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| TommyLikeHu | hey | 12:33 |
| TommyLikeHu | erlong: what for? | 12:34 |
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| erlon | hemna: hey TommyLikeHu | 13:24 |
| erlon | I was trying to reach zhongjun about the revert snapshots spec, but now I see that you are working on it | 13:25 |
| erlon | TommyLikeHu: are you working with her or following up her work? | 13:27 |
| erlon | TommyLikeHu: I think this is a good topic to bring to the Ocata Summit, as this can involve many vendors | 13:28 |
| erlon | hemna: oops, miss poked you | 13:28 |
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| DuncanT | erlon: There was a fair amount of resistance to revert at the midcycle | 13:37 |
| DuncanT | erlon: I really don't think it likely that that has changed unless the arguments have changed? | 13:37 |
| erlon | DuncanT: hmm, I guess that people against will have the same argmuments, I didn't remember any discussions about that in the agenda | 13:38 |
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| erlon | DuncanT: was that documented somewhere? | 13:39 |
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| erlon | DuncanT: this topic is always coming back and forth, it would be good to have a list of the points | 13:40 |
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| erlon | DuncanT: one thing I remember is the need of having a generic implementation, but that is covered in the actual spec | 13:41 |
| erlon | DuncanT: also, as Manila is working in this as well, they must have people and use cases worth to consider | 13:42 |
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| DuncanT | erlon: One strong argument against was the level of complication to the API, and the fact that several folks needed destructive revert (i.e. revert destroyed the snapshot), which I and several others consider terrible UX | 13:53 |
| DuncanT | erlon: There's no strong usecase in the spec, and I've currently a strong -2 on it | 13:53 |
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| DuncanT | erlon: Apart from one vendor who appears to have a terrible internal implementation of snaps, there's no data transfer advantage | 13:54 |
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| erlon | DuncanT: it does not make sense to destroy the snapshot you are reverting to, the idea in the spec does not mention that | 13:56 |
| DuncanT | erlon: Some folks said that's how their revert works | 13:56 |
| erlon | DuncanT: what is the API complication? The only complication I see is the need to add another API, then increasing the number of APs | 13:57 |
| erlon | DuncanT: then they should use the generic implementation | 13:57 |
| erlon | DuncanT: if a vendor won't make benefit of having its own implementation, it should just leave it to the generic | 13:58 |
| DuncanT | erlon: It's also a fairly ugly API, with things like a requirement of the implicit knowledge of which is the latest snapshot. Without a really good reason to add the API, we don't need the complication | 13:58 |
| DuncanT | erlon: There's no substantial gains mentioned in the spec, and in general, doing a revert rather than creating a new volume is a worse workflow, since you loose the ability to investigate what went wrong... if you could revert to any snapshot then you can work around that, but we removed that because some vendors can't do it | 13:59 |
| erlon | DuncanT: actually no, see my last suggestion, its only needed to do a revert in the volume (as the proposal only allows to revert to the last snapshot), if the volume has snapshots it will revert to the last, otherwise is an eerror | 14:01 |
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| DuncanT | But if you've got six snaps of the volume, you need to go check which one it will / did revert to. Ugly. It's just not a clear and clear API | 14:02 |
| DuncanT | Without a really strong usecase, there is absolutely no goodreason to add it | 14:02 |
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| erlon | DuncanT: whats the ugliness of getting the list of snapshots and picking the last? | 14:05 |
| erlon | DuncanT: considering the use cases, at least for me, what makes more difference is the user experience (much easier to revert than the process os creating another VM from the snap) | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | erlon, DuncanT: Our storage has this capability, but we don't expose it in our public API for the reasons DuncanT elluded to. | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | erlon: If something goes wrong, it's a really quick way of losing data. | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | erlon: It's much safer to just create a volume from snapshot and access that. | 14:08 |
| erlon | smcginnis: revert to the last snap or any required? | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Not sure I understand what your saying there. | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | erlon: "any required"? | 14:10 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: any request | 14:10 |
| erlon | smcginnis: the spec proposes reverting to the last snap | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Sorry, still not understanding what any request means. :) | 14:11 |
| erlon | smcginnis: your BE reverts to the last or any snap of the volume?? | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | erlon: And requested snapshot? | 14:11 |
| erlon | smcginnis: mhm lol | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Ah, OK. Yes, we can revert to any snapshot. | 14:11 |
| erlon | smcginnis: DuncanT: I consider the UX experience is strong to me because in our infra we use vCenter to develop, and lacking of revert is one of the reasons we haven't migrated to OStack yet | 14:15 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: but don't know how common is this in the OS world | 14:16 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: Yeah, it is super useful. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | But maybe the puppies versus cattle thing. Don't care and feed your dev vms. Just get a new one? | 14:21 |
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