Friday, 2016-12-16

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openstackgerritRaunak Kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Add Rest API Support for Nimble Storage  https://review.openstack.org/40932100:54
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openstackgerritRyan Liang proposed openstack/cinder: Support to backup volume via snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/41058702:14
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openstackgerrithaobing proposed openstack/cinder: Cinder consistency group returning generic error message  https://review.openstack.org/40836504:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Use method is_valid_boolstr from oslo_utils  https://review.openstack.org/38572104:59
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openstackgerritGaurang Tapase proposed openstack/cinder: GPFS: Enhance GPFS driver to work in container  https://review.openstack.org/41137705:14
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Migrate consistency groups to groups  https://review.openstack.org/35035005:42
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: CG API changes for migrating CGs  https://review.openstack.org/40183905:49
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vladaniplease review this patch.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403564/06:32
vladaniit needs +2 to get merge06:32
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openstackgerrityixuan zhang proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: Add volume qos parameter Bandwidth_limit  https://review.openstack.org/40014307:05
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openstackgerritKazumasa Nomura proposed openstack/cinder: Add Consistency Group Support for the Hitachi VSP driver  https://review.openstack.org/41109307:37
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openstackgerritxiaoqin proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: create vol fails near licensed limit  https://review.openstack.org/40742308:03
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Rolling upgrade procedure documentation  https://review.openstack.org/39339510:08
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openstackgerritKazumasa Nomura proposed openstack/cinder: Add Consistency Group Support for the Hitachi VSP driver  https://review.openstack.org/41109310:37
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openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Drop the judgement condition for FakeConnector  https://review.openstack.org/41073212:03
openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Drop version validation  https://review.openstack.org/40844612:03
openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: cors: update default configuration  https://review.openstack.org/39357712:04
openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Enable DeprecationWarning in test environments  https://review.openstack.org/38004712:04
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openstackgerritmorfy proposed openstack/cinder: Cluster volume group fix in lvm  https://review.openstack.org/39626912:21
openstackgerritmorfy proposed openstack/cinder: Cluster volume group fix in lvm  https://review.openstack.org/39626912:23
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openstackgerritJon Bernard proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: postpone snapshot removal until final volume deleted  https://review.openstack.org/28155012:40
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hemnamorning13:53
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smcginnishemna: You freak me out when you show up this early. :)14:00
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hemna:)14:00
hemnagotta keep you guessin14:00
smcginnis;)14:00
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duleksmcginnis: I've answered you in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346041/ :)14:03
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smcginnisDoh!14:07
smcginnisShould have realized that. :)14:07
smcginnisUsed to be much easier to see dependent patches in the old UI.14:08
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smcginnisBeen a while since we've had a good rant on the new gerrit UI, right hemna? :)14:08
hemnashit yah14:09
hemnathe UI that needs to drown14:09
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duleksmcginnis, hemna: There's always https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ruesga.rview :D14:25
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dulekPretty awesome during long, don't-bring-a-laptop meetings.14:25
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openstackgerritzhangsong proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog Thin Provisioning stats  https://review.openstack.org/41184114:38
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smcginnisdulek: Oh nice!14:47
smcginnisI actually was surprised no one used the API to make a better interface.14:48
