Wednesday, 2016-07-13

vasanthiIf the CI run scheduled for our review failed due to a transient network error. But the job right after it, which was also running off the latest patch of the said review, completed successfully. Is there ny way to re-reuat a CI run for a review?00:01
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OSNEXUSseems nodepool is trying to create nodes, failing, then attempting to create a new node00:02
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vasanthiIf the CI run scheduled for our review failed due to a transient network error. But the job right after it, which was also running off the latest patch of the said review, completed successfully. Is there ny way to re-reuat a CI run for a review?00:03
vasanthiIs there a way to re-request a CI run for a review?00:04
smcginnis_vasanthi: Jenkins failed?00:04
vasanthiJenkins passed00:04
vasanthiiSCSI CI also passed00:04
vasanthiFC CI failed in rescue_detach_volume test00:05
smcginnis_vasanthi: So third party CI failed? CI's vary in their recheck trigger, but our last official statement was "run-{CI NAME}" should retrigger.00:05
vasanthiThe job that ran right after it (that also runs off of the same patch of the review) passed00:05
vasanthilet me try that00:05
vasanthithanks Sean00:06
smcginnis_vasanthi: No problem. Hopefully that does it. Do you have a link to the patch?00:06
vasanthiis there a space between run and the "--"?00:06
smcginnis_vasanthi: It really depends if the CI operator set it up right, but we've been using run-name with no space.00:08
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smcginnis_vasanthi: Do you know who there operates your CI? I'm assuming your with Violin, right?00:08
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smcginnis_vasanthi: Do you know gfreeman? There's some contact info here:
vasanthiHow long after the issue the trigger typically does the job get queued?00:10
smcginnis_I've only found that wiki information about 60% reliable though.00:10
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smcginnis_vasanthi: It should queue up right away. How long it takes to actually run it really depends on the system though.00:13
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vasanthiSean: Garfield and myself are intact looking at this together00:18
vasanthihe is also not sure how to re-requent the ci run00:19
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smcginnis_vasanthi: I take it whoever set up the CI is not available?00:23
smcginnis_vasanthi: If it's a Jenkins based CI and you have access to the system, take a look in layout.yaml IIRC.00:23
vasanthino, that person is not available with the company anymore00:23
vasanthithe run-{CI name} that you suggested, is to be posted on the review right?00:24
smcginnis_vasanthi: That's a little scary. Someone better get up to speed on how the CI is set up before there's any major issues with it.00:24
smcginnis_vasanthi: Correct.00:24
smcginnis_vasanthi: So if that worked, you should be able to log in to you Jenkins UI and see a job running for it.00:24
smcginnis_vasanthi: Again, assuming you are using a Jenkins based CI.00:25
smcginnis_vasanthi: I don't, so I'm kind of shooting in the dark with advice here.00:25
vasanthiI am looking at the Zuul queue and don't see my review posted for a run there00:25
vasanthiyes, we are using Jenkins based CI00:25
patrickeastssh into your zull host and look at /etc/zuul/layout/layout.yaml00:26
patrickeastit will show what it is set to trigger off of00:26
vasanthithere are quite a few jobs in queue since we had to take down the system for maintenance for a while00:26
smcginnis_vasanthi: This may give some clues what to look for:
vasanthithanks Patrick. Let me try that00:27
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smcginnis_vasanthi: But now that patrickeast has piped up, I defer to the expert. :)00:27
smcginnis_patrickeast: I should get you a CI expert merit badge.00:28
smcginnis_merit badge being another term for "beer" ;)00:28
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patrickeastthat sounds like a great plan00:29
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gfreemansomeone is talking about me..?00:30
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei:Correct some spelling mistakes and messages
gfreemanvasanthi:  i'm here00:32
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei:Correct some spelling mistakes and messages
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vasanthiPatric, here is the set of triggers defined in our layout.yaml00:34
vasanthi    trigger:       gerrit:         - event: patchset-created         - event: change-restored         - event: comment-added           comment: (?i)^(Patch Set [0-9]+:)?( [\w\\+-]*)*(\n\n)?\s*recheck(( (?:bug|lp)[\s#:]*(\d+))|( no bug))\s*$00:34
vasanthiI see recheck but no "run"00:34
vasanthiso If I just did recheck would it fire?00:34
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei:Correct some spelling mistakes and messages
smcginnis_vasanthi: It will also cause Jenkins to kick off another run as well.00:34
vasanthihmmm, that may be ok though, no?00:35
smcginnis_The infra Jenkins (zuul) that is.00:35
smcginnis_vasanthi: If that's what it will take to get your CI to run again. But if you have a lot of outstanding jobs in the queue, it might already be there and doing a recheck will just cause it to queue up again.00:36
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smcginnis_Shoot, gotta pick up the offspring. Will be back online later.00:36
gfreemansmcginnis_ / vasanthi:  i don't see 269796 in the zuul queue right now00:37
vasanthiI don't see it in the queue, it failed the previous run as I mentioned which was a transient error00:37
vasanthishal I issue RECHECK then?00:37
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jgriffithgfreeman: that's because it's already passed00:38
gfreemanvasanthi:  maybe go for it?  there are some 20 jobs ahead if you reissue right now00:38
vasanthii just issued recheck00:38
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gfreemanjgriffith:  yeah, i was looking to see if it showed up again for whatever reason after the last run; the fc job failed, but the iscsi job was ok00:39
jgriffithgfreeman: what CI are you referring to?00:40
jgriffithgfreeman: the zuul/ is just the official gate jobs00:40
gfreemanjgriffith:  the same one vasanthi is talking about:  the violin memory ci00:40
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jgriffithgfreeman: do you know who maintains the Violin CI system?00:42
vasanthiJohn: that fc failure is rather unfortunate! The job right after it, which also ran off of the same patch of the review, passed00:42
gfreemanjgriffith:  that would be me right now  >_>00:42
jgriffithgfreeman: if you don't have a recheck string set up, or don't know what it is you could certainly just issue "recheck" generically again.  It won't hurt anything00:42
jgriffithgfreeman: :)00:42
vasanthiIt was a transient error where Nova could not find the path to the attached volume in time00:43
gfreemanjgriffith:  yeah, what vasanthi said (we're both kinda troubleshooting this right now)00:43
jgriffithgfreeman: yeah, so if you don't know how to issue recheck on your CI, you can certainly try 'recheck', you can also push an update to the commit message and just make everything run again :)00:44
gfreemanjgriffith:  based on the trigger, it looks like just doing "recheck" should work.  but yeah, we'd be #21 in our queue00:44
jgriffithgfreeman: yeah, that's a bummer :(00:44
gfreemanjgriffith:  definitely wouldn't finish running our job today00:44
jgriffithgfreeman: I've been there sadly00:45
gfreemanjgriffith:  yeah00:45
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vasanthiis today the deadline or is it the 14th?01:04
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OSNEXUSvasanthi I believe it's tomorrow night01:06
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vasanthiPatric, John: I issued recheck, how do I know if triggered anything? I don't see my review in my Zuul queue yet, my be its running jenkins checks?01:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Add trace facility
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openstackgerritxiaoqin proposed openstack/cinder: Add multipath enhancement to Storwize iSCSI driver
openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/cinder: Not convert charset and engine of mysql tables
openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/cinder: Not convert charset and engine of mysql tables
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openstackgerritlg.yue proposed openstack/cinder: add metadata length check to volume-manage
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openstackgerritVasanthi Thirumalai proposed openstack/cinder: Violin Memory iSCSI storage for 7000 series AFA
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yuelongguanghi, unit test hangs after 'cinder.tests.unit.zonemanager.test_fc_zone_manager.TestFCZoneManager.test_delete_connection  ok'04:03
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yuelongguangdid  you meet that before?04:04
yuelongguanghi, Gao04:05
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Switch to keystoneauth
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smcginnis_yuelongguang: I have not seen that before. Maybe wait some time to see if it is just hung for a while. It may be a sign that something went in that uses time.sleep in the code, but the unit tests that go through that code path failed to mock it out so it does not actually sleep.04:12
openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder: Change NFS driver to not throw exception without nfs shares file
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yuelongguangsmcginnis_, it hangs for more than two hours04:44
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openstackgerrithuanan proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Support backup snapshot
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openstackgerritlg.yue proposed openstack/cinder: add metadata length check to volume-manage
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Srinuhi.  when the nodepool image updated then it is not launching the nodepool vm and not booting properly05:20
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Add backup update function (microversion)
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/cinder: Make the volume-manage doc be more generic
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Replace key manager with Castellan
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/cinder: Make the volume-manage doc be more general
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jiaohaolinHi! Is there anybody know about the deadline of submit code of ocata version ?06:23
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openstackgerritSoffie Huang proposed openstack/cinder: FalconStor: New Cinder driver in Newton
