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| openstackgerrit | Xi Yang proposed openstack/cinder: Snap copy feature for EMC VNX Cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/184733 | 03:22 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: Let me know what you want from ceph... | 04:57 |
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| DuncanT | swamireddy: I got sorted on the Ceph channel, thanks. My problem was a size/min_size bigger than my osd count | 05:23 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: Cool... | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Volume status management during migration https://review.openstack.org/186312 | 06:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Adds the migration progress support for migration https://review.openstack.org/204953 | 06:18 |
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| kjelly | Hi guys, I am working on the bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1475285 . I found that the function which is used for generating the resposne for “cinder extra-specs-list” api is VolumeTypeActionController.index . So it never check the policy, "share_extension:types_extra_specs": "rule:admin_api" . What is the response “cinder extra-specs-list” expects ? | 06:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475285 in Manila "Non-admin user can perform 'extra-specs-list'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to jelly (coding1314) | 06:26 |
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| kjelly | Should “cinder extra-specs-list” call VolumeTypeExtraSpecsController.index instead of VolumeTypeActionController.index? | 06:30 |
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| kjelly | scottda: Hi, I add bug 1477625 issue and the possible solutions to cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup agenda. Please help me review it. Thank you. | 06:34 |
| openstack | bug 1477625 in Cinder "DB access to show volumes may not be properly controlled" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477625 - Assigned to jelly (coding1314) | 06:34 |
| kjelly | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup | 06:34 |
| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Enhance deletion efficiency when backup init host https://review.openstack.org/206359 | 06:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Improve performance listing detail for volumes https://review.openstack.org/203530 | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/cinder: Validate name and description string https://review.openstack.org/182994 | 06:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/cinder: Validate string, integer limit for input parameter https://review.openstack.org/194968 | 06:59 |
| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Improve performance listing detail for volumes https://review.openstack.org/203530 | 07:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add hypermetro support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/202023 | 07:11 |
| openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add SmartX support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/188732 | 07:13 |
| openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume migration support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201406 | 07:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | liuxinguo proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume retype support for Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/201485 | 07:20 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: I have a Q related with Ceph... | 07:21 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: If we upgrade the Ceph to new version (ex: Gaint -> hammer), do we need to upgrade the Cinderś librdb to a new version as Ceph is using? | 07:22 |
| swamireddy | DuncanT: Any thoughts about it? | 07:22 |
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| svilgelm | Hi, Could anyone review my patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199537/ | 07:37 |
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| DuncanT | swamireddy: I've no experience of Ceph back compatibility policy, but if it was me I'd certainly upgrade the libs cinder is using too | 07:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lin Yang proposed openstack/cinder: Fix incorrect status comparison when doing backup https://review.openstack.org/208356 | 08:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add to_dict method to Resource class https://review.openstack.org/207340 | 08:19 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: ok..no issues. will confirm this... | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Add pagination to backups https://review.openstack.org/204493 | 08:20 |
| swamireddy | DuncanT: if we change the libs, is it cinder services need to restart? | 08:22 |
| DuncanT | Cinder-volume will need to be restarted | 08:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hai-Xu Cheng proposed openstack/cinder: Add two lines of code https://review.openstack.org/208369 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Forbid creating volume from image which size is 0 https://review.openstack.org/207696 | 08:49 |
