Friday, 2016-01-08

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Enable consisgroups in SolidFire driver
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Implement v2 replication (managed)
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged)
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openstackgerritVasanthi Thirumalai proposed openstack/cinder: Removes the Violin 6000 FC and iSCSI drivers
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mriedemhow long has multiattach been in the cinder api?02:35
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openstackgerritchenzongliang proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Refactor driver for the second time
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openstackgerritThang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Add finish_volume_migration to volume object
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jgriffithhemnafk: ping04:46
jgriffithmriedem: About a year04:49
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openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Use the oslo.utils.reflection to extract the class name
jgriffithvinayp: Ahh... I see what hemnafk is asking for here, makes sense.  Refactor those checks you added up into the base class (InitiatorConnector) to ensure the lun number is checked/converted regardless of which connector type is being used.05:03
jgriffithvinayp: not sure it's applicable to anything but iSCSI and FC but regardless05:03
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jgriffithvinayp: also to avoid confusion WRT the regex, you might want to consider just using something like "if '0x' in lun:  ....."05:04
jgriffithvinayp: the bug, and comments in the code seemed clear enough but meh... fair enough05:04
jgriffithvinayp: also, you'll need to work on the commit message....05:04
jgriffithvinayp: have a look at this page:
openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove openstack-common.conf
jgriffithDOH and gerrit is no longer available for me05:06
openstackgerritYatin Kumbhare proposed openstack/cinder: Use assertTrue/False instead of assertEqual(T/F)
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
hunters1094are there anyone here?06:51
hunters1094I have some problem with cinder encryption06:51
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hunters1094hi all07:51
hunters1094are there anyone here?07:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove API races from delete methods
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openstackgerritting wang proposed openstack/cinder: Trivial: replace deprecated _impl_messaging
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openstackgerritYusuke Hayashi proposed openstack/cinder: Add Fujitsu ETERNUS DX Volume Driver (FC part)
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openstackgerritSzymon Borkowski proposed openstack/cinder: Update copy_volume_to_image to use volume object
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chhaviildikov: I have a question on the
ildikovchhavi: hi, shoot11:28
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chhaviblock_device_mapping_get_by_volume_id() Line 403011:28
chhaviHere currently we are picking first() but if the volume is shared then we might expect multiple BDM entries11:29
chhaviwhich is valid11:29
ildikovwhat you miss there is that the search includes the instance_uuid11:30
ildikovwhich identifies the BDM, there should not be more11:30
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ildikovthere's a problem though with BDM uniqueness, but that's a generic issue11:30
chhavisorry i mean line 404111:30
ildikovyeah, in that case that's true11:31
chhaviwhere user wants BDMs by volume_id11:31
ildikovthat's an existing function I cannot modify it11:31
ildikovthe solution here is not call it if possible11:31
openstackgerritSzymon Borkowski proposed openstack/cinder: Update terminate_connection to use volume object
ildikovthe only function it uses it and where we dont have instance_uuid in place is create_volume_snapshot11:31
ildikovthat's disabled for now with multiattach volumes11:32
chhaviin that case i think it will be good to add a new query to get_all11:32
ildikovnew query?11:32
chhaviyes, block_device_mapping_get_all_by_volume_id11:33
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ildikovwhere would you use it?11:34
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chhaviit can be used to identify if the volume is shared or not11:36
chhaviif multiple entries that means volume is already attached11:36
ildikovnot necessarily, there are race issues in the code11:36
ildikovI use the volume info in every case for that11:36
ildikovthat's the let's say ultimate source of truth11:37
ildikovas I said BDM uniqueness is not a solved problem today, there are patches up for review for it, but they'r enot merged yet11:37
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX: Replication V2 support(managed)
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chhaviildikov: BDM uniqueness, means ?11:58
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chhaviildikov: For a particular instance there will always be a single BDM,11:59
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ildikovchhavi: I haven't checked the flow or how the db record is generated, the patch I meant is here:
jordanP#success My 3rd party CI correctly warned me that a patch would break my driver12:09
openstackstatusjordanP: Added success to Success page12:09
ildikovchhavi: either case the volume should be a good source for information12:10
chhavithat will involve a cinder api call from nova12:11
openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX: Replication V2 support(managed)
ildikovchhavi: I know, but the multiattach flag is stored only in the volume for instance, so that's required anyway12:14
ildikovchhavi: on the other hand a volume can be attached to a host too, not just to a VM instance12:15
chhaviildikov: I will check the details of this patch, but high level what i see its majorly focused when we upgrade12:15
ildikovI know it came up regarding one of my patches12:15
