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zhaochao | tommylikehu: sorry, I didn't get your message because I turned off private message by default | 01:57 |
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tommylikehu | hey zhaochao, what I said is if you also think there is a issue if we deploy multiple scheudler instances and that would not be big problem as the info can be updated when backends report, I would like to say this change will not be a big problem for multiple deployment too. it also can be updated right? | 01:59 |
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zhaochao | tommylikehu: emm, yes, sheduler stats will also be updated in that case, but I still think it's not good idea to change the behavior of get-pools api, by the currect design, get-pools result will almost consistent | 02:09 |
tommylikehu | zhaochao: this is patch is about the improve the accuracy between broadcast tasks, if you worried about the multiple deployment issues I think that's another big topic which will not only affect this change. | 02:12 |
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zhaochao | tommylikehu: I think pool stats refer to the actual status of the backend reported, so getting values from scheduler maintained data could not be more accurate. Otherwise we should make it clear that get-pools should return how a schedule think about the backends. | 02:27 |
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tommylikehu | zhaochao: yeah, I think that will also be included | 02:43 |
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cdot | Hi I am using neutron. While creating volume using image I getting this error | 08:45 |
cdot | ""cinder.api.openstack.wsgi [req-ac83abd1-20a4-44a3-ad19-d4c362836d38 944f619914f24e1c926b54837d322067 e8ebd8f97d4047389cebbf2a26c21109 - default default] HTTP exception thrown: Invalid image identifier or unable to access requested image. | 08:45 |
cdot | # openstack volume create --image 6f752070-5760-4b42-8296-63960753d58a --size 10 volume2 Invalid image identifier or unable to access requested image. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-ac83abd1-20a4-44a3-ad19-d4c362836d38) | 08:46 |
cdot | kindly help me out | 08:46 |
cdot | someone is there | 08:48 |
cdot | ? | 08:48 |
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cdot | @danpawlik help me | 08:56 |
danpawlik | cdot: with? | 08:56 |
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cdot | Hi I am using neutron. While creating volume using image I getting this error. | 08:57 |
cdot | cinder.api.openstack.wsgi [req-ac83abd1-20a4-44a3-ad19-d4c362836d38 944f619914f24e1c926b54837d322067 e8ebd8f97d4047389cebbf2a26c21109 - default default] HTTP exception thrown: Invalid image identifier or unable to access requested image. | 08:57 |
cdot | # openstack volume create --image 6f752070-5760-4b42-8296-63960753d58a --size 10 volume2 Invalid image identifier or unable to access requested image. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-ac83abd1-20a4-44a3-ad19-d4c362836d38) | 08:57 |
cdot | @danpawlik help me | 09:00 |
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tommylikehu | hey cdot can you show the image detail with command : openstack image show {image_id}? | 09:13 |
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cdot | # openstack image show 6f752070-5760-4b42-8296-63960753d58a +------------------+------------------------------------------------------+ | Field | Value | +------------------+------------------------------------------------------+ | checksum | b62ee4d07fa2240015fdf63f41d82a17 | | container_format | bare | 09:18 |
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cdot | see here https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/F43wqa1A-oreYkgyU8mVXA/deactivate/I5ffo0PH0b00gwETC9LOFGsVLZjg7Go4fM1Q8mVCXLwPOTUGNa5Efq5iszBW6sjI | 09:20 |
cdot | @tommylikehu here https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/F43wqa1A-oreYkgyU8mVXA/deactivate/I5ffo0PH0b00gwETC9LOFGsVLZjg7Go4fM1Q8mVCXLwPOTUGNa5Efq5iszBW6sjI | 09:21 |
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cdot | @tommylikehu ?? | 09:34 |
tommylikehu | cdot: if that so, maybe you can try to investigate the difference in glance api log, because when creating volume from image cinder will also try to show or list images with your specified image id | 09:39 |
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cdot | @tommylikehu this is my cinder-api.log https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IGtI98TfO4Bd5ZZVBltfkw/deactivate/9de0RbUeJCfl4SxcoacVBesaCGGqNWmBkbQvYwoVioqtSk9x8XtDPBNKKJ4HqGKb | 09:58 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Admin guide documentation for volume multiattach https://review.openstack.org/540047 | 10:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Admin guide documentation for volume multiattach https://review.openstack.org/540047 | 10:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Admin guide documentation for volume multiattach https://review.openstack.org/540047 | 12:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Admin guide documentation for volume multiattach https://review.openstack.org/540047 | 12:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Admin guide documentation for volume multiattach https://review.openstack.org/540047 | 13:02 |
