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| openstackgerrit | PENGYUN ZettaStor CI proposed openstack/cinder master: add a backend driver of pengyun zettastor iSCSI storage. https://review.opendev.org/689897 | 02:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhufl proposed openstack/cinder master: [Trivial]Add missing ws between words https://review.opendev.org/689919 | 06:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | PENGYUN ZettaStor CI proposed openstack/cinder master: fix pylint and rst doc issues. https://review.opendev.org/689897 | 07:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Pchelintsev proposed openstack/os-brick master: Remove VxFlexOS connector external dependencies https://review.opendev.org/687848 | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | do3meli proposed openstack/cinder master: [Trivial] Adjust log message and add missing ws between words https://review.opendev.org/689919 | 08:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | haixin proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Add features for volume to record failure info https://review.opendev.org/689977 | 08:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Raghavendra Tilay proposed openstack/cinder master: 3PAR: Add HPE Primera related information https://review.opendev.org/689089 | 10:47 |
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| vbelko | Hi, anyone knows whom I can address questions about third-party CI or when DunkanT will be online? | 12:26 |
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| smcginnis | vbelko: Duncan isn't really active in the community anymore. | 12:35 |
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| vbelko | smcginnis: Ok, then may I address questions to you? Our CI server is up and here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems it has status "enabled". Does it mean server is reachable to Gearman and reporting? What will be the steps when third-party driver is reviewed and it comes to checking of third-party CI server? | 12:38 |
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| smcginnis | vbelko: I don't think anyone here can answer questions about what your CI is or is not doing. That's something we should be asking you. | 12:39 |
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| vbelko | smcginnis: ok, but how does the "enabled" status is set? Manually? Can I toggle a single test run on my CI server from Gerrit review page? Write run-<server name> in the comments? | 12:41 |
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| smcginnis | vbelko: That all depends on how you set up your CI, but run-<servername>, and normal patch testing, should be running all volume related tempest tests. | 12:42 |
| smcginnis | vbelko: And I assume you are the one that added the wiki page information, so I would expect that to be updated to actually state the status of the CI. | 12:43 |
| vbelko | smcginnis: Oh. So it's really just a static info page. Ok then. So the way to verify CI server status is to run rechecks against this server on Gerrit review page until server is configured. Fine then. | 12:48 |
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| raghavendrat | hi reviewers, this is regarding https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689089/, it would be great if anyone can review & provide feedback. Thanks. | 13:09 |
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| KeithMnemonic | smcginnis, can you look at the feedback on that review from the horion team https://review.opendev.org/689871. they are asking to remove all of that info | 13:25 |
| smcginnis | KeithMnemonic: I think Akihiro has a point there. | 13:26 |
| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: that's my personal opinion, but I am exploring how we can maintain the contents well. | 13:28 |
| KeithMnemonic | so remove the whole table and point to that link. Will that work for earlier versions stein/rocky? | 13:28 |
| KeithMnemonic | does it not make sense to merge my patch now, and have an open story/bug to optimize the doc. currently we have incorrect information listed | 13:29 |
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| smcginnis | KeithMnemonic: That seems reasonable to me. Then the details and better plan can be worked up without as much of a rush. Make sense to you amotoki? | 13:30 |
| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: smcginnis: I am fine to merge KeithMnemonic's patch as-is and explore how we can improve the content better than now. | 13:31 |
| amotoki | that's the reason I didn't -1 to your patch. | 13:31 |
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| KeithMnemonic | but you did not WF+1 either ;-) | 13:32 |
| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: voting +W as-is means that we cannot move it forward further. how can I ask a question like this? I believe no vote and asking it is the right way. | 13:35 |
| amotoki | do you plan to explore a better way to maintain the contents? Otherwise, we will hit similar problem easily. | 13:36 |
| amotoki | At least, do you agree to replace the table with the link to the API reference in the master after merging your patch? | 13:36 |
| KeithMnemonic | amotoki: I think that is what smcginnis is willing to do. He just did not want to rush into it and since we have incorrect docs out there trying to see they best way to fix the docs but also optimize the delivery so the horizon docs can pull from the cinder maintained docs. rgiht smcginnis? | 13:37 |
| smcginnis | Sorry, I was not signing myself up to redo that. I was just suggesting you could follow through with that change. Unfortunately I'm already overallocated. | 13:40 |
| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: do you see any problem to replace the table with the link to the cinder API reference? If you are okay from cinder POV, I can propose a patch after merging yours. | 13:41 |
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| amotoki | honestly the current contents is more than what horizon team can maintain. it is just from openstack-manuals during the doc-migration effort. IMHO, if we want more accuracy in the horizon doc, the horizon team needs to shrink the document, for example, by referring to external docs/api-refs more. | 13:47 |
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| smcginnis | I think it makes a lot of sense to *not* duplicate content in multiple locations like that. Would be good just to refer back to the Cinder docs. | 13:48 |
| KeithMnemonic | amotoki: that is fine with me. I think we need to update the api to provide the extra detail about only using 256 for xts | 13:49 |
| KeithMnemonic | but i am not a core here | 13:49 |
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| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: thanks. fortunately the cinder team is helpful enough | 13:50 |
| e0ne | I agree with smcginnis: lets' do not duplicate docs | 13:51 |
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| KeithMnemonic | amotoki if you want to propose your patch sooner than later and abandon mine that is fine. we should just make sure this gets back ported to the docs for versions that are still in support | 13:54 |
| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: I think yours is fine as it is backport-able. After the discussion here, it is clear to me on what we should do as the next step, so I can approve your fix in horizon docs. | 13:56 |
| KeithMnemonic | ok,thanks!. feel free to add me as a reviewer on you next steps | 13:57 |
| -amotoki- is approving the horizon patch with a comment referring to this discussion | 13:57 | |
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| amotoki | KeithMnemonic: +W now. thanks for your patience | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinderlib master: Fix cloning source_volid https://review.opendev.org/690101 | 15:11 |
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| hemna_ | mep | 16:14 |
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| tosky | geguileo: I probably asked about this already: cinderlib is going to be branched starting from train, but what is the minimum openstack version supported? Train or stein? | 16:21 |
| tosky | does it also mean that the zuul jobs should be tuned to not run the cinderlib functional tests for older versions? | 16:22 |
| geguileo | tosky: cinderlib v0.9 was the Stein release | 16:22 |
| tosky | I'm asking because in my work-in-progress patch for cinder-tempest-plugin I also execute the cinderlib tests, but cinder-tempest-plugin is branchless | 16:22 |
| tosky | so if cinderlib does not work with rocky I need to add a few conditionals around | 16:23 |
| geguileo | tosky: the next release will be specific for Train, and will not work with Stein (we could make it compatible if we wanted though) | 16:23 |
| geguileo | tosky: I think v0.9 works at least up to Queens, though I haven't tested it in a long while | 16:23 |
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| geguileo | it's the next release where we are going to constraint it to just run with the current release | 16:24 |
| geguileo | since we are changing the release model | 16:24 |
| tosky | geguileo: uhm, but then it means that I need some conditionals anyway: checkout v0.9 for queens (as long as it lives), rocky and stein; use the appropriate branch from train; ignore on pike (if we still run jobs there) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I would say, let's just test with train onwards. | 16:25 |
| geguileo | tosky: yeah, you can try using v0.9 for anything prior to train and the corresponding branch otherwise | 16:25 |
| geguileo | tosky: smcginnis proposal is another option | 16:26 |
| geguileo | It can make sense if it makes your life easier | 16:26 |
| tosky | I can implement either, just let me know which is the correct one :) | 16:26 |
| geguileo | tosky: if it's the same to you, I'd like to see it run in stein as well | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | I think stein was really to get some things in place and get things going. I think our public stance should be that the Train or later version is really what folks should use. But I'll defer to whatever geguileo wants. | 16:27 |
| rosmaita | eharney e0ne smcginnis jungleboyj geguileo (that is, cinder-stable-maint): | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | final release from stable/queens has to happen this week | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | we are ready except for one patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/644959/1 | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | i just -2'd it, but am open to other opinions | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | so please look at it today if you can, if we decide it should go in the release, we need to get it approved and merged tomorrow | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | eharney e0ne smcginnis jungleboyj geguileo: ^^ | 16:28 |
| geguileo | tosky: oh, one thing that complicates it even more... drivers are not required to work with cinderlib... it is optional | 16:29 |
| tosky | geguileo: does it mean that the functional tests can fail? | 16:29 |
| * tosky puzzled | 16:29 | |
| geguileo | tosky: yup | 16:29 |
| geguileo | tosky: because drivers do all kind of weird stuff in there | 16:29 |
| tosky | but how is that connected with the branch? | 16:30 |
| geguileo | that they should now, but that was OK a long time ago | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: That makes sense to me. We can always backport it later if needed, then the people that want it can pick it up. | 16:30 |
| geguileo | tosky: it's not | 16:30 |
| geguileo | and it is | 16:30 |
| geguileo | because there are 2 ways to get cinderlib support | 16:31 |
| geguileo | modify the driver, or make cinderlib support it | 16:31 |
| geguileo | tosky: example: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648212/ | 16:31 |
| geguileo | ^ that goes into train, so in stein IBM SVC is not supported by cinderlib | 16:31 |
| tosky | geguileo: but if I use cinderlib v0.9 for stein, it should work as it is working now | 16:32 |
| geguileo | tosky: yes | 16:32 |
| tosky | and future versions are branched, so they should continue to work against the version they have been branched against | 16:32 |
| geguileo | yes | 16:32 |
| tosky | so it shouldn't really an issue when I implement the job | 16:33 |
| tosky | trying to summarize: no testing against (pike,) queens and rocky, and it won't ever be required, never ever; v0.9 for stein; the appropriate branch from anything newer | 16:34 |
| tosky | can I consider that as the final decision (expecially the "never ever" part)? | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: rosmaita I agree with your analysis. | 16:34 |
| geguileo | tosky: yup | 16:35 |
| tosky | geguileo: oki, thanks | 16:35 |
| geguileo | tosky: remember that cinderlib branch may not exist until 3 months after the cinder stable branch is created | 16:35 |
| tosky | geguileo: there is zuul magic; it fallbacks to master | 16:35 |
| geguileo | tosky: awesome!!! | 16:35 |
| tosky | but I need to blacklist the older versions | 16:35 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: jungleboyj: great, i will wait to remove my -1 from the release patch to give everyone else time to take a look, in case someone has a really good argument, but looks like we'll be all ready to go | 16:35 |
| geguileo | I was afraid it would make your life harder | 16:35 |
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| woojay | morning, is there a simple way to make sure cinder runs w/ python 3, not on a devstack but on a full installation? | 17:10 |
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| clarkb | you can do `python3 /path/to/executable` | 17:12 |
| woojay | Sounds good. Wasn't sure if there's any setting in cinder.conf or like that. Thank you. | 17:14 |
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| clarkb | the other method people have suggested is compltely removing python2 | 17:15 |
| woojay | that's my next step. 8-) | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder master: Remove Oracle ZFSSA drivers https://review.opendev.org/690137 | 17:24 |
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