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| jgriffith | That has caused me great pain! | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | hmm... failed again sigh | 00:12 |
| jgriffith | Now I can't ssh to instances... OMG... I HATE YOU OPENSTACK | 00:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Remove XML API https://review.openstack.org/231663 | 08:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Use utils.convert_str to convert HTTP header values https://review.openstack.org/304462 | 09:03 |
| e0ne | scottda: please, take a look on the patch above ^^ | 09:03 |
| e0ne | scottda: it removes copy-paste, introduced in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286821/4 | 09:03 |
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| e0ne | scottda: I've found convert_str function in cinder yesterday | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races on extend and volume_upload_image https://review.openstack.org/216378 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races from consistency groups https://review.openstack.org/259429 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races from migrate and retype https://review.openstack.org/221442 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add ordering possibilities to conditional update https://review.openstack.org/231936 | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | aditi sharma proposed openstack/cinder: Backup create does not return status https://review.openstack.org/304484 | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | aditi sharma proposed openstack/cinder: Backup create does not return status https://review.openstack.org/302686 | 10:03 |
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| jordanP | hi. Someone from GlusterFS here ? | 10:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | aditi sharma proposed openstack/cinder: Backup create does not return status https://review.openstack.org/302686 | 10:19 |
| openstackgerrit | aditi sharma proposed openstack/cinder: Backup create does not return status https://review.openstack.org/302686 | 10:20 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Hi, I'm working on the problems with the version pining | 10:51 |
| geguileo | dulek: Silly question, what was the order of the node upgrades? | 10:51 |
| geguileo | during rolling upgrades | 10:51 |
| dulek | geguileo: It's supposed to be c-api, c-sch, c-vol, c-bak in case of Liberty->Mitaka. | 10:51 |
| geguileo | dulek: Ok | 10:52 |
| dulek | geguileo: In case of Mitaka->Newton last ones can be exchanged I think. | 10:52 |
| geguileo | dulek: I've solved one of the problems, I'll submit patch in a little bit | 10:52 |
| dulek | geguileo: And thanks for pointing to the traceback with your problems. | 10:52 |
| geguileo | dulek: But the other one is going to be more problematic | 10:52 |
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| dulek | geguileo: Oh, which one? The one I've commited to fix (empty service table)? | 10:53 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Probably XD XD XD | 10:53 |
| geguileo | dulek: What's the link to your patch? | 10:53 |
| dulek | geguileo: Oh, I haven't started with that actually, so no worries. ;) | 10:54 |
| geguileo | dulek: Better, I have to waste time (and even more to see that your solution is better ;-) ) | 10:54 |
| geguileo | s/have/hate | 10:54 |
| geguileo | dulek: Why do we update the API first? | 10:54 |
| geguileo | dulek: That's going to be problematic (this is the bug I'm trying to fix now) | 10:55 |
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| dulek | geguileo: So actually there shouldn't be really hard constraints on that. It just seemed logical to go topdown - as we could block on a certain microversion. | 10:56 |
| dulek | geguileo: Until everything is upgraded I mean. | 10:57 |
| geguileo | dulek: Because if the API is upgraded first, then we'll need to restart all API nodes once the upgrade is completed :-( | 10:57 |
| dulek | geguileo: But microversions got in late, so we haven't explored that possibility. | 10:57 |
| dulek | geguileo: Ah yes, that's right… | 10:57 |
| geguileo | dulek: Which I think is unnecessary | 10:57 |
| dulek | geguileo: Can you explain the problem you're seeing with this approach? | 10:57 |
| geguileo | dulek: Sure | 10:57 |
| geguileo | dulek: The problem is that when the API starts it pins the versions on the API for the rpc client and the serializer | 10:58 |
| geguileo | dulek: And never updates it | 10:58 |
| sheel | e0ne: hi | 10:58 |
| e0ne | hi | 10:58 |
| geguileo | dulek: So even if you completed the rolling upgrade | 10:58 |
| dulek | geguileo: Yeah, that's right. Moreover no SIGHUP handling was possible to be implemented easily. | 10:58 |
| geguileo | dulek: API would not know update rpc client or serializer | 10:58 |
| sheel | e0ne: its regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/remove-xml-api | 10:58 |
| blinky_ghost | hi all, I have a dell equallogic storage configured with cinder working fine. However I cannot import foreign volumes using "cinder manage": "ERROR cinder.volume.manager NotImplementedError: Manage existing volume not implemented". Is this some kind of bug or it's not supported in the driver? Thanks | 10:59 |
| sheel | e0ne: I am thinking of removing doc for XML part | 10:59 |
| dulek | geguileo: As on cinder.service level there's no access to instance of cinder.volume.api.API | 10:59 |
| sheel | e0ne: from api-site | 10:59 |
| sheel | e0ne: ok? | 10:59 |
| geguileo | dulek: So I see 2 options (I haven't given too much though since I just found out the problem) | 10:59 |
| e0ne | sheel: good idea. I've forgot about it | 10:59 |
| geguileo | well 3 | 10:59 |
| geguileo | 1- restart API nodes after upgrades (this one sucks) | 10:59 |
| sheel | e0ne: no issues, i will do it in a while... | 11:00 |
| dulek | geguileo: Sorry, I'll read that in a moment, need to go away for few minutes. | 11:00 |
| sheel | e0ne: thanks for confirmation.. | 11:00 |
| geguileo | 2- Upgrade API nodes the last (I don't like because you would nave different APIs running against an upgraded cloud) | 11:00 |
