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openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/cinder: NetApp cDOT: Fix model update for cheesecake volumes https://review.openstack.org/369620 | 00:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Disable connectivity failures for new servers https://review.openstack.org/369770 | 01:25 |
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openstackgerrit | huanan proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Backend capabilies report optimization https://review.openstack.org/369788 | 02:43 |
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stevemar | *knock knock* | 03:07 |
stevemar | anyone home? | 03:07 |
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openstackgerrit | huanan proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Backend capabilies report optimization https://review.openstack.org/369788 | 03:09 |
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aohuanxuan | Hello everyone | 03:12 |
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stevemar | aohuanxuan: i don't think anyone is home :) | 03:15 |
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aohuanxuan | I have a question about "snapshot manage" command, I do not quite know what does this command do? I think it is similar to "snapshot create" command, right? | 03:25 |
aohuanxuan | seems like the command also will create a new snapshot | 03:30 |
stevemar | this is all in regards to creating the same functionality in openstackclient | 03:31 |
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lixiaoy1 | aohuanxuan: import an existing snapshot from backend storage | 03:40 |
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aohuanxuan | lixiaoy1: Then the newly created snapshot by the manage command is the same as the existing snapshot? | 03:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix coerce good values in test_fields.py https://review.openstack.org/369579 | 04:23 |
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openstackgerrit | guangpei.liu proposed openstack/cinder: remove white space between print and () https://review.openstack.org/369828 | 05:35 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Replace a string constant with a constant in constants.py. https://review.openstack.org/369841 | 06:16 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Replace a string constant with a constant in constants.py. https://review.openstack.org/369841 | 06:28 |
openstackgerrit | Zhang Danyang proposed openstack/cinder: Fix the bug that c-api server error when reset the status https://review.openstack.org/369277 | 06:28 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Delete redundant variable declared . In constants.py,there have three redundant variable declared,so ,this patch is aim at delete them and make code looks more clear. https://review.openstack.org/369856 | 06:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Bhagyashri Shewale proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unreachable return statement https://review.openstack.org/369858 | 07:03 |
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ManishD | Lisali: HI, if you have some free time please can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357131 | 07:05 |
ManishD | Lisali: received comment on patch, please have a look | 07:05 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Delete redundant variable declared. https://review.openstack.org/369856 | 07:07 |
openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Delete redundant variable declared. https://review.openstack.org/369856 | 07:08 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/369861 | 07:10 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Replace a string constant with constant in constants.py. https://review.openstack.org/369841 | 07:19 |
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dulek | smcginnis, karthikp: I'll get that on today's meeting agenda. Personally I would prefer cleaning it up as last thing in Ocata. | 07:50 |
openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Replace a string constant with constant in constants.py. https://review.openstack.org/369841 | 07:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Wenjun Wang proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Make quota-class working better https://review.openstack.org/355430 | 08:18 |
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nikeshm | hi when is RC-1 | 08:48 |
nikeshm | any date finalized | 08:48 |
dulek | nikeshm: It should be tagged this week. | 08:49 |
nikeshm | dulek: thnks | 08:50 |
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openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: add url in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/366686 | 09:32 |
openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Use assertEqual() instead of assertDictEqual() https://review.openstack.org/366607 | 09:33 |
openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/os-brick: Use assertEqual() instead of assertDictEqual() https://review.openstack.org/366618 | 09:33 |
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openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder: Add combined function get_vol_type_by_name_or_id https://review.openstack.org/367174 | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Yingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei driver supports specifying copy speed https://review.openstack.org/368516 | 09:45 |
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vladani | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364837/ | 10:34 |
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vladani | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367215/ | 10:40 |
