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| tbarron | hemna: when you get a chance pls. check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288696/ again | 00:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Liang proposed openstack/cinder: Revert "VNX: Set timeout for naviseccli" https://review.openstack.org/292673 | 01:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | huanan proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check the QoS status before we use https://review.openstack.org/271601 | 02:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Cleanup for Replication v2: remove 'replication-reenable'. https://review.openstack.org/292332 | 02:28 |
| openstackgerrit | dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Cleanup for replication v2: remove --source-replication. https://review.openstack.org/292330 | 02:28 |
| openstackgerrit | dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Cleanup for Replication v2: remove 'replication-promote' https://review.openstack.org/292331 | 02:28 |
| openstackgerrit | dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cleanup for Replication v2: remove tests for replication. https://review.openstack.org/292329 | 02:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: cleanup for Replication v2: remove tests for replication. https://review.openstack.org/292329 | 02:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | huanan proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Check when attach hypermetro volume https://review.openstack.org/283964 | 03:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: No volume_id needed for backup-create from snapshot https://review.openstack.org/284572 | 03:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Add update_host for backup in cinder-manager https://review.openstack.org/282230 | 03:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: IBM XIV/DS8K: Implement Replication v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/288880 | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Clean up image tmp file if c-vol gets restarted https://review.openstack.org/225081 | 03:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/cinder: XIO: refactor _send_cmd to reduce the redundant https://review.openstack.org/262163 | 05:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/cinder: DB purge command fails due to FK constraint https://review.openstack.org/291083 | 06:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/292732 | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/cinder: Fix format in cinder/volume/drivers/netapp/dataontap/block_base.py https://review.openstack.org/292748 | 07:33 |
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| AJaeger | cinder cores, could you review 292749, please? This is critical to fix translation import. | 07:34 |
| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Clean up image tmp file if c-vol gets restarted https://review.openstack.org/225081 | 07:34 |
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| DuncanT | AJaeger: I assume you mean 292748 ? | 08:11 |
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| AJaeger | DuncanT: always these off-by-one errors ;( Yes, indeed | 08:13 |
| AJaeger | DuncanT: Thanks a lot! | 08:13 |
| DuncanT | AJaeger: Done :-) | 08:13 |
| AJaeger | great! | 08:14 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is going to be restarted | 11:13 | |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit had to be restarted because was not responsive. As a consequence, some of the test results have been lost, from 08:30 UTC to 10:30 UTC approximately. Please recheck any affected jobs by this problem. | 11:32 | |
| openstackgerrit | zhangguoqing proposed openstack/cinder: fix assignment errors https://review.openstack.org/292832 | 11:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Accela Zhao proposed openstack/cinder: Inherit multiattach from volume source https://review.openstack.org/276312 | 11:36 |
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| zhangguoqing | have a talk? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1555938 | 12:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555938 in Cinder "Create snapshot, create volume from snapshot or clone a volume still can succeed even the cinder-volume service is disabled" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to aditi sharma (adi-sky17) | 12:01 |
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| markus_z | hemna: Do you have a minute? | 12:27 |
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| markus_z | hemna: In case you find time, I'd like to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441903 | 12:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441903 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "rootwrap.d ln doesn't work for non iSCSI volumes" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to lvmxh (shaohef) | 12:36 |
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| jgriffith | sbezverk: Hey.. that's great news! | 14:34 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: you'll have to show me how to configure and deploy it so I can have a look at it too | 14:34 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: nice work! | 14:35 |
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| sbezverk | jgriffith: sure, but it is not going to be merged until newton.. | 14:35 |
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| sbezverk | jgriffith: you will have to use my patch | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: fair enough :) | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: I've been trying to figure out how to customize the config more than anything else | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: adding your patch is easy enough | 14:36 |
| sbezverk | jgriffith: kolla uses different approach in reconfiguration, you need actually run kolla-ansible reconfigure | 14:37 |