| geguileo | dulek: Ok, I'll just finish talking to the wall and you can read it when you come back ;-) | 11:00 |
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| geguileo | 3- API detects we are doing a rolling upgrade, so prediocally checks DB to see if upgrade has completed and when it does changes RPC instances | 11:01 |
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| e0ne | sheel: thank you for working on it | 11:09 |
| sheel | e0ne: :) | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303766 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303766 | 11:11 |
| dulek | geguileo: 4 - implement SIGHUP handling for cinder-api? | 11:12 |
| geguileo | dulek: What if cinder-api is run under apache? Would that still work? | 11:17 |
| dulek | geguileo: Good point, probably not. | 11:19 |
| geguileo | dulek: That's why I discarded that option :-( | 11:19 |
| dulek | geguileo: But why restart is a problem actually? If you're running an available cloud, then your APIs are probably behind HAProxy. | 11:20 |
| dulek | geguileo: You can just get them out of the cluster and restart one-by-one. | 11:21 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Well, I think it doesn't make much sense... | 11:22 |
| dulek | geguileo: What am I missing? :) | 11:23 |
| geguileo | dulek: If you upgrade your API at the end you don't need to restart them one additional time | 11:23 |
| geguileo | dulek: right? | 11:23 |
| dulek | geguileo: That's definitely right - all RPC APIs will be fine then. | 11:23 |
| geguileo | dulek: Wait... wouldn't we have something out of sync there? | 11:24 |
| geguileo | If we unpin c-sch and c-vol first, and proceed to upgrade one by one the APIs | 11:24 |
| geguileo | We would have some APIs that have new endpoints and some that don't | 11:25 |
| geguileo | And if we do it before unpinning then we have API that can try to make calls to new APIs but nobody would be available to answer those calls... | 11:25 |
| geguileo | I think this second option would be less problematic | 11:26 |
| dulek | geguileo: Yeah, that's the moment when pinning c-api to microversion comes to the picture. But wait, unpinning would probably require a restart as well… | 11:26 |
| geguileo | Fun, fun, fun!!! | 11:27 |
| dulek | geguileo: In some cases we're already returning an error for the user if he hits new API while upgrade is taking place. | 11:27 |
| dulek | geguileo: e.g. cascade on volume delete. | 11:28 |
| geguileo | I think the best way would be to upgrade API last and unpin everything else after they have been upgraded | 11:28 |
| dulek | geguileo: I think you should be able to do that even in Liberty->Mitaka upgrade. | 11:30 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Great! | 11:30 |
| dulek | geguileo: As API isn't listening for anything on RPC, it should be fine. | 11:30 |
| dulek | geguileo: I haven't tested it though. | 11:31 |
| geguileo | lol | 11:31 |
| geguileo | Well, I'll fix the 2 bugs I've found regarding pinning and hopefully my patches will pass CI then lol | 11:31 |
| dulek | What's the second bug then? :P | 11:31 |
| dulek | One is with empty services table. | 11:31 |
| geguileo | If the API is started before the other services then it also pins to None | 11:32 |
| dulek | geguileo: Oooh. These are connected, but yeah. | 11:33 |
| geguileo | dulek: Not really connected, but yeah | 11:33 |
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| geguileo | One is a problem with the order of starting your services and the other is a problem in the order of operations within a component | 11:34 |
| dulek | geguileo: But triggered by the same condition. ;) | 11:35 |
| geguileo | Yes, that's why I said "but yeah", because it's all related :-) | 11:35 |
| dulek | blinky_ghost: I've just looked through the code and it seems it's not implemented in the driver itself. | 11:39 |
| dulek | blinky_ghost: Maybe smcginnis will be able confirm when he'll be online (in 2-3 hours I think). | 11:39 |
| blinky_ghost | dulek: Ok thanks, smcginnis is responsible for this driver? | 11:40 |
| dulek | blinky_ghost: I'm not sure if he is personally, but definitely he's a Dell guy. ;) | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 1.x Backup RPC API https://review.openstack.org/297699 | 11:51 |
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| dosaboy | hi folks, i've had this patch up for review for a short while now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278629/ | 12:07 |
| dosaboy | basically cinder ceph backup is kindof broken without that | 12:07 |
| dosaboy | and has been for a few releases | 12:07 |
| dosaboy | so would be fab to have some eyes on it | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronen Mesonzhnik proposed openstack/cinder: Support backup import on another Storage database https://review.openstack.org/153969 | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 1.x scheduler RPC API https://review.openstack.org/297700 | 12:22 |
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| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: Just saw you comment. Yeah, it looks like the eql driver does not support managing existing yet. | 12:48 |
| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: IIRC, there is a blueprint out there to add it. | 12:48 |
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| sheel | e0ne: here you go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304585 | 12:58 |
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| e0ne | sheel: thanks, I'll +1 on it once CI passed | 13:02 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: maybe, your +1 is also required for the patch above ^^ | 13:02 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I'll take a look. | 13:02 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks. it's about removing xml api docs | 13:02 |
| smcginnis | Oh good! | 13:03 |
| smcginnis | Jenkins just +1'd too. | 13:03 |
| sheel | e0ne: smcginnis I have added you both as reviewer on this change | 13:03 |
| sheel | Verified+1 Jenkins | 13:03 |
| e0ne | +1'd | 13:05 |
| e0ne | scottda: thanks for the review | 13:07 |