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openstackgerrit | nikesh proposed openstack/cinder: Use IP in Kaminario locks and add/delete loggers https://review.openstack.org/370028 | 10:52 |
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openstackgerrit | nikesh proposed openstack/cinder: Use IP in Kaminario locks and add/delete loggers https://review.openstack.org/370028 | 11:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/369861 | 11:45 |
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sudipto | Hi, I have configured a cinder-driver with LVMISCSIDriver - I have this running in 2 compute hosts - which are backed up by block storage devices from a SAN. Is it possible to ensure that the disks are created from a volume-service that runs on a specific compute host? I know it sort violates the cloud principles a bit. | 12:24 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: oh wow, the "manage" commands are totally cinder specific eh | 12:53 |
stevemar | smcginnis: since they are created outside of cinder | 12:53 |
stevemar | smcginnis: does any other project have that issue? | 12:53 |
dulek | stevemar: What manage commands? | 12:54 |
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smcginnis | stevemar: Not that I know of. | 12:54 |
smcginnis | dulek: Manage/unmanage volume/snapshot | 12:54 |
stevemar | dulek: the "volume manage" commands | 12:54 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: that's interesting stuff | 12:55 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: your explanation is the first one that made sense amongst all the docs and APIs :) | 12:55 |
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dulek | Ah, I think main purpose was to be able to export/import volumes between different deployments? | 12:55 |
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smcginnis | stevemar: Guess we need to work on that documentation! ;) | 12:55 |
dulek | stevemar: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/add-export-import-volumes | 12:55 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: so, would you recommend the OSC team stick to the "manage/unmanage" wording here, or "import/export"? | 12:56 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: also it's more of a "create" command, i think... | 12:59 |
smcginnis | stevemar: Hmm, good question. I've always referred to it as manage/unmanage. | 12:59 |
smcginnis | As import and export has a data movement connotation to me. | 12:59 |
smcginnis | And no data is being moved or copied. | 12:59 |
smcginnis | It's just a "create" of a database entry really. | 12:59 |
stevemar | smcginnis: i'm cool with that reasoning | 12:59 |
stevemar | smcginnis: yeah :) i understood that from your comment in the review | 13:00 |
smcginnis | stevemar: I guess as long as we are consistent, right? ;) | 13:00 |
e0ne | smcginnis: from the other hand, we've got 'backup import/export' commands :( | 13:00 |
smcginnis | e0ne: Oh, right. :/ | 13:01 |
stevemar | e0ne: are those not saving the data? | 13:01 |
dulek | stevemar: Basically those are like manage-unmanage. | 13:01 |
stevemar | dulek: -_- | 13:01 |
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dulek | Cinder: Here be dragons. ;) | 13:02 |
stevemar | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 13:02 |
smcginnis | So do a backup on one cloud, export that backup information, then import it on another cloud. | 13:02 |
smcginnis | stevemar: :) | 13:02 |
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smcginnis | It is slightly different in that some data is copied out and copied in, whereas with volume and snapshot it is just being told about something that's already in place. | 13:03 |
e0ne | smcginnis: NOTE: another cloud with the same backup storage | 13:03 |
smcginnis | So it imports metadata. | 13:03 |
smcginnis | e0ne: +1 | 13:03 |
stevemar | sorry for bugging you guys, but we don't want another properties/metadata fiasco | 13:03 |
e0ne | smcginnis: yes, it's a different than manage/unmanage | 13:03 |
stevemar | that almost started ww3 | 13:03 |
smcginnis | :) | 13:04 |
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dulek | smcginnis: Should we talk at the Design Summit about how we should name them? | 13:04 |
* dulek wonders if such sessions doesn't always go into bikeshedding mode… :( | 13:04 | |
smcginnis | dulek: Maybe too late for that? | 13:04 |
stevemar | why don't huanxuan, myself and the rest of the osc team take this back and sketch out some choices and bring it back to you guys | 13:04 |
dulek | smcginnis: I mean in OSC. | 13:04 |
smcginnis | Hah, yeah. Could be very easy to bikeshed on that one. ;) | 13:04 |
smcginnis | stevemar: That sounds good to me. | 13:05 |
dulek | stevemar: Great! | 13:05 |
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smcginnis | Maybe we just need to get out the thesaurus and come up with some other names. | 13:05 |
stevemar | dulek: i'd be open to that, hoping we can solve it sooner, but it'll still be applicable for other stuff | 13:05 |
stevemar | for the life of me, i couldn't figure out what the heck "manage" did | 13:06 |
stevemar | now i gets it | 13:06 |
stevemar | it just seemed like an update | 13:06 |
stevemar | thanks for the help smcginnis, dulek and e0ne | 13:06 |
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smcginnis | stevemar: Thanks! | 13:07 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: qq for ya | 14:00 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: when managing a volume, you specify the host and the volume ID you want to "manage"? | 14:01 |
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stevemar | smcginnis: this will create an entry in the cinder db for the volume you selected, from that host? | 14:01 |