| openstackgerrit | david liu proposed openstack/cinder: Add new packages https://review.openstack.org/208372 | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hai-Xu Cheng proposed openstack/cinder: Add two lines of code https://review.openstack.org/208369 | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Show image metadata https://review.openstack.org/208380 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMADA Hideki proposed openstack/cinder: Add backup/restore methods to Sheepdog driver https://review.openstack.org/162927 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lin Yang proposed openstack/cinder: Fix status comparison for attached volume backup https://review.openstack.org/208356 | 09:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Change inventory folder hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/193095 | 10:17 |
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| ub | hi. Did i miss something? the bugfix don't get merged. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204702/ | 10:44 |
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| dulek | ub: I think you should comment with "reverify" there to trigger gate checks. | 10:48 |
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| dulek | ub: http://zqfan.github.io/openstack/2014/01/03/what-should-i-do-when-jenkins-fails/ | 10:48 |
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| ub | dulek: i will try it. thanks | 11:03 |
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| scottda | kjelly: I'll discuss Bug 1477625 . How late are you in the office? Will you be able to use Google Hangout to participate in the mid-cycle this week (or at least when we discuss this?) | 12:31 |
| openstack | bug 1477625 in Cinder "DB access to show volumes may not be properly controlled" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477625 - Assigned to jelly (coding1314) | 12:31 |
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| dulek | ub: I don't get it. Your patch has +1 on workflow, but your reverify got it into check queue instead of gate queue... That's strange. | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor api.v2.volumes unit tests https://review.openstack.org/208460 | 12:37 |
| ub | dulek: what can i do? | 12:38 |
| dulek | ub: I've had similar situation, but reverify did the job. Take a look here: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ (filtering by your review ID - 204702) and see if after the check patch will move to gate queue. | 12:40 |
| dulek | ub: If not then I think you should ping one of the cores. | 12:41 |
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| kjelly | scottda: I am sorry that I am not good at speaking in english. | 12:44 |
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| kjelly | scottda: I am UTC+8. | 12:46 |
| phil___ | hey has anyone had issues with the cinder-volume service being state down? im on a source installation from master branch | 12:47 |
| scottda | kjelly: It's ok. I'll talk through the bug. I thought you might want to at least listen in. Anyway, we'll be posting a link for google hangout here in IRC Cinder channel for all the discussions at the mid-cycle | 12:49 |
| scottda | They hours are approximately 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM MountainDaylightTime which is UTC - 6:00 . So that is 15:00 to 23:00 UTC | 12:51 |
| scottda | ub: You can also ping the infra room. It might be something they know about or can help with. | 12:52 |
| kjelly | scottda: Ok. | 12:52 |
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| kjelly | scottda: Thank you for your helping. | 12:53 |
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| kjelly | scottda: date August 4-7th, four days ? | 12:55 |
| scottda | yes, 4 days. | 12:55 |
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| ub | I talked to the Infra. Can a core-reviewer add a Workflow+1? maybe the event got lost on the 29th when they were struggling with a bug in zuul. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204702/ | 13:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty (deepakcs) proposed openstack/cinder: db: Add support for snapshot_admin_metadata https://review.openstack.org/203979 | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Revert "Revert First version of Cinder driver for Quobyte" https://review.openstack.org/208528 | 15:19 |
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| DuncanT | I'm not going to make the mid-cycle :-( I'll have to remote in | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | abhiram moturi proposed openstack/cinder: Fix PEP476 & format message of Oracle ZFSSA drivers https://review.openstack.org/197736 | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | abhiram moturi proposed openstack/cinder: Enhance unit tests for zfssa drivers https://review.openstack.org/203895 | 15:30 |
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| Swanson | Any hope of getting this one crammed into stable/kilo? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206615/ | 15:31 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: I've not got +2 on stable, sorry. People are travelling for the mid-cycle meetup today so may be slow to respond | 15:33 |
