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smcginnis | jgriffith: Huh, I wonder what else happens with the super call that makes that not work. Glad you're getting there though! | 00:46 |
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openstackgerrit | zhangbailin proposed openstack/cinder master: Replace http with https for doc links in cinder https://review.openstack.org/500245 | 00:53 |
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openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder master: [policy in code] Add support for volume, volume type resources https://review.openstack.org/511427 | 01:57 |
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openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder master: Move 'zoning_mode' back to DEFAULT section https://review.openstack.org/512208 | 02:44 |
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openstackgerrit | zhangbailin proposed openstack/cinder master: Replace http with https for doc links in cinder https://review.openstack.org/500245 | 03:15 |
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openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder master: Move 'zoning_mode' back to DEFAULT section https://review.openstack.org/512208 | 06:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Nam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/python-cinderclient master: Use generic user for both zuul v2 and v3 https://review.openstack.org/512502 | 06:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandru Muresan proposed openstack/cinder master: RemoteFS: revert snapshot support https://review.openstack.org/510016 | 06:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandru Muresan proposed openstack/cinder master: RemoteFS: revert snapshot support https://review.openstack.org/510016 | 06:52 |
openstackgerrit | Shunei Shiono proposed openstack/cinder master: NEC driver: Never use target info in migration_status https://review.openstack.org/511737 | 06:56 |
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openstackgerrit | junbo.li proposed openstack/cinder master: Remove duplicate build_sphinx command for api-ref https://review.openstack.org/512507 | 06:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Nam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/python-cinderclient master: Use generic user for both zuul v2 and v3 https://review.openstack.org/512502 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | zhufl proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix "import xx as xx" grammer https://review.openstack.org/512527 | 07:45 |
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swright | Hi! I need to move some large volumes between openstack deployments. Apart from backups to shared storage or saving as an image thru glance, is there any other way to port volumes across? | 08:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandru Muresan proposed openstack/cinder master: RemoteFS: revert snapshot support https://review.openstack.org/510016 | 08:55 |
openstackgerrit | Alexandru Muresan proposed openstack/cinder master: SMBFS: Enable reverting snapshots https://review.openstack.org/512545 | 08:55 |
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evrardjp | Everything seems working that's good :) | 09:12 |
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evrardjp | If I could get some extra core votes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512259/ that would allow us to release by including this in our sha bump (for first Q milestone) | 09:13 |
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evrardjp | thanks! | 09:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Multipath tempest scenarios https://review.openstack.org/469445 | 09:30 |
openstackgerrit | yixuan zhang proposed openstack/cinder master: Storwize : add backup snapshots support This patch adds backup snapshots support for Storwize/SVC driver. The change implements attach and detach snapshot: initialize_connection_snapshot terminate_connection_snapshot https://review.openstack.org/512562 | 09:40 |
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openstackgerrit | yixuan zhang proposed openstack/cinder master: Storwize : add backup snapshots support https://review.openstack.org/512562 | 09:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeremy Zhang proposed openstack/cinder master: Add v3 api-ref for updating specific extra specs for a volume type https://review.openstack.org/512571 | 09:54 |
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niraj_singh | i am new to openstack. Can anyone pls tell me the cinder APIs which uses novaclient. | 13:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Unana Okpoyo proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Deprecate backend xml configuration https://review.openstack.org/508843 | 13:34 |
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geguileo | jungleboyj: patrickeast could you have a quick look into this easy patch that fixes an iSCSI race condition issue? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507653/ | 13:44 |
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jungleboyj | geguileo: Hey. Sure, I can take a look. | 14:02 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: thanks, it is an easy one ;-) | 14:03 |
gouthamr | hey, anyone here can help me figure out how to set the log level for os_brick? trying to debug failures in the image copy from glance workflow in the cinder-volume service | 14:03 |