dulekThey've did - gertty. ;)14:48
dulekI'm unable to use it because it doesn't have syntax hightlighting and I'm used to that.14:49
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smcginnisTried twice, still never able to get it to seem to work right.14:49
smcginnisShould probably try again.14:49
dulekAnd I guess anyone willing to create a better web interface would simply contribute to gerrit upstream.14:49
dulekhttps://android-review.googlesource.com/c/315623/ - 2.13.3, but it's something called PolyGerrit.14:50
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smcginnisdulek: I saw some screenshots of polygerrit a while back. Looked like a pretty major rewrite.14:52
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eantysheveharney, jgriffith, smcginnis: Hello, can I ask you for an opinion on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357679? the process is stuck, and I don't know what to do next. This is a known thing when qemu-img has legacy names for disk formats: f.e. cinder/image/image_utils.py allows for legacy 'vpc' name for 'vhd' format. But we were rejected to do the same thing for "ploop" format15:08
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Ping.15:08
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jgriffitheantyshev seems fine to me if you want to push an update for the existing comments, even those, don't seem like a big deal15:11
smcginnisjungleboyj: sup15:11
jgriffitheantyshev so to try and be clear, the problem I had with the other approach was all of the cascading checks it added to the image_utils code15:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Hey, so we have this:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40356415:12
jgriffithdon't know if that makes sense or not15:12
jungleboyjI have looked at it a couple times and don't know what to do there.15:13
smcginnisjungleboyj: OK, yea15:13
jungleboyjIt really seems like that should go into driver fixes.15:13
smcginnisThat was my though.15:13
smcginnist15:13
smcginnisI wouldnt' consider that a "critical fix"15:13
smcginnisBut I guess that depends on your perspective. 3par users may think otherwise.15:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis: :-)15:14
smcginnisBut even then, it's not like the driver is broken. Just could behave better under a specific situation.15:14
dulekWell, we have some definitions for that…: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage#Task_2:_Prioritize_confirmed_bugs_.28bug_supervisors.2915:14
hemna3par has users?15:14
smcginnis:)15:14
dulekAnd yes, it doesn't qualify as critical per the defnitions.15:14
smcginnisdulek: right15:15
hemnaso15:15
dulekCould probably be high.15:15
jungleboyjhemna: What do you think?15:15
hemnathat being said, did we figure out the process for bugs for older releases yet?15:15
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smcginnishemna: We got our first driverfixes/mitaka patch landed.15:15
smcginnishemna: Looks like we got the jobs sorted so it just runs pep8.15:16
hemnashouldn't this one go against that branch then ?15:16
smcginnishemna: That was my thought.15:16
hemnaok  I'll -1 it and tell them to change the branch15:16
smcginnisThat would work for me.15:16
jgriffithOh, is Mitaka Security only now?15:17
jungleboyjYeah, we have that process now and I think we should use it.15:17
jungleboyjjgriffith: Or critical bug fixes.15:17
hemnaok I -1'd it with the comment15:17
smcginnisjgriffith: Yep. Goes quick, doesn't it.15:17
jungleboyjhemna: Thanks.15:17
jgriffithgeesh15:18
e0nehi. is anybody from Huawei here?15:18
smcginnisWith this short cycle, that's going to make things even faster.15:18
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smcginnise0ne: Most are China time, unfortunately.15:19
jungleboyjsmcginnis: That is changing though.  :-)15:19
smcginnisjungleboyj: Oh is it now?15:19
smcginnis:)15:19
e0nesmcginnis: thanks! I'll try to catch somebody on Monday15:20
smcginnise0ne: I know a few read through the IRC logs, so might be worth stating it here in case they can respond off hours.15:21
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Seems like Huawei and Lenovo are in an OpenStack arms race.  :-)15:21
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smcginnisjungleboyj: I did see from the bugsmash that Huawei is definitely investing.15:22
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smcginnisReally great involvement in China.15:22
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yep, that is the next area of growth for OS .15:23
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: Convert 'parallels' format name to 'ploop'  https://review.openstack.org/35767915:41
eantyshevjgriffith: only commit message changed ^^^15:41
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* smcginnis just used the last of his espresso beans from Barcelona :(15:46
e0nesmcginnis: :(15:51
e0nesmcginnis: by the way, where did you buy it in Barcelona?15:52
e0nesmcginnis: my favorite one is Nomad coffee15:52
smcginnise0ne: I can't even remember the name now. It was somewhere in the gothic quarter.15:54