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| thingee | DuncanT: that's too bad. I've been learning east coast swing | 15:33 |
| DuncanT | thingee: Nooooooooooooooooooooo | 15:33 |
| DuncanT | thingee: I'm in visa hell and HP beaurocracy hell, unfortunately | 15:33 |
| Swanson | DuncanT: Thanks. | 15:34 |
| DuncanT | thingee: There's a good swing group in Fort Colins, and I'll be dancing in Tokyo | 15:34 |
| thingee | DuncanT: I might be in better shape for tokyo anyways. | 15:34 |
| thingee | DuncanT: its been going slow because I've been learning both lead and follow. | 15:35 |
| DuncanT | thingee: Nice. I oonly started to learn to follow recently - I think it's good to learn both | 15:36 |
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| DuncanT | thingee: I follow Balboa and Charlston not disasterously badly... still working on east-coast and lindy following, should be better by tokyo though | 15:37 |
| thingee | DuncanT: I'm curious how universal the moves and signals are. | 15:37 |
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| DuncanT | thingee: All of the basics work pretty much all over the world | 15:38 |
| e0ne | DuncanT, thingee: will we have hangout for mid-cycle? | 15:39 |
| thingee | e0ne: we always do | 15:39 |
| DuncanT | e0ne: There will be one, yes | 15:39 |
| e0ne | DuncanT, thingee: great, thanks! | 15:39 |
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| DuncanT | thingee: My tip for swing, particularly following, is slick shoes | 15:40 |
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| scottda | kjelly: huyang: liuxg: chenzongliang: I see you are signed up for the cinder mid-cycle.... | 15:47 |
| scottda | But are you going to be physically present here in Fort Collins, Colorado? | 15:47 |
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| yuriy_n17 | eharney: Hi! Please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175809/ | 15:55 |
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| ub2 | I talked to the Infra. Can a core-reviewer add a Workflow+1? maybe the event got lost on the 29th when they were struggling with a bug in zuul. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204702/ | 16:16 |
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| prometheanfire | is it safe to say that cinder no longer requires iscsitarget and can be fully reliant on tgt instead? | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | same for nova accessing cinder I guess... | 16:19 |
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| vlaza | ping thingee | 16:49 |
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| pv_ | quick question, how do you go about debugging nova attach-volume? my attach-volume gives me a /dev/vdb device output when i run it.. but when I go look into the /dev/ directory in the instance vdb doesnt exist | 17:24 |
| pv_ | also the fdisk -l command doesnt return anything | 17:24 |
| pv_ | im going through the nova and cinder logs for my driver and i cant seem to see any errors, although the attach request seems to be showing up in c-api, it doesnt go through all the way to c-vol.log | 17:25 |
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| pv_ | any help | 17:25 |
| pv_ | is appreciated | 17:25 |
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| guitarzan | pv_: does nova think it actually succeded? | 17:25 |
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| pv_ | yeah nova seems to think it succeeded, hence the device output i'm guessing | 17:26 |
| guitarzan | pv_: although not seeing anything in c-vol is interesting I think | 17:26 |
| guitarzan | well, that's just from the api right? not compute | 17:26 |
| pv_ | yeah its just from the api probably | 17:26 |
| pv_ | --+ | Property | Value | +----------+--------------------------------------+ | device | /dev/vdb | | id | 34caa407-7329-456b-ac14-cc7498022168 | | serverId | 9f0738bc-b469-4274-a00c-31a6ce3e72cd | | volumeId | 34caa407-7329-456b-ac14-cc7498022168 | | 17:26 |
| pv_ | to start out, im not even sure the workflow it follows when making a volume-attach request | 17:27 |
| pv_ | like i dont know what to look for in the logs to see if its running properly or not | 17:27 |
| thingee | vlaza: hi yes | 17:27 |
| guitarzan | pv_: a simple thing is to just grep that req-id in your compute logs | 17:28 |
| guitarzan | pv_: another easy thing to check is to look for an iscsi connection on your compute host | 17:28 |
| pv_ | this is a dumb question but compute logs are n-cpu | 17:29 |
| pv_ | ?* | 17:29 |
| guitarzan | yeah | 17:29 |
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| pv_ | kk lemme check the req id in it | 17:31 |
| thingee | xyang, hemnafk what's going on here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207677/ | 17:31 |
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| thingee | vlaza: The channels are logged. any talk on CI I want out in the open for people to see. | 17:35 |
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| thingee | vlaza: that's why I prefer to not do them via private messages | 17:35 |
| vlaza | thingee: We stabilized the Microsoft Cinder-CI ; we had hidden hardware issues and the guys in DC fixed them | 17:35 |
