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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/371293 | 07:02 |
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| dulek | Soooo, master is now open for Ocata? :) | 07:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/cinder: Resize ploop disk from glance https://review.openstack.org/362167 | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - No support for creating CG from CG source https://review.openstack.org/365739 | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x scheduler RPC API https://review.openstack.org/371447 | 11:17 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: Yep, technically master is now Ocata. | 12:26 |
| smcginnis | dulek: And we need to remember to "backport" to stable/newton now for anything RC2 worthy. | 12:27 |
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| alkhodos | Hi everyone. I was wondering is there a way to see provider_location of a volume somehow? Other than the logs obviously. | 13:33 |
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| smcginnis | alkhodos: That's internal data so we don't expose that in any output. | 13:38 |
| smcginnis | alkhodos: You can query the database directly. | 13:39 |
| alkhodos | smcginnis: got it, thanks | 13:41 |
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| alkhodos | smcginnis: does openstack-cinder use same db as devstack (mysql) or is it configurable? | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Ensure VMAX volume matches cinder db volume https://review.openstack.org/371545 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/371293 | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Update reno for stable/newton https://review.openstack.org/371216 | 13:47 |
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| smcginnis | alkhodos: By default all services use the same database server. | 13:52 |
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| alkhodos | smcginnis: thx | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: jgriffith: are we meeting on monday to prep for the summit? | 14:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: did that spec get written about the API changes, not had chance to dig into that yet | 14:23 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: jgriffith: I would like to have a meeting if folks are around | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am hoping we can get some OSIC help with pushing things forward, mostly from the perspective of making live-migrate more reliable. | 14:32 |
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| scottda | ildikov: Sorry I didn't respond to your email. I think carrying on with Monday's time slot is probably best. | 14:37 |
| ildikov | scottda: no worries, you're not the only one :) | 14:41 |
| ildikov | scottda: I thought too as I would think the issue why people are less available is the phase of the release cycle rather than the slot itself, but I'm mistaken | 14:42 |
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| scottda | ildikov: nope, I think that's it. | 14:45 |
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| smcginnis | Any interest in doing something like this for Cinder? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-retrospective | 15:03 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: Absolutely | 15:09 |
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| thrawn01 | smcginnis: in reference to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/ | 15:13 |
| thrawn01 | smcginnis: do you have a recommendation on how to proceed? | 15:13 |
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| thrawn01 | This conversation appeared to indicate generating a support matrix from the interface was the way to go. | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Not really at this point, unfortunately. | 15:14 |
| thrawn01 | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-06-29-16.00.log.html | 15:14 |
| thrawn01 | search for "interface" | 15:14 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: Yeah, it is I think. But not the ABC classes. | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: We should be able to do something like isinstance(interfaces.volume_snapshot_driver) | 15:15 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: We would probably need more interface classes defined. | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Which I think we should do so they can serve their double purpose as driver documentation. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | I see what's in cinder.interfaces as a start. | 15:16 |
| thrawn01 | What is the impetus for abandoning the ABC classes? | 15:17 |
| thrawn01 | I was under the impression that is a new addition | 15:17 |
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| thrawn01 | it doesn't appear that the other interfaces are actually used in any driver. for instance, I don't see any driver subclassing VolumeDriverCore | 15:21 |
| thrawn01 | all the drivers are using the ABCMeta Classes | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Right. That was one of the things with those interfaces was to keep them as separately defined. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: We added the ABC classes in Liberty I think. Maybe kilo. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: They didn't work out the way I think most people thought they would. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: So almost right from the start we started talking about removing them. | 15:23 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-newton-retrospective | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | I'll add that to the meeting agenda next week. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Even if we don't have a design summit session on it, it might be good to have that as somewhere where everyone can share thoughts. | 15:23 |
| thrawn01 | until there is wide spread adoption of the new interface thingy, my patch is the correct way to implement the support matrix yes? | 15:25 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: No, I don't think so. | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: That will just make their removal that much more difficult. | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Why not stick with the interfaces? | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Since that's the way we're trying to go, that's what should be used for generating something like this. | 15:26 |
