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| openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/cinder master: Allow extension of volumes with snapshots for VZstorage driver https://review.openstack.org/462905 | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael McAleer proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - VMAX list manageable volumes and snapshots. https://review.openstack.org/557297 | 11:26 |
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| eharney | jungleboyj: xyang: so what's the plan here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556640/ | 14:22 |
| xyang | eharney, jungleboyj: what's the new merge policy? I'm fine getting this merged. Looks good | 14:24 |
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| smcginnis | eharney, xyang: Spot check of third party CI failures didn't look related. +W | 14:25 |
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| tommylikehu | hey eharney, what's your suggestion on the strict mode of signature verification? | 14:34 |
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| tommylikehu | smcginnis: do you mind to take a look at this spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557112/ | 14:35 |
| eharney | tommylikehu: i'm not sure, it's not obvious yet how to combine the idea of strict mode meaning "always require verification" with the fact that some drivers won't do verification | 14:35 |
| eharney | tommylikehu: because the current proposal makes it sound like "always require verification except it won't work in conditions X, Y, and Z" and so nobody is going to be able to figure out what it's actually doing | 14:36 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: that's is true and what's why you asked to add metadata | 14:36 |
| eharney | adding metadata is also helpful for the "optional" case... i'm not sure it helps with this issue | 14:37 |
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| eharney | we decided we needed a "strict" mode after Duncan suggested that, but nobody has figured out how it would work exactly, so far | 14:38 |
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| tommylikehu | DuncanT: :) | 14:38 |
| eharney | i'm wondering if we should just rely on setting the user-visible metadata which pushes the issue of requiring it or not back to the user | 14:39 |
| tommylikehu | looks it meaningless when we can't cover every cases | 14:39 |
| eharney | then users that demand verification can check for it | 14:39 |
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| eharney | because the signatures are handled by users anyway, but the "strict" option is a deployer concern... sounds like having it as a Cinder option may not be the right place | 14:40 |
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| eharney | as always, it depends on mapping out what issues specifically this is protecting against | 14:40 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: sounds reasonable | 14:40 |
| DuncanT | Hey, there are smart people to figure out solutions, I just find the holes :-) | 14:40 |
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| tommylikehu | DuncanT: lol | 14:41 |
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| DuncanT | In general I couldn't see any real point to it without a working strict mode | 14:41 |
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| eharney | well, the strict mode as proposed doesn't seem to really add much | 14:41 |
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| eharney | because it can only be implemented as "strict some of the time" | 14:42 |
| tommylikehu | eharney, DuncanT maybe we can add this option when we really can do it in the backend | 14:42 |
| DuncanT | And without strict mode, what is the point of the feature? | 14:42 |
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| DuncanT | That was what I didn't understant | 14:43 |
| eharney | the point of the feature is that a user provides a signature and the user can verify that the signature was validated at the time of the volume was created, protecting against mitm and corruption problems around the glance service | 14:43 |
| DuncanT | ...except if they're using ceph as an image store | 14:43 |
| eharney | well, that's the part i'm still trying to figure out | 14:44 |
| eharney | how does Nova's version of this same feature work when using Ceph for both Glance and the instance store? | 14:44 |
| tommylikehu | DuncanT: can we cover the case when volume is created via clone image or clone image volume? | 14:45 |
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| eharney | does it do anything? | 14:45 |
| DuncanT | I think the ability of a user to manually query the validity of the signature is of very limited value from a security PoV | 14:45 |
| eharney | i kind of agree, but i'm not sure that making this a cinder.conf option makes sense | 14:46 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: need to check it, but last time when I see it, they only validate signature when image is downloaded via glanceclient | 14:47 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/24379f1822e3ae1d4f7c8398e60af6e52b386c32/nova/image/glance.py#L333 | 14:48 |
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| eharney | tommylikehu: yeah, it looks like it's skipped if it's a direct backend transfer from glance (allowed_direct_url_schemas above) | 14:55 |
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| eharney | tommylikehu: it makes me think we should go with our original plan, and figure out how to make a "strict" mode as a later feature | 15:03 |