smcginnise0ne: I had lot's of good coffee there. :)15:54
e0nesmcginnis: I bought 1kg coffee beans in Barcelona this time15:54
smcginnise0ne: Me too!15:55
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e0ne:)15:55
ildikovsmcginnis: I might have a trip to Barcelona after the PTG so if you can figure out which is the one, I'll try to get you some15:56
smcginnisildikov: Hmm, I might have to take you up on that. ;)15:56
ildikovsmcginnis: no promises at this point15:56
smcginnisI never made it to this one, but I heard it's good: https://www.yelp.com/biz/satans-coffee-corner-barcelona15:56
smcginnisildikov: If I don't have coffee at my door two weeks after the PTG I'm going to have to track you down.15:57
smcginnisHah!15:57
ildikovsmcginnis: the name is promising :D15:57
ildikovsmcginnis: lol15:57
smcginnisildikov: Are you going to the next operators midcycle? Should be good coffee there.15:57
xyangdulek: hi15:58
ildikovsmcginnis: I always know that trying to help people is a dangerous business ;)15:58
smcginnishehe15:58
ildikovs/know/knew/15:58
ildikovsmcginnis: MWC alias Mobile World Congress is the one in mind, but now that you say I remember the operators' meet up vote on where they want it too16:00
ildikovsmcginnis: plans at this point, but I'll ping you if anything gets certain16:00
smcginnisildikov: Cool16:01
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e0nesmcginnis, ildikov: http://www.perfectdailygrind.com/2016/01/5-specialty-coffee-shops-to-visit-in-barcelona/16:05
ildikove0ne: nice!16:06
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e0nesmcginnis, ildikov: I was in slowmo, nomad and onna - all of them are great16:06
smcginnise0ne: Ooo, nice. Guess I'll have to go back.16:06
smcginnisCoffee tour16:06
ildikovsmcginnis: doesn't Cinder need a mid cycle in Barcelona?16:07
e0neI missed satans coffee, so I'm going to visit Barcelona once more16:07
ildikovsmcginnis: or some other important meet up :)16:07
e0neildikov, smcginnis: +116:07
ildikove0ne: I had random walking tours after the Summit, but now with this list I'll be more focused next time16:08
e0neildikov: I alway prepare a list of coffee shops to visit16:08
ildikove0ne: you should blog about them16:09
e0neildikov: yea, I'm thinking about it...16:09
ildikove0ne: would be great info for other maniacs like smcginnis and myself :)16:09
smcginnisHey, there's one for the PTG: http://www.perfectdailygrind.com/2016/04/5-atlanta-specialty-coffee-shops-visit-scaa-2016/16:09
e0nethingee: ^^16:09
xyangdulek, e0ne: please see my reply here.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350350/  Let me know what you think16:10
e0nemcginnis: thanks!16:10
ildikovsmcginnis: cool, thanks!16:10
smcginnisBeerspresso. Sounds like the perfect Cinder drink.16:11
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ildikovLOL :)16:11
xyang@smcginnis: so does it make you sleepy or awake?16:11
Swansonsmcginnis, that sounds more like a neutron team drink. (Would explain some things.)16:12
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e0nexyang: I've added your patch to my list16:12
xyange0ne: thanks.16:13
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xyange0ne: this is the cg migration one you already looked.  dulek has some comments about db cleanup16:13
smcginnisxyang: Both at the same time. :D16:14
e0nexyang: I see. I just don't want to review such important things late on Friday night16:14
xyang@smcginnis: :)16:14
xyange0ne: no problem:)  continue the beer coffee discussion16:14
e0nexyang: :)16:14
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ildikovjgriffith: BTW, did you have a chance to check dulek's attempt to fix joinedload for your 'Add get_all capability ...' patch?16:15
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e0nehemna: hi Walter. do you have few minutes to discuss attach/detach issue with tgt?16:34
hemnasure16:34
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e0nehemna: the problem is: when I call initialize_connection/terminate too fast, tgt can't create a target:(16:35
e0nehemna: here is bug with some logs https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/165027716:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1650277 in Cinder "Error during creation iscsi target" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Michael Dovgal (mdovgal)16:35
e0nehemna: it's reproduces all times with tempest but everything works good via CLI16:37
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hemnais it a timing issue?16:37
hemnalooks like tgt can't see the volume yet?16:37
e0nehemna: yes, adding time.sleep helps16:38
e0nebut I'm not sure that even time.sleep(1) is a good solution for tests16:38
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hemnareading through the code16:40
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hemnae0ne, where is this in the logs?  https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/targets/tgt.py#L21316:42
