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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Add volume re-image api https://review.openstack.org/605317 | 08:52 |
| pamsoo | Hi. I'm using 3Par Storage for cinder backend with iscsi. I want to backup volumes located in 3Par into Ceph nodes periodically. I think that full backup and incremental backup (I need both of them) are possible if radosgw is installed and cinder-backup backend is swift. Am I right? | 08:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/cinder stable/rocky: PY3: Ensure rados.Object.read/write use byte data https://review.openstack.org/612990 | 11:27 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj, smcginnis, do we have a spec proposal freeze? I don't see any here: https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html | 12:17 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: Yes, it's under the Project-specific Events column at milestone-2. | 12:46 |
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| erlon | smcginnis, that is the spec freeze. My question was about the proposal freeze, like keystone | 12:51 |
| smcginnis | erlon: ? | 12:51 |
| smcginnis | erlon: That is the spec proposal freeze. I'm not sure I understand. | 12:51 |
| erlon | Keystone has: "Keystone Spec Proposal Freeze" at milestone-1 and "Keystone Spec Freeze" at milestone-2 | 12:52 |
| smcginnis | Ah, so they call "Keystone Spec Freeze" their "spec must be implemented by this point" freeze. We don't do that. | 12:53 |
| smcginnis | See the description here - https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html#s-cinder-spec-freeze | 12:53 |
| smcginnis | It's just when specs need to be approved by. We typically have until milestone 3 to get things implement. | 12:54 |
| erlon | smcginnis, ok, nice | 12:54 |
| smcginnis | erlon: And it appears it was called Cinder Feature Proposal Freeze, which is a little misleading name IMO, but the description on that sounds right. | 12:55 |
| erlon | smcginnis, I think they do that so they get time enough to review the specs | 12:57 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, probably. It's kind of a balancing act between giving enough time to get all the work done, and making sure things are locked down in time to stabilize the final release. | 12:57 |
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| daikk115 | eharney, can you re-review this patch for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/610645/ | 13:51 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Sorry, the Feature Freeze isn't named very well. I should have had that just Cinder Feature Freeze. | 14:09 |
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| smcginnis | Words ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:19 |
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| woojay | Good morning, quick question for jungleboyj or smcginnis, cinder driver I'm trying to wrap up has an external python dependency. How can I resolve that for an external CI? I'm hoping I can still use Cinder Jenkins. | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | woojay: Your CI would need to install the package. Is that what you mean by "external CI"? | 15:03 |
| woojay | Well, I'm hoping to use Cinder Jenkins as the CI for driver testing, | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Sorry, I don't know what Cinder Jenkins is. | 15:04 |
| woojay | Sorry, it's too early for me... For the third party CI of the driver, I'm looking to see how I can resolve if the driver uses an external python module. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Still not really clear to me, but I'm guessing you may need something like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-ceph/tree/ to get things set up in devstack right. | 15:12 |
| woojay | Thank you, I will look at it. | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | woojay: Are you concerned about if another driver has an external dependency? | 15:15 |
| woojay | My driver uses a python library as a middleware and is a separate module outside of the driver package, and I'm not sure how to include something like that in a testing environment. | 15:17 |
| woojay | On my devstack, I had to install those manually but not sure about external testing environment. | 15:18 |
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| jungleboyj | woojay: You just need to do the same thing you did in your devstack environment. | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | Your CI should be spinning up a devstack to test a patch. You will need to add automation to Jenkins that makes sure your package is installed. | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: You around? | 15:22 |
| woojay | That makes sense. | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | woojay: Does that answer your question? | 15:23 |
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| woojay | Yeah, it does. Lots of rabbit holes, but I will get there... 8-) | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | \o/ | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I know what you mean. | 15:23 |
| coreycb | hi all, I typically don't ask for reviews but this one's a bit urgent for us. would really like to get some smarter eyes on this one before cherry-picking it into distro: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612490 | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | coreycb: I was hoping eharney or jbernard would take a look at that one, but it looks right to me. | 15:26 |
| coreycb | smcginnis: hey! thanks :) | 15:26 |
| eharney | i glanced at it, but am in all-day meetings this week, so i haven't dug into it yet | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | I think it at least shouldn't cause any issues, but not sure if there are cases I'm not aware. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | *of | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, looks ok to me but would like to see one of our Ceph experts take a look. | 15:31 |