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Catch GlanceMetadataNotFound in creating cgsnp
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openstackgerritEdu Alcaniz proposed openstack/os-brick: +1
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maestropandywould like to know solution for this bug pls
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595836 in devstack "Devstack- Cinder Volume failed to initialize driver " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Syed Ahsan Shamim Zaidi (ahsanmohsin04)07:49
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openstackgerritPony Chou proposed openstack/cinder: Add QNAP ES Storage Driver
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Testing latest u-c
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Testing latest u-c
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openstackgerritArsen Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Revise Synology DSM storage driver
dulekjiaohaolin: Ocata deadlines are TBD until Ocata Summit -
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/cinder: Trivial: Use fake.VOLUME_ID instead of id
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Update detach_volume() with versionedobjects
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jiaohaolindelek: I know about that.I mean according the openstack roadmap,the deadline of ocata should be before Junurary.Am I right?09:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Use default provisioning type from config
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jiaohaolindelek: I know about that.I mean according the openstack roadmap,the deadline of ocata should be before Junurary.Am I right?09:15
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openstackgerritPony Chou proposed openstack/cinder: Add QNAP ES Storage Driver
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Testing latest u-c
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openstackgerritSergii Turivnyi proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add Negative tests for cinder volume create command
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openstackgerritlg.yue proposed openstack/cinder: add metadata length check to volume-manage
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openstackgerritPony Chou proposed openstack/cinder: Add QNAP ES Storage Driver
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openstackgerritJiWei proposed openstack/cinder: Implement nfs manage/unmanage of a volume
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openstackgerritShay Halsband proposed openstack/cinder: XtremIO: support of snapshot manage commands
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/cinder: [doc] Fix a non-alphabetical order bug
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serg_Hello. Would be grateful if you could review my patch
serg_It’s tests for CLI12:27
serg_“Negative tests for cinder volume create command”12:27
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Add functional test to new API functions
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Send additional connection info
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scottdaDoes anyone know how to ping ? I don't see any IRC handle that looks similar.12:53
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scottdaIt's regarding the stuck-ness of
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ildikovscottda: hey12:55
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ildikovscottda: I got some changes that makes my one functional test work at leats locally:
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ildikovscottda: I'm not sure what would be the preferred way forward here though12:56
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scottdaildikov: I'll look. thanks12:57
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ildikovscottda: BTW, that stuck review would be needed for your tempest tests, right?12:57
ildikovscottda: cool, thanks12:57
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dulekscottda: Looks like bkopilov is his handle:
ildikovscottda: I don't know how much work you plan on tests in Cinder, so I did not plan to add much more for now, I just wanted to have something to start with12:58
dulekscottda: Not a talkative guy it seems. ;)12:58
ildikovscottda: any suggestions are very welcomed of course :)12:58
scottdaildikov: Yes, that patch of bkopilov's is needed for test_volume_migrate_attached12:59
scottdadulek: Thanks.13:00
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/os-brick: Add connector for vmdk volumes
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dulekgeguileo: Hey, I've finally managed to run attach-detach operations on a clustered services with your patches! They are getting beautifully scattered between the nodes. :)13:18
geguileodulek: Yeah, it should be a round-robin13:19
dulekgeguileo: However I needed to manually set cluster_name in the DB for the volume. I cannot find the patch that adds it.13:19
geguileodulek: If you do git review -d #lastpatch it should be there13:19
geguileodulek: And you should just have to add the cluster configuration option13:19
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dulekgeguileo: I have today's version of the patches. And all of my services have cluster config option set.13:21
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dulekgeguileo: Which on in the chain implements setting that field?13:21
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adrianofre0ne: ping13:21
e0neadrianofr: hi13:21
geguileodulek: When you finish the rolling upgrade and restart the service it is done automatically13:21
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adrianofre0ne: Hey. Regarding your comment here
dulekgeguileo: Ouch, I might not restarted all of the services correctly, retrying.13:23
adrianofre0ne: Is it a problem to put in the CONF the specific options for my driver?13:23
adrianofre0ne: I know it's a problem when it affects the global options13:24
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e0neadrianofr: it could cause errors with multithreading13:24
e0neadrianofr: global opts or driver speciffic - it's the same13:24
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dulekgeguileo: Nope, I'm creating a new volume that gets scheduled to a backend handled by two clustered services and cluster_name for it gets NULL.13:25
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e0neadrianofr: you're asking me something like: "I know, my code is not perfect, but let's merge it"13:25
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geguileodulek: Yes, because the scheduler isn't on HA A/A yet, I'm working on that13:25
e0neadrianofr: from my point of view: it doesn't metter what we change in global config for tests13:25
geguileodulek: I meant that already created ones will be added to the cluster13:25
e0neadrianofr: we should not do it13:25
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adrianofre0ne: Ok. I see. Just wanted to understand why this is a problem13:26
adrianofre0ne: No problem about fixing this :)13:26
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/cinder: [doc] Fix dev-ref about 'os-vol-image-meta'
e0neadrianofr: good to know that we're on the same page about it :)13:27
dulekgeguileo: Isn't it just as easy as setting cluster_name column when we're setting host column?13:27
geguileodulek: That part is the easy one13:27
adrianofre0ne: But I really don't know how to mock this thing13:27
geguileodulek: The hard part is to change the scheduler to aggregate by cluster13:27
adrianofre0ne: do you have an example or something to help?13:27
dulekgeguileo: I understand cluster-aware scheduling is more complicated.13:27
geguileodulek: And only take into account the latest capabilities13:27
geguileodulek: Yep, that's the problem13:27
e0neadrianofr: sure, give me 5 mins, please13:28
dulekgeguileo: Oh, this totally sounds complicated. Okay, getting back to testing.13:28
geguileodulek: It is a pita13:28
adrianofre0ne: sure :)13:28
e0neadrianofr: need a bit time to finish rebase and find a good example13:28
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adrianofre0ne: No problem. I'll be here trying to figure out something13:29
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/os-brick: Local attach feature in RBD connector
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e0neadrianofr: you can do something like
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e0neadrianofr: or use
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e0neadrianofr: feel free to ping me if you've got any questions13:36
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adrianofre0ne: Nice! Thank you for  the help13:37
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e0neadrianofr: you're welcome13:38
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xinlidulek: could you please help to review 251989:
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FransUrboI wonder if there's someone out there that can help me port to Mitaka?13:52
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DuncanTFransUrbo: other than needing to move to the new target model, it looks quite reasonable code, I wouldn't expect it to be particularly troublesome to port13:56
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FransUrboI'm glad to hear that! It's on the very top of my use-cases :). Do you think you can spend some time on it?13:57
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DuncanTTime is, unfortunately, not something I've got a lot of at the moment, sorry13:57
FransUrbo:). Know that feeling :D13:58
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FransUrboDuncanT: Do you know of a howto or some other information where I can read up on how to port it "to the new target model"?14:02
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DuncanTFransUrbo: Personally I@d start by trying to copy the LVM driver14:02
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DuncanTThere's a drivers section in the devref too14:04
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FransUrboGot a link to that?14:07
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smcginnisFransUrbo: You can also look under cinder/interface/ to see some of the expected driver methods with some decent docstrings explaining each.14:13
FransUrboThanx. I'll have a look at both.14:13
smcginnisFransUrbo: I'm hoping to get things set up to publish those docstrings to the devref automatically in the near future, but the source is pretty readable.14:13
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bhagyashriDuncanT: could you please review the patch ?14:18
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openstackgerritDigvijay Ukirde proposed openstack/cinder: Changing "driver_volume_type" flag of GPFS driver to "local"
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erlonscottda: hey14:23
erlonscottda: will we have the test-meeting today?14:23