| thingee | vlaza: great, do some runs on some recent patches and ping me the results. | 17:36 |
| thingee | vlaza: thanks | 17:36 |
| vlaza | It's the 1st time I am requesting an account unlock so I was unsure how to proceed | 17:36 |
| vlaza | sorry about pinging you on private | 17:36 |
| vlaza | I will return with the results | 17:36 |
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| anish | anyone else seeing problems with gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-os-brick ? | 17:38 |
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| anish | recheck is suddenly going from success to 107 failures | 17:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Add Cinder API WSGI app to run under Apache/Nginx https://review.openstack.org/200551 | 17:44 |
| vilobhmm | jungleboyj : ping | 17:45 |
| vilobhmm | jgriffith : ping | 17:45 |
| pv_ | so my compute log said attach failed and the traceback gives me ClientException: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-3f0ffed4-2ba5-41fe-9942-6c490f0833f1) | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sonia Ghanekar proposed openstack/cinder: Update snap-quota to unlimited in Nimble driver. https://review.openstack.org/208573 | 17:46 |
| guitarzan | pv_: you should be able to find that request in the cinder logs too | 17:46 |
| guitarzan | pv_: not the same request id though, sadly | 17:47 |
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| guitarzan | but whatever threw that client exception should show something interesting in your cinder logs | 17:47 |
| pv_ | hmm alright ill go check out my cinder logs as well | 17:48 |
| vilobhmm | jgriffith, jungleboyj : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206170/4 has couple of +1 and +2 if you find it ok will end up going through rebase cycles… | 17:48 |
| vilobhmm | smcginnis : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205369/ - Nested Quota Driver and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206171/8 - Get hierarchy | 17:49 |
| vlaza | thingee: the stats for Microsoft Cinder-CI -> http://pastebin.com/eK0GLRUJ ; please let me know if you would like also links in the format: http://64.119.130.115/<patch>/<set>/cinder/ | 17:53 |
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| thingee | vlaza_away: thank you. my flight is about to land, but I'll check it out later when I have a chance after travel. | 18:08 |
| thingee | vlaza_away: I've added it to my list of things to do | 18:08 |
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| vlaza_away | thingee: thank you ; I will be around later if further info is needed | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony Lee proposed openstack/cinder: Add multipath support to 3PAR iSCSI driver https://review.openstack.org/180779 | 18:17 |
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| Adriano__ | Hi... Anyone from VMWare? | 18:30 |
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| vilobhmm | xyang1 : ping | 18:39 |
| svilgelm | Could anyone review, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199537/ | 18:39 |
| svilgelm | I've fixed all remarks | 18:39 |
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| jdandrea | Scheduler plugin question: If I understand correctly, these plugins can each be assigned a weight to aid in determining "which one wins" (yes/no/sorta?). | 18:56 |
| jdandrea | If so, is there a way for a given plugin to either pass on its vote per se, or if it WANTS to vote, to be "winner take all" in that regard (e.g., have such a high weight that it always wins)? | 18:56 |
| jdandrea | (cross-posted to nova; asking for both nova and cinder separately) | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joseph Vokt proposed openstack/cinder: Adding client CPG stats to driver volume stats https://review.openstack.org/200737 | 18:57 |
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| vilobhmm | smcginnis : you around ? | 19:12 |
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| Adriano__ | Can anyone pls review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197999/ | 19:38 |
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| Swanson | Adriano__: I think just about everyone who can +2 you are in transit to the mid cycle meeting. FYI | 19:44 |
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| Adriano__ | Swanson: thanks for the info :) | 19:51 |
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| anish | anyone know the tox commands to run gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-os-brick locally ? | 20:07 |
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| asselin_ | anish, probably something like this: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L686 | 20:15 |
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| asselin_ | the os-brick part just means you need to pip install the dev version of os-brick you care about | 20:16 |
| asselin_ | similarly the neutron part means you've locally setup devstack to use neutron | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add multiple pools support to VMAX driver https://review.openstack.org/189990 | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add multiple pools support to VMAX driver https://review.openstack.org/189990 | 20:17 |