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e0nehemna: you can find it in the attached cinder_services_logs.tar.gz. Here is paste with 'cinder_services_logs.tar.gz' record: http://paste.openstack.org/show/592660/16:44
hemnaok16:44
hemnahuh, yup it doesn't exist16:45
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e0neyes, but why?16:48
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hemnaI think there is a race16:49
hemnaIt looks like simultaneous calls for detach and attach were made16:49
hemnafor the same volume16:49
hemnathe create target worked16:49
hemnathen the delete was called16:49
hemnabefore the call to look for the target was executed16:49
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SwansonWhen I try to run tox on one of my systems it is clearly pulling an old version of pip which kills environment creation. What do I need to upgrade to get the correct version? py27 env16:50
SwansonIf anyone has any ideas.16:51
* hemna looks at the full logs16:51
hemnapip install -U pip16:51
hemna?16:51
Swansonhemna, you'd think that. But I've done that. The version of pip in the tox env is a full 3 major version older than the current one.16:52
hemnahumm16:53
hemnapip mirror out of date?16:53
hemnarm -rf .tox16:53
hemnaand try again ?16:53
Swansonpip mirror! That's a possibility!16:53
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Swansonit was setup by smcginnis and can't be trusted...16:53
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Swansonomg. I'd updated everything but tox itself. End of year vacation cannot come soon enough.16:55
Swansonhemna, thanks for the help. Turns out I'm just stupid.16:56
hemnasweet.   I'm frequently stupid.  it comes and goes.16:57
hemnausually every time I think.16:57
e0nehemna: thanks for the help16:58
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e0nehemna: I'll try to figure out how to fix it16:59
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hemnaI'm trying to trace it looking at the logs16:59
hemnafwiw, the processutils debug output is almost useless17:01
hemnait would be nice if it showed who called it and where, instead of just saying it was called from processutils17:01
hemnae0ne, one thing you could do is put a wait/retry around the tgt-admin --show17:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Support A/A on Scheduler operations  https://review.openstack.org/34422617:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Cosmetic changes to scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/34604117:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Rolling upgrade procedure documentation  https://review.openstack.org/39339517:04
hemnae0ne, if you look at https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/targets/tgt.py#L225-L22917:05
hemnathere are other cases where we retry17:05
hemnaThe update call creates the target17:05
hemnaso I'd just do a retry waiting for it to show up17:06
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hemnaif sleep helps, then doing a retry on the self._get_target(iqn)17:06
hemnahttps://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/targets/tgt.py#L21617:07
hemnathat17:07
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - rename and restructure driver  https://review.openstack.org/41192217:18
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openstackgerritTom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Dell SC: Retype fixes  https://review.openstack.org/39797017:24
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - rename and restructure driver  https://review.openstack.org/41192217:44
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nikeshm_hi any update on the issue of Jenkins Release note failure for backporting patches to newton17:48
smcginnisnikeshm_: That should be resolved. A new release of reno should have fixed that.17:50
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nikeshm_smcginnis:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409049 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410365  shall i do any recheck now17:52
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openstackgerritRaunak Kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Add Rest API Support for Nimble Storage  https://review.openstack.org/40932118:47
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark CloudByte volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41195819:00
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openstackgerritAndrei Perepiolkin proposed openstack/cinder: Add Open-E driver for JovianDSS storage with iSCSI support.  https://review.openstack.org/39996719:07
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark DotHill volume drivers as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41195919:08
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Huawei volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196119:11
Swansonsmcginnis, Scrooge McGinnis19:14
hemnawah wah wah19:14
smcginnisMerry Christmas. Bah humbug.19:14
smcginnisUnfortunately I'm just getting started.19:14
