 15:09 |
guitarzan | regardless of policy | 15:09 |
guitarzan | the db should say, nope, couldn't find your volume sir! | 15:10 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: well, that all goes out the window with public-volumes | 15:10 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: no argument | 15:10 |
eharney | i'm inclined to agree, because if we return 403, we're saying "yes, this volume you aren't supposed to know about does exist with that id" | 15:10 |
guitarzan | public volumes fail with this new policy check as well | 15:10 |
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guitarzan | eharney: there's an explicit 403, return a 404 check in the code | 15:10 |
guitarzan | which is a little goofy | 15:10 |
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guitarzan | but it's because we're doing the volume_get call with an elevated context | 15:11 |
jgriffith | eharney: guitarzan so that makes sense; but my point was then it shouldn't be in the policy file... and it makes me wonder "why policy file" | 15:11 |
guitarzan | whcih is the part that i think is actually very wrong | 15:11 |
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guitarzan | jgriffith: there isn't much point to policy on volume.get() | 15:11 |
guitarzan | however, we have users that simply can't make cinder calls | 15:11 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: and yes, I agree completely the elevated is the problem, it relied on filtering at API IIRC | 15:11 |
guitarzan | and that's a case where poilcy works | 15:11 |
guitarzan | we have global auth, so all users can actually make any call, but they're not given a role that lets them talk to cinder | 15:12 |
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guitarzan | so our policy says, hey, you have to be a cinder user | 15:12 |
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guitarzan | but in general, if you can make cinder calls, there's no reason to policy off volume:get and volume:get_all | 15:12 |
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guitarzan | I am sorry for igniting that discussion about policy "" yesterday before I understood what was going on | 15:13 |
Swanson | Any idea how infra gets those lovely html logs? With the info | debug | yada links at the top? | 15:13 |
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jgriffith | guitarzan: ok, I'll step aside and let you and jungleboyj (and others) figure out what's best here. | 15:13 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: well, it seems like they're on your side, not mine :D | 15:13 |
jgriffith | I clearly don't have a great perspective on the security and policy related stuff in this case | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add multiple pools support to VMAX driver https://review.openstack.org/189990 | 15:14 |
jungleboyj | In the interest of transparency, I think that the policy Check is sufficient. | 15:14 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: so just to make sure I understand what you're asking for: | 15:14 |
jungleboyj | This is also my first foray into the policy code. | 15:15 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: You would like it to behave such that NO MATTER WHAT, Tenant-B can NOT do a "get" on Tenant-A's volume? | 15:15 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: No policy setting, etc. And to eharney 's point, do the context check and just say "not found" | 15:15 |
openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Add the notification and the migration progress indication https://review.openstack.org/204953 | 15:15 |
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guitarzan | jgriffith: the intent is you can't fetch another project's volume, regardless of policy | 15:17 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: now if we introduce "public" or "shared" volumes, that changes | 15:17 |
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guitarzan | but again, it's not policy that's going to determine whether or not you can get that volume | 15:17 |
openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX Modify CG https://review.openstack.org/194829 | 15:17 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: ok | 15:17 |
* jungleboyj is sitting in the Nova meetup. :-) | 15:18 | |
guitarzan | jgriffith: does it make sense? | 15:18 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: I'd like to think I'm not the only one on this train of thought | 15:18 |
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smcginnis | Not following the whole discussion, but what guitarzan says makes sense to me. | 15:19 |
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guitarzan | for the record, even in icehouse, I'm getting the volume_get() call with an elevated context | 15:19 |
openstackgerrit | Thang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Continue conversion to volume object https://review.openstack.org/201404 | 15:19 |
guitarzan | ah, icehouse has the same vviewable_admin_meta thing | 15:19 |
