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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41725700:58
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41725701:24
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41725701:46
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openstackgerritTina Tang proposed openstack/cinder: Add CG capability to generic groups in VNX driver  https://review.openstack.org/41392702:07
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openstackgerritGuy Kim proposed openstack/cinder: Add manage/unmanage to DISCO driver  https://review.openstack.org/41498502:26
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openstackgerritZhao Liqiang proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: the feature of 'journaling' of a volume lose when coping an image to it.  https://review.openstack.org/41726803:19
openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Move method to services api  https://review.openstack.org/41439903:22
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add new attachment APIS  https://review.openstack.org/41463203:24
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openstackgerritZhao Liqiang proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: the feature of 'journaling' of a volume lose when coping an image to it.  https://review.openstack.org/41727103:37
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openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/cinder: Support sort backup with name  https://review.openstack.org/41727203:39
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41725704:31
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41725704:34
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openstackgerritSzymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/41728204:36
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nikeshmhi05:44
nikeshmhow can we check that a volume is a part of a generic volume group05:44
nikeshmcinder --os-volume-api-version 3.13 group-show volume-group, cinder list, cinder show volume-id   not showing  relation05:45
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nikeshmhi please see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/165449206:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1654492 in Cinder "Generic Volume group information is missing for cinder volume" [Undecided,New]06:07
nikeshmany one face the issue06:07
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openstackgerritGaurang Tapase proposed openstack/cinder: GPFS: Enhance GPFS driver to work in container  https://review.openstack.org/41137706:17
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openstackgerritxiaoqin proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: do the correct update after failover  https://review.openstack.org/29257009:00
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nikeshme0ne: hi09:05
nikeshmhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/165449209:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1654492 in Cinder "Generic Volume group information is missing for cinder volume" [Undecided,New]09:05
e0nenikeshm: hi09:05
nikeshmis there any way to know the group of a volume09:05
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nikeshmmight be the bug is invalid09:06
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nikeshmtommylikehu: thanks09:29
nikeshmfor assigning it to yurself09:29
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tommylikehunikeshm :)09:35
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Implement volume replication for VMAX  https://review.openstack.org/40907910:19
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - storage group cleanup on error  https://review.openstack.org/41132910:28
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pjm6hello11:15
pjm6anyone here worked with dell equallogic driver?11:15
pjm6I wanted to know if its possible to use that driver and use shared storage nova11:15
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e0nepjm6: try to ask smcginnis11:27
pjm6e0ne, thanks :)11:27
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Check if volume node has enough space for image operations  https://review.openstack.org/41586811:28
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - rename and restructure driver  https://review.openstack.org/41192212:05
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Consistency Group automerge fix.  https://review.openstack.org/40614712:24
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Generic Volume Group feature  https://review.openstack.org/40817612:38
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Implement volume replication for VMAX  https://review.openstack.org/40907912:44
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smcginnispjm6: Yes, the Equallogic driver is supported as a Cinder driver.13:01
smcginnispjm6: Not really sure I get what you mean by "shared storage nova" though.13:01
pjm6smcginnis, my objective is to all VMs boot from a volume13:04
pjm6in order to do live migrate and boot VMs in case of a failure13:04
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smcginnispjm6: Yes, you can boot instances from EQL volumes using the Cinder eql driver.13:05
pjm6smcginnis, tell me something, when I create a new volume, in the Dell Equallogic storage, it will create a new volume?13:05
pjm6or inside a volume by me choice there are multiple volumes?13:06