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| sbezverk | and also place new configuration files at the right location | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: Yeah, I've been poking at the ansible vars, didn't realize tehre was a reconfigure command. | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | and had not figured out config file placement etc, or how that worked precisely | 14:38 |
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| sbezverk | jgriffith you need to create /etc/kolla/config, then you place cinder.conf in that folder, your cinder.conf should contain only changed parameters, no need to have everything there and then you run from kolla/tools kolla-ansible reconfigure | 15:01 |
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| lprice1 | DuncanT: Can you give me a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292620? It's a pretty simple bugfix. | 15:27 |
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| jgriffith | sbezverk: ahh... I see | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: maybe next week you can help me duplicate your setup and run with your patch? | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: I'd love to try it out | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | sbezverk: and figure out how to modify kolla to only build/install a subset of services | 15:56 |
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| jgriffith | sbezverk: perhaps it's already documented somewhere and I just haven't found it yet | 15:56 |
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| e0ne | hemna: hi. are you around? | 16:19 |
| hemna | e0ne, yough | 16:19 |
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| e0ne | hemna: I'm looking into the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277224/20 (Trivial rootwrap -> privsep replacement) | 16:21 |
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| hemna | kew | 16:21 |
| hemna | it's not in a good state at the moment | 16:22 |
| e0ne | hemna: I'm trying to figureout how it will help me with brickclient | 16:22 |
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| hemna | e0ne, I think it should help eliminate the need for rootwrap completely | 16:23 |
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| e0ne | hemna: yes, but we need 2 use-cases: 1) rootwrap or privsep and 2) just "sudo" | 16:24 |
| hemna | well 1) is going to go away | 16:24 |
| hemna | well, rootwrap | 16:24 |
| e0ne | hemna: ok, we'll use privsep | 16:24 |
| hemna | this will replace the need for rootwrap | 16:24 |
| hemna | I'm not sure how this fits with the need to use sudo cinder ... | 16:25 |
| e0ne | hemna: but for brickclient, we need use os-brick w/o privsep | 16:25 |
| hemna | do we? | 16:25 |
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| e0ne | I'm not sure now, tbh | 16:26 |
| hemna | yah I'm not sure either | 16:26 |
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| hemna | what's the drawback of just allowing privsep to do the work that sudo accomplishes in this case ? | 16:26 |
| e0ne | hemna: please, read DuncanT's comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263744/ | 16:28 |
| e0ne | "I'm saying that both rootwrap and privsep are wrong for this as a CLI - just call the whole CLI call with sudo for attach / detach - this much more strongly matches what other CLI tools do." | 16:29 |
| hemna | sure, well I'm not sure how to achieve that actually | 16:29 |
| hemna | we'd have to bypass all of privsep | 16:29 |
| hemna | we'll have to talk to gus about it | 16:30 |
| hemna | this isn't landing in M anyway | 16:30 |
| hemna | so we have time | 16:30 |
| e0ne | sure, but I would like to know what we need from os-brick and oslo.privsep sooner rather than later | 16:31 |
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| DuncanT | I freely admit I didn't look at how to achieve it, it just seemed like the most natural thing to do | 16:32 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: I'm agree with you on it | 16:32 |
| hemna | DuncanT, yah it seems to be the right thing to do wrt the extension | 16:32 |
| DuncanT | e0ne: Excellent :-) | 16:32 |
| hemna | maybe it's actually easier w/ privsep | 16:32 |
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| hemna | since the privsep stuff eliminates rootwrap filters which suck, and replaces it with decorators | 16:33 |
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| hemna | maybe those decorators become inactive | 16:33 |
| hemna | if we set a flag | 16:33 |
| hemna | which would mean if you don't sudo cinder, then everything fails | 16:33 |
| e0ne | that what I'm talking about: makit it configurable | 16:33 |
| hemna | which would be the desired result | 16:33 |
| hemna | but | 16:33 |
| hemna | there is no brick.conf | 16:34 |
| hemna | and won't be | 16:34 |
| hemna | it's a library | 16:34 |
| hemna | :) | 16:34 |
| e0ne | +1 | 16:34 |
| e0ne | configurable != has a config | 16:34 |
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| hemna | coolio | 16:35 |
| hemna | just wanted to make sure we are on the same page :) | 16:35 |
| e0ne | the same for me:) | 16:35 |
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| e0ne | looks like we agreed what we want and how it will be from the users' perspective | 16:36 |
| e0ne | I'm feeling good to start searching for a technical solution for it | 16:36 |
| lprice1 | jgriffith: jungleboyj: Thanks for the quick reviews on my patch :-) | 16:37 |
| hemna | e0ne, fwiw, I plan on doing some more refactoring | 16:37 |
| hemna | e0ne, I'm going to add a new factory | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | lprice1: Welcome. | 16:37 |
| hemna | and move it out of connector.py | 16:37 |
| hemna | so I can then move all of the individual connectors out of connector.py and into their own separate files | 16:38 |
| e0ne | are you talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275943/? | 16:38 |
| hemna | it's too big now to cope with | 16:38 |
| hemna | e0ne, that's just a small first step | 16:38 |