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| sheel | e0ne: thanks | 13:08 |
| scottda | e0ne: Cool. Also, we might try to track down prometheusunbound, who filed the original bug... | 13:08 |
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| scottda | e0ne: They were running py3.x and found the issue, so they might be able to test. But he/she is not on IRC ATM. | 13:09 |
| e0ne | scottda: good point. it will be great | 13:09 |
| scottda | e0ne: I also added Haypo as a reviewer | 13:10 |
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| scottda | e0ne: I know you are busy, but it would be nice to get some quick feedback on the approach for /v3 endpoints in cinderclient: | 13:15 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300028 | 13:15 |
| e0ne | scottda: I'm setting up my end | 13:15 |
| e0ne | s/end/env | 13:16 |
| scottda | After talking with geguileo , I've moved all logic to /v3, so we can keep future changes in one place. | 13:16 |
| scottda | lots of files renamed, so don't look at the LOC, it's scary. | 13:16 |
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| e0ne | scottda: should I somehow configure my env to test your patches? | 13:21 |
| e0ne | or it's enouph to install updated cinderclient | 13:22 |
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| scottda | e0ne: Your env will need /v3 endpoint on Cinder API | 13:25 |
| scottda | There's a patch for this in Devstack...are you using Devstack? | 13:25 |
| e0ne | scottda: yes. but I can't find patch to devstack | 13:26 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300585 | 13:26 |
| e0ne | i'm using these search options: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Scott+DAngelo%22+status:open | 13:26 |
| scottda | That is owned by ameade ^^^ | 13:27 |
| e0ne | scottda: oh! you aren't an author of that patch. thanks for the link | 13:27 |
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| ildikov | scottda: hey | 13:29 |
| scottda | ildikov: hi | 13:29 |
| ildikov | scottda: did you have any chats about multiattach yesterday finally? | 13:30 |
| sheel | Hello All, could someone please send this to workflow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/ | 13:30 |
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| scottda | ildikov: No, I did not. I'm hoping we can discuss with jgriffith and hemna , but it did not happen yesterday. Maybe when you are around a little later you can ping them. | 13:31 |
| ildikov | scottda: ok, sure, will do | 13:31 |
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| blinky_ghost | smcginnis: ok thanks, do you know when it will implemented? thanks | 13:49 |
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| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: Sorry, I don't. | 13:54 |
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| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: I don't maintain that one. I'll ping some folks internally though. | 13:55 |
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| smcginnis | Email sent to that team. | 13:58 |
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| blinky_ghost | smcginnis: thanks. I'm using a pair of eql to deploy DR between sites and would be nice to get this working. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: Yeah, makes sense, especially in that scenario. | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: They are looking into it now. | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix driver.failover_host call in manager.py https://review.openstack.org/299723 | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | blinky_ghost: Not sure of other priorities, but hopefully this wouldn't take too long to add. | 14:15 |
| blinky_ghost | thanks, I think I have a solution that's using cinder lvm iscsi driver to EQL Lun but I would prefer to use the native driver of course :) | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Update SolidFire driver to store cluster info https://review.openstack.org/299745 | 14:17 |
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| mriedem_meeting | hemna: would you be able to do a nova fishbowl session on live migration at 5:20 on wed at the summit? i don't see any cinder sessions at that time | 14:40 |
| ameade | DuncanT: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298052/ responded and i agree fyi | 14:40 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks, I was hoping you would say that. :) | 14:41 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: Maybe we should start a date survey? We could separate that from the location voting, perhaps, since you've listed quite a few possibilities. | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Sure, I was thinking we could get some feedback on the ML, but maybe capturing in a survey would be good. | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I'll give it a little time in case someone points out something I missed as to why any of those weeks wouldn't work. | 14:44 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Sounds good. | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Maybe Thurs/Fri I'll send out a survey. | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Any conflicts for any of those weeks in FC? | 14:45 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: Not that I know of. As far as rooms for the midcycle we've generally plenty, but good to book early. As far as the town there are definitely better weekends before/after, i.e. brewfests, etc. | 14:46 |
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| smcginnis | Ooh, brewfests? Maybe that's relevant data to include in the decision. ;) | 14:47 |
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| scottda | smcginnis June 25-26 http://downtownfortcollins.com/events/colorado-brewers-festival | 14:51 |
| timcl | smcginnis: I just reponded to the ML that we could host in Raleigh again. Downside is summer in the South | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | timcl: Awesome, thanks! | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | timcl: I've had enough of the cold now, I could use a little heat! :) | 14:55 |