chhaviildikov: whether volume is attached to the host or to the instance, BDM for an instance will be unique.12:16
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chhaviFor example: if a single volume is attached to multiple instances each having their own BDMs then this should return all the BDM entries12:16
ildikovchhavi: but does not tell the information correctly about a volume still in the sense of it is already attached or not12:16
chhavisince previously we do not support shared volume it was meant to return a single entry12:17
chhaviildikov: If there is a BDM entry having the volume-id, it means that instance is attached to the BDM.12:18
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chhaviDuring volume detach we update the BDM info12:18
ildikovI got it, but still I need the volume info anyway, therefore it's better to check that if the data is there anyway12:22
chhaviildikov: remove_volume_connection:
chhavihere we are using this12:24
ildikovsee John's comment at line 4048:
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ildikovchhavi: I got it, but I still don't see the value at this stage of that extra function, also that call you referred will return only one BDM in any case12:26
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ildikovchhavi: there's also a this check and note here:, I wonder what case it was needed for12:28
ildikovanyway, what you're saying could be an optimization if we could save one round trip with it, but we can't12:29
ildikovBDM is very fragile in Nova12:29
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chhaviildikov: I need to check more details on the same, because i did not see any such behavior for BDM till now12:37
chhavithe one u mentioned stands only when we upgrade,12:37
chhavilet me go through the details of the BDM change set shared for more clarity12:37
chhaviildikov: thanks for sharing this info12:38
ildikovchhavi: I'm not experienced enough, I can only rely on the concerns of the cores12:38
ildikovI mean in Nova12:38
ildikovwhat you suggest can be done later, when we get there to optimize12:38
chhaviyeah i understand, me too learning updated the review comments to hear some more inputs from john on the same.12:39
ildikovthe non-priority feature freeze for Nova is Jan 21, so until that I fix only what's critical and I'm still afraid even a mimum setup will not make it again :(12:39
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openstackgerritPhilipp Marek proposed openstack/cinder: Infrastructure to use the DRBD transport for NOVA.
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openstackgerritSzymon Borkowski proposed openstack/cinder: Update accept_transfer to use volume object
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove duplicate keys from dictionary
smcginnisjordanP|away: +1 :)14:31
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jgriffithmriedem: sent you a response but you weren't actually here14:43
jgriffithmriedem: multi-attach in Cinder about a year ago14:43
mriedemok so it got into kilo14:44
mriedemwas just wondering if like a mitaka nova would be talking to a juno cinder14:44
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Report discard support for Dell SC connections
mriedemildikov: ^ is there anything about the nova multiattach spec that would be impacted by that?14:46
jgriffithmriedem: ha!14:46
jgriffithmriedem: all I have to say is "ha"14:46
mriedemi know it sounds crazy...14:46
mriedembut isn't rax running with a really old cinder or something?14:46
guitarzanmriedem: yes14:47
mriedemhow old?14:47
ildikovmriedem: you mean compatibility?14:47
jgriffithmriedem: I used to worry about that14:47
guitarzanif nova breaks, we'll just fix our stuff :)14:47
jgriffithand even try it... but our library dep chain has made me realize that trying to do that usually results in bigger problems14:47
ildikovmriedem: my opinion is that it's not that rabbit hole I would like to go down to14:47
jgriffithand once you throw in Glance and Keystone.... "forget about it"14:47
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ildikovin the sense of aiming to support that kind of version differences14:48
ildikovthat would kill any kind of cross-project development IMHO14:48
guitarzanildikov: in the past the answer has just been simply "don't change the contract"14:48
mriedemsounds like it employs a lot of engineers at rackspace though :)14:48
jgriffithmriedem: but yeah, I think the way that code has been written it "may" create an issue in that scenario14:49
jgriffithmriedem: I don't quite know why the code couldn't be implemented to handle either way though14:49
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jgriffithmriedem: shouldn't be that hard I wouldn't think14:49
smcginnisWasn't there a cross project statement to only support N-1?14:50
mriedemif there was, i don't know that the ops abide by it14:50
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mriedemthere are threads in the ops list right now about disjointed releases of components working together14:50
mriedemmore for keystone though14:50
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jgriffithmriedem: yeah, good luck with that14:51
jgriffithGlance chose to be a snowflake14:51
guitarzanthat's because keystone seems to like changing their interface14:51
jgriffithso did keystone14:51
ildikovjgriffith: what are you referring to here: "but yeah, I think the way that code has been written it "may" create an issue in that scenario", I might miss some context here14:52
jgriffithanybody that says "yeah you can do that" either:14:52
jgriffitha. hasn't actually tried it14:52
jgriffithb. has folks patching code internally to make it work14:52
jgriffithhell, I can barely get glance to work with n == n any more :(14:52
guitarzanglance v1 forever14:52
jgriffithbecause they don't understand what an API interface is apparantly14:52
jgriffithguitarzan: +114:53
jgriffithmriedem: sounds like Nova's getting ready to punt on the multi-attach again then?14:54
ildikovuser facing things are tough :(14:54
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johnthetubaguyits in review, just we are not really converging right now :(14:54
jgriffithmriedem: kinda need to know cuz if that's the case I'd prefer not to waste cycles in M writing anything for it in Cinder :)14:54