pjm6I'm asking this because the EQL have an low limit of volumes IIRC13:06
smcginnispjm6: It will create a volume on the array for each Cinder volume.13:06
pjm6So, for each cinder volume is a new volume in the storage?13:07
smcginnispjm6: Correct13:07
pjm6smcginnis, that's not bad because the EQL have a low limit of physical volumes?13:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add manage/unmanage to DISCO driver  https://review.openstack.org/41498513:10
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pjm6i'm seeing at maximum 1024 volumes13:10
pjm6is not possible to "group" a volume per project?13:10
smcginnispjm6: Yeah, you'll be limited to whatever max number of volumes the array is able to provide.13:11
smcginnispjm6: The only way to "group" them I guess would be to use something like the NFS driver and create an NFS share on another server that is backed by a volume from the array.13:11
pjm6smcginnis, btw: do you use Dell EqualLogic storage to share nova instances?13:12
pjm6smcginnis, a server with NFS server with an iSCSI connection to DELL array, right?13:12
pjm6brb13:12
smcginnispjm6: correct13:12
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pjm6smcginnis, did you ever setup an system like that?14:25
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openstackgerritVinita Deshpande proposed openstack/cinder: CoprHD: Handle deletion of volumes in error state  https://review.openstack.org/41739714:27
e0nesmcginnis: hi Sean14:28
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smcginnise0ne: Hey!14:28
e0nesmcginnis: could you please remind me what did we decide to do with versioning of /api/contrib stuff?14:28
e0nesmcginnis: e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417272/114:29
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smcginnise0ne: Last time we all discussed it, I thought we had decided no more contrib. All new stuff would get added as microversioned APIs.14:29
smcginnise0ne: Been a while though, so if someone else has a better memory than me, maybe they'll speak up. :)14:30
e0nesmcginnis: yea, it sounds reasonable to me14:30
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gordchi folks,working on against cinder api. i'm wondering whether v2 api is deprecated? i see v2 v3 services listed in my devstack14:31
e0nesmcginnis: I want to find some notes to reffer14:31
e0negordc: yes, it's deprecated14:31
smcginnise0ne: Hopefully we captured that in the midcycle or summit etherpads. I'll see if I can find anything.14:31
e0negordc: but deprecated != not supported14:31
smcginnise0ne: We really should clearly document that somewhere.14:31
smcginnisgordc: v3 is basically exactly the same as v2, with the addition of microversion API support.14:32
smcginnisgordc: So if you don't specify a microversion, it should behave and work exactly the same way.14:32
e0nesmcginnis: +114:32
gordccool cool. so if i'm building a pollster for ceilometer (ocata), i should just target v3.14:33
gordcprobably no point building support in for v214:33
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - storage group cleanup on error  https://review.openstack.org/41132914:33
e0nesmcginnis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cinder-midcycle-day1 - there is no final decision14:34
smcginnise0ne: Hmm. I remember we brought it up at a weekly meeting at one point. Maybe we should do that one more time and actually capture and document the decision.14:35
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openstackgerritVinita Deshpande proposed openstack/cinder: CoprHD: Handle create volume from CG snap error  https://review.openstack.org/41739914:38
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - rename and restructure driver  https://review.openstack.org/41192214:39
scottdaI'm pretty sure we've been pushing people to Not add to contrib.14:40
scottdae0ne: smcginnis ^^14:40
smcginnisscottda: Yeah, that's my recollection.14:40
scottdaThen we had a volunteer to move everything from contrib. Then we discussed re-architecting things to eliminate different directories for each version. Then we drank Cava and forgot everything....14:42
scottdaThat's my recollection.14:42
smcginnisscottda: Sounds legit.14:43
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e0nesmcginnis, scottda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/move-cinder-extensions-to-core14:46
e0nesmcginnis, scottda: I'm trying to find meeting desscussion about it14:48
scottdasmcginnis: e0ne Yeah, it always seems we're missing a place to go for all these decisions that are made...or am I missing something?14:54
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scottdaWhen I first got involved, I grew tired of hearing "We discussed this in Hong Kong, and decided blah blah blah"14:54
scottdaBut here we still are, relying on our faulty recollections...14:55
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smcginnisscottda: Yep14:56
bswartzscottda: my recollections are never faulty ;-p14:57
scottdaBut what would we do if you won the lottery and disappeared, bswartz ?14:58
bswartzoh if I won the lottery I'd quit my job and spend all day hanging out in #openstack-cinder14:58
bswartzI assume that's what any of us would do14:59
smcginnis:)14:59
bswartzscottda: it's a fair point that it's hard to find an official record of decisions made15:00
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bswartzIRC meetings and ML threads are archived forever, and thus good official records (although hard to search) however too much ends up getting written down on etherpads which are worthless as a record keeping system15:01