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jungleboyj | geguileo: Good to go. | 14:06 |
openstackgerrit | Unana Okpoyo proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Add async replication support https://review.openstack.org/509222 | 14:06 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: awesome!!! thanks!! | 14:07 |
jungleboyj | Thank you. | 14:07 |
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gouthamr | hmmm, afaics it is inheriting cinder's log level.. weird, that some iscsiadm stuff isn't getting logged on failure | 14:13 |
smcginnis | gouthamr: Yeah, should just run at whatever log level cinder is set to use. | 14:13 |
jungleboyj | gouthamr: I thought that it used the same log level as what was set for Cinder or Nova. | 14:13 |
jungleboyj | :-) Jinkx | 14:13 |
smcginnis | gouthamr: You could explicitly raise the log level of os-brick with a setLevel call for debugging, but shouldn't be necessary. | 14:14 |
openstackgerrit | Unana Okpoyo proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Enable CHAP authentication for vmax backend https://review.openstack.org/510614 | 14:14 |
gouthamr | smcginnis jungleboyj: :) iscsiadm fails and the reason is swallowed, it might be intentional to better format the error message.. | 14:14 |
gouthamr | smcginnis: oh, i'll try that.... thank you | 14:15 |
openstackgerrit | Unana Okpoyo proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Cannot extend volumes in a replication relationship https://review.openstack.org/511812 | 14:15 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Make stringify header work under python2. https://review.openstack.org/512259 | 14:21 |
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tommylikehu | jungleboyj: one more policy patch:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510722/, thanks! | 14:23 |
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jungleboyj | tommylikehu: You are a machine! | 14:26 |
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jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Approved. Thanks for all the work there. | 14:32 |
tommylikehu | jungleboyj: Thanks, and the rest are on their ways :) | 14:34 |
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jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Sounds good. I know there is the large Volume patch that I still need to look through. | 14:42 |
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tommylikehu | jungleboyj: yes, plus a documentation one :) | 14:42 |
jungleboyj | Oh, where is that one? | 14:43 |
jungleboyj | tommylikehu: ^ | 14:44 |
tommylikehu | jungleboyj: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512187/ this one, but I need to fix the zuul failure at first :) | 14:44 |
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ericyoung | if any core developers are bored... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511921/ needs another + and some workflow | 14:47 |
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jungleboyj | tommylikehu: I added some thoughts in the doc patch while you are looking at the other issue. | 14:50 |
jungleboyj | ericyoung: :-) Ooops, already been there. What is being bored? | 14:50 |
tommylikehu | jungleboyj: ok! | 14:51 |
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reedip_ | Hi guys ... how can we define provider_auth for Iscsi in Cinder? | 14:54 |
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ericyoung | jungleboyj, thanks for checking :) | 15:06 |
ericyoung | I didn't imagine anyone would be bored, but I am here to help | 15:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: can I pick your brains about shared cinder attachments (re multi-attach) and the locks? | 15:12 |
jungleboyj | ericyoung: :-) glad to help. | 15:12 |
jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Sure, I am not sure how helpful I will be but I will try. :-) | 15:13 |
johnthetubaguy | we were talking about a host local lock on the Nova side, and I am now not sure if that is good enough | 15:13 |
johnthetubaguy | I am curious about the cinder context of where the races occur | 15:14 |
johnthetubaguy | I think the os-brick attach can race an attachment_delete on the cinder side | 15:14 |
johnthetubaguy | like we scan the luns at the same time as one being removed, bad things happen | 15:14 |
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johnthetubaguy | it just seems odd now we only lock on a single host on the nova side, that seems to assume each shared connection is independent | 15:15 |
jungleboyj | Oh right. Yeah, so if you have two detachments happening at the same time it could race talking to the backend. | 15:15 |
johnthetubaguy | it feels driver dependent, but I am hoping someone could tell me I shouldn't worry abou tit | 15:15 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah | 15:15 |
johnthetubaguy | I am guessing its one set of luns attached to all hypervisors, quite commonly? | 15:16 |
jungleboyj | So, first, if the lock is on the host side we are assuming that multi-attachments are only on a single host which is not a good assumption. | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, that was my worry | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | maybe this is why we had all the talk of a lock key? | 15:17 |
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johnthetubaguy | if we get the shared_targets lock key, we can then DLM on that key? | 15:17 |
jungleboyj | *Sigh* So it seems we need to consider the Cinder side. Let me think here. | 15:17 |