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stevemar | oh i guess that's where the "ref" comes into play... http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/v2/?expanded=manage-existing-volume-detail | 14:03 |
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smcginnis | stevemar: I think you got it. Here's more info on the snapshot operations: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/common/cli-manage-volumes.html | 14:07 |
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slotti | Hey guys, I've got a problem between cinder and nova. The API-Request for the attachment containing "os-initialize_connection" needs a lot of time and times out for nova. We are using a IBM v7000 and the iscsi driver. The lun get's attached to the Nova-Host but the request times out for nova. I also should say this only happens if we deploy multiple Instances at the same time. | 14:15 |
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jgriffith | slotti: you mean boot from volume? | 14:23 |
slotti | nope, a additional volume (/dev/vdb). The Instance starts up and volume gets created but is never visible in the instance (I'm using a heat-template to do this) | 14:25 |
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jgriffith | slotti: oh.. interesting | 14:25 |
jgriffith | slotti: so it sounds like you key up a bunch of "nova volume-atttach" calls and hit RPC timeouts from Nova to Cinder? | 14:25 |
slotti | I manually executed the timing out api request and it needs 17 seconds when system is idle | 14:26 |
jgriffith | slotti: which command are you using? | 14:26 |
slotti | I think so | 14:26 |
jgriffith | slotti: what I'm getting at is are you doing this as "nova boot and create/attach volume" | 14:26 |
jgriffith | slotti: or are you pre-creating volumes and attaching them AFTER boot etc | 14:26 |
jgriffith | slotti: there's a couple places this can get squirelly depending on how you're doing it and how responsive the backend device is (API response latency) | 14:27 |
slotti | they get pre created in the heat-template and after instance creation attached to it. The curl is: | 14:27 |
slotti | curl -g -i -X POST https://regioncontrol01.domain.local:8776/v2/c15b1cd8daa6426ba6cb5c597c1e37e4/volumes/cfc710bb-dbb0-4006-8ee1-46aab7bb132f/action -H "User-Agent: python-cinderclient" -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "X-Auth-Token: {SHA1}2e09fa3f1ad178cd93a43b61b2ace1d10ef6636c" -d '{ "os-initialize_connection": { "connector": { "host": "boeosgridnode02.domain.local", | 14:27 |
slotti | redhat:ee7229f9afda", "ip": "9.152.94.14", "multipath": true, "os_type": "linux2", "platform": "x86_64" } }}' | 14:28 |
jgriffith | slotti: how many of them are you talking? | 14:28 |
slotti | If I want to create about 3 or 4 it's successfull. At the moment I'm creating 8 and about 3 or 4 of them get created successfull | 14:29 |
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jgriffith | slotti: so my suspicion is that you're overloading either the backend device and it's API or *maybe* you're grinding Cinder to a slow down that results in the subsequent calls from Nova to hit the RPC timeout | 14:30 |
jgriffith | slotti: any chance you can instrument some log messages in the driver to see if that's where things get hung up? | 14:30 |
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jgriffith | slotti: FWIW, I've seen this sort of thing on a few backends | 14:31 |
slotti | sure | 14:31 |
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jgriffith | slotti: cinder keeps firing in API cmds to the backend, but it queues them up and ends up taking longer than the caller would expect, resulting in an rpc timeout and failure. But the calls actually succeed eventually | 14:32 |
slotti | So I will have a look at the api call of "os-initialize_connection" | 14:32 |
jgriffith | slotti: yeah, but look at it in the driver | 14:32 |
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slotti | jgriffith: Yes I also think they get fired successfull | 14:32 |
jgriffith | slotti: put an "entering/exit" time stamped log entry in it | 14:33 |
jgriffith | slotti: I suspect you'll see all of them eventually respond "ok", but that you'll notice a slow down as they queue up | 14:33 |
jgriffith | slotti: if not... then we need to look further up in the Cinder code itself. | 14:33 |
slotti | Do you know where exactly the cmds get fired? | 14:33 |
jgriffith | which backend are you using? | 14:34 |
slotti | I'm using cinder.volume.drivers.ibm.storwize_svc.storwize_svc_iscsi.StorwizeSVCISCSIDriver | 14:34 |
jgriffith | slotti: that's where you want to look :) | 14:34 |
slotti | jgriffith: ok :-) thank you | 14:34 |
jgriffith | slotti: let me see if I can find exactly where | 14:34 |
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jgriffith | slotti: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/ibm/storwize_svc/storwize_svc_iscsi.py#L112 | 14:35 |
jgriffith | slotti: so there's already some debug logging around "Begin/End" in there | 14:35 |
jgriffith | slotti: you might be able to just look at c-vol logs and get a handle on it | 14:36 |
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jgriffith | slotti: or if you want to pastebin the c-vol log I'm happy to help you look at it | 14:36 |
jgriffith | slotti: OHHh | 14:36 |
jgriffith | slotti: yeah, I'm pretty sure you're sunk :( | 14:36 |
slotti | oO | 14:37 |
jgriffith | slotti: see the lock https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/ibm/storwize_svc/storwize_svc_iscsi.py#L116 | 14:37 |
smcginnis | Sequential operation. | 14:37 |
slotti | jgriffith: jep | 14:37 |
jgriffith | slotti: You're calls are all going to be sequential there. | 14:37 |
smcginnis | The more you do, the longer it will take and more likely to time out. | 14:37 |
slotti | jgriffith: ah ok, that slows everything down ... | 14:37 |