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smcginnis | andreaf: I am not entirely sure, but I thought that repo was still in use. | 13:14 |
smcginnis | andreaf: Maybe we can check with eharney when he's around later today. | 13:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Support cross AZ backups https://review.openstack.org/543463 | 14:03 |
openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/python-cinderclient master: Support cross AZ backups https://review.openstack.org/543464 | 14:03 |
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ildikov | smcginnis: is there a good way to figure out driver capabilities like whether or not they support multi-attach? | 14:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Daniil proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix mocks in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/541778 | 14:13 |
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smcginnis | ildikov: There was some work started there, but no, not really. | 14:23 |
smcginnis | ildikov: Pretty much up to reviewing the driver code to see what they do. | 14:23 |
ildikov | smcginnis: sadness, but well, it is what it is :) | 14:24 |
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smcginnis | ildikov: Sometimes that's confusing due to the weird inheritance we have, but I hope this one isn't too bad. | 14:25 |
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ildikov | smcginnis: this should be fixed as the user shouldn't read the code in a happy scenario IMHO | 14:27 |
smcginnis | ildikov: We have this for that reason: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderSupportMatrix | 14:27 |
ildikov | smcginnis: especially if it's confusing ;) | 14:28 |
smcginnis | We could/should add multiattach there. | 14:28 |
ildikov | smcginnis: there you go :) | 14:28 |
smcginnis | But that's an error prone manual update process. We need to find a better way to automatically capture some of these things. | 14:28 |
ildikov | smcginnis: is that one up to date? | 14:28 |
ildikov | smcginnis: besides multi-attach I mean | 14:28 |
smcginnis | I started with the driver validation stuff (tox -e compliance and stuff under cinder/interface) but this will require more work. | 14:28 |
smcginnis | ildikov: It's a wiki, so that is the big question. :) | 14:29 |
smcginnis | ildikov: Most likely not. | 14:29 |
ildikov | smcginnis: the wiki can work too if someone keeps an eye on it every now and then | 14:29 |
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ildikov | smcginnis: I will add the wiki link to the docs | 14:46 |
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exarr | Hi all. I am writing to local lvm, and large vols take a little time to spawn. Seems it's failing to create after a certain time. | 15:32 |
exarr | Any ideas? I seem to recall a setting somewhere.... | 15:32 |
smcginnis | exarr: Are you creating volume from image, or through the nova API (creating instance boot from volume from instance)? | 15:36 |
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exarr | smcginnis: I'm spawning new instance from a snapshot (horizon) | 15:38 |
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smcginnis | exarr: OK, you probably need to raise the RPC timeout then. | 15:39 |
smcginnis | exarr: IIRC, it's rpc_response_timeout in cinder.conf | 15:39 |
exarr | ahhhhh | 15:39 |
exarr | Cool, i'll double-checky with google :-) | 15:39 |
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smcginnis | ++ | 15:40 |
exarr | I had previously amended this: block_device_allocate_retries to a larger value (20 minutes or so) but not 100% sure what it's doing. | 15:41 |
exarr | So will wait till it fails, then look to your instruction :-) | 15:41 |
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exarr | Just sits there "Block Device Mapping" for ages :-) | 15:43 |
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exarr | I should really consider making the images faster to being created. | 15:51 |
exarr | I have modified as you suggested, let's see how it goes, thanks :-) | 15:51 |
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smcginnis | exarr: Good luck! | 15:56 |
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exarr | Didn't work :-( | 16:04 |
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exarr | I only restarted cinder services after the modification. Should I have restarted nova too? | 16:05 |
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exarr | smcginnis: Any ideas? :-( | 16:08 |
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ildikov | mriedem: jungleboyj: jgriffith: smcginnis: I started to work on the multi-attach docs: http://logs.openstack.org/47/540047/7/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/ae4ad1f/html/admin/blockstorage-volume-multiattach.html | 16:09 |
ildikov | the above is the current stage, still need to finish the sections down from RO/RW | 16:09 |
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ildikov | as we try to put emphasis on stand alone services, I think the items under Nova items should go into Nova's docs | 16:10 |