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| timcl | smcginnis: :) but it isn't the heat it is the humidity :) | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | timcl: We have neither one here, but I'm sure the novelty would wear off quickly. | 14:56 |
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| timcl | smcginnis: yes in about 30 minutes or walking from your A/C room to the hot car... | 14:57 |
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| smcginnis | ;) | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Fix service version pinning on start https://review.openstack.org/304685 | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Fix RPC and Object version pinning on API https://review.openstack.org/304686 | 15:06 |
| geguileo | dulek: ^ Those are the 2 patches | 15:06 |
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| DuncanT | Dublin is nice in the summer.... civilised amounts of warm, and hopefully not too much rain | 15:13 |
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| e0ne | DuncanT: will we have a next meetup there? | 15:15 |
| DuncanT | e0ne: I will certainly put it on the ballot | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Just started the discussion on the ML. | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | Dublin! | 15:16 |
| anteaya | DuncanT: how's the dancing in Dublin? | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: I was impressed by how much tech has built up there. A lot of development since I was there in 2000. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | anteaya: Hah! | 15:17 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:17 |
| DuncanT | anteaya: Of course | 15:17 |
| DuncanT | anteaya: The dancing is great | 15:17 |
| anteaya | smcginnis: let's not fool ourselves, eh? | 15:17 |
| anteaya | DuncanT: Dublin!! | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | anteaya: Gotta have priorities. ;) | 15:17 |
| DuncanT | anteaya: At least the swing, blues, salsa and irish dancing | 15:17 |
| anteaya | smcginnis: indeed | 15:17 |
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| anteaya | glad wifi made the list | 15:18 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | hehe | 15:18 |
| anteaya | DuncanT: oh, irish dancing | 15:18 |
| anteaya | Dublin would be a good place for that | 15:18 |
| DuncanT | anteaya: The south west is far better for it, but there's some to be found in Dublin | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | more than in texas I bet | 15:20 |
| DuncanT | Well, the best Caeli class I've found was in San Francisco, so you might be surprised | 15:21 |
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| karthikp | Does anybody know to return a Oslo Volume versioned object in test casees | 15:22 |
| lprice1 | jgriffith: Can you give me a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246990/ when you get a chance? | 15:25 |
| hemna_ | HPE folks won't make Dublin. | 15:27 |
| DuncanT | hemna_: That might be solvable | 15:27 |
| Swanson | that's why they're going | 15:28 |
| hemna_ | we asked last time it was raised and our mgmt said no immediately. | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/302873 | 15:28 |
| Swanson | The PTL is selling Grit door to door to get enough money to go. | 15:29 |
| Swanson | (I am so old.) | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Grit? | 15:29 |
| DuncanT | lprice1: Can to E-Series not do per-export secrets? | 15:30 |
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| mc_nair | karthikp: are you talking about something like this - https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/tests/unit/test_volume.py#L3566? | 15:37 |
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| lprice1 | DuncanT: E-Series is capable of Bi-directional CHAP, but the target chap secret is global, if that's what you're asking. It isn't capable of different secrets for each initiator (on the target side). | 15:39 |
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| DuncanT | lprice1: basically I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246990/ and wondering why it doesn't generate a chat secret randomly at export time like the LVM driver does, which has substantial security benefits | 15:40 |
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| lprice1 | DuncanT: Let me take a closer look at that and get back to you. If I understand correctly, then yes, I would think the driver would be capable of generating them at export time. | 15:50 |
| karthikp | mc_nair, i actually need to create a volume object instead of a volume dict .. | 15:51 |
| karthikp | mc_nair, can I use something like tests_utils.create_volume? | 15:51 |
| DuncanT | lprice1: I think it would be an improvement | 15:51 |
| DuncanT | lprice1: I've also got investigating bi-directional CHAP on my todo list... it would hopefully be useful too | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | does cinder have any kind of support for iSCSI+IPSec? | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | because IPSec might also improve security | 15:53 |
| mriedem | scottda: smcginnis: hemna: jgriffith: fyi nova is going to have a session on live migration on wed at 5:20 at the summit, there are no cinder sessions at that time; it's not going to be all about cinder, but volumes might come up so we probably want some cinder people in the room | 15:54 |
| mriedem | at least hemna | 15:54 |
| scottda | mriedem: Sounds good. I reckon I'll be there. | 15:55 |
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| mc_nair | karthikp: So https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/tests/unit/utils.py#L77 does appear to return a volume object. This utility is may be what you were looking for, but it does essentially what that other link does - creates a Volume object based on a dict | 15:57 |
| karthikp | mc_nair, perfect thanks! | 15:58 |
| mc_nair | karthikp: sure thing | 16:00 |