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openstackgerritKedar Vidvans proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes ZFSSANFS driver
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scottdaerlon: Yes, I was planning on it...14:29
scottdaBut I might be 5-10 minutes late14:29
erlonscottda: ok, ill rush to lunch then14:29
smcginnisscottda: I might have to miss part (or all) of it.14:29
scottdaerlon: The only thing I put on the agenda is to prepare for the mid-cycle next week. Just to get people thinking about what we should discuss at a session.14:30
smcginnisRidiculous day for meetings for me. :[14:30
scottdasmcginnis: Yeah, meeting Wednesday14:30
smcginnisOn the plus side, I've mostly been able to get meetings to fall on Wednesday, so my other days have gotten better.14:31
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erlonscottda: mhm I have nothing in special,  just updates about the tempest tests, and the fix for create_from patch14:31
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scottdaerlon: OK. Don't rush your lunch (bad for the digestion). Since the meeting is here, just chime in when you can.14:36
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openstackgerritKedar Vidvans proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes ZFSSANFS driver on Solaris platform
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: update min tox version to 2.0
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openstackgerritKedar Vidvans proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes ZFSSANFS driver
scottdaeharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon15:00
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scottdaWant to talk about Cinder testing?15:00
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* smcginnis is kind of here but kind of not.15:00
e0nescottda: do we have any agenda today?15:01
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scottdae0ne: I just added that we could talk about what we want to talk about at the mid-cycle.15:02
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scottdaI can't remember what I called the meeting for IRC logging...cindertesting ?15:02
e0neI'll miss midcycle :(15:03
e0ne#startmeeting cinder-testing15:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 13 15:03:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder_testing'15:03
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e0ne#chair scottda15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: e0ne scottda15:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder-specs: Migrate volume between backends in an async way
scottdae0ne: thanks15:04
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e0nescottda: np15:04
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scottdaSo, I'm trying to help get this through:
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scottdaIt seems stuck15:05
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patrickeast:( yea merging stuff into devstack and devstack-gate is slow15:06
scottdaIf anyone knows bkapilov, I'd like to help figure out what to do to get this moving.15:06
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scottdaI've been testing geguileo 's HA patches, and I see dulek has also....just manual testing so far.15:07
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patrickeastscottda: i'll have the pure ci running A/A HA soon-ish too15:08
scottdaI think that is a bit tricky, and maybe we can share testing ideas15:08
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scottdapatrickeast: That's great.15:08
patrickeastone change blocking the way
patrickeastwell, blocking the way without a forked devstack-gate15:09
scottdaOK. Anyone who can, please review #link
patrickeastwe can test on os-brick now too with multi-node stuff, got in yesterday15:10
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patrickeastwhich kind of lead into the topic of maybe something to discuss at the mid-cycle15:10
scottda#info PatrickEast is the Man15:10
patrickeastdo we have some way for a 3rd party ci to run periodic jobs?15:10
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patrickeasti don't really want to have to run a bunch of different HA multi-node configs for each patchset15:11
patrickeastbut could easily do a nightly job for now15:11
patrickeastnot sure how to convey results to the rest of us though15:11
scottdapatrickeast: Maybe infra has insight into that. Don't they already have infrastructure for periodic jobs?15:12
patrickeastah yea, should ask15:12
patrickeasti think there are ones like that.... somewhere...15:12
scottdaI already put Testing on the mid-cycle agenda, so please add any topics to that.15:13
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scottdadulek: You around? Any news on multi-node testing patches?15:13
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scottdaBTW, multi-backend experimental job was approved, but needs dendencies...15:14
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scottda#link for an example of How to Do experimental job15:14
DuncanTIf we're going to be doing periodic jobs, we're going to need a decent dashboard to collate the results15:15
Guest61430we were talking about using periodic jobs for our CI as well. Would be good if there is a common way for everyone to do it15:15
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scottdaDuncanT: Looks like zuul has a periodic queue..I'm not sure if it all works and reports anything15:16
scottdahahah..we all know Guestxxx is jgriffith15:16
DuncanTThere was no dashboard last time I looked15:16
jgriffithscottda: it is?15:17
erlonscottda: very helpful to first timers15:17
karthikp_scottda: I believe we are having disagreements with infra CI team on whether to having c-vol running on primary15:17
scottdajgriffith: oh, sorry, thought it might be :)15:17
jgriffithscottda: well ya never know, but I haven't had the split personality from multiple logins in a while.  ZNC has been working well :)15:18
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scottdakarthikp_: Yeah, that seems to be a big cause of slowness for these to reconcile the disagreements more efficiently15:20
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scottdaOK, well, we don't need to spend too much time here. Please populate the Test topic for the mid-cycle with things to discuss next week.15:22
scottdaAnyone have anything specific to bring up now?15:22
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patrickeastoh wait15:23
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patrickeaststill trying to get merged15:23
erlonscottda: hey, just to updated about the create_from tests on tempest15:23
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patrickeastmake sure to review if anyone from cinder is opposed (or likes) the change to image-cache by default15:24
erlonscottda: there where indeed some backends failing this15:24
karthikp_scottda: the only way I know is asking them to review our change spamming their channel :)15:24
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openstackgerritNitin Madhok proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes consistency snapshot creation
erlonscottda: I need someone (jgriffith ) to have a look on this fix:
erlonjgriffith: :)15:25
karthikp_scottda: Let me see what Ian and Clark(from CI team) have to say again!15:25
scottdakarthikp_: That'd be great, thanks.15:26
erlonjgriffith: not sure if was what you suggested15:26
jgriffitherlon: let me have a look...15:26
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jgriffitherlon: yep, I like having it in the driver like that rather than the manager15:27
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scottdapatrickeast: Will you please make sure your patches are on the Review section of
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patrickeastscottda: will do15:28
erlonjgriffith: good, thanks15:28
jgriffitherlon: thank you!15:28
jgriffitherlon: if you push up a rebase I'm almost done reviewing and I'll +2 it15:28
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erlonjgriffith: ok, Ill updated it, I think we should wait a few more CIs to run this to make sure at least the CIs workign pass15:29
erlonjgriffith: Ill let you know when I finish the CI list15:30
jgriffitherlon: for sure... but the catch is a few of the CI's (mine included) won't run til Gate gives a +115:30
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erlonjgriffith: yep, I had several spins of this patch, only this last day is in conflict15:31
erlonjgriffith: the other patches where +115:31
jgriffitherlon: yeah, silly merge conflicts. :)15:31
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scottdaI'm figuring we'll use ceph for 2-node HA testing. Anyone who has good scripts/local.conf for that, please let me know15:33
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Cascade + force volume delete parameters
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scottdaOr let me know if you've better ideas than ceph15:34
patrickeastseems like ceph would be the easiest15:35
erlonscottda: wouldn't that work with NFS?15:35
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scottdaerlon: Yeah, NFS would work as well. But we've lots of ceph testing already, and it seems more supported15:36
eharneyNFS likely won't give good coverage, Ceph would probably be a better option for HA testing15:36
erlonscottda: hmm15:36
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/os-brick: Local attach feature in RBD connector
jgriffithscottda: why ceph?  Just curious15:37
jgriffithscottda: sorry I'm not fully up to speed15:37
jgriffithscottda: any reason you wouldn't use LVM?15:37
patrickeastjgriffith: iirc we need something that can be remotely managed, single storage backend, from two nodes15:37
scottdajgriffith: Well, we start with just the need for shared storage for Active-active c-vol15:37
patrickeastthat we can run in gate15:37
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda sure... but shouldn't we be starting with making the ref work?15:38
scottdajgriffith: I actually have "faked" AA with 2 nodes running LVM, but they don't actually sync aything15:38
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda so you can do that by running the tgt code on a seperate node15:38
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda ie... break out the LVM driver so that JUST the LVM driver runs on a node, and has a rest interface for c-vol to talk to it15:39
patrickeastjgriffith: yea, we can definitely make it work15:39
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda I guess nobody's really interested in putting forth that kind of effort though :(15:39
scottdajgriffith: So, yeah, we can make the ref work with 2-node LVM in the gate, and just give the illusion that they are shared. That actually might be a better first step.15:39
patrickeastbut "best" and "easiest" are not in sync on this :(15:39
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patrickeastjgriffith: my concern is we would spend more time initially debugging our remote-lvm backend and not the HA problems15:40