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scottdaWell, in some orgs (like the Pool Board I'm on, Cub Scouts, etc) we have a Secretary...15:03
scottdaThe main problem is that it sounds like you're the person typing up reports for the Boss.15:04
scottdaBut having some role that is responsible for documenting stuff might be the solution.15:04
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scottdaAnd keeping it somewhere. Repo. Wiki.15:05
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bswartzwe could call them the "Secretary General" to make the role sound more attractive15:05
scottdaooooo...I like it.15:05
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bswartzscottda: fwiw we do typically have a person acting as secretary in any of the midcycles/summits -- notes do get taken15:07
bswartzthe problem IMO is that they're taken on an etherpad so that everyone can see what's being written and other's can edit or add information15:08
bswartzthen those etherpads end up fading into the ether over time and nobody can find them years later15:08
scottdaYeah, I get that. But we need some post-processing to gather the decisions and salient points and put them somewhere.15:08
scottdaIt'd be great for someone new to the project to be able to go somewhere searchable and see what's already been discussed.15:09
bswartzsadly we rarely make clear decisions -- oftentimes we reach consensus, but the few people who don't agree feel free to relitigate their points of view over and over at later meetings15:10
smcginnisI've tried to summaries the etherpad activity in recap emails to the ML after midcycles and summits, but that doesn't always get done and doesn't always capture all the details.15:10
smcginnisscottda: Sounds like we need a wiki page with just bullet items of decisions.15:11
bswartzsmcginnis: or make more use of the #agreed bot command during meetings15:11
scottdasmcginnis: The recaps are good...maybe a starting point. And the wiki could capture some of that...15:11
smcginnisbswartz: +1 true15:11
scottdasmcginnis: bswartz I put something on the ATL agenda, but it might be overkill to discuss at the PTG15:12
bswartzscottda: the PTG will be the biggest event we have going forward -- I think the foundation has effectively killed midcycles15:12
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smcginnisKilled midcycles and diminished summits. Still looks like a net loss from my perspective.15:13
scottdabswartz: Yeah. Although our midcycles were self-organized, so noone can actually "kill" them.15:13
smcginnisBut trying to be open minded about it.15:13
bswartzI'm trying to be open minded too15:13
smcginnisRight, we could still do a midcycle. Gets harder to justify to the folks holding the wallet though.15:14
bswartzI just don't see how we can organize a midcycle when the conference falls right in the middle of the release15:14
scottdaYeah, my New Year's Resolution is to be more positive. And stay away from News& Media. Both are related.15:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis: After reading Tom's Blog on it I am feeling a little bummed.15:14
scottdajungleboyj: link?15:14
smcginnisscottda: Not a bad strategy.15:14
jungleboyjI will try to be open minded too though.15:14
smcginnisjungleboyj: The superuser one?15:14
jungleboyjThe one I retweeted.15:15
jungleboyjHold on.15:15
smcginnisThis? http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/15:15
jungleboyjhttps://t.co/M0qLqLhNpK15:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yeah, I think that is it.15:15
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Implement volume replication for VMAX  https://review.openstack.org/40907915:21
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - rename and restructure driver  https://review.openstack.org/41192215:27
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ildikovjungleboyj: bummed in general or in the context of the above mentioned mid-cycles?15:35
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/os-brick: WIP Handle scsi_id failures when disconnecting iSCSI multipath volumes  https://review.openstack.org/41742515:40
jungleboyjildikov: Bummed that the format of the summits is less clear right now.  Also bummed that we don't have our midcycles like we used to.  They were awesome.15:41
openstackgerritSamantha Blanco proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes hpelefthandclient AttributeError  https://review.openstack.org/39389415:43
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ildikovjungleboyj: yeah, we are trying to explore how to make the changes which means moving parts in the picture15:46
hemnamornin15:46
hemnathat blog is a bit depressing for openstack devs15:46
jungleboyjildikov: So we need to be patient, huh?15:46
ildikovjungleboyj: I think we need to think about how to get the most out of the new format15:47
jungleboyjhemna: Ok, so it wasn't just me.15:47
hemnathe forum looks nearly useless for us15:47
jungleboyjhemna: That was my concern as well.15:47
jungleboyjWhich means we end up cutting our interacts f2f in half.15:47
jungleboyjThat is my concern.15:47
hemnayup15:47
hemnamaybe we skip the forum entirely as a team and do a mid cycle ?15:48
jungleboyjBut I Wanted to Go to Sydney (said in a whining voice)15:48
ildikovjungleboyj: summits were chaotic in the old format too, if you consider the cross-project parts and operators parts and other smaller and bigger bits15:48