| coreycb | ok thanks in advance for reviews. very much appreciated. | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | coreycb: Welcome. | 15:41 |
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| jungleboyj | ganso: Are you working at NetApp? | 16:46 |
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| ganso | jungleboyj: yes, Erlon and I | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: They ever work out how they wanted to handle microversions in gophercloud? | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: That is what I thought. Do you know the state of the OnTap driver? | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | I heard a rumor it might be deprecated. | 16:47 |
| ganso | just a sec, I am confused for a moment, need to read the scrollback on this channel | 16:48 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, we did deprecated the eseries driver | 16:49 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: I am confused, what are talking about? the meeting subject? | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: No, sorry, separate topic. | 16:50 |
| erlon | but ONTAP is definitely not on the deprecation list | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | OnTap ok. Good. Trying to figure out what our new Lenovo/NetApp systems are going to use for drivers. | 16:50 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, ow cool, so you are working on a new lab with Ontap boxes? | 16:52 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Not yet. Working on getting some hardware but trying to figure out what support we may have/need. | 17:00 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Sounds like the DE models are based on E-Series systems so I am a little worried there. | 17:04 |
| jungleboyj | Hopefully the DM systems or OnTap based. Need more info. | 17:05 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: I'm not really sure | 17:15 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I believe manila is still the only impl in gophercloud that does them at all | 17:16 |
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| tbarron | jungleboyj: just run ceph on the e-series boxes | 17:19 |
| tbarron | :) | 17:19 |
| * tbarron is joking but not too, they do that quite well | 17:19 | |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: :-) | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sofia Enriquez proposed openstack/cinder master: Ceph driver should respect the `--incremental` option for backups https://review.openstack.org/612503 | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Short proposed openstack/cinder master: Move tgt targets to privsep https://review.openstack.org/613137 | 18:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Sofia Enriquez proposed openstack/cinder master: Adding unit test coverage to flow https://review.openstack.org/512796 | 18:34 |
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| jbernard | coreycb: looks good, thanks! | 20:03 |
| coreycb | jbernard: great thanks for the review! | 20:04 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon you still around? | 20:51 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, hey, 10 minutes more here | 20:52 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. Just trying to understand your documentation here. | 20:52 |
| jungleboyj | https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/block-storage/drivers/netapp-volume-driver.html | 20:52 |
| jungleboyj | Let me go more recent. | 20:53 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, hmm, you mention your hardware is a DE? do you know the full model name? | 20:53 |
| jungleboyj | https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/configuration/block-storage/drivers/netapp-volume-driver.html | 20:53 |
| erlon | not sure we have a DE model | 20:54 |
| jungleboyj | You don't. This was what I got back from your PM. | 20:54 |
| erlon | https://www.netapp.com/us/products/a-z/index.aspx | 20:54 |
| jungleboyj | Just to follow up on this we support up through E2800 and E5700 for 11.40 release. We did make the business decision to deprecate Cinder earlier this year for E-Series so would need to understand the business justification for reviving this project for future Lenovo programs. | 20:54 |
| jungleboyj | I don't see anything saying that the eseries support is deprecated in your unified driver though. | 20:55 |
| erlon | 11.40 is a release for your product or are you talking about OpenStack versions? | 20:56 |
| jungleboyj | I have no idea what 11.40 means. | 20:57 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, I found the deprecation comment in do_setup for eSeries. | 20:57 |
| jungleboyj | Ug. | 20:57 |
| erlon | so, the E-series is discontinued since some time ago, so that why we deprecated the drivers | 20:57 |
| * jungleboyj start laughing | 20:57 | |
| jungleboyj | So we go and base our new NetApp boxes we offer on it. | 20:57 |
| erlon | haha lol | 20:58 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah ... | 20:58 |
| * jungleboyj is shaking my head | 20:58 | |
| erlon | jungleboyj, so, depending on what stage of the product its not that impossible to change | 21:03 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, go to go now, we talk more tomorrow | 21:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. It has been maintained? | 21:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Sounds good. | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: PY3: Ensure rados.Object.read/write use byte data https://review.openstack.org/612490 | 21:54 |
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