scottdajgriffith: I'm willing to put the effort in, just need to figure out a good path ("best" and/or "easiest")15:40
patrickeastjgriffith: long term, its probably best to get iscsi multinode ha goodness in gate15:40
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda yeah15:40
jgriffithpatrickeast: scottda maybe I can work something up for mid-cycle15:40
jgriffithotherwise no reason to slow your progress15:40
jgriffithI just think we're one step closer to the death of LVM at this point15:41
scottdajgriffith: OK, I'll keep playing around as well, and we can sync up next week on this.15:41
eharneyjgriffith: i looked long ago at writing a driver for targetd.  That's a service which already exists as the "separate LVM+iSCSI service" piece that you can remotely manage15:41
patrickeastfriday hackathon project!15:41
eharneyjgriffith: just FYI if you start looking into that area15:41
jgriffitheharney: perfect15:42
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jgriffitheharney: if I get to it this week and you have time I'll run some ideas by you15:42
eharneyjgriffith: sure15:43
jgriffitheharney: I'm assuming you'll be in town next week?15:43
eharneyjgriffith: yes15:43
jgriffitheharney: great15:43
scottdaI'll put something on the agenda to figure this out15:43
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scottdaAnything else? or take a break before Cinder meeting?15:45
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dulekscottda: Ups, missed the meeting.15:47
dulekscottda: Multinode patches are in review. Currently these are focused on Grenade, but it is easy to add anything you need to devstack-gate.15:47
dulekI can help with that.15:47
dulekSo - status is "stuck on reviews for 2 weeks".15:48
scottdadulek: Cool, thanks. Yeah, that seems common15:48
scottdaI had sent out a request on the |ML for help with our testing efforts, but no response.15:48
scottdaMaybe I'll ping some of my company's people to see if I can conscript a volunteer15:49
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scottdaalright, let's take a break and talk about more test stuff at the mid-cycle. Thanks everyone.15:50
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jul 13 15:50:31 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)15:50
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xinlidulek: thank you for your message that "status is is stuck on review for two weeks", I understand that you are very busy.15:50
dulekxinli: Deadline for new drivers submissions and specs just passed yesterday, so hopefully some more review bandwidth will be available.15:51
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xinlidulek: thanks a lot, :)15:52
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e0nejgriffith, eharney: fyi, I could help you with targetd if needed15:55
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scottdahmmm...If we had just the LVM driver running on one node, and wanted 2 c-vols for AA-HA, would we need 3 nodes total? Or could we make it work with 215:59
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dulekscottda: Can16:00
patrickeastscottda: it works with two, you just run all the c-* stuff on each node16:00
dulekscottda: Can't we use multiple gates with just 2 nodes?16:00
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dulekscottda: Like on testing AA, and one testing multinode LVMs?16:00
openstackgerritRebecca Finn proposed openstack/cinder: Add unit tests for
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scottdadulek: Yes, that sounds good.16:01
scottdadulek: Yeah, seems like it should work.16:01
dulekscottda: Otherwise I don't think current devstack-gate can deploy 3 nodes (I may be very wrong ;)).16:02
scottdadulek: No, I don't think you're wrong.1I think we need to make it work with 2 nodes.16:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder-specs: resource retrieving: support change-since filter
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Splitting Out Connectors from
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Improve api_version decorator to avoid noqa
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Handle API NotFound exceptions at WSGI level
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OSNEXUSAnyone around that can help me debug my 3rd party CI setup?16:52
OSNEXUSHaving some issues with nodepool16:52
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OSNEXUSpatrickeast, any chance you're on and in a helpful mood?16:55
patrickeastOSNEXUS: sure, whats up?16:55
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OSNEXUSsweet, trying to get nodepool to play nice in my CI setup16:56
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OSNEXUSIt keeps failing to create jenkins nodes, then trying to start again16:57
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patrickeasthmm thats a super helpful error message shade and nodepool have given us17:01
patrickeastprobably going to have to go look at the source files in that stack trace to see what it was actually trying to do17:02
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patrickeastthen check your openstack logs to see what the error was, presumably some API call failed, or something went into an error state17:02
OSNEXUShmmm, alright, I'll go file hunting17:03
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patrickeastOSNEXUS: was that from the nodepool debug log?17:04
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patrickeastOSNEXUS: i feel like usually there is more info about what actions it was up to17:04
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Update Job Distribution for A/A Specs
OSNEXUSYa, that was the nodepool log17:05
patrickeastyea but nodepool.log or debug.log?17:05
OSNEXUSwhere would the entirety of openstack logs be?17:05
OSNEXUSI can grab the debug17:05
patrickeastah yea, check in /var/log/nodepool/debug.log17:06
patrickeastmight be more clues17:06
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patrickeastand uh, the openstack logs depend on how you deployed openstack for your underlying ci infrastructure17:06
patrickeastfor the cloud your nodepool is configured to use17:06
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OSNEXUSLooks like it walks through the allocation a bit more17:07
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OSNEXUSnodepool is supposed to be pointed at my devstack setup right?17:08
patrickeastsome sort of openstack cloud, yea17:08
asselin__OSNEXUS, make sure you can manually launch an instance via web UI and via openstack command line to help debug.17:08
asselin__debug outside fo nodepool.17:09
patrickeastasselin__: +117:09
OSNEXUSasselin__ : how can I stop things from trying to spin up? As nodepool seems to keep on retriggering and I can't stop it to get in there manually17:10
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asselin__OSNEXUS, you can sudo service nodepool stop17:11
OSNEXUSoh, duh17:11
asselin__but otherwise you should be able to test with nodepool running, although if you need to look at e.g. nova log files it would be easier w/o it running17:11
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prometheanfireanyone know if fransurbo hangs out here, asking because I'd like to help him with
prometheanfirehopefully convert it to a native zfs driver17:14
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openstackgerritRebecca Finn proposed openstack/cinder: Add unit tests for
jungleboyjeharney: Ping.17:29
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eharneyjungleboyj: hey17:31
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jungleboyjThoughts on this patch: You ok with Dulko's idea?17:33
eharneyjungleboyj: i need to review that one17:33
eharneyjungleboyj: haven't seen it17:33
jungleboyjOk, pretty simple.  Wanted your input before pushing up another patch.17:34
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jungleboyjeharney: Are you going to be at the meetup?17:38
eharneyjungleboyj: yep17:39
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jungleboyjOk.  Great.  Want to talk to you about some other NFS questions as well.17:39
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pecehi, in multidomain setup is there some protection in cinder api from passing all_tenants=True flag (as admin of a single domain) and e.g. getting a list of all volumes from all domains?17:43
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patrickeastpece: i don't believe there is anything for that17:45
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smcginnisprometheanfire: He was in here earlier looking for help with that.17:50
prometheanfiresmcginnis: cool17:51
prometheanfiresmcginnis: do you know if he wanted to make it a native driver instead of an iscsi driver?17:51
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smcginnisprometheanfire: He didn't really say too much. Mostly just asked if anyone was interested in getting it updated to work with the current code.17:52
hemnajungleboyj, if someone provided an incorrect path the existing driver code should raise  re line 120  (if not os.path.exists(config))17:54
jungleboyjhemna: Right, but the user shouldn't have to provide a file.17:56
hemnadoes the driver work w/o a config file ?17:57
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor sqlalchemy service methods
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Add workers table
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add cluster job distribution
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: {WIP] Add worker's DB operations
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Improve cinder-manage arg parsing
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Update Versioned Objects with Cluster object
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Add cleanable base object and cleanup request VO
jungleboyjhemna: Yes.  If you have san_host and san_share_path set it doesn't use the nfs_shares file.17:58
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor create, save, and destroy OVO methods
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Make c-vol use workers table for cleanup
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [WIP] Suport A/A in attach/detach operations
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add cluster table and related methods
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Modify API to include cluster related operations
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Update manage with cluster related commands
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Fix CinderPersistentObject.refresh
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Prevent doc generation failure on OVO decorators
jungleboyjThough, if you don't have at least an empty file sitting in the default path it blows up which is silly.17:58
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patrickeasthemna: you ever seen an error like this?