johnthetubaguy | yep sure | 15:17 |
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johnthetubaguy | FWIW, I was just thinking about creating a volume from an image, while all this is happening | 15:17 |
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johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: I attempted some pseudo code here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499777/5/specs/queens/approved/cinder-volume-multi-attach.rst@53 | 15:18 |
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reedip_ | johnthetubaguy ,jungleboyj : ping | 15:19 |
jungleboyj | So, how racey things depends on the backend. | 15:20 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Yes? | 15:20 |
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reedip_ | I need some help . I am unable to configure Cinder with iSCSI drivers. The CHAP username and password generated for volumes are random values. | 15:21 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : probably from https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/c7cbf7614e764dca4e446ba240ee798603025e97/cinder/volume/targets/iscsi.py#L197 | 15:21 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : but I am not sure how I can pass the username password in cinder.conf for CHAP. I am using Mitaka | 15:21 |
jungleboyj | What driver are you using? | 15:22 |
reedip_ | iSCSI, but not specific to any third party | 15:22 |
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reedip_ | jungleboyj : cinder.volume.drivers.lvm.LVMVolumeDriver | 15:23 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Ok, so the LVM Driver. | 15:23 |
reedip_ | Thats the volume driver in [lvm] section | 15:23 |
reedip_ | yes | 15:23 |
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jungleboyj | So, I believe it is designed to use random CHAP username/password so that you don't need to worry about it. :-) | 15:23 |
reedip_ | but the problem is that Volumes cannot attach with the VM. We identified that the issue occurs due to the Username password mismatch. | 15:25 |
reedip_ | There is a function to get the chap information from volume, so there should be a function to set the information as well. I believe it is here | 15:25 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/c7cbf7614e764dca4e446ba240ee798603025e97/cinder/volume/targets/iscsi.py#L131 | 15:25 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : but I am not sure what it is actually reading to get this information :( | 15:26 |
reedip_ | if we can set a specific username password, then it would be easier for us | 15:26 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Hold on. Looking. | 15:26 |
reedip_ | iscsi target and initiator can then talk to each other | 15:26 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : thanks ... | 15:26 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Can I wrap up with johnthetubaguy here. | 15:28 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj: yes sure.. sorry for the interruption | 15:28 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:29 |
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jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: So, I think how much we have to worry about a race on the backend depends on the backend. | 15:29 |
johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: I was worried that might be the case | 15:30 |
openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Add display_name to solidfire volume attributes https://review.openstack.org/512671 | 15:30 |
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jungleboyj | Most drivers have some locking in place if it is something that their backend needs to worry about. | 15:30 |
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jungleboyj | So, we are making drivers specify if they are able to do multi-attach ... right? | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | reedip_: I thought cinder would send Nova the password, which would get used here (in new ish versions of Nova): https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/af2f60f9bab271ba26d4d1e8f15e0d1ce7f1ccec/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py#L1007 | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: we are... | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | but we have a probable without multi-attach | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | problem | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | I guess what we want is the lock key from the back end, then use a DLM on that key? | 15:32 |
jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Right, but the problem is that the backends need to be aware of locking implications for detach. Right? | 15:32 |
smcginnis | I thought we were returning up the lock key so the backends could control at what scope the locking needed to be done at. | 15:32 |
reedip_ | johnthetubaguy : exactly , the new-ish version ... mine is mitaka :| .. :( | 15:32 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: :-( | 15:33 |
reedip_ | cinder still supports dirverfixes/mitaka branch, doesnt it ?? :) | 15:33 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: That is what I am trying to get at. It seems that the backends need to be able to decide what locking they need if the are supporting multi-attach. | 15:34 |
jungleboyj | I am not sure why we need to worry about DLM in any specific manner on the Cinder side given that the driver isn't more distributed than normal here. | 15:34 |