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* smcginnis sees a lot of copying and pasting in his future19:15
hemnadamn19:15
hemnawell, at least we have this mechanism now19:15
smcginnishemna: And I have the start of an automated report so we can get this info at will.19:15
hemnaexcellent19:16
smcginnisThat CI_WIKI_NAME stuff is coming in handy. ;)19:16
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SwansonRun it once a week and post it to the list with a "countdown til boot" column in it.19:16
hemnagood, it's about time that stuffs got used.19:17
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hemnait was a pita to do19:17
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Hitachi HNAS volume drivers as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196319:21
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark DotHill volume drivers as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196619:27
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark HPE XP volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196719:30
smcginnishemna: ^19:30
hemnaboom!19:31
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hemnayah the guy at HPE never really cared after he got it in Cinder in the first place.19:32
smcginnishemna: I think he actually did tell me at one point that he expected it to go away.19:32
hemnadoesn't surprise me.19:32
hemnaHPE is going away....19:32
smcginnis:)19:33
smcginnisShrinking every day it seems.19:33
smcginnisNice, the Lenovo one is a freebie.19:33
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Hitachi VSP volume drivers as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196619:35
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Nexenta Edge volume drivers as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196919:40
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Quobyte volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41197119:45
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* hemna shoots gerrit19:51
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hemnascrolling down in a diff.....and then the scroll resets to the top of the file while you scroll down.19:52
hemnaDIE DIE DIE19:52
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Synology volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41197319:54
smcginnishemna: So you have it set to Slow mode?19:54
smcginnishemna: It makes it better, though it doesn't completely fix it.19:55
hemnaF if I know19:55
hemnascrolling just jumps all over the place19:55
hemnaand clicking on a comment does the same thing19:55
smcginnisClick on the cog in the top right of a diff view, set Render to Slow.19:55
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hemnaclick on the yellow box that contains the comment makes the file scroll to the bottom instantly.19:55
smcginnisPOS19:55
hemnayah it's a nightmare19:56
hemnathe render didn't fix the comment box issue19:56
hemnatrying to scroll....19:56
smcginnisWell, there's the standard response that I'm always give of - have you checked out gerrty? :)19:56
hemnanope19:56
smcginniss/give of/given/19:56
smcginnisThis copy/paste stuff is killing my brain.19:57
hemnais that the command line client thingy?19:57
smcginnisYep19:57
smcginnisNever got it to work, but some people swear by it.19:57
hemnaI think I looked at it a while back19:57
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hemnacouldn't use it either19:57
smcginnisThat Rview android looks promising for a tablet.19:58
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Tintri volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41197520:01
smcginnisFinally done. Now to go back and fix all the mistakes I made.20:01
* hemna tries firefox20:01
smcginnisHav you tried turning it off and back on again?20:01
smcginnis:P20:01
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hemnadamnit20:02
hemnanope20:02
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hemnaFF is just as bad20:02
hemnahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/404958/17/cinder/volume/drivers/ibm/ibm_storage/xiv_proxy.py20:02
hemnascroll down to the first 1/3 of that file20:03
hemnaand try clicking on one of those yellow comment blocks20:03
hemnait instantly scrolls down for me20:03
hemnafoom!20:03
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark CloudByte volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41195820:03
hemna  /topic Cinder, also known as the gerrit UI hate society.20:04
smcginnishemna: Clicking Reply?20:04
hemnaI don't even get that far20:04
hemnayou have to click the yellow box to get the buttons to show up20:04
hemnathat first click to do that makes it scroll down 50% of the page20:04
smcginnishemna: Oh, yep. I'm getting that on my first comment in there.20:05
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hemnaok good it's not just me20:05
hemnathat is maddening.20:05
smcginnisHave you tried the Lotus Notes browser? :D20:05
hemnalol20:05
hemnafriggin lynx is next.....20:05
smcginnisLove lynx!20:06
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mtaninosmcginnis: hello, Which wiki page are you reffering?20:14