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: got ya14:54
mriedemjgriffith: no, i was just asking14:54
mriedemjgriffith: i was reviewing the nova spec last night14:55
mriedemsince i never reviewed it the first time before it was approved14:55
jgriffithmriedem: ahhh, I see14:55
johnthetubaguymriedem brought up some good new points the other day, but I think ildikov has mostly patched those, or was about to14:56
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: yes, I did14:56
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i raised a concern about minimum required libvirt in the amended spec change last night too14:56
mriedemi'd like danpb to weigh in on that14:56
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: cool, so we need to figure out a better model for Cinder/Nova at some point I think.14:56
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: the only thing I'm playing with now is the libvirt version check14:56
johnthetubaguyildikov: mriedem: was there a boot from volume thing that needed sorting out, or were we happy about that now?14:56
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: we're a bit too "loose" on our side at times I think, and there are more complex relationships between the two these days that make these changes a pain14:57
jgriffith"our side" == "cinder"14:57
ildikovjgriffith: when the spec landed we agreed to have a working version even with more limitations and then refactor later, where possible to have smt more optimal than now14:57
jgriffithildikov: hey... don't get me wrong, not negative comments about what you and everybody else have done14:58
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: it's disabled, when the volume allows multiattach and it's set boot_index=0 in the BDM dict14:58
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jgriffithildikov: I was just thinking out loud that we should do something more organized in our API's between Cinder/Nova in the future to make these sorts of things go smoother, and address some of the compat issues that mriedem just pointed out14:58
ildikovjgriffith: sorry, I spent too much time with it in the past few weeks and on the other hand I also see it's not a straight forward activity in any sense14:59
jgriffithildikov: I hear ya14:59
ildikovjgriffith: yeah, I think I or someone else addig this topic to the mid-cycle too to have a cross-project discussion about this14:59
johnthetubaguyjgriffith: we are having similar "coupling" struggles with neutron APIs in a similar way, things like brick and os-vif-lib are helping some, but I think we probably need to go a bit further, but the fact we are talking about it these days gives me hope :)14:59
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jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: YES15:00
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: +1 :)15:00
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: the fact that it's even a topic is certainly great progress IMO15:00
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johnthetubaguyjgriffith: as with most things, what makes it hard right now is continuing to support live upgrades, etc, at the same time as evolving, but yeah, its on the radar now15:01
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: certainly wasn't a criticism, just a note that there's a real pain point that we're starting to hit more often and admit to, so might be interesting to get together in a room in Austin and brain-storm on some ideas15:01
johnthetubaguyjgriffith: +115:01
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jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: don't get me started on live-upgrades :)15:01
johnthetubaguyjgriffith: heh15:02
ildikovmriedem: I fixed your comments in the spec amendment BTW15:02
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johnthetubaguyildikov: you got the link for that spec change?15:02
ildikovmriedem: and as I said the code is missing only the libvirt version check15:02
johnthetubaguyildikov: sweet, thank you15:03
mriedemildikov: ok, i haven't read your reply yet15:03
mriedemi have to get stable/kilo working today first15:03
ildikovmriedem: sure, no probs15:04
scottdawhile on the subject, johnthetubaguy should we have a hangout during the Cinder/Nova mid-cycle week a the end of the month? Perhaps just to bring up subjects like multi-attach, API changes, etc and keep the conversation going? or is that too vague of an agenda?15:05
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smcginnisscottda, johnthetubaguy: We should block a time that we can link up the two midcycles.15:10
smcginnisscottda, johnthetubaguy: Having time blocked off at the design summit was useful IMO.15:10
ildikovsmcginnis: +115:10
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy, ildikov: Is there an agenda set for the nova midcycle yet?15:11
johnthetubaguysmcginnis: thats a good idea, how do we want to connect? via IRC?15:11
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Either IRC, or I know we will have a Google hangout.15:11
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: or Hangouts maybe?15:11
johnthetubaguysmcginnis: not really, we have an etherpad:
smcginnisThe hangout would be nice to have it a little more face-to-face.15:12
johnthetubaguyits just hang out for a room to another room can really suck, but we can try it15:12
johnthetubaguycan always augment that with IRC I guess15:12
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Sure, we can give it a shot and fail back to IRC if needed.15:12
scottdaLet's give hangout a try.15:12
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: We don't have a set agenda yet either:
johnthetubaguywould tuesday morning NC, afternoon UK work15:13
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Or Wednesday?15:13
scottdaPeople can use irc at the same time to make sure their point gets across.15:13
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Just thinking we start Tuesday morning, so that might be too soon to jump right in to cross-project discussion.15:13
scottdaWed is probably better15:13