| e0ne | I've got it | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: WIP os-brick refactor get_connector_properties https://review.openstack.org/275943 | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Add devref on rolling upgrades https://review.openstack.org/279186 | 16:40 |
| e0ne | hemna: thanks for the help. I'll update you on my progress if any | 16:42 |
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| sheel | DuncanT: hi there | 16:42 |
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| hemna | e0ne, np | 16:44 |
| sheel | Hello All, | 16:44 |
| sheel | Kindly find some time to review | 16:44 |
| sheel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292205/ | 16:44 |
| sheel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/ | 16:44 |
| sheel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288296/ | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Add default SSH timeout and key values https://review.openstack.org/291956 | 16:51 |
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| dulek | geguileo: Hi, do you plan to add a session on c-vol A/A in newton-cinder-summit-ideas etherpad? | 16:51 |
| geguileo | dulek: It's there | 16:51 |
| dulek | geguileo: Or do you think that we've agreed on the design and need just the development? | 16:51 |
| geguileo | dulek: Unless... it's not | 16:52 |
| geguileo | Yep, it's at the end | 16:52 |
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| geguileo | dulek: L 67 | 16:52 |
| dulek | geguileo: Ah, it's in section "Possible Mitaka Recap Session?", that's why I've ignored it thinking it's just update for contributors, not design discussion. | 16:53 |
| geguileo | dulek: Yeah, it got included there | 16:53 |
| geguileo | dulek: But you are right, I should move it out | 16:53 |
| geguileo | dulek: Because there have been some small changes in the approach and I was planning to explain them (I expect to have submitted cleanup patches by then) | 16:54 |
| e0ne | ? | 16:54 |
| dulek | geguileo: Okay! | 16:54 |
| dulek | And by the way - when was this etherpad announced? I've must have missed an openstack-dev mail? | 16:54 |
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| geguileo | dulek: It's going to be announced tomorrow | 16:55 |
| geguileo | dulek: I think | 16:55 |
| geguileo | dulek: I was going to ping you about it, but you already replied to the email, so I thought you already knew | 16:56 |
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| geguileo | dulek: On the HA A/A session, will you be giving an update on the DLM part? | 16:56 |
| dulek | geguileo: Actually I think you've missed the etherpad link in the email. :D smcginnis_away pinged me about it. | 16:56 |
| geguileo | dulek: I missed it? | 16:57 |
| geguileo | f*ck! | 16:57 |
| geguileo | Nobody told me anything %-D | 16:57 |
| dulek | geguileo: I can do that (would need to synchronize with both Szymon's!) | 16:57 |
| geguileo | dulek: That would be great | 16:57 |
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| hemna | do we have patches we are trying to get in for M still ? | 17:04 |
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| dulek | hemna: RPC API version bumps: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:bp/rpc-object-compatibility | 17:20 |
| dulek | hemna: Not something we would die without, but at the meeting we've agreed to get them in. | 17:20 |
| hemna | ok | 17:20 |
| sheel | hemna:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/ | 17:20 |
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| sheel | Its regarding microversioning of existing bug.. | 17:21 |
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| dulek | hemna: And on this list you can ignore devref patch. smcginnis_away said that he would like to get it in, but it's just docs. ;) | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: update the retype after the cleanup for replication https://review.openstack.org/292608 | 18:06 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis_away: Let me know when you are back. | 18:10 |
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| mtanino | dulek: Hi, | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: update the do_setup for the failover status https://review.openstack.org/292570 | 18:44 |
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| Swanson | If a failover-host failback is initiated I'm going to assume it is a problem if I take 7 hours to do it. Right? | 18:59 |
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| sheel | hemna: hi, HPE Storage CI test passes for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/ | 19:09 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: That seems a reasonable assumption, to say the least | 19:16 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, So failback as it is currently setup probably isn't useful outside of a test case. I mean since the original scenario was that the main system was destroyed in fire, flood or other disaster. | 19:17 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: PSU failure and similar cases are also covered, and since not all volumes need be replicated, failback is, in actuality, a likely scenario | 19:18 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, For the volumes not replicated failover and failback is the same as power off and power on. | 19:20 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: The cheesecake model allows (indeed makes a it a likely case that) an array will have some replicated and some none-replicated volumes | 19:21 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: In the event of a failure, the none-replicated volumes are not available until fail-back | 19:22 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, yeah, but the non replicated volumes are uninteresting in the case of failover and failback. | 19:22 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, the non replicated volumes would show back up as soon as the failed machine was powered back on. Same as a power on and then failback. | 19:22 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: No, they aren't. They become