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ildikov | what are your thoughts on that? | 16:10 |
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mriedem | would have to read it in detali, | 16:13 |
mriedem | *detail | 16:13 |
mriedem | i know that "The volume multi-attach feature is only supported when using the new attachment API calls such as attachment-create, attachment-update, and so forth." isn't true | 16:13 |
mriedem | well, maybe i'm thinking about something else | 16:14 |
mriedem | ildikov: i think i originally suggested that we put docs in both projects and they can just reference each other, | 16:15 |
mriedem | i.e. 'for more information, see the cinder admin guide <link>' | 16:15 |
mriedem | then the nova items section in the cinder docs just becomes a link | 16:16 |
ildikov | I reworked jgriffith's docs about the volume_type for multi-attach and I think the note is from there and true or not we still want to encourage the use of that API anyway... :) | 16:16 |
ildikov | mriedem: yep, I just grouped your items that belong to Nova under a section now and wanted to agree before start the Nova docs patch that it's what we want | 16:17 |
ildikov | mriedem: I didn't remember to agree on the suggestion | 16:18 |
mriedem | i'm not really sure where this belongs in nova...it's part admin guide, part user doc | 16:18 |
mriedem | admin guide is probably ok since it's mostly about scheduling caveats and hypervisor versions | 16:18 |
ildikov | admin guide I think cover some of the how things work | 16:19 |
ildikov | but it's structured per project | 16:19 |
ildikov | so listing hypervisors under the Cinder section looks a little odd | 16:19 |
mriedem | yes i agree | 16:19 |
ildikov | ok, cool; then I will look into adding things under Nova's docs as well | 16:20 |
mriedem | i'll leave some comments in the review | 16:20 |
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mriedem | ildikov: i'd throw it under 'Manage volumes' in the nova admin guide https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/ | 16:22 |
mriedem | the nova admin guide is a bit of a mess still after the pike docs migration, but that seems logically the best place to group this | 16:23 |
ildikov | if there's anything about attaching a volume there, which I suppose there is then it can go somewhere around there | 16:23 |
ildikov | 100% agree | 16:23 |
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mriedem | ildikov: ok comments inline | 16:37 |
ildikov | mriedem: thank you! | 16:38 |
mriedem | let me know if you want me to do the nova docs | 16:38 |
mriedem | i'm just twiddling my thumbs until the ptg anyway | 16:38 |
ildikov | mriedem: if you have both time and willingness then I appreciate it, otherwise I can do it | 16:39 |
ildikov | mriedem: I guess if I do it you'll rewrite it anyway :) | 16:39 |
mriedem | ok i'll let you know if i start | 16:39 |
ildikov | sounds good, thanks | 16:39 |
ildikov | as for the attachment_create, etc notes | 16:40 |
ildikov | as it's possible someone uses Cinder without Nova from that perspective the note still stands | 16:40 |
mriedem | alright, it just seems redundant as it already says that using 3.44 is required | 16:41 |
mriedem | as you said later about testing, that's dev guide stuff | 16:41 |
mriedem | the admin doesn't need to care about that | 16:41 |
mriedem | just that 3.44 is available for what needs to use it (nova or other) | 16:41 |
ildikov | I was asking whether it is as to me it seemed to, but wasn't sure about the latest trends | 16:41 |
mriedem | i'm fine with moving the testing notes to the nova docs | 16:42 |
mriedem | or some dev guide in cinder if that exists | 16:42 |
mriedem | but i'd also say that using attachment crud apis for multiattach is not an admin guide detail | 16:42 |
mriedem | it's a dev detail | 16:42 |
ildikov | they can still use the old API with 3.44, so I usually rather duplicate some things to ensure people get the point | 16:42 |
mriedem | well i think the shed should be blue | 16:43 |
mriedem | so there | 16:43 |
ildikov | except if someone is just playing with Cinder, which will be the minority for now, but well | 16:43 |
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ildikov | blue? | 16:44 |
mriedem | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed | 16:44 |
ildikov | ah :) | 16:45 |
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ildikov | sometimes you learn something new even on a Monday :) | 16:45 |
ildikov | my vote is purple though ;) | 16:46 |
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mriedem | as a MN vikings fan, i'm ok with purple | 16:49 |
ildikov | nice! purple it is then | 16:50 |
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exarr | Should I look to change the default values of volume_clear_ and volume_dd_ options? | 17:37 |
exarr | Or are they set to something that makes sense out of the box? | 17:38 |
exarr | (I installed manually) | 17:38 |
exarr | Making 80G lvm volumes takes like foreeeever :) | 17:39 |
exarr | actually, it creates the volume (eventually) but then when it tries to start spawning, it fails. | 17:40 |