smcginnisIt might be better to have a day to "get our house in order" before we do it.15:14
johnthetubaguysmcginnis: good point, I meant wednesday, oops15:14
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Throw in timezones and everything gets more difficult. ;)15:14
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: That sounds good. We'll reserve Wednesday morning for Nova discussions.15:14
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scottdaI'll make sure it's known at the next meeting for both teams15:15
smcginnisscottda: Thanks!15:15
johnthetubaguysmcginnis: cool, added that into our etherpad, lets try for tht15:17
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Perfect!15:17
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Roamer`hmm, I know it's kind of close to the deadline, but could somebody take a quick look at - reintroducing the StorPool driver?15:18
smcginnisRoamer`: What is the status of the CI for StorPool?15:19
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Roamer`smcginnis, it's mostly operational, running in silent mode15:20
smcginnisRoamer`: What is your plan to enable it?15:21
Roamer`smcginnis, I thought I'd ask somebody from Cinder to check it out and let -infra know that it should be reenabled today, but something else happened: I've been talking to the guys in -infra about a problem with another CI that killed my Zuul15:21
Roamer`smcginnis, there's a third-party CI that is sending comments in a loop to and our CI is not handling it very well, it can't get a word in edgewise15:22
Roamer`smcginnis, right now yolanda in #openstack-infra is trying to fix that... after that, our CI should start picking up on new Gerrit events again15:22
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smcginnisRoamer`: OK, we'll need to see that up and reliable reporting before your driver can be accepted.15:23
smcginnisRoamer`: My recommendation is to make that your top priority.15:23
Roamer`smcginnis, fair enough15:23
openstackgerritKazumasa Nomura proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor Hitachi Block Storage Driver
Roamer`smcginnis, thanks15:24
smcginnisRoamer`: No problem. Good luck!15:24
smcginnisrhe00: ping15:24
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor Windows drivers using os-win
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rhedlindsmcginnis: I'm online now16:02
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smcginnisrhedlind: Great, saw your other comments. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of what was going on.16:04
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mtaninosmcginnis: Hi, May I add trivial feature(without BP or spec which I asked you in previous) on the bottom of tracking?
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Fix tox -e fast8
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smcginnismtanino: Yeah, that should be fine.16:08
mtaninosmcginnis: Thanks :)16:08
smcginnismtanino: No problem.16:08
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Swansonxyang, Thanks for kicking off the receck on the Dell replication v2 patch. Seems to have run through fine the second time.16:15
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xyangSwanson: np, I'll take a look16:17
Swansonxyang, Thanks for the reviews on that.16:18
xyangSwanson: you are welcome16:18
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Add missing glance_metadata field to Snapshot
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jgriffithdulek: ping16:31
dulekjgriffith: Pong16:31
jgriffithdulek: hey... do you understand the purpose of all this glance_image_metadata ?16:32
dulekjgriffith: I believe I do. What's up?16:32
jgriffithdulek: well, I've never understood:16:33
jgriffith1. Where the explosion of all these metadata entries came from :(16:33
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jgriffith2. What purpose they serve16:33
jgriffithdulek: I posted a comment here:
jgriffithfor example, grep cinder and glance and there's no direct usage of that info at all16:33
jgriffithI know HP public cloud wanted it for some billing stuff16:34
jgriffithbut given they don't exist anymore does anybody else care?16:34
dulekjgriffith: Riiight… Let me try to help with that.16:34
jgriffithand FWIW I never quite followed the logic when they argued for it either16:34
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dulekSo metadata are used internally to do a lot of things.16:34
dulekFor example metadata on flavor can express hardware requirements.16:35
dulekYou can also set a lot of metadata on images in Glance.16:35
dulekThese are used for example when booting a VM directly from an image.16:35
dulekLet me find an example…16:35
jgriffithdulek: used by Nova?16:36
jgriffithdulek: here's the thing that's always bugged me....16:36
dulekThat's an example.16:36
jgriffithdulek: we have:  volume_metadata, volume_admin_metadata, volume_glance_metadata, snapshot_metadata, snapshot_glance_metadata, service_metadata....16:37
jgriffithIt's a bit out of control IMHO16:37
hemnacan we get metadata_metadata ?16:37
dulekOkay, so just let me finish with glance ones. ;)16:37
jgriffithhemna: I think we have it :)16:37
dulekhemna: metametadata16:37
jgriffithdulek: yeah, so that example helps16:37
dulekBut there's more.16:37
jgriffithdulek: but here's what annoys me about it...16:37
dulekYou can for example request certain amount of RAM allocated to graphics through image metadata.16:38
jgriffithdulek: this is the same case.... we already have glance_property (they don't call it metadata) so why aren't we just uploading that as generic info?16:38
jgriffithdulek: rather than creating all these references16:38
jgriffithdulek: or just embed it in the snapshot/volume metadata that we already had16:38
jgriffithvolume_metadata = {glance_prop: {....}}16:39
dulekjgriffith: Yeah, that would probably be better.16:39
jgriffithor I guess s/glance_prop/image_prop/16:39
dulekBecause we're storing glance_metadata to pass them to nova when booting from volume.16:39
dulekAnd on snapshot to copy them to a volume when creating it from a snapshot.16:39
jgriffithdulek: ok, well thanks for helping me with that16:40
dulekAnd probably to copy them back to Glance when copying volume to image.16:40