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jgriffith | slotti: so if you look in your c-vol logs for "enter: initialize_connection" you will probably see a "leave: initialize_connection" for each one | 14:38 |
jgriffith | slotti: but I think you might see the period between them get longer and longer :( | 14:38 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 | 14:38 |
jgriffith | slotti: which is likely why your magic number is around 3 or 4 | 14:39 |
jgriffith | slotti: after that the Storwize backend API just doesn't go fast enough for you | 14:39 |
slotti | jgriffith: that explains everything yes .. thank you for your help | 14:39 |
jgriffith | np | 14:39 |
slotti | already spend a day thinking it's wrong configurated | 14:40 |
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slotti | jgriffith: so for example on ceph driver this may not be the case i think | 14:41 |
jgriffith | slotti: perhaps not | 14:42 |
jgriffith | slotti: anytime you see a generic lock on an API call you have this potential | 14:43 |
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jgriffith | slotti: the other thing is *some* backends are just slow!!! You fill their queue and you're screwed | 14:43 |
slotti | jgriffith: yes, makes sense ^^ | 14:43 |
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jgriffith | slotti: locks are a necessary evil, but sometimes not used correctly. Or maybe a back end just can't do simultaneous requests :( | 14:44 |
jgriffith | slotti: in which case it's not a very good thing to use in a "cloud" | 14:44 |
jgriffith | slotti: not claiming to know anything about all the backends by the way... just making general statements (before somebody hollars at me) | 14:45 |
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jungleboyj | slotti: I work with the storwize driver development team here at IBM. I haven't heard of others having an issue like this. | 14:45 |
jgriffith | slotti: see... I wasn't fast enough :) | 14:45 |
jungleboyj | slotti: I wonder if there is some tuning that can be done to avoid this. | 14:45 |
slotti | yes, well it's a special case where we will use it and we are also planning a extra layer for the users. So we may need to have a extra scheduling depending on what get's deployed | 14:45 |
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slotti | jungleboyj: hmm that would be an option | 14:47 |
smcginnis | Increase the RPC timeout? That would at least make the windows a little larger. | 14:47 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: you should be able to test it pretty easily Not sure how that lock in initialize_connection wouldn't make this happen | 14:48 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: +1 | 14:48 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 that's the only option really | 14:48 |
slotti | just the rpc timeout option in nova? | 14:48 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: slotti but be advised that's is set for EVERY rpc call in Nova | 14:48 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: slotti you also need to make sure you're not timing out on Cinder's RPC side of things | 14:48 |
slotti | :D I see this could get ugly very fast | 14:49 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I think it would have to be changed in both nova and cinder. But like jgriffith points out, that affects every call. | 14:49 |
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jgriffith | slotti: it may have some *undesireable* consequences | 14:50 |
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slotti | so, I will now have a look how it is going in cinder-volume :-) Thank you all | 14:51 |
slotti | (the logs) and then decide what we will do | 14:51 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, increating the timeouts would be a starting point. | 14:52 |
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smcginnis | jungleboyj: Might be worth looking into what actually needs locking there and see if the scope of the locked section can get moved down to a smaller method call. | 14:52 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yes. | 14:53 |
smcginnis | jungleboyj: No idea if it's an option or not, but might be good if it is. :) | 14:53 |
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jungleboyj | slotti: Would you be willing to put the info you have in a bug? We can then work together on it and I can get you in contact with Xiao Qin Li who owns that code. | 14:55 |
slotti | jungleboyj: You're from IBM? We may have a talk on Sametime? | 14:56 |
slotti | (me too) | 14:56 |
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jungleboyj | Sure. Yes. I am jsbryant@us.ibm.com | 14:57 |
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jungleboyj | slotti: I am on Sametime but it is good to talk about stuff like this here in the community. | 14:58 |
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slotti | jungleboyj: A colleague is asking for it. I will have a look more into it next day and of course could create a bug report :-) | 15:00 |
erlon_ | scottda: ping | 15:01 |
jungleboyj | slotti: Thanks! Sounds like a good plan. How large are the volumes you are creating? | 15:01 |
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slotti | empty ones using 100GB in my test-case | 15:01 |
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scottda | erlon_: I'm double-booked for meetings ATM... | 15:01 |
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erlon_ | scottda: hmmm, can we talk some time later? | 15:02 |
erlon_ | scottda: after cinder meeting may be? | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Fix versionutils NEWTON reference https://review.openstack.org/370198 | 15:10 |
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scottda | erlon_: sure, or sooner maybe...we normally talk about cinder testing at this hour... | 15:10 |