exarr | And when trying to launch that as an instance, that fails. grr. | 17:41 |
exarr | Shows the type as an ISO. Hm. | 17:42 |
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exarr | port not usable seens to be in the error. Gah. | 17:45 |
exarr | I do wish Horizon handled error responses better :-) | 17:46 |
exarr | "port not usable for instance" error still there. That's weird. | 17:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: nimble: update config doc to add missing extra-specs support https://review.openstack.org/536555 | 18:09 |
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mnaser | are quotas calculated dynamically or increased/decreased as volume are created/deleted? | 18:16 |
mnaser | is it possible that somehow we landed in a race condition where a tenant has 0 volumes.. yet 560GB usage reported? | 18:16 |
mnaser | with 14 volumes, but cinder list --tenant <foo> shows nothing | 18:17 |
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jungleboyj | mnaser: Quotas are increased/decreased as volumes are created/deleted . It is possible you have hit a race condition there. There have been race conditions reported there in the past, but that sounds awful suspicious to have that large a race condition. | 18:24 |
mnaser | jungleboyj: yeah, that makes sense... i think nova has a refresh quotas command, be nice if cinder had that | 18:25 |
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jungleboyj | ildikov: Thanks. I will take a look at that change here soon. | 18:27 |
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ildikov | jungleboyj: BTW, I guess this goes into Rocky now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541368/ ? | 18:31 |
* jungleboyj sighs. I thought that made it in to Queens. | 18:32 | |
DHE | Okay, so I've defined two different backends on two different servers, each with a different volume_backend_name set and types created. when creating a volume though it seems to disregard my type request and pick something at random. | 18:32 |
jungleboyj | ildikov: Ok, so I just +A'ed it. | 18:33 |
ildikov | jungleboyj: cool, tnx | 18:33 |
jungleboyj | Could possibly look at Backporting it to Queens since we missed that. I don't know that we should do another RC at this point for it though. | 18:34 |
jungleboyj | Unless we have something else come up to warrant it. | 18:34 |
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ildikov | yeah, I don't have strong opinion on RC | 18:35 |
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ildikov | would be nice to have it in Queens, but I'm not sure it alone should trigger another RC | 18:36 |
jungleboyj | ildikov: That is how I feel and I think we could backport it after RC. Not supposed to do that, but it is kind of silly to have multi-attach with out it. | 18:37 |
imacdonn | jungleboyj: it was held up by the ZFSSA CI system needing some modifications... I fixed that late last week, and pinged you about pushing that change through, but I suppose it was already too late by then | 18:39 |
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jungleboyj | imacdonn: Ok. Shoot. I must have missed that ping. But yes, we cut the RC on early Thursday. | 18:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder master: Improve logs on scheduler https://review.openstack.org/543583 | 19:07 |
erlon | geguileo, ^ | 19:07 |
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geguileo | erlon: done | 19:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder master: Improve logs on scheduler https://review.openstack.org/543583 | 19:38 |
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mriedem | what is the difference between creating a snapshot of a volume and a backup of a volume? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530214/ | 21:30 |
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smcginnis | mriedem: A snapshot is just something local. Depending on the type of storage, it is either some bit of metadata marking a volume state at the time of the snapshot, or an internal mini-clone, or $proprietary. A backup is an actual copy of the data off to somewhere else. | 21:32 |
smcginnis | mriedem: So snapshots can help as a nearline data protection point, but they are not really a backup. | 21:33 |
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smcginnis | mriedem: The typos and grammar errors there are... plentiful. | 21:34 |
mriedem | ha | 21:34 |
mriedem | that's why i said "here and throughout" | 21:34 |
mriedem | so it sounds like what they'd actually want to be using here is volume backup | 21:34 |
mriedem | server backup for image-backed ephemeral instances is a glance image snapshot | 21:35 |
mriedem | so a copy of the root disk | 21:35 |
mriedem | sounds like a volume snapshot is not that thing | 21:35 |
smcginnis | Yeah, snapshot would not be a "copy" of the root disk. | 21:35 |
mriedem | cool; maybe you want to mention that in my part where i said, "i don't know the difference wrt cinder" | 21:36 |
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mlavalle | diablo_rojo: quick question from the spreadsheet for the teams photos. Is lunch time from 12 to 2? | 22:29 |
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