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jgriffithdulek: I wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing somewhere16:40
dulekI haven't ever thought of how to do that in a proper way.16:40
dulekIt was like "there" when I came in to the project. ;)16:40
jgriffithI guess I don't understand like I said why the sub key in the metadata wouldn't be fine?16:41
jgriffithso you just have snapshot_metadata and volume_metadata16:41
johnthetubaguyFWIW, we have an object for that stuff thats in glance now:
jgriffithget rid of all the crazy other ones16:41
jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: looking...16:41
dulekI think it's bound to 255 chars, so that would probably be a little small space.16:41
dulekI mean - metadata key.16:42
jgriffithdulek: true16:42
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jgriffithdulek: but there has to be a better way than what we're doing now... looking at the nova code johnthetubaguy just mentioned16:42
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jgriffithjohnthetubaguy: dulek ok, so this seems like it would be wayyy better16:43
dulekLet me take a look…16:43
jgriffithUse a full image_metadata (or image-property) table16:43
jgriffithand backref that to a volume or snapshot or whatever16:44
jgriffiththat also means it's got a chance at being something that's standardized and enforced16:44
dulekYeah, looks great… But how to keep the list in sync between Nova, Cinder and GLance?16:44
jgriffithas opposed to just a bunch of random stuff that people shove things in to16:44
dulekI mean - when Nova adds a property key that does something we would also need to do su.16:44
jgriffithdulek: so that's something else that troubles me :)16:45
jgriffithdulek: there's no real single source of truth right now16:45
jgriffithwell... I guess Nova would be16:45
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jgriffithbecause.. well, that's what really need/uses this data16:45
jgriffithI hate to say this... but it makes me think that this should actually be a shared library16:46
jgriffiththat way everybody is synced up off of one single version16:46
dulekThere are some descriptions in Glance also that are used to display properties in Horizon metadata view.16:46
jgriffithor we just stay in lock step with what Nova has16:46
jgriffithdulek: well... so here's where my selfishness comes in16:46
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jgriffithdulek: I've been burned by Glance enough in the past changing their properties and breaking them that I'd prefer they didn't own them :)16:47
dulekIf we have a DB column per property, then that lib would need to add migrations and stuff when things change. This gets a little complicated.16:47
jgriffithdulek: yeah, it's certainly not trivial16:47
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dulekNova should certainly own them. Just mentioning Glance is having a catalog with them also.16:47
jgriffithglance should just go away... and be absorbed by modules in Nova :)16:47
* dulek thinks of Glance like a Swift API. ;)16:48
duleks/like a/like of16:48
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jgriffithYeah, but then they decided to be more.  And you run into issues because there's Ceph, NFS etc16:49
dulekAnd speaking about the bluex patch you've mentioned in the beginning - it's just synchronizing objects with what's in DB.16:49
dulekAnd to be honest it's not that critical now - just kind of refactoring.16:50
mtaninoseems interesting topic for me.16:51
scottdahemna: pong16:51
dulekmtanino: Your IRC client highlights the word "refactoring"? :D16:52
jgriffithdulek: LOL16:52
mtaninodulek: catch the keyword glance metadata :)16:52
scottdahemna: You ping'ed yesterday PM. Perhaps the ping has expired....16:53
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hemnaoh, yah I don't remember now16:54
scottdaThe solution to everything®16:54
openstackgerritAlex Meade proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Try to get service name in logs
smcginnisscottda: :)16:55
mtaninodulek: Seems you have good knowledge about glance metadata, could you give me feedback for this? Support image_volume_type in image metadata
dulekjgriffith: So summing up - I think we can make the way we handle metadata better. Maybe we can follow up on the midcycle? I'll be lucky enough to be there. :)16:56
mtaninooh, midcycle.16:56
hemnajenkins isn't happy16:57
scottdahemna: Yes, see the commit message16:57
dulekmtanino: Added to the review queue. I'm swamped, but I'll try to look before Monday morning US time.16:57
scottdaGrenade fails and needs a patch16:57
smcginnishemna: Need ceilometer updated first.16:57
smcginnisscottda: :P16:57
jgriffithdulek: yeah, that would be cool16:57
mtaninodulek: thank you for your hard work :)16:57
scottdaPatch is up for review and linked in commit message16:57
jgriffithdulek: we should poke at what Nova has and see if there's a way to tie in there that isn't brittle16:57
hemnascottda, ok, lets get that through :)16:58
smcginnisscottda: Jenkins hasn't reported on that yet, has it.16:58
* smcginnis looking for link16:58
scottdaYeah, I reckon we are pretty sure we want microversions, so the grenade patch can go.16:58
hemnasmcginnis, not yet16:58
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scottdasmcginnis: Yes, I had a bug in the grenade patch. patrickeast pointed it out in review. New patch uploaded, so grenade patch still needs to pass16:59
smcginnishemna: Thanks. It looks good now, so I think once Jenkins is OK we should probably move ahead.16:59
* dulek never thought that the fact he started developing in OpenStack from Glance would make any difference16:59
scottdaShould be mere moments before we know.....16:59
smcginnisscottda: Awesome!16:59
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scottdaBTW, I'm looking for someone who is expert in api_paste16:59
jgriffithdulek: :)16:59
scottdaAny ideas whom that might be?17:00
scottdathingee: ?17:00
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hemnascottda, that'd be my guess17:01
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smcginnisscottda: Jenkins not too happy.17:09