totally unavailable during a failover, and they *do not* become available when the array is powered back on | 19:23 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: c-vol is not able to talk to the old array until after a failback | 19:23 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: (depending on how your driver is coded I guess. but the original design certainly made that the obvious case) | 19:24 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, I get all of that. I'm saying that since nothing is done with those in the case of failover/failback which makes the behavior of non replicated volumes the same as no failover at all. It is only the replicated volumes that are intersting. | 19:26 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: If failback takes 7 hours, then anybody interested in the none-replicated volumes is likely to be annoyed. I've commonly seen PSU failures fixed in tens of minutes in a well organised datacentre, for example | 19:27 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, And in that case the person who decides to do a failover for 10 minutes is out of their mind. Just swap the power supply and power back up. Back where you would have been without 7 hours of down time. | 19:30 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, Regardless. I'm concerned about the replicated volumes. If fail back is initiated am I allowed to work on it for 7 hours or is there a time out? | 19:31 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Seven hours is an insane amount of time to do a failback. Just nuts. | 19:31 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Whatever is causing it to take seven hours is very, very broken | 19:31 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, Depends how long things are down. Could be 2 minutes. Could be a lot of data to sync on a lot of volumes. We failed over after all and let people connect up to the failed over volumes. | 19:32 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, Say a new system arrives in 2 weeks. And has to fail back from scratch. And users are writing to the failed over volumes at the same time. | 19:33 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: So that's a live failback... not what I understood you to mean. I guess that takes as long as it takes - if there's zero downtime, then not so bad. | 19:33 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: If you need a failback under those circumstances within a set amount of time, then it is one more metric to size the system for | 19:34 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: I thought you meant seven hours of downtime, sorry | 19:34 |
| sheel | 7 hours in data mapping seems ok for large systems for new node or failback from scratch.. | 19:36 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, That could be the case, too. It depends on if I have to complete my part of this in the failover-host function or no. | 19:36 |
| DuncanT | sheel: Whether it is ok or not depends totally on the customer... they'll be looking at things like the odds of simultaneous failure (higher than most people think, the curse of raid 5) | 19:37 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: If your replication requires seven hours of downtime, I'd suggest it is broken, personally | 19:37 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, Pick a long number that is under your broken threshold and pretend I said that. | 19:38 |
| sheel | DuncanT: yep..customer is king... :) | 19:38 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: If I'm bothering with replication, zero is the number I'm looking for | 19:38 |
| DuncanT | sheel: Generally, the customer is an ass ;-) | 19:39 |
| sheel | haha | 19:39 |
| bswartz | replication always has performance and cost tradeoffs | 19:40 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, Alright. I can't support failback. Non support is easy to implement. | 19:40 |
| bswartz | fast, cheap, good -- pick 2 | 19:40 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Tell that to the customers | 19:40 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: These are issues we need to sort out, for sure. The first step is to look at why a customer uses replication... it generally isn't so that they can loose access to tehir volumes for seven hours | 19:41 |
| DuncanT | *their volumes | 19:41 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, I thought we moved to just about 0 hours? | 19:42 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: zero hours is certainly going to be the answer the customer wants | 19:43 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: They might take X seconds if it make sthe solution much cheaper, for example | 19:43 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, I've got "Live volume" as well. That's also going to be implemented but I'm not even sure I'm going to do that through the replication interface since there is no need to fail it over ever. | 19:43 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: Fair enough, maybe the replication interface isn't what you want/need then | 19:44 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: If you've got syncronous 2-way live replication, I don't see why you'd want expose any controls to the admin regarding failover | 19:45 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, Not everything we have supports that. And not everyone licenses it. | 19:45 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, What I have to do for regular replication failback is initiate a reverse replication. Wait for sync. Break the replication and recreate the replications going the original direction. | 19:47 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: I'm not sure of the use-cases for replication with a seven hour downtime. Maybe there are some | 19:47 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, Depending on how much data that can take whatever amount of time it takes. | 19:47 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: As I said, I don't understand the use-cases for replication with a significant downtime. In the end, it's up to the customer to decide, not me. | 19:50 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, I'm not worried about the use case. I'm worried about the mechanics of it. | 19:52 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: I don't know your array, and honestly, I've not spent a vast amount of time thinking about it, since I don't currently maintain a driver. The failback is the most hand-wavy part of cheesecake at the moment, for sure. | 19:53 |