scottda | eharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon | 15:11 |
e0ne | hi | 15:11 |
eharney | hi | 15:11 |
gouthamr | hey | 15:11 |
akerr | o/ | 15:11 |
scottda | Anything to talk about RE: cinder testing this week? | 15:11 |
smcginnis | o/ | 15:12 |
scottda | #startmeeting cinder_testing | 15:12 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 14 15:12:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is scottda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:12 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:12 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder_testing' | 15:12 |
smcginnis | scottda: Test all the things! | 15:12 |
eharney | one quick thing here | 15:12 |
hemna | smcginnis, +1 | 15:12 |
xyang1 | hi | 15:12 |
hemna | meeting done! | 15:12 |
erlon_ | scottda: hmm ok, its about to start | 15:12 |
smcginnis | hemna: ;) | 15:12 |
eharney | i found another bug just by running our pylint test and looking at it... please don't ignore pylint failures on patches | 15:12 |
erlon_ | hi | 15:12 |
e0ne | :) | 15:12 |
eharney | it's non-voting, but useful | 15:12 |
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scottda | I put something on the main cinder meeting agenda re: testing things for the release | 15:12 |
smcginnis | eharney: +1 | 15:12 |
smcginnis | eharney: We really should have caught that one. :[ | 15:13 |
smcginnis | scottda: Thanks for starting that etherpad. | 15:13 |
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erlon | smcginnis: the testing one? | 15:13 |
scottda | eharney: +1. But there's always the problem of the tests that always fail... | 15:13 |
scottda | They make people ignore the non-voting tests that do fail. | 15:13 |
smcginnis | erlon: Yeah. Not much there so far, but it's a start. | 15:13 |
erlon | smcginnis: mhm | 15:14 |
scottda | Perhaps we should disable or otherwise not report on tests that always fail, and we are not fixing. | 15:14 |
scottda | OR fix them. | 15:14 |
scottda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-newton-testing | 15:14 |
scottda | ^^ That for cinder-newton specific testing. | 15:14 |
erlon | scottda: hmm, hadnt that one | 15:15 |
scottda | That's to call out areas we *should* be testing for the release. | 15:15 |
xyang | can I get some reviews on the groups functional tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362584/ | 15:15 |
scottda | Things that must be tested manually, or we know isn't covered by automated testing. | 15:15 |
scottda | xyang: I'll look today | 15:16 |
xyang | scottda: thanks | 15:16 |
erlon | scottda: do you have an agenda? | 15:17 |
scottda | For today? NO | 15:17 |
scottda | And we can cut it short. I don't want to discuss the same thing we're discussing in cinder meeting... | 15:18 |
erlon | scottda: ok, them, I had some ideas about that we was talking yesterday | 15:18 |
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erlon | scottda: to create a job/tempest tests to cover migration/retype features | 15:19 |
scottda | erlon: Go ahead | 15:19 |
erlon | scottda: the idea is to have some jobs to run only tests related to that, which would reduce the time needed to run them | 15:20 |
erlon | scottda: I added some points in the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Cinder-testing | 15:20 |
scottda | erlon: Sounds fine. You could add an experimental job for that. | 15:20 |
erlon | scottda: we continue with the multi-be tests in tempest, but may be they need some changes in tempest to allow to run the matrix | 15:21 |
erlon | scottda: today the test considers only 2 backends, it would need to consider more if configured so, or a DDT like scheme to run they individually to each BE configured | 15:22 |
scottda | erlon: OK. IF you get some patches up, put them on the etherpad and ping us and we can review. | 15:23 |
erlon | scottda: sure, Ill | 15:23 |
scottda | erlon: Anything else on this? I want to circle back to the problem of ignoring non-voting tests. | 15:24 |
erlon | scottda: no, that's all | 15:24 |
scottda | It seems that gate-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack-nv and gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full-nv regularly fail. | 15:25 |
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erlon | scottda: how often? | 15:25 |
scottda | And that leads to people getting used to Big Red Failures on the non-voting tests. I think this leads to people generally ignoring them. | 15:25 |
scottda | erlon: I don't know how often, I just ignore them. | 15:25 |
scottda | :) | 15:26 |
erlon | scottda: haha that is a problem | 15:26 |
erlon | scottda: usually I ignore all non voting tests not related to what Im changing | 15:26 |
erlon | scottda: for example, for the NFS patch, I always look for 'true' negatives in any NFS derived CI | 15:27 |
scottda | I think if things are failing, and we're not fixing them, we should consider a way to disable them. I know that getting things out, and then back in, to the infra repos can be a PITA. | 15:27 |
scottda | eharney: smcginnis e0ne What do you think? | 15:27 |
jgriffith | scottda: who is going to *do* that? | 15:28 |
jgriffith | scottda: and also that should apply to 3'rd party CI right? | 15:28 |
scottda | jgriffith: Well, that's part of the issue. It's certainly easiest to just do nothing. | 15:28 |
jgriffith | scottda: none of this is a new complaint or revelation... but the same problem exists. WHO is going to do it and how | 15:28 |
e0ne | scottda: I think gate-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack-nv and gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full-nv cases are different | 15:29 |
e0ne | who does maintain gate-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack-nv? | 15:29 |