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| tommylikehu | eharney: agree:) | 15:07 |
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| DuncanT | eharney: tommylikehu: Under what circumstances is this information actually checked / useful? | 15:11 |
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| tommylikehu | DuncanT: in cinder, this is useful when image content is downloaded from glance (and not cinder backend image) | 15:28 |
| eharney | DuncanT: this is described in the spec... mitm between Cinder and Glance, or corruption on the Glance backend, which can be caught by Cinder | 15:29 |
| tommylikehu | hey geguileo, smcginnis, that's is true we discussed to use json filter to support this. but I removed it from spec as it can not really work without modify json filter codes. | 15:31 |
| tommylikehu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557112/ | 15:31 |
| DuncanT | eharney: My point being, if it only works for some images some of the time, is it actually useful? | 15:32 |
| eharney | DuncanT: it is if the user can validate that it happens | 15:32 |
| DuncanT | eharney: I'm dubious, but if you're sure... | 15:33 |
| eharney | and it still would succeed in catching issues with signed images | 15:33 |
| DuncanT | eharney: I really can't see any user actually checking it | 15:33 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis, geguileo: plus it's not convenient for administrator to use, I would suggest to have the cloud vendor to write their own filter plugins to support it | 15:33 |
| eharney | even without checking it, it catches a whole class of issues | 15:34 |
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| jgriffith | Has Tempest become highly unstable for other CI's as of late or is it just *mine*? | 15:44 |
| jgriffith | swap and snapshot related tests inparticular | 15:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder stable/pike: Cinder Tempest plugin tests: Switch to stable interface https://review.openstack.org/557385 | 15:56 |
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| smcginnis | tommylikehu: geguileo has more experience there, and seemed to have some ideas around it, so I'd like to get his input. | 16:03 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: waiting for his response too :) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: But if you wanted to expand on that spec in the meantime, that might be good. I don't think there is enough detail there to fully understand the proposal. | 16:04 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: ok | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Thanks! | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Don't use custom password generating code https://review.openstack.org/556640 | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Add IPV6 support for SolidFire MVIP https://review.openstack.org/557001 | 16:43 |
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| alkhodos | jungleboyj: Hi, you have commented about documentation for the driver in this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513143/, could you help me out on how to post docs? Google did not help :( | 17:08 |
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| jungleboyj | alkhodos: Hey. | 17:15 |
| jungleboyj | alkhodos: What do you need help with? | 17:15 |
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| smcginnis | alkhodos: Here's an existing example - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/cinder/master/doc/source/configuration/block-storage/drivers/nexentastor5-driver.rst | 17:16 |
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| jungleboyj | alkhodos: You can find information on how to contribute documentation here: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/contributor/documentation.html | 17:17 |
| alkhodos | smcginnis: jungleboyj: So the *.rst file jsut goes in the patch? | 17:17 |
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| vivsoni_ | jungleboyj: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556765/ | 17:17 |
| jungleboyj | Correct. You add an rst file similar to the one smcginnis references. | 17:18 |
| jungleboyj | Add it as part of the patch in doc/source/configuration/block-storage/drivers | 17:18 |
| alkhodos | oh, thanks. For some reason I was sure that there was a separate openstack-docs project | 17:18 |
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| jungleboyj | alkhodos: There is but they no longer handle the project documentation. | 17:19 |
| jungleboyj | We now have to do that. | 17:19 |
| alkhodos | jungleboyj: oh I see. I remember posting old docs to mitaka and I had to make a separate patch/review for that. | 17:21 |
| jungleboyj | alkhodos: Ah, that is why you are confused. Yeah, new process now. | 17:21 |
| alkhodos | jungleboyj: I like the new one more :) Thanks for your help | 17:24 |
| jungleboyj | Good. Yeah, I think it is good that we have more control over our documentation. | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder master: FC: refactor fczm utils decorators to functions https://review.openstack.org/472855 | 17:26 |
| hemna_ | speaking of docs... | 17:26 |
| hemna_ | docs still fails on that ^^ | 17:26 |
| hemna_ | :( | 17:26 |
| jungleboyj | hemna_: Hey, I tried to recreate that and couldn't. | 17:27 |
| hemna_ | I don't get it | 17:28 |
| hemna_ | it shouldn't fail | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Add VMAX specific metadata to volume https://review.openstack.org/557448 | 17:28 |
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| jungleboyj | Yeah, I tried to make it fail locally and it wouldn't. | 17:35 |