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guitarzan | basically whenever that got added, policy was used for determining if someone can see a volume and not the project_id of the object | 15:20 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: Yeah, I think that's "ok", like I said I'm not as invested in this topic as some are. I do have some concerns about "some" calls being controlled by policy and others ignoring it etc | 15:20 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: because I'm willing to be a dollar that as soon as we change it like you describe somebody files a bug :) | 15:20 |
guitarzan | it's not ignoring it | 15:20 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: haha, that's possible :) | 15:20 |
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jgriffith | guitarzan: Ok.. "not ignoring it" so now I'm clearly confused; because you clearly reinforced my statement that "regardless of anything, Tenant's can't fetch other Tenant's volume" | 15:21 |
guitarzan | I think policy should be used for "can I make a call" | 15:21 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: AHHHHH | 15:22 |
jgriffith | Wait | 15:22 |
jgriffith | The light just went on | 15:22 |
jgriffith | I get it | 15:22 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: You're 1000000% correct! | 15:22 |
guitarzan | I think the admin_or_owner thing does muddy the water quite a bit | 15:22 |
guitarzan | that a lot of percents dude. I'm sure that's not true | 15:22 |
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guitarzan | however, this bug does go back to icehouse at least, so it is a big enough deal | 15:23 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: yep, we're actually on the same page now... and I agree with you and eharney completely | 15:26 |
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jgriffith | guitarzan: and I think I see how to fix it without too much trouble. The admin meta makes it kinda ugly... because my proposal would make a second call to get that info and filter based on the two lists | 15:26 |
guitarzan | jgriffith: yeah, I thought that was the case | 15:27 |
guitarzan | have to make the metadata call separately with an elevated context | 15:27 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: I think there's a better way to do that though maybe | 15:27 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: so it "used" to do that and I changed it | 15:27 |
guitarzan | well, you could pass the originating project_id down all the way through the db layers | 15:28 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: well, in the list call at least | 15:28 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: because volume-list was taking over 30 seconds to complete with many volumes | 15:28 |
guitarzan | sure | 15:28 |
guitarzan | I do remember that :) | 15:28 |
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guitarzan | it hit me very hard :) | 15:28 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: because the code would 'get all' then loop through and do the elevated get-admin-meta on each volume | 15:28 |
jgriffith | hehe | 15:28 |
jgriffith | yeah.. ok, you remember | 15:28 |
guitarzan | yeah, it needs to be 2 calls instead of n+1 calls | 15:29 |
jgriffith | so... | 15:29 |
jgriffith | yep | 15:29 |
jgriffith | and that's doable | 15:29 |
guitarzan | agreed | 15:29 |
jgriffith | and this is on get anyway, not list so not the same thing... but still :) | 15:29 |
guitarzan | right | 15:29 |
guitarzan | same idea | 15:29 |
guitarzan | using a join versus one extra query | 15:29 |
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jgriffith | Ok... well, jungleboyj has already done his management thing and has it assigned to somebody at IBM | 15:29 |
jgriffith | (I think) | 15:30 |
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jgriffith | otherwise, I'm happy to take a crack at it | 15:30 |
jgriffith | now that I understand it clearly | 15:30 |
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jungleboyj | jgriffith: My management thing? | 15:31 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: Bwah ha ha. | 15:31 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: I don't have it assigned to anyone, just had it on a list so I didn't forget about it. If you have an idea for a solution take a crack at it. | 15:31 |
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jgriffith | jungleboyj: LOL | 15:34 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: I am afraid you were calling me a manager there. | 15:34 |
jungleboyj | ;-) | 15:34 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: haha... "Tech Lead" | 15:35 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ok, I like that better. | 15:35 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: You're pretty good at finding people to help work on things | 15:35 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: something about a big company, sitting close to each other, collaborating and all that *stuff* :) | 15:35 |
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jgriffith | jungleboyj: and being mid-west nice LOL | 15:36 |
jungleboyj | jgriffith: Thank you! I have more friends I am bringing up to help us out too! kjnelson is all about being organized so she is making sure I get stuff into lists. | 15:36 |