smcginnis | I don't think multiattach is really an issue, but whether things use shared targets, etc. | 15:34 |
jungleboyj | It may be HA, but again, that locking is up to the drivers to handle. | 15:35 |
smcginnis | Yeah, shouldn't need DLM. | 15:35 |
jungleboyj | I am sure I am over-simplifying. | 15:36 |
johnthetubaguy | the problem was we have people complaining about data corruption, and we didn't want to make it worse with multi-attach, if I remember correctly | 15:36 |
johnthetubaguy | why is the host local lock good enough? I guess I am not understanding that bit | 15:37 |
johnthetubaguy | if its the same luns exposed to each hypervsiors, surely a detach on any node might cause a problem with an attach happening on a different node? or is that not possible? | 15:38 |
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smcginnis | jungleboyj: No, nothing on one node should disript IO from another node. | 15:39 |
smcginnis | *disrupt | 15:39 |
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jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Because at the Cinder Volume level it is all going through the same volume service. | 15:42 |
jungleboyj | One backend == one volume service | 15:42 |
jungleboyj | Unless they are HA, which we don't have working yet, but at that point they need to have set up their driver to account for such situations. | 15:42 |
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johnthetubaguy | not sure I understand the details here, feel I am missing something | 15:43 |
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johnthetubaguy | each host connection is a separate volume service, so they are independent? | 15:44 |
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johnthetubaguy | maybe this is just a case of correctly tearing down the shared connection at the right time? | 15:45 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: No, host connection is separate thing from volume service. Control plane vs data plane. | 15:45 |
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smcginnis | So for a given backend, there will be a volume service managing it. | 15:45 |
smcginnis | So if a detach and attach come in at the same time, that's controlled there. | 15:45 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, volume service is c-vol service, I think I was missing that bit in my head | 15:46 |
smcginnis | I think the issue is on the host side on whether it needs to lock local changes to attachements. | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, so I am miss understanding the bug | 15:46 |
smcginnis | So if the backend has shared targets, it can provide a lock name for nova to use, from what I remember of the discussion. | 15:46 |
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smcginnis | Then nova would lock on that to prevent local changes conflicting with one another. | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | so there is a tear up / tear down a shared connection, the host local host sure helps there, the key reduces the scope of the lock, thats all good | 15:47 |
smcginnis | But it would not matter if there was another compute host doing things, because that will not conflict with anything. | 15:47 |
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johnthetubaguy | so we spoke about the need for an attachment_update and attachment_delete doing things on the back end that might conflict with local os-brick operations, is that not a thing? | 15:48 |
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johnthetubaguy | oh, I guess its always on the thing local to the host, like the export? | 15:48 |
johnthetubaguy | I wish we had written more of this down before | 15:49 |
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johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: ... so winding back, does the pseudo code in my comment look correct:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499777/5/specs/queens/approved/cinder-volume-multi-attach.rst@53 | 15:50 |
jungleboyj | So, do you feel better that if we are locking on the client side that we are ok on the cinder-volume/backend side? | 15:50 |
aspiers | hey guys, just delurking - haven't caught up with the whole conversation here but are you talking about active/active? | 15:51 |
jungleboyj | aspiers: indirectly. | 15:52 |
jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Yes, I think so but then it brings up the question that Matt just put there. Do we need to be doing DLM then? | 15:53 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: [policy in code] Add support for service, limits https://review.openstack.org/510722 | 15:53 |
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aspiers | jungleboyj: I'd be keen to talk about the self-fencing problem whenever it suits you guys, but I don't mean to butt in here :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237076/ | 15:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: smcginnis: I guess the question is, a single export per volume, but its attached on two different hosts, don't we get a similar race to the shared host connection case, but it needs a DLM? | 15:56 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: No, I don't believe so. Attachment modifications on the one host shouldn't impact other hosts. | 15:57 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Sorry, too much going on this morning | 15:57 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: I think this is what the pseudocode would look like: | 15:57 |