jordanPguys I am a not sure about It wants to remove testing of cinder backup when using Cinder API v117:09
jordanP"backups API exists on cinder v2 API only" is that true ?17:09
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hemnascottda, 2016-01-08 17:01:52.755 | cp: cannot stat '/opt/stack/new/etc/cinder/api_paste.ini': No such file or directory17:11
jgriffithjordanP: not true17:11
jgriffithjordanP: backups are an extension so they're in both17:11
jordanPjgriffith, thanks. Could you leave a quick comment on the patch ?17:11
jgriffithjordanP: will do17:12
jordanPas you are a core reviewer for Cinder, that should weight17:12
jgriffithjordanP: I'm just wading through trying to figure out what this patch is trying to do :)17:12
jgriffithOh... hehe17:12
jgriffiththey just delete teh backup tests in V117:12
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jgriffithjordanP: comment added, lemme know if that makes sense17:15
jgriffithjordanP: the main point being is that this logic would indicate you remove ALL cinder-v1 tests17:15
jgriffithjordanP: which as you point out is no good at all17:15
hemnascottda, I think I found it.17:15
hemnascottda, I added it in the review17:16
jordanPjgriffith, agreed. Thanks a lot !17:16
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guitarzanjgriffith: you just gave someone else an idea for a patch...17:17
jgriffithguitarzan: ha17:17
scottdahemna: thanks17:18
hemnascottda, does that look right ?17:18
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scottdahemna: yes, thanks17:25
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scottdaI'm a bit sloppy here. I should run Grenade locally to verify before submitting .17:25
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hemnaok coolio np17:25
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sheeljgriffith: Hi17:36
sheeljgriffith: are we considering "" for  next release?17:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1158328 in Cinder "passwords in config files stored in plaintext" [Wishlist,Confirmed]17:37
sheeljgriffith:or we are planning to wontfix like nova did?17:37
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jgriffithsheel: in the past I'd been of the opinion that security on the nodes was what it took, but there's been enough feedback from some enterprises that don't want to or can't fight issues that I think it's worth looking at a solution17:39
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jgriffithsheel: the trick is to make sure it's compatable17:39
jgriffithsheel: so "old" config files still work17:39
jgriffithsheel: even just adding a decrypt utility to Cinder would solve this17:40
sheeljgriffith:hmmm, right.17:40
sheeljgriffith:this seems a bit interesting17:41
jgriffithsheel: it's tricky, I agree with most of the comments from sdague, fungi and others17:41
jgriffithsheel: but at the same time I get hammered by a handful of customers on this subject17:42
jgriffithsheel: it's easy for me to say "secure you're node, it's not a regulatory issue" as I'm not the one running their data center :)17:42
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sheeljgriffith:yes, but I think almost all systems take care of such security things on application i just pinged to remind of this...17:43
jgriffithsheel: yeah, there's valid points on both side of the argument17:44
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jgriffithsheel: the reality is however I've not come up with a solution that will satisfy everyone :(17:44
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jgriffithsheel: I'm certainly open to suggestions and innovation though :)17:44
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sheeljgriffith:sure, I would look into it in next days...will discuss in some cinder meeting sooner or later..17:45
jgriffithsheel: my enterprise is "my" enterprise behind firewalls, passwords etc so I don't worry about this much17:45
jgriffithsheel: not to mention I don't exactly have any secret/critical data :)17:45
sheeljgriffith: :)17:45
jgriffithsheel: awesome, keep me posted, it would be cool if you have a good solution :)17:46
sheeljgriffith: sure, please share in case any suggestions are already discussed at some place, some document other than on bug itself17:47
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jgriffithsheel: I think you've got about as much info as I do :)17:53
jgriffithsheel: the customers I talk to don't have solutions/ideas, just that plain text is unacceptable :)17:53
sheeljgriffith: ok, thank you :)17:55
jgriffithsheel: for sure17:55
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jgriffithhemna: hey... can you explain more what the idea is here:
jgriffithhemna: so I believe the idea is to get path info *from cinder* somehow?18:00
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jgriffithbut I'm unclear how that would work, I'm also uncertain about calling initialize_connection on a device that's already attached?18:01
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jgriffiththen throw in the use of factories and well... I dunno18:01
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jgriffithalso curious, if brick becomes wide-spread and lives out on Nova and other places... how do you "know" this is a cinder-volume node or not18:02
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jgriffithbecause based on the commit mesage it states it's to be used on a cinder-volume node18:03
jgriffithbut meanwhile cinder-volume nodes don't have "paths"18:03
jgriffithso I ARE confused18:03
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openstackgerritDan Nguyen proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes cinder quota mgmt for keystone v3
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hemnaI'm going through the review and answering18:30
hemnabut, cinder already has to be safe wrt initialize_connection18:30
hemnanova already calls initialize_connection multiple times for the volume that's already attached.  Nova simply wants the return value from that, not any action being taken on cinder's side.18:31
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Add volume fail-back capabilities
jgriffithhemna: calls to initialize_connection are the least of my concerns with that patch18:36