patrickeasthemna: is that privsep refusing the connection?17:59
patrickeastor multipathd mebbe...18:00
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hemnathat looks like a privsep vomit18:01
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hemnamultipathd is not running: exit code 118:02
hemnathat's a 'normal' thing18:02
hemnaif multipathd isn't there and running18:02
hemnaprivsep logs frigging everything18:03
hemnawhen it shouldn't18:03
patrickeastwell thats troubling on several accounts...18:03
hemnait's the same shit as systool -c fc_host -v18:03
patrickeastyea, but multipathd *was* running18:03
hemnawhen you don't have an FC driver installed in the kernel18:03
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hemnathere are other strange failures above that18:04
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hemnafailing to parse out the multipath -ll output18:04
hemnawhich looks completely bogus18:04
hemna(probably because multipathd died)18:05
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patrickeastheh yea, looking into why that advanced ops and shelve test are flakey18:05
patrickeastthose two are pretty consistently flakey (if that makes sense) on my all-in-one multipath test18:05
patrickeastfor whatever reason on multi-node they are much more solid18:05
patrickeastohhh you know what18:06
patrickeasti might have backed out my change to set nova and cinder to have the same lock dir for os-brick18:06
* patrickeast checks18:06
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hemnasomething bad happened18:07
hemnathat /dev/mapper path became broken18:07
hemnathat is the multipath device18:07
hemnadevice-mapper: multipath: Failing path 8:48.18:08
hemnalots of failures in there too18:09
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Remove race condition from lvextend
patrickeastyea so i think the problem is that nova is configured with lock path /opt/stack/data/nova and cinder has /opt/stack/data/cinder18:12
patrickeasti fixed that at one point in time18:12
patrickeastcinder disconnected the disk underneath nova18:12
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patrickeastor so it seems18:12
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openstackgerritErlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Fix 'driver does not honor clone/snapshot' bugs
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erlonxyang1: ping18:35
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openstackgerritKedar Vidvans proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes ZFSSANFS driver
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openstackgerritMatan Sabag proposed openstack/os-brick: ScaleIO to get volume name from connection properties
hemnaooh yah nice18:44
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xyang1erlon: hi, I am in a meeting, will ping you later18:46
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openstackgerritRebecca Finn proposed openstack/cinder: Add unit tests for
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Cascade + force volume delete parameters
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR use OSLO versioned Object for volume
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Trivial: Use fake.VOLUME_ID instead of id
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openstackgerritKedar Vidvans proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes ZFSSANFS driver
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xyang1erlon: hi, still there?19:35
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karthikp_patrickeast: hi19:53
erlonxyang1: hi yes19:54
erlonxyang1: Im trying to understand this comparation:
erlonxyang1: '<is> True'19:55
erlonxyang1: shouldn't  this be only True?19:55
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add class 2 driver support
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xyang1erlon: that is used by filter scheduler19:56
xyang1erlon let me find a doc for you19:56
erlonxyang1: the filter scheduler adds that?19:56
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xyang1smcginnis: class 2 driver support?:)19:56
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smcginnisDuncanT, eharney, jgriffith, jungleboyj, xyang1, scottda, dulek, geguileo, etc. - Interestested in your thoughts on that:
smcginnisxyang1: I'm not tied to the name. :)19:57
erlonxyang1: so, if I get the same in the manager I wouldn'd have to use that?19:57
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: You work fast.19:58
xyang1erlon: hold on. let me find the doc for you first.  also my spec is different from that code patch now19:58
smcginnisjungleboyj: I can write up something quick. It's the implementation that takes me longer. ;)19:58
erlonxyang1: ok19:58
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xyang1erlon: this is for nova, but we have similar things20:00
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xyang1erlon: you'll find <is> True in there20:00
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erlonxyang1: mhm, I knew about those syntax for driver filters. Didn't know that Cinder converted the info on volume_type extra_specs to that format20:01
xyang1erlon: I am going to check {'provisioning_type': 'thick'} now20:02
jgriffithsmcginnis: sorta like tags for drivers... not a bad compromise at first glance IMO20:02
erlonxyang1: mhm, do you know if that is the same if I get the information from the volume, in volume/manager?20:02
xyang1erlon: yes, if it is in volume type, it will be the same20:03
erlonxyang1: hmm20:03
karthikp_Hi , got a question20:03
karthikp_^ guys20:04
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karthikp_Can I call a method in db api directly from the cinder api?20:04
_alastor_smcginnis: Could we call them  "second-class drivers" :P20:05
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xyang1smcginnis: so sometime ago people who maintain driverlogs pinged me to update it for our CI's.  they told me I can add a CI for out of tree driver there.  that will actually show up in market place.  I don't know if this is still allowed.20:10
xyang1jgriffith: what is tier1 tier2 in nova20:11
smcginnis_alastor_: I didn't want to make it too derogatory. ;)20:12
smcginnisxyang1: Yeah, I kind of remember the same.20:12
smcginnisNot sure how much the marketplace is used, but that has usually been my answer to look in to that.20:13
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jgriffithxyang1: hypervisors20:14
_alastor_smcginnis: Sooo, no "Stallman's tears" driver category?20:14
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smcginnis_alastor_: Hah!20:14
jgriffithxyang1: they may have moved away from that though20:14
xyang1jgriffith: so kvm is tier1 and others are tier2?20:15
jgriffithxyang1: yeah... go figure :)20:15
xyang1jgriffith: :)20:15
jgriffithxyang1: smcginnis oh... my bad, they're using "Group A, B, C"20:15
xyang1jgriffith: oh, interesting.  I have not looked at that page for a while:)20:17
DuncanTsmcginnis: We should call them what they are: unsupported drivers20:18
DuncanTsmcginnis: At least that makes it clear that there's no point coming complaining to us about them20:18
smcginnisAt a minimum I would want that type of message in the command line output.20:19
patrickeastDuncanT: i'm a little bit torn on that kind of naming/messaging for it... they should be just called what they are: out of tree (3rd party, or whatever)20:22
patrickeastthe opensource project isn't technically supporting any of the drivers20:22
patrickeastthe vendors support their own20:22
patrickeastand the distros support ones they certify20:22
patrickeasteveryones go their own cert program for cinder drivers....20:22
patrickeastits up to the RDO, MOS, and HOS guys to decide if its supported or not20:23
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jgriffithsmcginnis: yeah, I think just a tag saying "non-community supported" is fine20:26
smcginnisThat works for me. It's accurate.20:27
hemnaclass 2 driver support ?20:28
hemnaclass 2 ?20:28
smcginnishemna: Class 20? :)20:28
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erlonxyang1: what's different in the spec from that patch? I couldn't get the difference20:29
hemnaah ok20:30
OSNEXUSHad to duck out for a bit, but built my nodepool node manually and it's working fine20:30
hemnacan't we make a generic shim driver and put it into tree20:30
hemnaand the config for that shim is the class name of the library that the shim calls20:30
scottdahemna: ++ That's what I was thinking20:30
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smcginnishemna: Oh, that's an interesting idea.20:30
scottdaWhy have 50 different shim drivers?20:30
smcginnisRather than having a bunch of shims, one official.20:30
hemnathis would just be 1 'official' shim driver20:30
hemnamakes me shiver, but still20:31
jgriffithhemna: I like that20:31
hemnasmcginnis, yah20:31
jgriffithhemna: but isn't that what is supposed to do :)20:31
hemnais it ?20:31
xyang1erlon: the spec says check if extra spec identifies the vol as thick20:31
jgriffithhemna: well... maybe it should be :)20:31
smcginnisDoesn't address all the vendors that want to have their name listed though.20:32
xyang1erlon: the code is checking for thin20:32