jungleboyj | Even worse, Minnesota nice. | 15:37 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: yeah... only thing that trumps that is North-Dakota | 15:37 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:37 |
jungleboyj | Anyway, I just wanted to get a bug out there for the DB/API layer thing. If you have an idea for addressing it that is totally cool with me. | 15:39 |
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jgriffith | Ahh... there are duplicates here | 15:42 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: I was completely wrong in my statement earlier. The Bug I was looking at was filed by tsekiyama https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1475422 | 15:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1475422 in Cinder "Non-admin users can get volumes in non-authorized tenants" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 15:43 |
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jgriffith | jungleboyj: think I'll mark yours as a duplicate, agree? | 15:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: LVM: Support efficient data copy for LVM driver https://review.openstack.org/200237 | 15:55 |
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smcginnis | jgriffith: Since I've only <1/2 followed the discussion, can you comment on this patch if it is correct? | 16:13 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202701/ | 16:14 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: so yes.. but that's different than the other topic | 16:18 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: so that patch is adding API calls that have policy checks to the default policy file | 16:18 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: it isn't *necessary* so to speak, unless somebody wants to actually define something other than the default | 16:18 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: but it's good for completeness/auditing to show all API calls that have policy checks in the policy file IMO | 16:19 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: OK, cool. Wasn't sure if the "" value was right based on the little I picked up earlier. | 16:19 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks for taking a look. | 16:20 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: sure, doing a quick look to make sure those are all that were missing before +2 | 16:20 |
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vincent_hou | winston-d: Hi. | 16:24 |
vincent_hou | winston-d: Are you available here? | 16:24 |
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e0ne | finally, i've found root cause for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1476416 | 16:26 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1476416 in Cinder "backup.api:import_record sets volume_id to '0000-0000-0000-0000'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne) | 16:26 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: so yeah, there are several others missing | 16:26 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: We should probably cover them all while we're at it then. | 16:27 |
e0ne | and i've got no idea how to fix it:( | 16:27 |
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smcginnis | e0ne: At least part way there. :) | 16:27 |
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e0ne | smcginnis: it this case, it's not a bigger part | 16:28 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: agreed | 16:29 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: http://paste.openstack.org/show/404351/ | 16:30 |
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smcginnis | jgriffith: grep -R -A1 wrap_check_policy cinder/* ? :) | 16:31 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: aren't you fancy :) | 16:32 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah! :-D | 16:32 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: I just did "grep "@wrap_check_policy" -a1 cinder/volume/api.py" | 16:33 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: No, fancy would be throwing in some awk calls. | 16:33 |
* jgriffith is an underachiever | 16:33 | |
jgriffith | smcginnis: LOL | 16:33 |
jgriffith | awk | 16:33 |
jgriffith | :) | 16:33 |
e0ne | backup impoer/export and restore for ceph is broken for 2 years. | 16:34 |
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smcginnis | Yikes | 16:34 |
e0ne | do we really need this feature? | 16:34 |
smcginnis | e0ne: Apparently no one is using it. ;) | 16:34 |
jgriffith | e0ne: Yeah, I often wonder about things like that. | 16:34 |
jgriffith | e0ne: It's not like the use of Ceph is "obscure" | 16:35 |
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e0ne | we've got a lot of undocumented features. so nobody except devs knows about them | 16:35 |
jgriffith | e0ne: yeah... there's that too | 16:36 |
e0ne | jgriffith: i asked our suppord about what features do they/client use | 16:36 |
e0ne | jgriffith: the answer was: only documented well | 16:36 |
openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: LVM Thin Provisioning auto-detect https://review.openstack.org/104653 | 16:36 |
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jgriffith | e0ne: don't blame them | 16:37 |
nikeshm | smcginnis: looks like first line of commit message is > 50 characters in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194524/ | 16:37 |