jgriffith | scottda: "step-1: Define a criteria" | 15:29 |
jgriffith | "step-2: Define an action/process" | 15:29 |
jgriffith | "step-3: Define who does what" | 15:30 |
e0ne | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full-nv - IMO, we should fix it or move to experimental | 15:30 |
jgriffith | "step-4: do it" | 15:30 |
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jgriffith | scottda: "those tests fail a lot" isn't an actionable criteria | 15:30 |
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e0ne | jgriffith, scottda: agree. we have to compare their failules with tempest over lvm job | 15:31 |
erlon | if a tests fail mor than X%? | 15:31 |
jgriffith | e0ne: scottda I guess a good start would be some ER queries maybe to get some data? | 15:31 |
e0ne | jgriffith, scottda: yes, we did it in the past to make some jobs voting or move from the experimental queue | 15:32 |
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erlon | jgriffith: there's someone working in a tool to get that isnt? | 15:32 |
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scottda | sorry, browser crapped out on me.. | 15:32 |
jgriffith | erlon: not sure where those efforts are any more | 15:33 |
jgriffith | erlon: seems like a topic everyone loves to talk about but not really interested in working on | 15:33 |
erlon | IIRC _alastor_ was doint | 15:33 |
jgriffith | erlon: I'm as guilty as the next on that :( | 15:33 |
scottda | jgriffith: You are right on that. I am guilty on that. | 15:33 |
scottda | alright, I guess we go back to : Don't ignore the non-voting tests, just the ones that always fail and should be ignored. | 15:34 |
erlon | johnthetubaguy: so step 0: should 'be able to measure who and how much are failing' | 15:34 |
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erlon | jgriffith: ^ | 15:34 |
e0ne | scottda: more or less, but everybody ignores nv jobs:( | 15:35 |
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jgriffith | so to be fair, the pylint test is a special case. That realy should never be ignored and it doesn't have false failures very often. | 15:35 |
eharney | yeah, pylint is not exactly the same thing as a tempest run | 15:35 |
scottda | e0ne: Yes, well, that's what motivated me to bring it up. But I guess I'm not motivated enough to fix the whole thing.. | 15:35 |
e0ne | erlon: you can use http://graphite.openstack.org/ to compare how much failures ware against lvm job | 15:35 |
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jgriffith | e0ne: oh, neat... I hadn't seen that | 15:36 |
e0ne | scottda: it's not a problem to fix some nv job | 15:36 |
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jgriffith | e0ne: I have no idea how in the hell to use it... but it looks pretty :) | 15:36 |
e0ne | scottda: it's very hard to get it passing on a regular basis | 15:36 |
scottda | e0ne: You mean to fix it so it passes? | 15:36 |
e0ne | scottda: yep | 15:36 |
erlon | e0ne: does it gather information about all gate tests? | 15:36 |
e0ne | jgriffith: it has an ugly UX :( | 15:37 |
scottda | Well, maybe not a problem, but it doesn't get the same attention and voting jobs. | 15:37 |
erlon | jgriffith: +1 it looks awesome indeed :) | 15:37 |
jgriffith | e0ne: LOL... reminds me of Windows | 15:37 |
erlon | e0ne: I liked it | 15:37 |
e0ne | erlon: yes, it has information for 3-6 last months | 15:37 |
scottda | Anyway, maybe if we decide to make Otaca a "stability release", this could be part of the efforts. Maybe there's not much else to do without more interest. | 15:38 |
erlon | e0ne: that can solve part of the problem, the gate jobs | 15:38 |
erlon | scottda: +1 on that | 15:38 |
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e0ne | one more time | 15:39 |
e0ne | for example: we will fix failures for pylint job | 15:39 |
jgriffith | e0ne: :) | 15:39 |
erlon | e0ne: do you know how to find a comparation there? | 15:39 |
e0ne | how will we keep it passing? | 15:39 |
e0ne | erlon: I did it in the past... | 15:40 |
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e0ne | erlon: I try to make an example now | 15:42 |
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erlon | e0ne: nice | 15:43 |
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scottda | alright, maybe we revisit this it there's time and effort available to actually fix it. | 15:45 |
e0ne | erlon: something like http://graphite.openstack.org/render/?width=586&height=308&_salt=1473867901.344&from=-5months&target=stats.zuul.pipeline.check.job.gate-cinder-python27-db.FAILURE&target=stats.zuul.pipeline.check.job.gate-cinder-python34.FAILURE | 15:45 |
e0ne | scottda: it's a good topic for design session | 15:47 |
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erlon | e0ne: 0.10 = 10% failure? | 15:48 |
scottda | OK, anything else before the next meeting? | 15:49 |
scottda | let's take a break then... | 15:50 |
scottda | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 15:50:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_testing/2016/cinder_testing.2016-09-14-15.12.html | 15:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_testing/2016/cinder_testing.2016-09-14-15.12.txt | 15:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_testing/2016/cinder_testing.2016-09-14-15.12.log.html | 15:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: ISCSI initialize_connection fixes https://review.openstack.org/370275 | 16:22 |
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kfarr | hey eharney, do you have a minute to talk about your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366750/ | 16:58 |
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jarvis | hey | 17:00 |
jarvis | anyone online | 17:00 |
jarvis | i am configuring openstack | 17:02 |
jarvis | for volume encrption with key manager | 17:02 |