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Add volume fail-back capabilities
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Adding volume checks to manage snapshot API
hemnaI'll finish my answers18:37
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hemnaok I posted them18:41
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leeanthohemna, hey18:42
hemnaleeantho, need to clarify some things on your os-brick tool patch18:42
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Add volume fail-back capabilities
jgriffithleeantho: sorry, didn't know your nic on IRC :)18:45
jgriffithleeantho: maybe you can clairfy some of the questions I posted?18:45
jgriffithIt's still really unclear *who* and *where* this script is being run, and if/why it needs any real cinder interaction at all.  but I fully admitted that I am probably just really dense here18:46
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leeanthojgriffith, I'll read through them and try to clarify some of the sections18:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext: Use
leeanthojgriffith, the tool would be used by an admin/developer/tester/CI who want to verify that attach and detach operations are not leaving volume paths behind.  The problem originally came up with live migration testing a while ago but could be useful for other attach/detach scenarios.  I've had the patch for the tool in os-brick for some time but that might not be the best place for it to exist even though it uses brick APIs.19:11
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jgriffithleeantho: ok, but then I have to wonder... why all the hoops?  I mean, why not just "ls /dev/disk/by-path" and "iscsiadm sessions" ?19:13
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Added Keystone and RequestID headers to CORS middleware
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leeanthoIt was mainly to help automate the process because sometimes paths were only intermittently left behind.  Instead of having to do the same steps many times manually (if doing something like 100+ tests) you could automate calls to the tool to verify and check after each attach/detach or live migration attempt.  That could then just keep track of pass/fails for the attempts (outside of that brick tool)19:16
leeanthobrick also made it easier to check different connector types outside of iscsi with its apis. some connectors use different  locations for volume paths19:19
openstackgerritThang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Add finish_volume_migration to volume object
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Add volume fail-back capabilities
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Added Keystone and RequestID headers to CORS middleware
smcginnisscottda: Jenkins still not happy with the api-paste bit. :/19:28
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smcginnishemna: Jenkins is cranky today.19:28
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scottdayeah, I'm sure it's me..19:29
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hemnacp: cannot stat '/opt/stack/new/cinder/etc/cinder/api_paste.ini': No such file or directory19:29
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hemnasorry scottda I thought that was the right path.19:29
bswartzsmcginnis: when is jenkins not cranky?19:30
smcginnisbswartz: Jenkins needs to get more sleep and more coffee I think.19:30
smcginnisAlways complaining! :)19:30
hemnascottda, do we need a sudo in front of the cp ?19:30
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scottdahemna: I thought about that, but the file isn't owned by root on my devstack.19:31
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scottdaBut it could be correct to use sudo19:31
hemnathe line above it is copying stuff from the same place19:31
scottdabut line above uses sudo, so you might be right19:31
hemnaI dunno19:31
hemnatry it ?19:32
hemnayou'd think it would complain about perms19:32
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hemnaI know what it is19:32
hemnathat's hard to see19:33
hemnascottda, check the review :P19:33
smcginnishemna: No comment in there.19:34
hemna<rant> I really hate the new gerrit UI </rant>19:35
hemnamy daily ration of hatred for the new ui.19:35
smcginnishemna: That was a short one today. :)19:35
hemnahehe yah19:36
scottdash$!*t !!!19:36
hemnaI guess you eventually get used to having your fingers smashed with a hammer.19:36
scottdaI think it's best if I go back to bed for a little while, and try this again.19:37
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jgriffithscottda: just go shovel some snow for a while... clears the mind :)19:46
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scottdahehe..good idea. I already did, But it's piled up again...19:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess
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mtreinishjgriffith: I just had a random idea/question have you tried to run openstack-health ontop of your subunit2sql db from sos-ci?20:22
jgriffithmtreinish: no, I haven't actually looked at openstack-health20:23
jgriffithreading up on it now20:23
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jgriffithmtreinish: oh happy!!!20:23
jgriffithOk, yes... I want that!!!20:23
jgriffithmtreinish: in fact, I want it to be mandatory for ALL the CI's20:24
mtreinishit might not work 100% for your db because it does expect certain values in the run metadata20:24
jgriffithmtreinish: well, I can certainly *adjust* things20:24
mtreinishlike build_name: XXX and project: XXX20:24
jgriffithmtreinish: ok, cool... I'll def take a look at adding this in20:25
jgriffithmtreinish: that reminds me, I've still never pushed the round of commits for the latest stuff I added in it for subunit etc20:25
jgriffithmtreinish: I'm curious...20:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Actually log the command used in _run_iscsiadm
jgriffithmtreinish: how is pass rate being calculated (far too lazy to look) :)20:26
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jgriffithmtreinish: I ask because for example genuine patch induced failures20:26