| mriedem | mc_nair: any chance you could take a look at this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1565859 it's about libvirt volume detach timing out (failing) with storwize as the backend | 16:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1565859 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Can't detach SVC volume from an instance; guest detach device times out" [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
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| mc_nair | mriedem: sure - will take a look | 16:01 |
| mriedem | mc_nair: thanks | 16:02 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: hemna it is | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-cinderclient: Graduate to oslo.i18n and cleanup incubator usage https://review.openstack.org/294751 | 16:04 |
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| avishay | smcginnis: hey sean, thanks for the feedback on the list manageable patch. i thought it would be useful to get feedback from some vendor representatives in tomorrow's weekly meeting. is the agenda under "tomorrow's meeting" actually for tomorrow, even though it is listed as April 6? (the first meeting under "previous meetings" is also april 6) | 16:06 |
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| ildikov | jgriffith hemna_: hi. can we aim for having the multiattach discussion some time today scottda pinged us about yesterday? | 16:09 |
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| hemna_ | sure | 16:10 |
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| ildikov | coolio, let's see what others say | 16:13 |
| ildikov | hemna_: have you progressed further with the diagrams? | 16:13 |
| ildikov | hemna_: I saw that the last version of the attach one is v13 IIRC | 16:13 |
| ildikov | on Gliffy | 16:13 |
| scottda | ildikov: I'm in for a discussion, but we need jgriffith .... | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | scottda: sure | 16:14 |
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| jgriffith | ildikov: scottda hemna_ what time? | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | channel etc | 16:14 |
| ildikov | I think we can keep it here | 16:15 |
| ildikov | and I can adapt regarding time | 16:15 |
| scottda | I'm pretty flexible all day. Best before 16:00 MDT/ 22:00 UTC and it's already getting late for ildikov ... | 16:15 |
| scottda | now? or top of the hour (11:00 MDT/17:00 UTC)? | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | Just let me know, I'll adjust. Can do right now even if that works | 16:15 |
| ildikov | what I would like to know and was asked by mriedem also a short while ago, whether we know now which alternative to choose, what was the otcome of your discussion about #2 and #4 | 16:16 |
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| ildikov | I'm available now as well | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: honestly I they're not really different IMO | 16:16 |
| ildikov | hemna_? | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: but reserve IMO should not be changed from being a simple reserve | 16:17 |
| scottda | I think #2 and #4 are close enough. Just a small detail about attachment_id being returned in 1 of 2 possible places. | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: I'm not going to spend my morning arguing this though :) | 16:17 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: that's a good news IMHO :) | 16:17 |
| scottda | I also think we could punt on that detail for now.... | 16:17 |
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| scottda | And so real question is What next? A Cinder spec for this? | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | If there's agreement in the approach, I'd prefer to just go and finish the code | 16:17 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: hmm, I thought you sorted this out with hemna_ last time :) | 16:17 |
| ildikov | I mean reserve | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: not sure what you mean? | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: oh, the purpose of reserve? | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | Yeah, I don't care anymore | 16:18 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: that you said you don't want to argue about 'reserve' and I remember I saw your chat with hemna_ last week after the meeting here and I thought you sorted that aspect out as well | 16:18 |
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| jgriffith | ildikov: no we sorted out that hemna_ didn't see the code in my patch due to a gerritt viewing issue | 16:19 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: yes, sorry, I'm less fresh by now even if it's not that late and that affects my typing "style" :) | 16:19 |
| scottda | Let's step back a bit.... | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: I'd propose I just continue with my patch | 16:20 |
| scottda | jgriffith: Do you think this needs a spec? | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | if folks don't like it or it doesn't work then cool | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | scottda: absolutely not | 16:20 |
| ildikov | scottda: yeah sure, sorry | 16:20 |
| scottda | ok, I'm good with that. | 16:20 |
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| ildikov | jgriffith: is there any API change in what you're doing? | 16:20 |
| scottda | I reckon the next step would be for jgriffith to move on with the patch then... | 16:20 |
| ildikov | or your change will not add new visible things | 16:21 |
| scottda | And once we see what the API changes regarding what is returned to Nova (attachment_id) we can look at what needs to change in Nova. | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: yes, there's an optional retrun from attach, but with the exception of my *next* patch that's completely internal between Cinder and Nova only | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | scottda: ildikov keep in mind that for now, the only consumer of those API calls are Nova | 16:21 |