| thrawn01 | it is possible to generate an accurate support matrix using the new interfaces? I noticed none of the drivers are using them. Or would my task also involve converting all the drivers to us the new interfaces | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: That's the thing. None of the drivers need to use them. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: They just implement support for what they want to support. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: And don't accidentally inherit anything they don't want to support. | 15:27 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: But you can do something like: | 15:28 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: if isinstance(driver, cinder.interface.volume_consistencygroup_driver): supports_cg = True | 15:28 |
| thrawn01 | this is news to me, will 'issubclass(driver.cls, volume_driver.VolumeDriverCore)' return true if the class implements all the methods but isn't an actual subclass? | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Yep | 15:28 |
| thrawn01 | mind blown | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: ;) | 15:28 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: Google "goose typing". It's like duck typing, but goosier. | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Here's the secret sauce: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/interface/base.py#L77 | 15:30 |
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| thrawn01 | smcginnis: ah, this makes more sense now | 15:31 |
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| smcginnis | thrawn01: Good. It has the drawback that it's not obvious and not commonly known. But it is really slick. | 15:32 |
| thrawn01 | looks like we are still missing some interfaces that ABC has already, is it ok, If I include new interface types in my patch? | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Yeah, that would be awesome. | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Here's a test that we were able to add because of that to make sure all drivers implement at least the core required interfaces: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/tests/compliance/test_volume_drivers.py#L40 | 15:33 |
| thrawn01 | so a 1 to 1 ABC class to new interface class is ok? | 15:33 |
| thrawn01 | smcginnis: yeah, I noticed | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: And it enables us to generate good-er documentation for new driver developers: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/drivers.html#driver-development-documentations | 15:34 |
| thrawn01 | smcginnis: wasn't sure how it worked, until you explained it | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: I'm guessing 1:1 probably is right. | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Cool, glad I didn't just cause more confusion for once. ;) | 15:35 |
| thrawn01 | I added a new class var to the ABC interfaces called 'SHORT_DESCRIPTION' | 15:35 |
| thrawn01 | is this acceptable in the new interfaces, or do you have some direction for this? | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: Yeah, I think that would be OK. Have each interface class have a SHORT_DESCRIPTION of what it is for. Seems OK. | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Add API Reference for groups https://review.openstack.org/370526 | 15:37 |
| bswartz | smcginnis: don't forget about swan typing and cuckoo typing | 15:39 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Can't tell if you're serious or not. :D | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Cuz the sad thing is that's believable enough not to know for sure. ;) | 15:40 |
| bswartz | indeed | 15:40 |
| bswartz | my googling turned up this and I thought it was funny: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCyHrGWWgAEg02G.jpg | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | I think we have plenty of cuckoo typing. | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | LOL | 15:41 |
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| ildikov | scottda: Cool, I will send out a reminder mail to the ML for next Monday. | 15:43 |
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| thrawn01 | smcginnis: I'm not sure what to put for the comments on some of these interface methods. IE: I'm not gonna do a nice a job as you did with the other interfaces. I'm actually not even sure what the "LocalVD" interface is supposed to allow a driver todo | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Add API Reference for groups https://review.openstack.org/370526 | 15:54 |
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| Swanson | A couple review requests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361453/ | 16:06 |
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| Swanson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370275/1 | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | thrawn01: That's OK. You can probably just throw in same basic comments for now, then someone that's inclined to work on documentation could spend some time elaborating later. | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: patrickeast qq... do you guys do a rebase against master on the patches you test in your CI? | 16:22 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: patrickeast or do you just use them *as is* and let em fail if they're not up to date? | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: No, I don't rebase. | 16:23 |
| patrickeast | I think mine are as is | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: And I've been bit because of it a few times. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | last week in fact. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Now I understand why upstream does the rebase. | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | yeah... I usually don't like the idea; but I'm going through my CI failures and notice that a bunch seem to be *waiting* for a change | 16:24 |
| patrickeast | iirc it only does a rebate on gate and not check queue | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | I guess it doesn't/shouldn't happen often | 16:25 |