mtaninoAh, may be this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems20:15
smcginnismtanino: Yep, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Hitachi_HNAS_CI20:15
smcginnismtanino: It was listed wrong there. I caught a few like that now.20:16
mtaninosmcginnis: got it. thanks.20:16
smcginnismtanino: This will hopefully be automated in the near-ish future, so it will be important that those are kept up to date.20:16
smcginnisKind of the reason for having the hard coded wiki name in the source tree pointing to the wiki rather than having the actual CI name in the code.20:16
smcginnisAs it's easier to update the wiki.20:16
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mtaninosmcginnis: Yes, totally agree on it. Fixing by hand isn't good idea...20:17
smcginnismtanino: Thanks for pointing that out. Easy fix.20:17
mtaninosmcginnis: sure :)20:18
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Huawei volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196120:18
smcginnisDarn tabs.20:18
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark HPE XP volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196720:22
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark Quobyte volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41197120:24
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smcginnisOK, cleaned up. Now the fun part to send them out to the mailing list.20:25
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ildikovsmcginnis: nice spams on the ML :)20:45
smcginnisildikov: ;)20:46
smcginnisildikov: It was too quiet, needed to spice things up.20:47
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ildikovsmcginnis: just what you need for a Friday afternoon :)20:48
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mtaninoquiet Friday. freezing outside21:09
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add get_all capability to volume_attachments  https://review.openstack.org/38514321:25
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jgriffith@cinder-cores. we should not be merging the custom adds to exception.py https://goo.gl/cwyucR21:36
jgriffiththere's no value in that, all of those should go away and just translate to backend-api, backend-device or some other generalized exception21:36
xyangjgriffith: what do yo mean?  no driver exceptions?21:37
jgriffithxyang correct, I thought we all agreed on that a long time ago but I'm probably wrong (I'm probably the only one who agreed) :)21:37
jgriffithxyang it's silly21:38
xyangjgriffith: I definitely are not aware of that agreement:)21:38
jgriffiththere's zero value, and it makes things super difficult if you ever want to do any sort of exception handling... like we do in taskflow for example21:38
eharneyi tend to agree, every driver adds the same kinds of exceptions and they don't really do anything useful21:38
jgriffiththey're not only useless.. they're a complete pain in the ass21:38
eharneythey should at least all inherit from VolumeDriverException/VolumeBackendAPIException, but it's still needless complexity21:38
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jgriffitheharney yeah, and when we added those two that was what we said21:39
jgriffitheharney if you want a custom, inherit in your own driver file from one of those21:39
jgriffitheharney granted I'm just as bad for never going back and fixing mine :)21:39
jgriffithbut now that I think of it I'll probably do that today21:39
xyangjgriffith: so if an extended exception does not do anything special, it should not be added at all.  Just use the existing ones from cinder exception?21:40
jgriffithxyang so the point is there's no reason to have the custom exceptions21:41
jgriffiththere's no handler for them, so just use "VolumeDriver" or "VolumeBackend"21:41
jgriffithxyang and if you really want to be fancy and have a bunch of exception types...21:41
jgriffithThat's cool, but dump them in your driver file and inherrit from those base exception classes21:42
jgriffithxyang that way any caller up the stack like the manager, API, taskflow or whomever can actually use the exception for something21:43
xyangjgriffith: ok, I'll ask you next time when I see a new exception if I am not sure whether it is useful or not21:43
jgriffithas it stands now they're completely worthless21:43
jgriffithxyang sure21:43
jgriffithxyang I can try and describe it better in a write up or something if it helps21:43
hemnajgriffith, sounds good to me.21:43
xyangjgriffith: some write up will be great21:43
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jgriffithxyang damn... I was afraid you'd say that :)21:44
xyang:)21:44
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mark HPE XP volume driver as unsupported  https://review.openstack.org/41196721:51
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smcginnisjgriffith: I've pushed back on some of those. The only value I see is if they want to catch their own generated exceptions separately from common ones, but that's probably not common.21:55