smcginnisMidcycle in Sydney. We'll just get our own place. :D15:48
scottdaI think the chaos was part of how Devs and Ops met and networked.15:49
hemnaildikov, chaos was fine, at least we had a reason to go15:49
scottdaspontaneous, bottoms-up organization looks like chaos to tops-down, command-and -control types...15:49
ildikovsmcginnis: just find a corner in the Forum venue and call it mid-cycle gathering area :)15:50
smcginnisildikov: That's probably what we'll do. If enough devs can actually attend.15:50
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ildikovhemna: I think meeting operators and have a bit more room for feedback type of discussions shouldn't be a bad change and should still be related to devs15:51
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ildikovhemna: so I hope the reason to go will not disappear15:53
hemnaI don't think many devs will show up15:53
hemnathere just isn't a compelling reason to go now, not enough to justify travel for it.15:53
scottdaIt is hard to get funded to go to anything. That's the problem...15:53
hemnaeven that blog sorta mentions justifications being focused on the PTG, not the forum.15:53
smcginnisSomewhat compelling for the devs themselves, but not compelling for the folks that have to give approval for them to go.15:54
hemnaso, I'm guessing the forum will be a noop for most15:54
ildikovdo you already have the management feedback that you're cleared for the PTG but not for the Forum?15:54
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* hemna is still waiting for PTG approval15:54
* scottda is still waiting for PTG as well...15:54
ildikovgot it :(15:55
hemnaso considering the difficulty of the PTG travel approval......15:55
ildikovI wonder how much harder to get the PTG approval then the midcycle approval was?15:55
smcginnisildikov: I know there were some who paid their own way under the old format because their management wouldn't approve it. The change makes it even less likely that they will get the approval.15:55
hemnayup15:56
hemnathis was the argument I made to johnathan back at vancouver.15:56
scottdaYeah, I paid my way to Austin, but I cannot justify to myself doing that again.15:56
smcginnisildikov: And scottda was working on a shipping commercial product based on OpenStack at the time...15:57
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ildikovsmcginnis: yeah, I remember a few Cinder people attending on their own budget, I know it's not getting any easier with the changes15:58
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jungleboyjAt the moment I am paying my way to the PTG.  Assuming Lenovo will fix that though.  *fingers crossed*16:01
ildikovsmcginnis: at least for the Forums, I hope PTG will not be that bad by the end as in that case we are in trouble in general regardless of the changes, IMHO16:01
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smcginnisildikov: Yeah, I'm really hoping at least the PTG works out.16:02
ildikovI think the travel support program is still open, but I would need to double check the dates to be sure16:02
jungleboyjI hope we can get enough people to the forum in Boston to get good feedback to the foundation so we can make future forums useful.16:02
hemnaildikov, but the travel support program has different criteria than project core contributors getting approval.16:03
ildikovjungleboyj: I hope so too, I think that's where positivity starts to see what we have and revisit and improve it constantly16:03
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jungleboyjildikov: Yeah, I don't know what else we can do.16:09
ildikovhemna: I would say I hope we will not need it for core contributors to be able to come to a fully technical event16:10
jungleboyjOur midcycles were very productive and we don't want to lose that.  I think if the PTG is productive for us that will help with the positivity.16:10
hemnaildikov, I tried to use it and got denied for BCN16:10
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jungleboyjThen we can work with you to tackle the questions around the Forum, but we will have to get people there to make that happen.16:10
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ildikovhemna: I'm not sure at the moment how it looks for the PTG regarding criteria TBH16:11
hemnaI'm concerned this will negatively effect the amount of devs contributing to openstack.16:12
hemnawe'll see16:12
ildikovhemna: but if many cores do not get travel approval that'll be an issue in general, but I hope that's not going to be the case16:13
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ildikovjungleboyj: I understand the possible lack of mid-cycles looks like a bad change right now, but it's on us really to make the PTG just as good and productive as the mid-cycles were so far16:15
ildikovhemna: I hope it won't16:16
smcginnisildikov: The problem isn't really making the PTG just as good.16:16
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hemnayah the problem is the loss of the face to face meetings that the developer conference provided.16:17
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hemnathe PTG will be fine, like a super mid-cycle.16:17
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smcginnisildikov: In the past we had the Summit (~3 days of face to face discussion time) and the midcycle (~3 days of face to face discussion time) so per cycle we would get around 6 days total of really good focused work being done.16:17