mtreinishjgriffith: so this is only from gate (thats all we collect in the infra subunit2sql db)20:26
jgriffithI'm assuming these are part of verify not gate?  Or am I wrong20:26
mtreinishand only tempest runs20:26
mtreinishit also misses failures before tempest starts, because we need a subunit stream to write into the db20:27
mtreinishbut I'm working on that aspect with:
mtreinishand then a corresponding thing for d-g when that's working20:27
jgriffithmtreinish: so one thing about that, is it would be cool if some day we had a way to convey what failed...20:28
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jgriffithie if it was a random test failure, or something introduced by the patch20:28
mtreinishand collecting more than tempest is just a matter of config:
jgriffithI know that's a pretty pie in the sky request :)20:28
jgriffithmtreinish: ok, doesn't look like any of those should be difficult to NOT have a translation over to sos20:29
jgriffithmtreinish: or.. well... you know what I mean :)20:29
mtreinishheh, I have an idea on how to do that that leveraging elastic recheck and doing an on demand query to logstash20:29
jgriffithmtreinish: :)20:29
mtreinishall the data to do that is in the db, but it pushes my js scripts too far20:29
mtreinishs/scripts/lack of skill20:30
jgriffithmtreinish: :)20:30
jgriffithI was doing some stuff to just leverage out a keyword list20:30
jgriffithbut it's pretty basic20:30
jgriffithI just comb my ansible output to see if I ever get the success response from stack.sh20:31
jgriffiththe random failure thing... well, that's a whole different story:)20:31
mtreinishI have patches up to start adding a list of recent runs w/ links to the logs:
jgriffithmtreinish: I started playing with building a list of known "troulbesome" tests but I don't like that20:31
jgriffithmtreinish: hmmm20:32
* jgriffith has never wanted to learn js... but 20:32
mtreinishjgriffith: heh, that's simple it's always test volume boot pattern at fault :)20:32
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jgriffithmtreinish: well... that's the funny thing!!20:32
jgriffithmtreinish: it is in my case... every time20:32
jgriffithThat's the only failure I have in my data for the last 3 months20:32
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mtreinishhaha, nice20:32
jgriffithmtreinish: what's worse is it keeps moving20:33
jgriffithmtreinish: the signature in the logs that is20:33
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jgriffithfrom networking, to db timeouts, and most recently just login failure20:33
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mtreinishah the generic failed to ssh error20:33
jgriffithanyway... some day I'm going to figure out how to make that sucker stable20:33
jgriffithyes!  I was thinking of adding an ssh retry loop... didn't see if that was already in Tempest20:34
mtreinishsdague and I were talking about some improvements to the logging that are really needed there to make figuring out why it cant connect easier20:34
mtreinishbut that ssh code is a ratsnest and really needs a simplification/refactor20:34
jgriffithreason being is that in my ci for example I kept hitting the pitfall of thinking "ACTIVE" was actually ready20:34
mtreinishjgriffith: it does a retry loop with an exponential backoff20:34
jgriffithmtreinish: I kinda figured folks were smarter than that20:35
jgriffithmtreinish: but I still had "hope" :)20:35
mtreinishjgriffith: here's an example:
jgriffithmtreinish: oh wow... and that's a pretty long period of time20:37
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mtreinishI guess its just a linear backoff, I thought it was exponential20:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Use assertTrue/False instead of assertEqual(T/F)
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Remove access_mode 'rw' setting in drivers
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patrickeasthemna: dang, so i'm starting to have the same offline fc hba problems you guys did... had to restart a node last night :(21:11
patrickeasthemna: did you guys ever get a fix for it other than rebooting the host?21:12
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kmartinpatrickeast, yeah, pretty sure we checked in the fc script...
kmartinpatrickeast, it seems to have fixed it for us.21:25
patrickeastkmartin: oh, switching to use reattach fixed it?21:25
patrickeastkmartin: i thought that script just caught it earlier21:25
patrickeastlemmie give that a try and see if it works better21:26
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kmartinwith the combination of
patrickeastkmartin: gotcha, easy fix for me then if I just need to update to the newest passthrough script, the part i wasn't sure on was if the 'hopefully' part here had been confirmed
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kmartinpatrickeast, it works for us :)21:29
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kmartin"hopefully" it will work for you.21:30
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hemnapatrickeast, I had put a patch in that was supposed to fix that, or at least make that a LOT more stable.21:38
hemnait's been stable for us since21:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Remove access_mode 'rw' setting in drivers
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jidaris there any recommendation to put '/usr/bin/ -r' in crontab or anything if you're doing FC based block storage?22:59
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Swansonjidar, I don't believe so.23:06
jidarI figured as much, just making sure. Seems like I've had to do that at least once to get things working again23:07
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openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool for querying volume paths
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openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool for querying volume paths
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Add volume fail-back capabilities
bardiaanyone know how i can add our driver to this page:
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kmartinbardia, working 3rd party CI and updating
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