smcginnisjgriffith: Only reason I've been ok in the common exceptions file is that seemed to be the convention we've followed.21:55
jgriffithsmcginnis yeah, in which case the inherritance model works really well :)21:55
smcginnisjgriffith: But I'd rather see them with the driver.21:55
jgriffithfunny thing about OOO, we all use it but don't know how or why :)21:55
smcginnisjgriffith: Especially in light of needing to remove some drivers. Makes it a lot cleaner. ;)21:56
jgriffith@smcginnis yeah, it's an old habbit21:56
jgriffith@smcginnis ildikov on another note, I give up on rebasing against dependent patches21:56
jgriffithit never goes well for me ;)21:56
jgriffithI'll just wait for that get_all_attachments to merge at this point :)21:57
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ildikovjgriffith: then I'll not ask what went wrong this time... :)21:58
jgriffithildikov haha21:58
jgriffithildikov I just seem to get honked up21:58
smcginnisjgriffith: Did ya have to use \21:59
smcginnis:/21:59
jgriffithildikov version bumps all over the place screw some things up badly... but also this last go around my changes didn't actually merge21:59
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jgriffithbahhhh21:59
smcginnisGuess there's probably reason to with that part of the code. Or at least existing use of it.22:00
smcginnisJust we've been trying to enforce not.22:00
jgriffith@smcginnis depends on which one you're looking at specifically22:00
jgriffithIIWU2ME I'd just always use them instead of making the stupid formatting with parens ugliness; but I think I've ceased doing it when not necessary22:01
ildikovjgriffith: ok, remember all the other things from last time, that's a fairly long enough list for me for sure22:01
jgriffithildikov most of them were issues in the cinder-manage part, so I just deleted it :)22:01
jgriffith@smcginnis I'm not seeing where i introduced the \22:03
ildikovjgriffith: right after my own heart :)22:03
smcginnisjgriffith: Closed it now. Doesn't matter.22:03
openstackgerritRaunak Kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Add Rest API Support for Nimble Storage  https://review.openstack.org/40932122:03
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xyangpatrickeast: around?22:04
smcginnisI've run into some issues with code parsing when I tried to do something with hacking with those. And I think I read it can cause some string problems.22:04
smcginnisToo late on a Friday for me to really care at this point. :)22:04
smcginnisSpeaking of too late on a Friday....22:04
* smcginnis looks at ildikov 22:04
ildikovsmcginnis: define me what falls under 'too late' :)22:05
smcginnisildikov: :)22:06
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ildikovsmcginnis: and my comments didn't really fall under work either... :)22:07
SwansonCan we all agree that using \'s is fine? 4#(# parens.22:07
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jgriffithSwanson I know right!22:13
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Show provider_id for admin  https://review.openstack.org/40339122:27
Swansonjgriffith, parens are the syntax of the Devil.22:27
patrickeastxyang: hey, what's up?22:33
xyangpatrickeast: hi, I want to talk to you about generic volume groups with CG capability22:34
xyangpatrickeast: a couple of drivers have got patches for that.  I initially thought driver should check group_specs to make sure consistent_group_snapshot_enable is True22:35
xyangpatrickeast: can you see my message?22:35
xyangpatrickeast: so if that is True, driver will create a CG; otherwise driver won't create CG22:36
xyangpatrickeast: but I'm getting feedback that if driver can create CG anyway, they want to make that the default22:37
xyangpatrickeast: are you still there?22:37
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patrickeastxyang: yea, sorry got side tracked, but yea I was under the same impression you were that it was just based on the group type22:39
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patrickeastxyang: if drivers wan to just make all groups cgs they can though, it's kinda up to them22:39
xyangpatrickeast: basically they argued that since they can create a CG anyway, why create one snapshot any time and loop around, it is not efficient22:39
xyangpatrickeast: ok22:40
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patrickeastxyang: yep, and I think that's totally valid, I might do the same for the pure drivers22:40
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xyangpatrickeast: great22:40
xyangpatrickeast: it does seem to be a waste to loop around and create individual ones if they can create CG anyway22:41
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xyangpatrickeast: can you take a look of this generic volume groups dev doc patch when you get a chance?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393570/22:44
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patrickeastxyang: yep, will do22:45
xyangpatrickeast: thanks22:45
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