smcginnis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/623861/ | 15:57 |
jungleboyj | aspiers: Looks like that is blocked up. Would it be worth discussing in tomorrow's weekly meeting. I would like to keep whatever we can with regards to HA moving forward. | 15:58 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: why get_connector outside the lock? I guess it doesn't depend on the state of the system? | 15:58 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Oh, you are right! | 15:58 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Because the backend will provide the scoping to lock on, IIRC. | 15:59 |
jungleboyj | So if you have a potential race condition across multiple hosts it filters down to the backend volume host that will do the locking. | 15:59 |
aspiers | jungleboyj: thanks, me too :) I'll try to attend the meeting tomorrow | 15:59 |
jungleboyj | We just need to worry about multiple attachments on a single host. | 15:59 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: If it's shared, then it will provide the same lock name. If it's not, then each connector will have a unique name and it won't really matter. | 15:59 |
smcginnis | Maybe jgriffith can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I remember from the conversation. | 15:59 |
jungleboyj | Ok. aspiers Can you please add it with an overview of what needs to be discussed to the agenda? | 15:59 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: but this is a different problem, its two separate hosts, one volume, two attachments, one export, maybe that is not a thing, or cinder deals with the locking already? | 16:00 |
jungleboyj | aspiers: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas | 16:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick master: Protect against race within os.path.realpath https://review.openstack.org/507653 | 16:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick master: Fix _remove_scsi_symlinks_no_links test https://review.openstack.org/507654 | 16:00 |
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jungleboyj | Though, let me create the initial entry there. I thought I had already done that. | 16:01 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Yeah, and I'm saying two separate hosts is not an issue. | 16:01 |
reedip_ | hmm | 16:02 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: OK, sorry, I am miss-understanding you then | 16:02 |
smcginnis | Attach for host A, attach for host B, detach for host A will basically be serialized by needing to go through the same backend/service. | 16:02 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Nah, I think we're just concerned about different parts of the process. ;) | 16:02 |
jungleboyj | aspiers: Ok, all ready for you. | 16:03 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: very probably | 16:03 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: the local lock I am fine with, gives us protection, my worry is what it doesn't protect us against | 16:03 |
aspiers | jungleboyj: thanks! | 16:03 |
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smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Do you have a specific scenario you are concerned with? | 16:03 |
johnthetubaguy | yes, mriedem put it on the spec I think | 16:04 |
johnthetubaguy | multi-attach=true | 16:04 |
jungleboyj | aspiers: Thank you. | 16:04 |
johnthetubaguy | volume attach on two different hosts | 16:04 |
johnthetubaguy | hmm, maybe its not an issue, but anyways... | 16:04 |
johnthetubaguy | then you delete all of them, they race strangley on who deletes the export | 16:05 |
johnthetubaguy | I guess I don't understand the cross host concern correctly yet... | 16:05 |
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smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Last one in to the backend cinder service would end up doing the deletion I believe. | 16:05 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, right, so its when you do an attach and detach at the same time | 16:05 |
johnthetubaguy | attach, attach (wait a week) delete, attach, delete | 16:06 |
johnthetubaguy | I guess its the shared state in cinder that protects us, now we have attachments | 16:06 |
smcginnis | Yep ;) | 16:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | so if you could all reply on the spec, that would be awesome: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499777 | 16:07 |
smcginnis | Added a tab, but will be a little while I think before I can write something there coherently. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Ok, I will go do that. I THINK we are ok though. | 16:08 |
johnthetubaguy | if it helps, thursday is spec freeze for nova, and the last chance for multi-attach this cycle :( | 16:09 |
johnthetubaguy | thanks for your time all, that has helped me, I think | 16:09 |
reedip_ | Ok, this is where the code goes to for creating the final volume : https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/targets/tgt.py#L146-L147 | 16:09 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: As long as we haven't confused you more then that's good. :) | 16:10 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: heh, time will tell ;) | 16:10 |
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jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: http://gph.is/XJW8nT | 16:10 |
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jungleboyj | johnthetubaguy: Glad to help. Discussions with you always help me understand Cinder. | 16:11 |