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| smcginnis | hemna_: Docs just built fine locally for me for that patch. | 17:37 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok, so you too. | 17:47 |
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| eharney | hemna_: jungleboyj: smcginnis: it will fail locally if you run the same commands that the gate job runs | 18:06 |
| eharney | our tox docs job doesn't run with warning-as-error enabled | 18:06 |
| eharney | source .tox/docs/bin/activate | 18:07 |
| eharney | sphinx-build -b html -W doc/source doc/build/html | 18:07 |
| eharney | http://logs.openstack.org/55/472855/9/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/33681d4/ara/ <- click on the red FAILED and you'll see what the job runs | 18:07 |
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| eharney | we are missing a -W compared in our tox command compared to what runs there | 18:09 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Oh, interesting. I thought we had set warning-as-error . | 18:22 |
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| jungleboyj | That should be fixed. | 18:22 |
| eharney | yes | 18:22 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I will recreate and take a look again. | 18:22 |
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| hemna_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzpLiO1QixU | 18:25 |
| hemna_ | lunch break :) | 18:25 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna_: That looks more like playing than lunching. | 18:38 |
| hemna_ | it is :) | 18:39 |
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| smcginnis | Oh! It's probably our autodoc stuff. | 18:46 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, nope. We don't have that in setup.cfg. | 18:47 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah. that is the autodoc. | 18:47 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: ping | 18:48 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: Pong. | 18:48 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Normally I've seen that in setup.cfg. Do you know where we have that? | 18:48 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Seen what? | 18:48 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: hey Jay, quick question, I saw several driver patches are recently merging in stable/pike. Isn't this branch supposed to be open for security and critical fixes only? | 18:48 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: based on your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528783/ I thought it was closed | 18:49 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: That was the plan and then the new proposal to keep the branches open longer came along so I eased up on that a bit. | 18:49 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: This stuff - https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/setup.cfg#L109 | 18:50 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: the merged patches I'm referring to are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554656/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554701/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551831/ | 18:50 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: That is why I have added the discussion in next week's meeting on the topic. | 18:50 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: ok, so that means the branch is still open and we could backport this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528782/ ? | 18:51 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, that has been in there for quite a while. | 18:51 |
| jungleboyj | That is why I did all that work to fix up docstrings. | 18:51 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Do you know where we do that from? It's not in Cinder's setup.cfg where I expected to find it. | 18:52 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: Yeah, that is small. I think I am ok with that backport without further discussion. | 18:52 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: ok, I will test it downstream and work on it | 18:52 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: thank you! | 18:52 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: Welcome. | 18:53 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Sorry, I am not following what you are asking about. | 18:55 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Normally the bit that triggers the automatic documentation of modules using their docstrings is done by something like that [pbr] section I pointed to in glance. | 18:56 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Cinder does not have that. | 18:56 |
| smcginnis | But we are getting that automatic documentation generation, so I'm wondering if you know where we are triggering that to happen. | 18:56 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Oh .... *Sigh* I didn't notice that was Glance. Have too many things going on. | 18:56 |
| jungleboyj | Hold on. | 18:57 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I think it happens due to doc/source/conf.py | 19:01 |
| jungleboyj | As part of sphinx-build -b html doc/source doc/build/html | 19:02 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we have some hook that must call this: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/54d6c2da9c1043ba7a9d24fe7395150daa362aae/doc/generate_autodoc_index.sh | 19:02 |
| smcginnis | Good, more code I might be able to get rid of soon. :) | 19:02 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Right. | 19:03 |
| jungleboyj | If there is a better way to do that. ++ | 19:03 |