| scottda | Question: Does Nova need a spec for this? mriedem or ildikov ? | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | scottda: Nova will need something, because there will be more change there | 16:22 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I asked it from a spec and microversioning perspective rather than anything technical | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: got ya | 16:22 |
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| mriedem | scottda: i'm not following the conversation, spec for what? | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: I'll leave it to you and scottda... I'm trying to stay out of microversions and specs | 16:23 |
| mriedem | spec for multiattach, yes, there is one | 16:23 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I think it's better to capture these things in written form as well even if code talks the best to be able to track why we changed the code | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: spec for changes to nova | 16:23 |
| mriedem | yes | 16:23 |
| scottda | mriedem: spec for NOva if Cinder API changes to return something that is not currently returned... | 16:23 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I cannot blame you for that :) | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: my suggestion is wait til I have some sort of POC code (or somebody does) | 16:23 |
| mriedem | well, | 16:23 |
| scottda | i.e. attachment_id will not be returned during intialize_connection() | 16:23 |
| mriedem | cinder will be making api changes, which nova will use as part of the multiattach spec | 16:23 |
| mriedem | i considered it a dependency of the nova multiattach spec | 16:23 |
| mriedem | not separate | 16:23 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: agree with you on needing cinder POC first | 16:24 |
| scottda | OK, just checking on timing of Nova specs, since there are deadlines, etc. | 16:24 |
| ildikov | mriedem: it can be dependency, I agree but I would like to have a separate document to not mix clear multiattach things with this | 16:24 |
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| ildikov | scottda: if we want multiattach in for Newton in Nova then I kind of doubt we will loose this battle due to spec deadlines | 16:25 |
| hemna_ | there isn't a lot of difference between what I had proposed and what jgriffith has and I'm just tired of arguing so alt #4 is dead IMHO. | 16:25 |
| ildikov | also I think we should be able to capture what we want to do after the summit | 16:26 |
| mriedem | ildikov: i'm not sure what the new thing is | 16:26 |
| mriedem | storing connector info in the vol attachment? | 16:26 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: i think we need to go into the summit thinking we need to come out of it knowing what we're going to do | 16:26 |
| scottda | ildikov: I'm not sure what you mean about losing the battle? I'm just trying to figure out what it will take for Nova to change to work with jgriffith Alt#2 changes.... | 16:26 |
| ildikov | mriedem: storing and using that, figuring out how many other places we are using attachment_id compared to today, etc | 16:26 |
| mriedem | ildikov: if cinder is going to change the api and nova needs to use the new api regardless of multiattach, then that's probably fine as it's own specless blueprint | 16:27 |
| mriedem | unless it changes the nova api behavior, then it needs a spec | 16:27 |
| ildikov | scottda: I meant the deadlines, as we're trying to add this to Nova for a while now | 16:27 |
| ildikov | mriedem: cool, that sounds good to me | 16:28 |
| scottda | OK, so it sounds like we don't need a Nova spec. So....jgriffith Can please move on with the code.... | 16:28 |
| scottda | and whenever code is stable, *someone* can look at what Nova changes will look like. | 16:29 |
| scottda | and start POC for the Nova code. | 16:29 |
| ildikov | scottda: we will still need to capture what we will do in Nova, but we can do it after jgriffith has a PoC and we have a better idea how that will actually work | 16:29 |
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| ildikov | I'm happy to chime in regarding the Nova PoC part | 16:29 |
| scottda | ildikov: Sounds like we are in sync :) | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: good, then I'll ask you for help :) | 16:30 |
| ildikov | maybe even before having that code very stable just to at least understand the impacts | 16:30 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I wanted to ask you for help, but maybe we both go to mriedem for this purpose :) | 16:30 |
| scottda | OK. Anything else we need to work through? | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: haha.... perhaps :) | 16:31 |
| scottda | And if we've a meeting for tomorrow, is there anything we would need to discuss there? | 16:31 |
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| ildikov | scottda: I sent out the reminder to the list | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add failed_over detection to SolidFire driver https://review.openstack.org/299748 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Implement Cluster Pairing for SolidFire Driver https://review.openstack.org/299746 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Implement replicate_volume & failover on SolidFire https://review.openstack.org/299747 | 16:31 |
| scottda | ildikov: But what is the agenda? | 16:31 |
| ildikov | scottda: we have several things for multiattach | 16:31 |
| mriedem | ildikov: go to me for what purpose? | 16:32 |
| mriedem | writing the nova code to use the new cinder api changes? | 16:32 |
| scottda | ildikov: OK, just checking. We can certainly have a meeting if needed. | 16:32 |
| ildikov | it's also a question how much we would like to check hemna_'s diagrams for instance | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: don't worry ;) Just saying that if we got hung up on something on the nova side | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: ie a tech consult etc | 16:32 |
| hemna_ | I'm still working on live migration fwiw | 16:32 |
| ildikov | mriedem: answering the stupid questions of mine and jgriffith's valid ones so that we can write it | 16:32 |
| scottda | hemna_: Cool. Those diagrams are great, and useful for more beyond this specific issue. | 16:33 |