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johnthetubaguy | jungleboyj: :) | 16:11 |
openstackgerrit | John Cates proposed openstack/cinder master: FlashSystem: Add CMMVC6045E CLI error for multi-host mapping https://review.openstack.org/511645 | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | Ok, back to reedip_ ... | 16:12 |
reedip_ | hi jungleboyj ... still trying to understand where the provider_auth populates ... | 16:13 |
jungleboyj | So, I wonder if we can get jgriffith to weigh in here. I think he knows more about how that works for LVM. | 16:13 |
jungleboyj | There are some drivers that let you specify the chap username and password but it doesn't appear that LVM is one of them. | 16:14 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : the get_iscsi_properties is defined in 2 places https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/driverfixes/mitaka/cinder/volume/driver.py#L2366 | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Right. That is the default template for drivers. | 16:15 |
reedip_ | and https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/driverfixes/mitaka/cinder/volume/targets/iscsi.py#L45 | 16:15 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : ok .. the problem is , we have used "use_chap_auth" , "chap_username", "chap_password" in cinder.conf | 16:16 |
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reedip_ | but the tgtadm driver gets random values in https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/driverfixes/mitaka/cinder/volume/targets/tgt.py#L149-L150 | 16:17 |
reedip_ | thats visible in /var/lib/cinder/volumes/ID file as "incominguser RANDOMUSERNAM RANDOMPASSWORD" . The same is also written in the Volumes table in the Cinder database | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | So, let me ask a different question. Why is the chap username and password a problem for you? | 16:20 |
jungleboyj | Are you trying to then manually attach the volume outside of Nova? | 16:21 |
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reedip_ | jungleboyj : hmm, thats also a point I am truing to think .. I am trying to attach the volume to Nova Instances only | 16:21 |
reedip_ | do I need to define the iscsi target/initiator name in nova.conf? | 16:22 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : ^^ | 16:22 |
jungleboyj | Oh, so you are doing a nova volume-attach and having issues? | 16:23 |
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reedip_ | yes | 16:28 |
reedip_ | in simple terms | 16:28 |
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reedip_ | jungleboyj : the error that is reported is iscsi error 24 ( incorrect username / password ) | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | Weird. | 16:32 |
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reedip_ | exactly ... | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Do you have the right iscsi_ip_address set in the config? | 16:32 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : in nova.conf ? | 16:33 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: In Cinder.conf | 16:37 |
reedip_ | we defined it yesterday, after the problem started coming , in cinder.conf. We specified the storage node's IP address in cinder.conf on controller. Is that the right way to do ? | 16:38 |
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jungleboyj | Yes. Have you recreated volumes since then? That, I believe is set at volume creation time. | 16:39 |
jungleboyj | And restarted cinder-volume? | 16:39 |
reedip_ | Yes, but same error | 16:39 |
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jungleboyj | The volume service is running on the controller? | 16:40 |
reedip_ | yep .. cinder-volume, cinder-api , cinder-scheduler | 16:40 |
reedip_ | all restarted | 16:40 |
jungleboyj | What flavor of Linux is on the controller? | 16:41 |
reedip_ | cinder-volume runs on controller and on a storage node. The Volume defined on Controller attaches easily. the volume on storage doesnt | 16:41 |
reedip_ | Ubuntu 14.04 ( deployment flavor ) | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | Ah, ok. So you have multiple volume processes running? | 16:42 |
reedip_ | I realy *hope* that its not a 14.04 issue | 16:42 |
reedip_ | yes, one on controller ( cinder-volume ) and one on storage | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Highly doubt it. That was working well with Mitaka. | 16:42 |
reedip_ | :) | 16:43 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: The storage device is also Ubuntu? | 16:43 |
reedip_ | yes ... Ubuntu 14.04 | 16:43 |
jungleboyj | You have the exact same config file on the storage controller and have restarted the cinder-volume service there? | 16:43 |
reedip_ | yes .... | 16:43 |
reedip_ | except minor changes in the IP address | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | Where did you set the iscsi_ip_address? | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | In the config file? | 16:44 |
reedip_ | Yes ... | 16:44 |
reedip_ | under the [default] sub section | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | Tadah! | 16:45 |
jungleboyj | Don't do that. :-) | 16:45 |
reedip_ | ?? | 16:45 |
reedip_ | Oh .. then where should I define it | 16:45 |
reedip_ | [lvm] ?? | 16:45 |
jungleboyj | Try moving it under the backend configuration . | 16:45 |
jungleboyj | Hold on ... I have some thoughts. On the phone. | 16:45 |