jgriffith | e0ne: but TBF, OpenStack is a "Platform" | 16:37 |
e0ne | jgriffith: i understand it... | 16:37 |
smcginnis | nikeshm: Yeah, missed that. Oh well. | 16:37 |
e0ne | jgriffith: but in an ideal world, i want to support only features that are tested by ci and used by someone | 16:38 |
jgriffith | e0ne: I agree 100% | 16:38 |
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jgriffith | e0ne: I've ranted about this topic before, not doing it again :) | 16:38 |
e0ne | jgriffith: :) | 16:39 |
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e0ne | jgriffith: it's hard to be movitated to write code, that won't be used for next N years | 16:40 |
guitarzan | e0ne: do you just mean fixing bugs that no one ever sees because people don't use the feature? | 16:42 |
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e0ne | guitarzan: in general - no, in this case - yes | 16:43 |
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guitarzan | what do you mean in the general case? | 16:43 |
guitarzan | I have ulterior motives for asking this. :) | 16:44 |
guitarzan | assuming my summit rank talk gets accepted :) | 16:44 |
e0ne | guitarzan: i mean, implementing features which won't be used | 16:44 |
guitarzan | s/rank/rant/ | 16:44 |
guitarzan | cool, that's what I hoped you meant | 16:44 |
e0ne | guitarzan: what is talk topic you proposed? | 16:45 |
guitarzan | just a rant about too much stuff going into cinder | 16:45 |
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swamireddy | scottda: OK...I strongly feel that both numbers should not be same... | 16:45 |
openstackgerrit | Edwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add I/T mapping check for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/203616 | 16:45 |
e0ne | guitarzan: should be interesting | 16:45 |
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guitarzan | we'll see :) | 16:46 |
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vincent_hou | winston-d: Please check my comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186312/. Thank you. | 16:49 |
scottda | swamireddy: You may well be right. I don't know myself. | 16:50 |
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* e0ne bb in ~2 hours | 16:51 | |
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thingee | smcginnis, jgriffith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201806/ | 16:58 |
Swanson | If one wanted to support multiattach where would one look for details on how to implement? | 17:00 |
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Swanson | thingee: do I have a hope in heck that this will be pushable to kilo whenever (if ever) it gets approved? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204217/ | 17:03 |
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jgriffith | Swanson: You'd have to ask hemna for details (other than code), but I don't think the Nova side has landed yet anyway | 17:08 |
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jgriffith | Swanson: also minor detail, I hacked it up for some stuff in Kilo... but it's sort of pointless | 17:09 |
jgriffith | Swanson: because you need a clustered-fs or something unless you're doing R/O | 17:09 |
jgriffith | Swanson: because a second attach with something like ext4 won't actually sync writes from the other node | 17:10 |
dhellmann | thingee: os-brick 0.3.2 released | 17:10 |
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thingee | dhellmann: thank you | 17:10 |
thingee | hemna: ^ | 17:10 |
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hemna | hey | 17:12 |
hemna | sorry, what's up | 17:12 |
hemna | Swanson, the nova multi-attach code hasn't landed. | 17:14 |
hemna | Swanson, even the first step, the nova api is still in WIP and failing jenkins https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153038/ | 17:15 |
jgriffith | Swanson: if you want I can just send you my patches for Kilo :) | 17:16 |
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jgriffith | hemna: last I looked the way you have it written it's not actually going to require anything from the drivers really... is that correct? | 17:16 |
jgriffith | hemna: it's all just changes in status checks and adding some "stuff" | 17:17 |
jgriffith | to the db tables | 17:17 |
hemna | jgriffith, drivers will need to report the capability | 17:17 |
swamireddy | scottda: cool. Thax...will dig more and see, if I can find some more details. | 17:17 |
jgriffith | hemna: well, yeah... of course | 17:17 |
hemna | other than that, if your backend works, great :) | 17:17 |
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scottda | swamireddy: Let me know if you learn anything definitive about this. | 17:18 |
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hemna | Swanson, in order to make a volume multi-attachable, 1) your driver has to report the capability and 2) when you create the volume you have to specify --allow-multiattach | 17:18 |
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rhedlind | thingee, smcginnis: any chance I can get you to look at this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203681/ to put back our driver? I would like it to merge back in before another change shows up and make it harder to use the revert functionality. | 17:19 |