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jarvis | have some doubt and issues in the same | 17:03 |
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_alastor__ | nick _alastor_ | 17:11 |
_alastor__ | whoops ;) | 17:11 |
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jarvis | hello | 17:15 |
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jgriffith | hmmm.... gerrit bot is sleeping on the job | 17:19 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: that patch I was having so much CI trouble with... turns out I didn't even need it :( | 17:20 |
jgriffith | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370324/ | 17:20 |
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jgriffith | smcginnis: it's fixed in current master, only exists in M and L | 17:20 |
cFouts | smcginnis: hey, I've had a patch up for about 3 weeks now, that is targeted for RC1, that hasn't received any core reviews as of yet. Are you planning on untargeting https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1596679 today? Just need to know for a planning meeting this afternnoon. Thanks | 17:20 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1596679 in Cinder "NetApp - Backing snapshots may not be deleted" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chuck Fouts (fchuck) | 17:20 |
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nikeshm | smcginnis: good morning is any date finalized for RC-1 | 17:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR use OSLO versioned Object for volume https://review.openstack.org/339147 | 17:37 |
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openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add xUnknownSliceID to retry list https://review.openstack.org/370346 | 17:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext: Fix the version name https://review.openstack.org/370351 | 18:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Create initiator group in single call https://review.openstack.org/369473 | 19:00 |
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waj334 | t | 19:41 |
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waj334 | tt | 19:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: NFS snapshots https://review.openstack.org/147186 | 19:47 |
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hemna | !! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 20:03 |
openstack | hemna: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 20:03 |
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_alastor__ | hemna: ┬─┬ ノ( ^_^ノ) there you go! | 20:05 |
hemna | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdsKnAic32A | 20:05 |
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hemna | :) | 20:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark T. Voelker proposed openstack/cinder: Mark v1 as DEPRECATED in devref https://review.openstack.org/370409 | 20:08 |
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ayoung | Hey Cinder COres can you please move this one along: been open since early July, trivial change, and will help fix security and access control across all of openstack. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340195/4 | 20:11 |
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hemna | ayoung, you might want to talk to smcginnis about getting that on the RC1 candidate's list for bug fixes | 20:17 |
hemna | ayoung, this is our current list https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/newton-rc1 | 20:17 |
ayoung | hemna, no need to commit to it. Just get people to review it. | 20:17 |
hemna | well we can't approve it unless it's on the list for RC1 | 20:18 |
hemna | since we are so late in the release | 20:18 |
hemna | it looks pretty safe to me | 20:21 |
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ayoung | Yeah. I just found out that the fix I got into Keystone LAST RELEASE is ineffective, not just because everything enforce policy on context, but then they do their own things on top of that | 20:22 |
ayoung | Nova, and Neutron are still wrong even with this fix. | 20:22 |
hemna | I set the importance, but I'll leave it to smcginnis to set the milestone at this point. | 20:24 |
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hemna | thanks for bringing it up. just wish we had noticed it earlier | 20:24 |
ayoung | hemna, thanks | 20:24 |
ayoung | much appreciated | 20:24 |
hemna | np | 20:24 |
waj334 | Can I get some +2 action? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352958/ | 20:26 |
hemna | we need SSL? | 20:27 |
hemna | :) | 20:27 |
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waj334 | Yes and no, but it used to be an option | 20:28 |
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hemna | that same option used to be in there? | 20:38 |
hemna | but was removed? | 20:38 |
hemna | makes me wonder why | 20:39 |
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patrickeast | hemna: maybe just an oversight when https://github.com/openstack/cinder/commit/b4c8bb3912972a4417c9efa93cb209f5efe76a14 landed | 20:40 |
waj334 | Also need +2 on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348004/ | 20:40 |
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zigo | Any idea why my Cinder package fails to build its doc? http://logs.openstack.org/98/370398/1/check/gate-deb-cinder-dpkg-debian-jessie/02d7c89/console.html | 21:02 |
zigo | (yeah... building on openstack infra!!! :) ) | 21:02 |
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zigo | I think I have an idea though... :P | 21:03 |
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patrickeast | zigo: looks like the list driver script thingy blew up http://logs.openstack.org/98/370398/1/check/gate-deb-cinder-dpkg-debian-jessie/02d7c89/console.html#_2016-09-14_20_03_57_625836 | 21:05 |