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| DuncanT | Swanson: Can you swap the secondary and the master permanently? Or are they asymmetric? | 19:57 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, I probably could. | 19:58 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Not sure what that does to any none-replicated volumes though | 19:59 |
| Swanson | DuncanT, need to think about this some more. What I'm getting from this is that things should probably happen fast in the current implementation. If I want more than that it probably needs additions. | 19:59 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: I think so, yeah | 20:00 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Might be worth seeing if anybody else has any comments, or if any fail-back documentation appears for other arrays | 20:00 |
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| Swanson | DuncanT, Sean is back in the office tomorrow. I'll start by badgering him about it. He enjoys that. :) | 20:01 |
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| DuncanT | lol | 20:02 |
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| kmartin | cd .. | 20:49 |
| kmartin | oops | 20:49 |
| patrickeast | Swanson: hey, just catching up on irc for today, but maybe related to your question; I made a change a few days ago that makes failover an async RPC call now so our drivers can take as much time as they need to failover | 20:50 |
| patrickeast | It was limited by the rpc timeout before that | 20:50 |
| patrickeast | So you can take 7 hours or however long it need | 20:50 |
| Swanson | patrickeast, Ah! It is an async call now. Excellent. | 20:50 |
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| kmartin | angela-s, Hi, Have you had time to update the openstack config ref with the new brocade options that landed in mitaka? | 21:00 |
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| kmartin | angela-s, I'm looking in openstack-manuals/doc/config-reference/source/block-storage/fc-zoning.rst and ../tables/cinder-zoning_fabrics.rst | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix retype failure when original has no volume type https://review.openstack.org/282579 | 21:05 |
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| angela-s | kmartin: argh. my brain hurts. | 21:20 |
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| kmartin | angela-s, look like config-ref still needs updating for all the DocImpact tags on the Brocade changes and friendly name change | 21:22 |
| angela-s | kmartin: looks like I just need to update one table. | 21:22 |
| angela-s | kmartin: there is no config change for friendly zone names, i think that was a mistake | 21:23 |
| angela-s | if there was a doc impact tag added, it should not have been there for that piece | 21:24 |
| kmartin | the cinder-zoning_fabric.rst gets generated automatically if you follow the instructions in the "Warning:" | 21:24 |
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| kmartin | yeah it's not in the friendly name commit msg, but did you want to document it? | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix volume migration VolumeType exception https://review.openstack.org/291963 | 21:25 |
| angela-s | kmartin: what warning? | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Use get_by_args instead of get_by_host_and_topic https://review.openstack.org/292780 | 21:25 |
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| angela-s | kmartin: friendly zone names needs to be implemented by volume drivers that want to use it. nothing for admin to configure or do. | 21:26 |
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| kmartin | angela-s, this warning in the source https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/master/doc/config-reference/source/tables/cinder-zoning_fabric.rst | 21:28 |
| angela-s | kmartin: ok. ya, i've used that tool before. will do. | 21:29 |
| kmartin | angela-s, so maybe the friendly names doesn't need to be documented in the config ref, but the other should be? | 21:29 |
| kmartin | angela-s, if you run that is should pick up the VFID and HTTP/HTTPS options | 21:30 |
| angela-s | kmartin: yeah, i can add some verbage for VF. But I thought that was why we were adding the DocImpact tag, and a new bug was getting created for Doc team. | 21:31 |
| angela-s | i do still need to update that bug with info. | 21:31 |
| angela-s | or is that for something else? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1543753 | 21:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543753 in Cinder " Adds support for configuring zoning in a virtual fabric" [Low,New] - Assigned to Angela Smith (aallen-m) | 21:32 |
| kmartin | angela-s, yeah, but are they going to know what to document? Or is the developer...I always do them myself to make sure it gets done in that release | 21:32 |
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| angela-s | ok, if you want it done right, do it yourself. gotcha. will do. thanks for the reminder. :) | 21:34 |
| kmartin | yep :) | 21:34 |
| kmartin | or done at all, they have plenty of non vendor items to document | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: Pass correct source_id to _handle_bootable_volume_glance_meta() https://review.openstack.org/293173 | 23:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Add default SSH timeout and key values https://review.openstack.org/291956 | 23:34 |
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