asselin | fyi: our ci's been failing this test: test_volume_backup_export_import recently merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165371/ | 17:20 |
asselin | I updated the tempest timeout so that the restore has enough time to finish | 17:20 |
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patrickeast | asselin: i saw that on mine a few days ago too | 17:24 |
swamireddy | scottda: sure | 17:24 |
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patrickeast | asselin: not sure if its still happening… been putting out other fires with my system this week and haven’t really followed up on it | 17:24 |
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asselin | patrickeast, yeah...this one's been hurting us, finally got a chance to investigate more closely | 17:25 |
asselin | actually fc tests seems to pass b/c it's faster than iscsi :) | 17:26 |
patrickeast | haha | 17:26 |
patrickeast | asselin: how much did you have to increase the timeout to make it pass? | 17:26 |
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asselin | well I found it took about 4 minutes in one instance, so I set the timeout to 5 | 17:26 |
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asselin | but non-ideal since this affects all other tests too... | 17:27 |
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patrickeast | yea :( | 17:28 |
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Swanson | hemna, jgriffith: Sorry went to lunch. Thanks for the info. I'll wait for things to land. | 17:35 |
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Swanson | hemna: "other than that, if your backend works, great :)" What does it require of the backend? | 17:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Add support for driver retype https://review.openstack.org/200765 | 17:48 |
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patrickeast | jgriffith: hey, did you have a chance to see my comments on the internal tenant stuff about automating it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199352/ | 17:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Jon Bernard proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: use user-configured value for max_clone_depth https://review.openstack.org/205202 | 17:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Change cinderclient according to volume migration improvement https://review.openstack.org/189547 | 18:11 |
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jgriffith | patrickeast: holy cow! You wrote a book :) | 18:20 |
patrickeast | hah | 18:20 |
patrickeast | jgriffith: yea sorry about that… started rambling… just rolled with it | 18:20 |
patrickeast | jgriffith: the TL;DR is that it probably could automate it, but its not super straightforward | 18:21 |
patrickeast | jgriffith: and even if we do, we probably want this functionality anyway | 18:21 |
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guitarzan | patrickeast: is that a real account? | 18:22 |
patrickeast | guitarzan: the internal tenant? | 18:22 |
guitarzan | yeah | 18:22 |
patrickeast | guitarzan: as-is it doesn’t actually have to be | 18:22 |
patrickeast | but it *can* be | 18:22 |
guitarzan | so you can't make rest calls | 18:22 |
guitarzan | gotcha | 18:22 |
patrickeast | yep | 18:22 |
guitarzan | well, if it's real you can make rest calls anyway :) | 18:23 |
patrickeast | which in some regards is nice, it limits how much damage can be done | 18:23 |
patrickeast | my first cut at the image cache had it as a real user which would do glance calls | 18:23 |
guitarzan | yeah, that's certainly interesting | 18:23 |
patrickeast | but it was pretty fragile | 18:23 |
patrickeast | and had a lot of limitations | 18:23 |
jgriffith | patrickeast: there ya go! | 18:26 |
jgriffith | patrickeast: thanks a lot for the details | 18:26 |
patrickeast | jgriffith: thanks | 18:26 |
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hemna | Swanson, was just saying that your array needs to be able to do it as well, is all. some can't. | 18:41 |
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Swanson | hemna: Well, we can attach to a volume from multiple servers. Not entirely certain the second server can be read/write. | 18:41 |
Swanson | hemna: not entirely certain one would want that. | 18:42 |
hemna | Swanson, I think that's what some folks desire out of it. | 18:42 |
hemna | The array needs to be able to export it and handle i/o from each attachment, but also the filesystem that's on the volume. | 18:42 |
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hemna | you can't use ext4 :) | 18:43 |
hemna | that's instant corruption | 18:43 |
earlephilhower | Swanson, hemna: One use case we see for multi-attach volumes is Oracle RAC. There's a locking layer Oracle DB puts on top for the DB to share volume access. | 18:43 |
earlephilhower | "ASM" | 18:43 |
hemna | earlephilhower, yah I believe that's part of the filesytem itself no ? | 18:43 |
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earlephilhower | hemna: Yes, built-in as part of Oracle clusters. ASM replaces any FS @ the OS level. | 18:44 |