patrickeast | as to why... dunno | 21:05 |
zigo | patrickeast: I added a PYTHONPATH=. | 21:05 |
zigo | IMO, it's not finding its own files because of it. | 21:05 |
zigo | patrickeast: The important bit is a few lines later: http://logs.openstack.org/98/370398/1/check/gate-deb-cinder-dpkg-debian-jessie/02d7c89/console.html#_2016-09-14_20_03_57_626112 | 21:06 |
zigo | ie: ImportError: No module named cinder.interface | 21:06 |
patrickeast | yea | 21:07 |
patrickeast | zigo: a quick check of the latest tree shows that its still there, so much be the PYTHONPATH | 21:07 |
zigo | Hopefully yes. | 21:07 |
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zigo | Let's wait until it finish rebuilding. | 21:07 |
zigo | patrickeast: Are you guys happy of b3 btw, or is there a lot of RC to expect? | 21:08 |
patrickeast | zigo: so far it doesn't look like there is too much left targeted for RC-1, which i hope means not much for later RC's https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/newton-rc1 | 21:09 |
zigo | Hum... that's mostly drivers bug. | 21:10 |
zigo | :) | 21:10 |
patrickeast | yea, pretty minor stuff too | 21:10 |
openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/cinder: Modifies override logic for key_manager https://review.openstack.org/366750 | 21:11 |
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zigo | There's intermitent failures with these 2 tests: | 21:47 |
zigo | cinder.tests.unit.backup.test_backup.BackupTestCase.test_create_backup_with_temp_snapshot | 21:47 |
zigo | cinder.tests.unit.test_volume.VolumeMigrationTestCase.test_retype_volume_migration_success | 21:47 |
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eharney | zigo: of what sort? | 21:49 |
zigo | eharney: http://logs.openstack.org/91/369191/1/check/gate-deb-cinder-dpkg-debian-jessie/048bc78/console.html#_2016-09-14_19_07_26_504550 | 21:50 |
eharney | zigo: the second is https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1582306 -- i have some patches up to fix this but they need updates now | 21:51 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1582306 in Cinder "test_retype_volume_migration_failed "Notifier count incorrect"" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) | 21:51 |
zigo | eharney: Ok, good. What about the other one? | 21:51 |
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eharney | zigo: not sure, but that one looks less like something that would be intermittent... | 21:52 |
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zigo | eharney: Well, I ran all of unit tests once without a single failure... | 21:52 |
zigo | eharney: See: http://logs.openstack.org/98/370398/1/check/gate-deb-cinder-dpkg-debian-jessie/02d7c89/console.html | 21:53 |
zigo | (there's an error with the sphinx doc, but unit tests were ok) | 21:53 |
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zigo | No change at all in the packaging but adding PYTHONPATH=. when running sphinx... | 21:54 |
zigo | I've filed : https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1623687 | 21:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1623687 in Cinder "Intermitent Newton unit test failures" [Undecided,New] | 21:56 |
eharney | zigo: oh, i see what's going on there. FakeConnector moved between os-brick versions, and there's some weird code in Cinder tests for this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cinder/tree/cinder/tests/unit/backup/test_backup.py?id=a42c5c14#n644 | 21:56 |
eharney | that code doesn't look like a good way to do this to me | 21:56 |
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eharney | may be intermittent because some mock somewhere else makes it work some of the time | 21:57 |
zigo | I have packaged the latest os-brick (ie: 1.6.1) | 21:57 |
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zigo | eharney: Thanks for helping! :) | 22:01 |
zigo | eharney: IMO, these 2 issues are RC. | 22:01 |
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eharney | zigo: i'm not totally sure what's going on w/ the brick connector one, will take a further look tomorrow if someone else hasn't jumped on it | 22:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/os-brick: DISCO: Log init message as debug https://review.openstack.org/370453 | 22:07 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ping | 22:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Drew Balfour proposed openstack/cinder: zfssaiscsi driver initiator group option processing https://review.openstack.org/351413 | 22:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Use to_policy_values for enforcing policy https://review.openstack.org/340195 | 22:57 |
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patrickeast | hemnafk: so uh, bad news with the iscsi session stuff i was seeing, i can repro the session logout issue with lvm too https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick/+bug/1623692 | 23:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1623692 in os-brick "single-path iscsi connections are not logged out when disconnecting a volume" [Undecided,New] | 23:07 |
patrickeast | leads me to believe other backends with iscsi and single portal connections might be in trouble :( | 23:08 |
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patrickeast | ew wait | 23:12 |
patrickeast | looks like it only happens when multipathing is enabled for libvirt and there is only a single session | 23:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Karthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes the length of resource field in database for quota tables https://review.openstack.org/355214 | 23:20 |
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smcginnis | jungleboyj: Still there? | 23:57 |
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