reedip_ | Hmm ... ok, let me try to do that | 16:45 |
reedip_ | Oh sure ... | 16:45 |
openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Add display_name to solidfire volume attributes https://review.openstack.org/512671 | 16:46 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Ok, so you should have two separate [backend names] | 16:47 |
jungleboyj | One should be defined on the controller. | 16:48 |
jungleboyj | One on the storage. Right? | 16:48 |
reedip_ | yes | 16:49 |
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jungleboyj | Ok, good with different volume_backend_names ? | 16:49 |
reedip_ | no, thats not defined | 16:49 |
jungleboyj | Ok, I think you will want to do that. That is the safest thing to do and then do not put the ip address in the default section as that will get overridden. | 16:50 |
jungleboyj | One of the backends will set it and the other will have the wrong IP. | 16:50 |
jungleboyj | Try setting it under the [backend] section. | 16:50 |
reedip_ | ok , so what you are saying is to define the backend_host in the [backend] section with different IPs in both controller and storage ? | 16:51 |
jungleboyj | Backend host? | 16:52 |
reedip_ | thats what defined in the [backend] subsection | 16:52 |
jungleboyj | I am sorry, I may be confusing you here. | 16:53 |
jungleboyj | Let me see if I can find an example. | 16:53 |
reedip_ | sure jungleboyj | 16:53 |
jungleboyj | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/W5TLxaMw/ | 16:55 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: ^^^ | 16:55 |
jungleboyj | So, you would have one like that on the controller. | 16:55 |
reedip_ | ok | 16:55 |
reedip_ | checking | 16:55 |
jungleboyj | Then on the standalone storage system have the same thing but change where I have 'lvm-controller' | 16:56 |
reedip_ | change to ?? | 16:56 |
reedip_ | and the iscsi_ip_address is the address of the controller where one part of sincer lies? | 16:57 |
reedip_ | cinder* | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | for lvm-controller | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | On the standalone storage backend you need to use the IP of the storage backend. | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | The target that is used is local to where the storage lives. | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | Then make sure that you have 'volume_backend_name' listed in the 'enabled_backends' under [default] | 16:59 |
jungleboyj | You will only have enabled_backends=lvm-controller on the controller and then whatever name you use on the storage box on the storage box. | 17:00 |
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reedip_ | wait ... | 17:03 |
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reedip_ | but the enabled_backend names must not be same , right ? | 17:04 |
jungleboyj | Correct. | 17:04 |
jungleboyj | Since they are two different backends. | 17:05 |
reedip_ | ohhh ... I have the same names :| | 17:05 |
jungleboyj | Yep. That could be one problem. You will have unpredictable results there. | 17:05 |
reedip_ | o, thanks for your help jungleboyj | 17:07 |
reedip_ | let me try it out .. thanks a lot for your time :) | 17:08 |
jungleboyj | If you need to have one volume type for both backends you can use 'storage_protocol' iSCSI to select from the two backends automatically. | 17:08 |
jungleboyj | I have that set up in my cloud right now. | 17:08 |
jungleboyj | That or use the volume_backend_name and create two separate types if you want them to be separate. | 17:10 |
reedip_ | ok, so we can avoid volume_backend_type , then in that case, using storage_protocol would solve the issue , right? | 17:11 |
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jungleboyj | reedip_: Correct. Since they are both iSCSI the scheduler will use either when depending on the best fit at that point in time. | 17:11 |
reedip_ | and the storage_protocol will also be defined in the [lvm-controller] / [lvm-storage] section , right ? | 17:12 |
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reedip_ | jungleboyj : honestly , I think the issue would be the same name of enable_backends ( I think , because volume at the contoller can be mounted ... this is just an assumption, though) | 17:14 |
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reedip_ | jungleboyj : i think it worked .... thanks a lOT :) | 17:22 |
reedip_ | the name change fixed the issue :) | 17:22 |
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jungleboyj | reedip_: Wonderful news! I played around with having the same name the other day but didn't see that particular issue. | 17:25 |
reedip_ | :) | 17:25 |
jungleboyj | That is good to know that that can be a side effect of that mistake. | 17:25 |
reedip_ | thanks a lot for your help .. | 17:25 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Welcome. Thank you for patiently answering my questions while I tried to figure it out. | 17:26 |
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reedip_ | :) jungleboyj : but this is an interesting learning .... that the same names can create a difficult issue to decipher ... | 17:28 |
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jungleboyj | Yeah, in my case I had different host names configured. | 17:28 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj : should this be documented ? I mean I faced this issue, but I am not sure if anyone else did. And I am not sure if anyone else will, but if someone does ?? | 17:31 |