smcginnisReally no reason they can't skip the whole shim shenanigans and just have a driver out of tree.20:32
smcginnisBut they want to be listed as a Cinder driver.20:32
xyang1erlon: the spec is more simple than the code20:32
erlonxyang1: hmm, and assuming 'if is not thin is thick'20:33
scottdaOne advantage of a generic shim driver is there is less confusion about what is actively reviewed and maintained by upstream people. Vendors can point to their 3rd party CI reporting to prove they are supported.20:33
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xyang1erlon: it is less code change to check thick20:33
hemnascottda, and if a vendor wanted to, then can put the library into pypi20:33
erlonxyang1: mhm, got it20:34
hemnaand just say, use the shim driver20:34
smcginnisscottda: They could just point to CI now without even using a shim though.20:34
xyang1erlon: you can look at a previous patch set of the same spec20:34
xyang1erlon: not differ by too many lines20:34
scottdaYeah, and they wouldn't get to claim "We are a Cinder driver". But isn't that the controversy?20:34
smcginnisscottda: Yeah, that's what it ultimately comes down to.20:34
erlonxyang1: ok, Ill, ill try to cover the same cases in the same way in the extend_volume() fix20:35
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xyang1erlon: ok20:35
smcginnisWe don't want to contribut to Cinder but we want you to promote us. Basically20:35
hemnaI think the controversy is a few items.  1) we can't review their driver code to find out it sucks 2) licensing?  and 3) getting CI reporting20:35
hemnathere is nothing preventing someone from shipping a proprietary cinder driver and configuring cinder.conf to point to it.20:36
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hemnaoutside of tree20:36
smcginnishemna: Exactly. That's why it comes down to as scottda said. They want to show up as an official Cinder driver.20:37
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_alastor_smcginnis: I think then they need to play by the rules.  The rest of us do :)20:37
smcginnisWithout really contributing a driver.20:37
hemnaso, I think it comes down to what is 'Cinder'20:38
smcginnis_alastor_: I really do agree with that. I'm just looking for a compromise so we don't keep getting back in this situation.20:38
hemnaCinder isn't just the API, scheduler and volume manager20:38
scottdaWell, it's definately more PITA for me. Currently when asked "Does Helion support xxxx?" We just say, sure, we ship all the drivers in upstream Cinder. So we can be confident they work, and we can even look at issues. If there's no such ability, it'd at least be nice to say, no, we don't support any of those 2nd class drivers. You are on your own.20:38
hemnait's also the driver20:38
hemnabut I'd love to see drivers out of tree20:39
hemnaand put into pip20:39
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smcginnishemna: Doesn't that just add all the negative things we're trying to avoid though?20:39
_alastor_thingee: You around?  Want to weigh in on this?20:40
smcginnisIf we want to make core changes we can't easily see if it breaks anyone.20:40
smcginnisWe have to go out and find those and see.20:40
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hemnaI dunno man20:42
_alastor_hemna: if the driver is out of tree, but we support it wouldn't it need to be listed under governance?
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smcginnisIf we support it, probably.20:42
hemnamy love of pip is purely out of the ability to fix bugs from Icehouse and not have a forked cinder in github20:42
hemnathere is no way to do that upstream20:43
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hemnawhich completely sucks20:43
hemnaand I mean driver bugs20:43
smcginnisInteresting read:
scottdaWhat was the resolution to the recent ML thread about the line b/w opensource and proprietary? Cinder was held up as a good example of how 3rd party code can coexist with OpenStack...20:44
hemnaso if there was a way to fix the ability to update driver bugs for older releases in tree, then I'd be happy20:45
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smcginnishemna: I agree, that part would be good.20:45
hemnaI just think it's a major oversight in our project at this point.20:45
hemnaEveryone seem to always be worried about master20:45
hemnaand maybe a release ago20:46
hemnabut my customers don't run master, nor do they run the last release.20:46
smcginnisThat's what Helion and Red Hat get paid by there customers for, right? :)20:46
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openstackgerritJon Bernard proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: postpone snapshot removal until final volume deleted
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hemnapeople buy Helion?20:49
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OSNEXUSpatrickeast: You still around? I got pulled away, but I ran a manual nodepool image build which was successful20:50
scottdaNo, they  buy 3par. We throw in Helion for free.20:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Violin Memory iSCSI storage for 7000 series AFA
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Enable deletion of inactive logical volumes
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Enable deletion of inactive logical volumes
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hemnasmcginnis, so the HP XP CI hasn't been reporting in 2 weeks it seems....FYI21:36
hemnaand I have a patch against the XP driver.21:36
smcginnishemna: OK, I can try contacting them. Unless you have?21:37
hemnaI haven't yet21:37
smcginnishemna: OK, I'll send something out now.21:37
smcginnisThanks for pointing it out.21:37
smcginnisfernnest_: ping21:38
hemnaI don't see any updates on the wiki page about why it's down either.21:38
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smcginnishemna: Took me a little to find that one. Really should have had "HP" in the name.21:39
hemnayah it should21:39
hemnathat's what I looked for first as well21:39
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hemnaIt would be nice if the main page segmented into projects21:40
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hemnaneutron, cinder, etc21:40
smcginnisThat really would be helpful.21:41
smcginnisThere might be one or two that test against multiple, but I doubt many.21:41
OSNEXUSAnyone feeling to help me in setting up my 3rd party CI? Having issues with nodepool21:41
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smcginnishemna: Message sent.21:42
hemnaok thanks man21:42
hemnaI have a stack of patches I'd like to purge :P21:42
smcginnisThanks for pointing it out. I need to take a look at _alastor_ script yet to help with monitoring these.21:42
hemnayah it would be nice to know that we have X drivers, Y CI systems and Z reporting in the last 24 hours.21:43
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hemnaand we should have X = Y = Z21:43
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smcginnishemna: Well, some CIs like HP and Dell test multiple drivers in one, but we should be able to sort that out.21:44
hemnayah, that shouldn't be hard to sort21:44
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smcginnishemna: Doh!    Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender21:44
_alastor_the "-a" flag allows you to pass in the actual driver runner name: eg datera-dsvm-full21:44
smcginnis_alastor_: Sweet21:45
hemnathat one ?21:45
smcginnishemna: Yep21:45
_alastor_which is usually how those are differentiated21:45
_alastor_Only works for single result queries though :)21:45
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smcginnisWow, 98 volume drivers as of right now in master.21:50
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hemna_alastor_, tool url ?21:51
scottdahmmm..Neutron doesn't even enforce 3rd party CI.21:51
smcginnisscottda: I'm amazed that works.21:52
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hemnaand yet, they have out of tree drivers21:52
hemnaand we soooo fret about it.21:52
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smcginnis98 volume drivers, 7 backup drivers, and 2 fczm drivers.21:52
hemnaFile "./", line 112, in <module>21:53
hemna    import arrow21:53
hemnaImportError: No module named arrow21:53
hemnagah I have to read.....reading is hard.....21:53
_alastor_hemna: :)21:53
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thingee_alastor_: hey just woke up, in china atm22:11
thingeehemna: wait what, you're for out of tree drivers now? i remember this conversation being slightly different in fort collins when I was the only one defending it.22:12
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hemnaI was kinda for it then22:13
hemnaarguing for drivers in pip then a bit.22:13
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thingeewell I remmeber people being upset with drivers all of sudden not being "official" anymore because they're out of tree. Though I felt like my solution still helped.22:16
_alastor_thingee: there was quite a brouhaha earlier regarding out of tree drivers.  I remember we talked a bit out Cinder's solution vs Neutron's solution22:16
hemnathingee, yah some folks were, and still are22:16