| patrickeast | Rebase** | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I think that may be correct | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | guess I should make sure my theory is even correct here first :) | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | the other thing that's annoying is all the DAMN FC privsep error messages in my logs :( | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | hemnafk: jgriffith he's singing your tune. | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: "singing his tune"... haha I've been cursing his name!!! :) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah! He's been complaining about that since it merged I think. :) | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah he has :) | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Definitely more fine tuning needed in privsep yet. | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: but I still hold him ultimately respsonsible, just because; well why not :) | 16:28 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Sounds like a good reason to me! :D | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:29 |
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| jgriffith | @#$# ^$#@ !@#& &$#@@! ing @#$#@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | jgriffith@bdr75:~$ nova image-list | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | WARNING: Command image-list is deprecated and will be removed after Nova 15.0.0 is released. Use python-glanceclient or openstackclient instead. | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | ERROR (VersionNotFoundForAPIMethod): API version 'API Version Major: 2, Minor: 37' is not supported on 'list' method. | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | at least 3x a week my muscle memory types "nova image-list" and I want to cry!!! | 16:31 |
| scottda | Just alias it | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I've been trying to get in the habit of using osc. | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | or I confuse what version of OpenStack I"m on | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | It hasn't set yet though. | 16:32 |
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| jgriffith | yeah... I actually like OSC better for the most part anyway | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | I just find it highly annoying though that the deprecation includes making it not work without special settings | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Tru | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | !! | 16:34 |
| openstack | smcginnis: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Dang, still don't have my bot macro. :) | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | especially given the complaints against cinder and deprecation regarding driver removal... seems a bit hypocritical | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Very true! | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: What's your macro going to do for "!!" ? | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | !! | 16:35 |
| openstack | jgriffith: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 16:35 |
| Swanson | Where's the storyboard? | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | I'll just type that everybody until one Christmas morning I get a surprise :) | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Off hand comment in the meeting yesterday and bswartz went ahead and filed a storyboard for it. | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Let me see if I can find it. | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | Oh.. haha, I missed that (weird though because I was at the meeting) | 16:35 |
| Swanson | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000726 | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | There it is! | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | Really think it should inject a table flip. That would just be awesome. | 16:36 |
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| jgriffith | lmao!!!!!! | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | You know, we're working on the really important stuff here! :) | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:38 |
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| Swanson | :) | 16:38 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: smcginnis: oh, so to take it back (i just got back to my desk) anyone using the infra based ci can flip theirs to work either way by changing the manager for the pipeline from independent to depedent http://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/zuul.html#pipelines | 16:39 |
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| patrickeast | and you can see what jobs in the upstream jenkins stuff is doing what if you sift through layout.yaml in the project-config repo | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: oh nice | 16:39 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: smcginnis so yeah... FTR check is Indep and Gate is Dep | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Huh, I thought check queue rebased too. But makes sense gate would need to. | 16:45 |
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| xinli | @smcginnis: could you please help to review the patch 285640? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285640/ | 17:05 |
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| smcginnis | xinli: Sure, I'll put it on my list. | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Philipp Marek proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD: Report an error if a snapshot has vanished https://review.openstack.org/347273 | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Philipp Marek proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD: Avoid duplicated volumes from the error path https://review.openstack.org/347274 | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derrick Wippler proposed openstack/cinder: Generate support matrix using driver interfaces https://review.openstack.org/371169 | 19:32 |
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| xinli | xyang1: could you pleas ehelp review code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285640/ | 20:04 |
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| xyang1 | xinli: sure, I'll take a look | 20:09 |
| xinli | xyang1: thx | 20:10 |
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| sam64 | hey there! i have been working with Philipp Marek in the austria office and am with LinBit. i'll be eventually taking over his Cinder projects. just wanted to introduce myself and request a review a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347268 | 22:54 |
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