| ildikov | scottda: +1 | 16:33 |
| hemna_ | scottda, thanks. | 16:33 |
| hemna_ | I'm thinking it sure would be nice to have those for other Cinder things internally | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Tests: Fail if oslo.versionedobjects issues Invalid UUID warnings https://review.openstack.org/300189 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix uuid warnings from test_db_api unit tests https://review.openstack.org/300730 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Tests: Fix invalid UUIDs in EMC VNX tests https://review.openstack.org/293119 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: fix invalid uuid warnings from test_quota https://review.openstack.org/297854 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: fix invalid uuid in emc extremio unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297848 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix fake uuids in NetApp ESeries unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297363 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix invalid uuids in tintri unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297379 | 16:33 |
| hemna_ | but they are time consuming to create | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: fix invalid uuid warnings from test_cmd https://review.openstack.org/297866 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix invalid uuids in EMC scaleio unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297375 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix uuid warnings from db unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297255 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix invalid uuids in sheepdog unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297453 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix uuid warnings from api.contrib backup tests https://review.openstack.org/304767 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix admin_actions uuid warnings in api.contrib https://review.openstack.org/304768 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix CG uuid warnings in api.contrib unit tests https://review.openstack.org/304769 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix qos_manage uuid warnings in api.contrib tests https://review.openstack.org/304770 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix vol type/spec uuid warnings in api.contrib https://review.openstack.org/304771 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: Fix volume test uuid warnings in api.contrib https://review.openstack.org/304772 | 16:33 |
| ildikov | hemna_: have you started detach as well or that's still on my plate? | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | tbarron: dirty dog you!! | 16:34 |
| mriedem | ildikov: ok | 16:34 |
| hemna_ | detach is done | 16:34 |
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| hemna_ | it's already up | 16:34 |
| hemna_ | check the ether pad for the link | 16:34 |
| tbarron | jgriffith: :) | 16:34 |
| ildikov | hemna_: ok, cool, I missed it | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | tbarron: why get one commit for fixing UUID warnings when you can get 10 :) Seriously, I do like having them split out... just messing with ya | 16:35 |
| ildikov | hemna_: it was too high on the page :) | 16:35 |
| hemna_ | ildikov, http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10381829/L.png | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | tbarron: much more pleasant to review | 16:35 |
| ildikov | hemna_: but found it, thanks! | 16:35 |
| hemna_ | np | 16:35 |
| tbarron | jgriffith: that's the idea, plus reducing the scope of merge conflicts on any particular patch | 16:36 |
| hemna_ | live migration is quite a bit more complicated, so it's taking some time to get done | 16:36 |
| ildikov | hemna_: nice one | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add api-version to get server versions https://review.openstack.org/303627 | 17:20 |
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| jgriffith | xyang1: ping | 18:02 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: hi | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: howdy | 18:02 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: how are you | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: hey, saw your note about release notes... good idea :) | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: I'm alright, thanks... you? | 18:03 |
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| xyang1 | jgriffith: I am good | 18:03 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: so are you adding release notes? | 18:03 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: I was wondering if you knew of a doc on how we do that correctly? | 18:03 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: yes, I thought I'd work on adding them right now :) | 18:03 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: sure, let me find out:) | 18:03 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: there is a command | 18:04 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: ahh... yay for automation | 18:04 |
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| jgriffith | xyang1: ahh... looks like it's in the tox file now | 18:05 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: oh, found it? | 18:05 |
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| jgriffith | xyang1: found *something* :) | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Add VolumeAttachStatus Enum https://review.openstack.org/290885 | 18:06 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: found the doc, added to the review | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: perfect, thanks! | 18:07 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: welcome | 18:07 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: I didn't realize you did not implement cheesecake in your driver in Mitaka | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: nope | 18:08 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: I split the tiramisu spec into two, generic volume group has its own spec now. can you review them when you get chance | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: yes, I will... and thanks for doing that | 18:09 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: looks cleaner this way. generic group has a lot already | 18:10 |