e0ne | jgriffith, hemna: hi. will you have time today to discuss api for ironic integration/brick client? | 18:45 |
earlephilhower | Windows CSV (clustered shared volumes) also expect to share the same physical bits on disk, too. Virtual HA SQL Server instances/etc. would depend on this. | 18:47 |
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Swanson | hemna: earlephilhower It looks like we can do rw attach without making it a cluster. So it is up to anything underneath to handle locking and whatnot? | 19:08 |
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hemna | Swanson, yah, it'll be up to the filesystem to not corrupt itself :) | 19:08 |
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earlephilhower | hemna, Swanson: One issue w/multi-attach you're probably already fighting with is devnames. If two VMs on different hosts attach the LUN, no sweat. If two on the same host then what happens when one of those guys migrates and detaches the devnode you were using on the other VM...ugh. | 19:17 |
earlephilhower | Some sort of indirection or DB consistency checking needed to keep sanity, no? | 19:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Use real volume ID while backup import https://review.openstack.org/205248 | 19:19 |
openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Set real volume ID during the backup import call https://review.openstack.org/205248 | 19:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Fix backup metadata import missing fields https://review.openstack.org/183222 | 19:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Generic image-volume cache https://review.openstack.org/195795 | 20:04 |
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hemna | earlephilhower, the detach shouldn't happen in that case. | 20:19 |
hemna | the volume has a list of attachments, which will include 2 entries on the same host. | 20:20 |
hemna | dont' detach that. | 20:20 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Attach snapshot - driver only https://review.openstack.org/201249 | 20:25 |
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xyang1 | hemna: Hi, is os-brick nova patch ready to go? | 20:33 |
hemna | xyang1, I just pushed up a new version | 20:33 |
hemna | waiting for jenkins, et all | 20:33 |
xyang1 | hemna: ok, I see it now | 20:34 |
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openstackgerrit | ubaumann proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes bug in deletion of a non existing volume https://review.openstack.org/204702 | 20:41 |
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openstackgerrit | abhiram moturi proposed openstack/cinder: Enhance unit tests for zfssa drivers https://review.openstack.org/203895 | 21:03 |
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jungleboyj | thingee: You around? | 21:24 |
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thingee | jungleboyj: yes | 21:59 |
jungleboyj | thingee: Hey, I was talking to johnthetubaguy at the Nova mid-cycle meetup today. | 22:00 |
jungleboyj | thingee: We were talking about cross project interactions and kind-of came to the conclusion that having members from other teams at the meet-ups was helpful. | 22:01 |
jungleboyj | thingee: John isn't able to make it to FC but I was going to send a note to the ML inviting someone to join if they are able. | 22:01 |
thingee | jungleboyj: sure | 22:02 |
jungleboyj | Just wanted to give you a heads up. scottda said we have plenty of room. | 22:02 |
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jungleboyj | thingee: Cool. | 22:02 |
thingee | jungleboyj: fyi, I already spoke to john about why I did attend the meetup. it conflicted with oscon and already had commitments | 22:02 |
thingee | didn't attend* | 22:02 |
jungleboyj | thingee: Gotcha, wish I had known you were planning to and were unable. I would have tried to be there for more of it. | 22:03 |
jungleboyj | There wasn't a lot they needed from us, but I think we are likely to benefit more from someone from Nova attending given the challenges we are seeing. | 22:03 |
thingee | jungleboyj: the midcycle meetup knowledge is public knowledge. if it's important to you, you don't have follow my lead to attend. | 22:03 |
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thingee | ;) | 22:04 |
jungleboyj | thingee: :-) Fair enough. I have been busy fighting other battles here. :-) | 22:04 |
thingee | jungleboyj: someday I will be to talk about what has been taking up my time. | 22:05 |
thingee | jungleboyj: it's not company related though | 22:05 |
thingee | jungleboyj: if it was, that would irresponsible in this role. | 22:05 |
jungleboyj | thingee: Ooooh. Does it involve btopol? | 22:06 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 22:06 |
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jungleboyj | thingee: Thanks for the info. Gotta drop of for now. Look forward to seeing you in FC if we don't talk before then. | 22:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Implement retype for Pure drivers https://review.openstack.org/205318 | 23:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Support clone_image from Glance cinder backend https://review.openstack.org/205320 | 23:07 |
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