thingeeI think the best argument I heard when I proposed it at the midcycle was "YOU'RE KILLING CINDER"22:16
thingeelol, drama queens22:16
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thingeetldr, have drivers/repos being registered somewhere in tree + in the openstack driver market place. If they're in tree, they can be installed via cli and listed as well.22:18
smcginnisthingee: in tree would remain as is. No extra install. Out of tree would have some way to be listed so the vendors that are constantly wanting to be in Cinder without being in Cinder could have something so they stop asking for it.22:20
thingeeI know people are worried about contributors disappearing from cinder. I really think that arugment is weak, because people already just stay within their driver file which is in tree and never contribute to anything else22:20
openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Differentiate thick and thin provisioning
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thingeeyou need to add hooks to cinder for your driver for features and what not. that's still going to happen22:20
hemnathingee, +122:21
smcginnisMy bigger concern with the whole out of tree driver idea was losing visibility into those drivers and being slowed down from making core Cinder changes so we don't break anyone that may or may not be using something.22:21
thingeeyou need to fix bugs in cinder, because your customers are using it. that's still going to happen22:21
smcginnisthingee: That I agree.22:22
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thingeesmcginnis: I think third party ci just has to get better tool for us to see that. If our only way to know if your driver works is via third party ci, that should encourage you to make things more stable.22:23
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thingeeif we have time at the midcycle we can talk about it. or lunch/dinner whatever.22:24
thingeenot during dancing tho22:24
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_alastor_weird, all of thingee's comments are showing up as ******** .  Must be that weird firewall thing china has going on :P22:26
thingeeOmg, can't stand the internet here.22:26
thingeeor cell service22:27
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DuncanTJust for the record, I think 'Neutron have out of tree drivers' is the best possible argument for *not* doing it. Has anybody /ever/ had a possitive experience with neutron?22:31
smcginnisthingee: Can't be much worse than the access I had in India.22:31
smcginnisDuncanT: Well, not related to drivers, TBF. :)22:31
DuncanTsmcginnis: Google is blocked. It was like having half my brain removed22:31
smcginnisOnly half?22:31
DuncanTsmcginnis: I think it's related to drivers, and approach. Out of tree drivers has follow-on consequences and I really can't see a backout plan for it22:32
thingeeDuncanT: the difference between us and them there is we have investment in our drivers. They have already made it pretty clear on the list they'd rather focus on core/interface stuff. There is nothing today validating drivers like we do22:32
smcginnisSo at least if we stick with third party CI requirements - that's at least a step ahead of that.22:33
DuncanTthingee: Our third party CI is totally broken. It is so unreliable as to be useless. We routinely break stuff because so many 3rd party cis report red on everything that nobody looks22:34
DuncanTThat's before you look at the code coverage of tempest, which is < 60% excluding drivers22:34
hemnaDuncanT, that's the way it's been since day one.22:34
_alastor_smcginnis: Automating the process of notifying third-parties of non-compliance would help keep the standard.22:34
hemna_alastor_, that would be nice.22:34
DuncanT_alastor_: We need to fix things like that *before* we consider out-of-treeing drivers22:35
hemna'we noticed your CI system has been failing for 7 days have 14 days to get it working, or we will remove your driver."22:35
thingee_alastor_: I have ideas on that are not actually automating, but out sourcing policing third party cis to another group22:35
hemna"thanks, have a nice day."22:35
_alastor_thingee: mechanical turk?22:35
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thingeenope, defcore.22:36
thingeewe already have tools like tintri's dashboard for monitoring third party cis22:36
DuncanTThe argument over fixing bugs in older releases is actually an argument for increasing the lifetime of the stable brach - there are as many core bugs as driver bugs22:36
hemna  <--- Our CI monitor.......22:36
_alastor_tintri's CI went down for two weeks and nobody knew what to do about it...22:36
_alastor_tintri's CI dashboard*22:37
DuncanTI really thing there should be a high level discussion of that, rather than trying to hack around it at the projecet level22:37
DuncanTtintri's dashboard also doesn't show totally dead cis22:37
thingee_alastor_: Yeah, first off I think it's weird that it's hosted by tintri. this is something the openstack infra team should be hosting22:37
DuncanTI think _alastor_'s wiki scrape will make that better?22:37
thingeeDuncanT: yeah again, I think it should be community based some we can make changes we need22:37
thingeeanyhoo, seriously disappearing now. need to get ready for today22:38
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patrickeast^ thats my life22:43
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hemnapretty much sums it up.22:44
patrickeast_alastor_: btw my less cool dashboard only goes down for like 1-2 days at a time, tops
patrickeastalso, wtf happened this afternoon with all those failures22:45
_alastor_patrickeast: awesome22:46
hemnawe had 1 success!22:46
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patrickeasthaha, nailed it!22:46
_alastor_patrickeast: I don't see mine on there though :/22:47
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hemnawe beat scaleio by volume22:47
patrickeastare you on the gerrit group for ci systems?22:47
hemnait's a close race to the bottom22:47
_alastor_patrickeast: I suppose not...22:47
patrickeastthis one,members22:48
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patrickeastmm looks like it might be there22:48
DuncanTpatrickeast: in the last 20 days, I can't see a single all-green stripe or even close... I think that says everything you need to know about the theory that our third party CI being something we should rely on for code quality22:48
patrickeastDuncanT: yea its pretty bad : /22:49
patrickeastDuncanT: in theory they wont always be green, patches do break things22:49
patrickeastbut it should be wayyyy better22:49
hemnaDuncanT, +122:49
hemnaeverything gets kicked off again at gate time ?22:50
hemnaor just check ?22:50
DuncanTpatrickeast: there's no way of telling if a patch broke something... the CI results are essentially random. For a single patch you can hit retry until it passes, but it's like playing slot machines22:50
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patrickeasthemna: those results are per patchset22:50
patrickeasthemna: so you would see any broken patches as red's22:50
hemnait would be nice to see what the runs look like after it passes the gate22:51
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hemnaeverything should be green22:51
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patrickeastyea... at some point i had grand plans to have the whole changeset viewable and show like final OK-ness of it for some system22:51
hemnaif a CI fails after gate passes, then it's most likely a borked CI22:51
hemnabut the driver in that ci could be crap too22:51
hemnawe need some sort of baseline22:52
hemnathat's reliable22:52
DuncanThemna: look for anything with green in the first column (which is most of them)22:52
hemnathat test looks like crap 100% of the time22:52
DuncanTLog scraping to find what the failure was would be great, but it's a truely epic task the way CI is at the moment22:52
hemnalog scraping for this is a nightmare22:53
DuncanTIf we could tell the difference between CI can't even start / nova or neutron is borked / cinder unit test failed, then we'd know more22:53
jgriffithhemna: just to interject.. that's kinda untrue.  There are intermittent failures22:53
hemnawould be nice to have a db that tracked tempest tests against patchsets and success/fail rates on them.22:54
jgriffithhemna: for example I still hit the iscsi db issue from brick at least a few times a day.  Recheck almost always works22:54
DuncanTThat fact that running a reliable CI is so hard says an awful lot about the state of openstack as a whole22:54
jgriffithDuncanT: +122:54
hemnawell, I'd maybe say infra22:54
jgriffithDuncanT: it's not very satisfying22:54
jgriffithDuncanT: and sort of a disappointment22:55
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hemnawe can build the shit out of docs though!  (gate-cinder-docs)22:55
jgriffithDuncanT: want some real fun... try plugging in some of the satellite projects22:55
DuncanTjgriffith: Indeed22:56
OSNEXUSSpeaking of failing 3rd party CI...anyone got time to help me figure out why no work?22:57
DuncanTOSNEXUS: Post a link to an example log set....22:57
patrickeaststill having issues with nodepool?22:57
hemnathen we get failures like......