jungleboyjhemna: +116:17
smcginnisNow we may still get 3 days of good time at the PTG, but we are likely losing that time at the Summit/Forum.16:18
jungleboyjildikov: We now have it in writing that it is on you.  ;-)16:18
smcginnisSo we go from 6 days of productivity to 3.16:18
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ildikovwe shouldn't necessarily say the Forums will not be useful for technical discussions at all, it's still face to face time not in the same way as the old Summits though I get that16:20
ildikovjungleboyj: what is on me? :)16:22
jungleboyjildikov: Making the forms and PTG work.  ;-)16:23
scottdaildikov: And getting us all funding to go :)16:24
* jungleboyj tries to see ildikov s credit card number.16:24
scottdahonestly, we can make anything to work. I believe this is 100% about funding, and attitudes from our companies.16:24
smcginnisscottda: Agree16:25
jungleboyjscottda: ++16:25
ildikovjungleboyj: scottda: I will look into lottery options or robbing a bank; if I succeed I will let you know :)16:28
ildikovscottda: I agree with that statement and I hope the attitude will be positive starting with the upcoming PTG16:28
jungleboyjildikov: Sweet!  Let me know if you need help.  ;-)16:30
ildikovjungleboyj: and I will need all of you making those events work, I cannot do that all alone ;)16:30
ildikovjungleboyj: do you prefer lottery or bank robbing? :)16:31
hemnaif we can get approval to attend......16:32
scottdaildikov: talk to diabla_rojo. Mention "Operation Heist"16:36
ildikovscottda: ok, will do16:39
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nikeshmhi is this valid https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/165449217:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1654492 in Cinder "Generic Volume group information is missing for cinder volume" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to TommyLike (hu-husheng)17:00
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jungleboyjildikov: We may have to be ready for both options.  ;-)17:13
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ildikovjungleboyj: I'll keep in mind :)17:28
jungleboyjildikov: I will start buying PowerBall tickets.17:30
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ildikovjungleboyj: just don't blame me if you lose, karma is not my strongest skill :)17:32
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jungleboyjildikov: We will change that.17:35
ildikovjungleboyj: I think I'll need to wait with that until my next life :D17:36
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jungleboyj:-)  We shall see.17:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: [api-ref]Add api ref for "volume type encryption"  https://review.openstack.org/41532017:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/41595617:54
alkhodosHi everyone. Can someone from the core team take a look at this patch please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400328 Hanging there with one +2 from Dec 21.17:57
jgriffithalkhodos of 2015? or 2016?17:57
jgriffithalkhodos cuz if it's 2016 way too soon to worry about tit :)17:57
jgriffithalkhodos just kidding, I'll look at it now17:58
alkhodosjgriffith: 2016 :) I should wait until 2017 for this one?)17:58
jgriffith:)17:58
alkhodosjgriffith: thanks!17:58
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Skip CI link in list for infra supported drivers  https://review.openstack.org/41749119:55
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ildikovscottda: here is the error I saw locally on the gate too regarding the missing cinderv3 endpoint: http://logs.openstack.org/82/385682/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/0a4185b/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2017-01-05_19_30_30_35320:15
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ildikovscottda: nm, I've just found the comments on the patch20:20
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_alastor_If anyone has a moment, if they could look at this monstrosity I'd appreciate it :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412611/21:11
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openstackgerritMatt Smith (_alastor_) proposed openstack/cinder: Datera 2.3 driver update  https://review.openstack.org/41261121:26
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup limit view name processing  https://review.openstack.org/41751421:59
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add new attachment APIS  https://review.openstack.org/41463223:02
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vikshi it is regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1569554 . When I am submitting the patch for python-cinderclient, do I need to say "This is a follow up patch of <change_id>" in the git check-in comment or just upload the PA with a different change ID ?23:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1569554 in python-cinderclient "cinder snapshot listing does not work with metadata" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Vivek Agrawal (vivek-agrawal)23:10
vikshushhh23:10
viksnot PA..I meant PatchSet23:11
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openstackgerritVivek Agrawal proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to search snapshots based on metadata key, value pair This support has been added starting from microversion 3.22  https://review.openstack.org/41753723:30
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