| Swanson | Daily post to see if anyone could take a look at this one ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300118/ | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Implement replicate_volume & failover on SolidFire https://review.openstack.org/299747 | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: for you? Nahhh | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:14 |
| Swanson | :) | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: dang it!! 1100 lines :( | 18:14 |
| Swanson | It is huge and I think that terrifies people. | 18:15 |
| Swanson | But most of the changes are uuid stuff. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: does it work? | 18:15 |
| Swanson | Yeppers | 18:15 |
| Swanson | Test dude hasn't poked at it but it has passed my tests. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: what happens in an upgrade? | 18:16 |
| Swanson | If provider_id isn't found I operate as I have. | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: ahh.. yeah, found it | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Add SnapshotStatus enum field https://review.openstack.org/284825 | 18:16 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, replication made that something of a nightmare. | 18:17 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: yeah, no kidding. Just wait til some are on one backend and others on a different one :( | 18:17 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: and they're all still active.... train-wreck | 18:17 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, Yeah, I have some issues with that. As I'm currently working out failback... | 18:18 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, actually, that's a question. When someone fails back a backend is there something that prevents the user from attaching to those volumes? Can I just set myself to some kind of in process state and error out until I'm done? | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: personally I think failback and it's derivatives is a bad idea | 18:20 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: but, it would work just like failing over works currently | 18:20 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: just treat it the same way we do now | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: I think there was somebody else that raised a potential issue because their backend takes a long time to fail over | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | but not sure | 18:21 |
| swamireddy | Hi | 18:24 |
| swamireddy | I got the below err when I tried to create a volume from an image | 18:25 |
| swamireddy | cinder.volume.manager InvalidArgument: error creating clone | 18:25 |
| swamireddy | I use the ceph as backend for cinder and glance | 18:25 |
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| Swanson | jgriffith, Thanks for the review! | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: np | 18:29 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, so fundamentally assume the user understands what they are doing and just go for it. | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: you better check with others, I seem to not know what I'm talking about half the time :) | 18:29 |
| smcginnis | That just seems like a scary thing to assume. | 18:30 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: see... told ya :) | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | But probably what we'll have to do. | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | :) | 18:30 |
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| Swanson | smcginnis, jgriffith, One path leads to hopelessness and the other to total despair. Let's hope we have the wisdom to choose wisely. | 18:32 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z05StkAKKF0 | 18:35 |
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| eharney | anyone want to review this patch to add pylint to cinderclient? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302960/ | 19:15 |
| eharney | i'd like to get that up and going before we add too many changes to cinderclient in Newton | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Updated to utilize provider_id https://review.openstack.org/300118 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix invalid uuids in sheepdog unit tests https://review.openstack.org/297453 | 20:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Danny Al-Gaaf proposed openstack/cinder: Fix doc and source documentation errors and warning https://review.openstack.org/293050 | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Tests: Define fake_constants as constants https://review.openstack.org/304861 | 20:58 |
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| guitarzan | hmm, anyone see this before? "DetachedInstanceError: Parent instance <Volume at 0x7fb1934188d0> is not bound to a Session; lazy load operation of attribute 'volume_admin_metadata' cannot proceed\n" | 21:14 |
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| eharney | guitarzan: not in particular, but i think that's a class of error related to bugs in our objects code | 21:28 |
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| guitarzan | eharney: this is liberty doesn't have full objects right? | 21:29 |
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| guitarzan | missed a word in there somewhere | 21:29 |
| eharney | guitarzan: right, but, still a bug | 21:30 |
| guitarzan | sure | 21:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/302877 | 23:13 |
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| hogepodge | smcginnis: can I ping you on this again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290271/ | 23:43 |
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