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jungleboyj | reedip_: You know. Not a bad idea. Something that could go under 'user' or 'reference' | 17:33 |
reedip_ | :) just trying to help :) | 17:33 |
reedip_ | anyways, thanks again, I was able to use 2 VMs from the Storage node. VGS output shows data used from storage node ... thanks a lot for your help jungleboyj | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-cinderclient master: Use generic user for both zuul v2 and v3 https://review.openstack.org/512502 | 17:35 |
jungleboyj | reedip_: Welcome. If you want to submit documentation on this config issue I would be happy to help get it merged. :-) | 17:36 |
reedip_ | jungleboyj: I would like to leave it to you :) You have a better idea where it will go. It would take me some time to understand the documentation and place it correctly ... :) | 17:37 |
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jungleboyj | reedip_: Good learning experience, but ok. | 17:43 |
jungleboyj | I tried to delegate. | 17:43 |
reedip_ | :) jungleboyj | 17:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder master: Change Install 'Tutorials' to 'Guides' https://review.openstack.org/512766 | 17:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Fix backup compression unit tests https://review.openstack.org/507509 | 18:08 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Run backup compression on native thread https://review.openstack.org/507510 | 18:08 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Add v3 api-ref for updating specific extra specs for a volume type https://review.openstack.org/512571 | 18:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Fix "import xx as xx" grammer https://review.openstack.org/512527 | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: There a number of use cases where it's desirable to do things with volumes out of band (ie not under Cinders control). One example is external backups without the use of c-backup. https://review.openstack.org/512786 | 18:30 |
jgriffith | good lord!! | 18:31 |
gouthamr | :D | 18:31 |
gouthamr | didn't even have to open the patch | 18:31 |
openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Enable using extra-specs for SF attributes https://review.openstack.org/512786 | 18:32 |
jgriffith | gouthamr: LOL | 18:32 |
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jungleboyj | jgriffith: Long summary there. | 18:33 |
jgriffith | jungleboyj: :) | 18:33 |
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jgriffith | hey, look I wrote a unit test that actually just tests one function in the code without loading up 3 services, a database and a zillion objects :) | 18:34 |
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smcginnis | jgriffith: Score! | 18:43 |
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ildikov | jgriffith: you deserve a cheesecake! | 18:46 |
ildikov | jgriffith: or that salted caramel Haagen Dazs ice cream :) | 18:47 |
smcginnis | Mmmm | 18:47 |
openstackgerrit | Sofia Enriquez proposed openstack/cinder master: [WIP] Adding unit test coverage to flow https://review.openstack.org/512796 | 19:01 |
jgriffith | ildikov: oh man... that sounds REALLY good right now | 19:01 |
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ildikov | jgriffith: well, it's desert time in Denver by now :) | 19:06 |
smcginnis | ildikov: When is it not desert time? | 19:09 |
jgriffith | Oh!! No wonder I'm so hungry! | 19:09 |
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ildikov | smcginnis: so you were lecturing me the other day that vanilla ice cream is good all day, but salted caramel is only for desert | 19:13 |
ildikov | smcginnis: and now this? | 19:14 |
ildikov | smcginnis: terrible! :) | 19:14 |
smcginnis | ildikov: Ah, you got me. :D | 19:15 |
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ildikov | smcginnis: Ooops :) | 19:35 |
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* jungleboyj loves the discussion between you three. | 20:35 | |
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smcginnis | What's not to like about ice cream? | 20:42 |
jungleboyj | Unfortunately, nothing ... except the calories. | 20:43 |
jungleboyj | If they had diet ice cream I would have it every day. | 20:43 |
smcginnis | That sounds horrible. | 20:43 |
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Swanson | They have diet ice cream. Like 300 calories a pint instead of per serving. And it is insanely expensive. | 21:03 |
Swanson | And that is manufacturer's servings. So like 150 a pint instead of the 1 per pint that a normal human would do. | 21:04 |
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smcginnis | Still sounds horrible. | 21:09 |
Swanson | The oatmeal stuff I tried was pretty good. But you have to like an oatmeal cereal. | 21:10 |
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SamYaple | jgriffith: http://logs.openstack.org/3d/3df3dec2de39522d9e1d0fcf58cec39e2c0aa615/post/publish-loci-cinder/2113e1e/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-17_21_13_39_310118 | 21:25 |
SamYaple | successful build and push to dockerhub of loci-cinder based on a cinder post job | 21:25 |
smcginnis | Nice! | 21:25 |
SamYaple | man i love zuulv3 | 21:27 |
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thingee | SamYaple: very cool | 22:41 |
SamYaple | i thought so as well. keystone was also happy to add this post job. soon it will be all of openstack | 22:42 |
SamYaple | mwahahaha | 22:42 |
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