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| anish | asselin_: thanks, I will give that a try | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joseph Vokt proposed openstack/cinder: Adding client CPG stats to driver volume stats https://review.openstack.org/200737 | 20:34 |
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| anish | hemna: welp | 20:47 |
| hemna | ? | 20:47 |
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| anish | hemna: jenkins went from passing to 107 failures. trying to figure out if it's the patch or something else | 20:47 |
| hemna | I don't know what you are talking about | 20:48 |
| hemna | I've been offline for 3 days | 20:48 |
| hemna | bbiab | 20:48 |
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| Swanson | asselin_:smcginnis suggested I ask you if there is a preferred guide or any such thing for setting up a CI. Saw this... http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/openstackci.htm | 21:20 |
| asselin_ | Swanson, yes, working on that now, but not done yet. In the meantime, my repo is quite close to the disred end-goal: https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing | 21:21 |
| Swanson | asselin_: Oh, neat. I'll take a look at that. Looks more idiot proof than anything else I've seen. | 21:23 |
| asselin_ | maybe most idiot proof, but still far from. | 21:24 |
| asselin_ | I think we can get there once we've got the common solution setup | 21:24 |
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| hemna | xyang, ping | 21:44 |
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| anish | hemna: I was referring to these http://logs.openstack.org/51/193451/12/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-os-brick/f18bef5/console.html | 22:09 |
| hemna | looks like a lot of nova failures | 22:11 |
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| anish | yeah, wasn't sure where to go with those | 22:12 |
| anish | also no idea how to followup with purestorage, is there someone I can talk to here ? | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Joseph Vokt proposed openstack/cinder: Adding client CPG stats to driver volume stats https://review.openstack.org/200737 | 22:17 |
| hemna | anish, patrickeast works at pure | 22:17 |
| hemna | he may be traveling to the meetup tomorrow | 22:17 |
| anish | thanks, will wait for the meetup to be over | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: Add connector object to create_export https://review.openstack.org/202808 | 22:23 |
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| patrickeast | anyone around in fort collins and want to meet up for beers and/or food this evening? | 22:24 |
| prometheanfire | not sure if this belongs in cinder or nova, but the log starts in cinder so I'll start there | 22:28 |
| prometheanfire | 2015-08-03 22:21:08.836 6046 ERROR cinder.volume.targets.iscsi [req-b9a54904-5753-4c2a-9048-ac309c548774 436901ce457c4aea9be27f45982e0a7d e88db48bc6f0406593d0fcb8b648babe - - -] The volume driver requires the iSCSI initiator name in the connector. | 22:28 |
| prometheanfire | I'm trying to nova boot a volume and keep getting failures | 22:28 |
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| Apoorva | Guys, thoughts on this one. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206296/ | 22:34 |
| anish | patrickeast: speak of the devil ! I need to talk to you about some purestorage CI failures when you're back from the meetup | 22:34 |
| patrickeast | anish: sounds good | 22:35 |
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| anish | Apoorva: you're gonna have a tough time with that one | 22:56 |
| anish | iirc, cinder is okay with that | 22:57 |
| anish | but nova is not | 22:57 |
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| anish | the end argument was there is no way to enforce the order of arguments to assertEqual | 22:57 |
| smcginnis | anish: Apoorva That is the problem with it. We can't write a hacking check to make sure it doesn't happen again. | 22:58 |
| smcginnis | Apoorva: But that said, removing incorrect instances of it reduces the chance that someone will just copy paste what is there and do it wrong some more. | 22:58 |
| smcginnis | Apoorva: We are always pointing it out in reviews. | 22:58 |
| smcginnis | Apoorva: If there are better examples in the existing code then it might not happen as often. | 22:59 |
| anish | what he said ^ | 22:59 |
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| smcginnis | anish: ;) | 22:59 |
| anish | Apoorva: though I don't quite get why you've added newlines where none were required | 23:00 |
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| anish | Apoorva: in some places you do the opposite of that | 23:01 |
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| patrickeast_ | cebruns: hey a few of us are meeting up in the lobby if you wanna join us | 23:32 |
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| cebruns | patrickeast_: cool, you heading out now? | 23:34 |
| anish | hitting one of the many many breweries in fort collins I hope | 23:34 |
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