OSNEXUSpatrickeast : ya, manually built and uploaded fine22:58
OSNEXUSbut auto is still just failing and restarting22:58
hemnaat least it only takes 12s to fail22:58
hemnaour CI takes 2hours 11minutes to fail.22:58
patrickeastOSNEXUS: manually built a nodepool image? instance?22:58
OSNEXUSimage, couldn't find anything about manually building instances22:59
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patrickeastwas it a dib image?23:00
patrickeastalso, could you upload it?23:00
OSNEXUSthe image itself?23:00
patrickeasti'd bet there are problems with nodepool -> cloud actions23:00
patrickeastyea, did you do "nodepool image-build"?23:00
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patrickeastok cool, that should have made a new dib image23:01
patrickeastseen with "nodepool dib-image-list"23:01
patrickeastthen a "nodepool image-upload <name>" of it should upload it to your cloud23:01
patrickeastand it will show up for the provider in "nodepool image-list"23:01
OSNEXUSFailed to upload23:02
OSNEXUSlemee grab logs23:02
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OSNEXUShuh, those should be in debug.log right?23:05
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patrickeastuhh maybe23:05
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patrickeastwhen doing the image-upload it might not log, might just be stdout stderr23:05
OSNEXUSya, not seeing any logging, just telling me in stdout that if failed to upload23:06
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patrickeasthmm that sucks23:06
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patrickeastfollowing up from the error earlier23:07
patrickeastits probably the same issue23:07
patrickeastdid you have a chance to look at the source and see what those calls were trying to do?23:08
OSNEXUS a little, was taken away quickly though, I'll dig back in23:09
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OSNEXUSFound this comment at the point things are failing, might shed some more light23:17
patrickeasthmm that might be related23:19
patrickeastone thing to check is if your clouds.yaml was configured correctly23:20
OSNEXUSSeems we don't wait by default then immediately grab the server, which is already at error state23:20
OSNEXUSThen I guess waiting wouldn't matter much if it's already in errro23:20
patrickeastyea exactly23:20
patrickeastso, try switching to the nodepool user23:20
patrickeastand make sure you have a clouds.yaml squirreled away in like ~/.config/clouds or something23:21
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OSNEXUSya it's there23:21
patrickeastiirc the puppet scripts create it23:21
patrickeastok cool23:21
patrickeastso i think if you use the name of the cloud you can do something like "openstack --cloud <name> server list"23:22
OSNEXUSThose are the correct creds for the devstack box I'm using23:22
patrickeastor maybe --os-cloud23:22
patrickeasti forget23:22
OSNEXUSit's --os-cloud, though it's asking me to set a scope as well,23:25
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patrickeastoh i wonder if you need to specify a project name in your cloud.yaml23:28
patrickeastusually openstack commands need a user, password, project/tenant, and auth url23:28
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patrickeastyour paste only has the 323:28
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OSNEXUSright, so I just through project_name: cinder in there?23:29
patrickeastyea if cinder is the keystone project on that cloud23:29
patrickeastfor that user**23:30
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Remove race condition from lvextend
OSNEXUSi believe so, let me make sure, how would I check on the devstack config??23:31
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OSNEXUShmmm, thought I had auth?23:35
OSNEXUSThe request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401) (Request-ID: req-be7b28b9-0ca4-457f-a2ef-b74012cbd33c)23:35
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/os-brick: Remove race condition from lvextend
patrickeastOSNEXUS: try with a --debug in there23:38
patrickeastshould give more clues23:38
patrickeastah ok23:41
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patrickeastso its getting a 401 when trying to get a token23:41
patrickeastwhich means more than likely one of username, password, and project are incorrect23:41
OSNEXUShmm, the user and pass are the ones used for keystone, not the box itself correct?23:43
patrickeastsame ones you use to log in to like horizon23:43
OSNEXUSthen probably my project name23:43
patrickeastunless you created one specially for the ci its either demo or admin23:44
patrickeastwith devstack23:44
OSNEXUSthe user you mean?23:44
patrickeastthe project23:44
OSNEXUSI just went with the defualts, admin and nomoresecret23:44
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patrickeastah yea, so just put admin as the project name23:44
patrickeastor to double check log in to horizon and look at what projects are set for the user23:45
OSNEXUSWell we beat auth23:45
OSNEXUSoh, maybe not23:46
OSNEXUSya, beat that, now we're just plain old unable to establish connection23:46
OSNEXUSwe get the token easy, but then fail to get into the servers/detail directory23:48
patrickeastyea different service, once it jumps over to port 8774 its talking to the nova api server23:48
patrickeastmake sure you can reach the api directly with like telnet or something23:49
patrickeastrule out any firewall issues or anything23:49
patrickeastalso make sure that its running23:49
* patrickeast may or may not have done that before23:49
OSNEXUShmmm, telnet can't get in, but I can ssh in23:51
OSNEXUShow to make sure nova is running? Just start the service?23:52
patrickeastits devstack right?23:52
patrickeastdo a screen -ls and then rejoin the stack one23:52
patrickeastand make sure n-cpu is running23:52
OSNEXUS...there is no screen to be attached...23:53
OSNEXUSI swear if this thing is not stacked...23:53
patrickeasteasy enough fix to just && && stack.sh23:54
OSNEXUSI'll be back in 30 or so, thanks for the help, how long you gonna be around today?23:54
patrickeastwell, i guess being optional23:54
patrickeasti'm off pretty soon, but if you ping me i might answer23:54
patrickeastget notifications on my phone... but sometimes ignore em23:54
OSNEXUSAight, I won't bother ya if you're out for the day, just wait till tomorrow23:55
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