| jungleboyj | In the mean time let me figure out hemna_ 's issue | 19:03 |
| jungleboyj | I know I have fixed that before but can't remember what it was. | 19:04 |
| smcginnis | I would think it's just a tweak to the unity driver docstring. | 19:04 |
| jungleboyj | Right. I need to play with it as all the recommendations I have hemna_ didn't work. | 19:05 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, adding ".. code-block::" like I had suggested seems to fix it locally for me. | 19:08 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Verifying. | 19:17 |
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| hemna_ | in the comment block? | 19:20 |
| hemna_ | why doesn't it fail on other drivers then? | 19:20 |
| eharney | probably they don't have docstrings that look like json structures | 19:21 |
| jungleboyj | He he. | 19:22 |
| smcginnis | It's an embedded chunk of rst, so one option is to paste it into a temporary file and run doc8 against it. | 19:24 |
| hemna_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472855/10/cinder/volume/drivers/hpe/hpe_3par_fc.py | 19:27 |
| hemna_ | pretty much the same | 19:27 |
| hemna_ | doesn't fail | 19:27 |
| smcginnis | hemna_: Have you tried? Once I fixed the first error, then it went on to the next, etc. | 19:30 |
| hemna_ | nah, not yet, I'm stuck ceph'ing at the moment | 19:31 |
| smcginnis | hemna_: I think we have a bunch of latent doc format errors in there. | 19:31 |
| hemna_ | oh, so it fails on the 3par fc driver the same way? | 19:31 |
| smcginnis | I didn't go that far. After I got by the unity driver error, then it gives on in the vmax driver. | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | I'm assuming after that there would be another one, so likely it would eventually fail on the 3par one. | 19:32 |
| hemna_ | damn, so same issue then in multiple drivers | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think so. | 19:32 |
| hemna_ | arg | 19:32 |
| hemna_ | thanks for the info | 19:33 |
| hemna_ | I'll hack on it when I get a chance | 19:33 |
| smcginnis | We never _really_ treated them as rst before, so now that we have warnings enabled for doc builds that pull in autodoc'ing module docstrings, we're going to have to pay attnetion to that I guess. | 19:33 |
| hemna_ | yah it sounds like it. I just got lucky and hit it first. | 19:34 |
| hemna_ | wee! | 19:34 |
| smcginnis | Hah, lucky you! :D | 19:35 |
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| Swanson | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZY7_V0X4AU0bt2.jpg | 19:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder master: Remove unused doc extensions https://review.openstack.org/557495 | 19:53 |
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| eharney | Swanson: the longer i think about that, the more i'm disappointed that "Learn More" isn't a working link... but it's probably for the best | 20:05 |
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| Swanson | eharney, That was kind of my thought, too. I saw it, wanted more information, but couldn't get myself to actually Bing "long egg". | 20:11 |
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| itlinux | hello all, I wonder if anyone suggest to have a sep bond for the controllers as well (running on Tripleo) or just the compute nodes.. That's my plan there but want to see from cinders' gurus | 20:15 |
| itlinux | thanks | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder master: FC: refactor fczm utils decorators to functions https://review.openstack.org/472855 | 20:15 |
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| mnaser | is there a way to recalculate quota manually? | 20:53 |
| mnaser | we ran into a race condition again | 20:53 |
| mnaser | quota limit is hit but the real usage is not the same | 20:55 |
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| smcginnis | mnaser: Unfortunately no. That seems like a good idea. We would need to be very careful to make sure it's not racy, but we could probably add something that tries to reconcile quota against actual usage. | 21:32 |
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| mnaser | smcginnis: that's why it would be useful to figure out maybe as an audit | 21:40 |
| mnaser | like a noop mode of trying to catch issues, and then something to fix it, hopefully it doesn't stay as a 'permanent' workaround | 21:41 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: So just output a message where it sees a possible out of sync condition? | 21:41 |
| mnaser | smcginnis: yeah maybe like cinder-manage check-quotas and cinder-manage check-quotas --fix | 21:42 |
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| smcginnis | I can put it on my list as something to look into, but it likely won't be any time soon. | 21:45 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: Might be something good to bring up in the cinder meeting. | 21:45 |
| mnaser | smcginnis: few hours late, but i'll try to look at it | 21:45 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: It seems like a reasonable idea to me, but there may be some reason I don't know about why something similar hasn't been done before. | 21:45 |
| mnaser | smcginnis: yeah, that's possible, we'll see, i'll try to bring it up | 21:46 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: Cool, thanks! | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder master: FC: refactor fczm utils decorators to functions https://review.openstack.org/472855 | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix doc format errors in module docstrings https://review.openstack.org/557531 | 22:05 |
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