Wednesday, 2026-06-10

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opendevreviewFernando Ferraz proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Run Cinder's Backup service in native threads  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/97785112:50
opendevreviewFernando Ferraz proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Run Ceph Backup driver in native threads  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/97801312:50
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hemnahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/215635913:49
hemnaworking on a fix for that ^^13:49
hemnacausing excessive DB load fetching empty rows for a table that will always be empty13:49
rosmaitaCinder meeting in #openstack-cinder at 1400 UTC14:01
rosmaitajungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney jbernard hemna fabiooliveira yuval tobias-urdin adiare happystacker dosaboy hillpd msaravan sp-bmilanov Luzi sfernand simondodsley  zaubea nileshthathagar flelain wizardbit agalica lutimura kaisers aloke_dev Anoop_Shukla erlon^^14:01
rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:02
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jun 10 14:02:21 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:02
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rosmaita#topic roll call14:02
VolodymyrBoiko[m]o/14:02
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rosmaita(Jon will be delayed today ... i am in a meeting that is just ending, so we'll start around 14:07 utc)14:04
rosmaitaok, hello everyone, let's get started14:07
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-hibiscus-meetings14:08
rosmaita#topic announcements14:08
rosmaitaonly announcement is that the periodic weekly jobs for client and brick-cinderclient-ext are all green this week14:09
rosmaitahooray!14:09
rosmaitaanyone else have something to share?14:09
rosmaitaapparently not14:11
rosmaitaon to the main topics14:11
rosmaita#topic midcycle followup14:11
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-hibiscus-midcycles14:12
rosmaitaone important followup is for vendor driver maintainers who may have missed the meeting last week14:12
rosmaitawe agreed on some deadlines for new drivers14:13
opendevreviewWalt proposed openstack/cinder master: db: Remove deprecated attachment_specs table  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99266714:13
rosmaitafirst, the third-party CI must be working by July 314:13
rosmaitaalso, as a reminder, you need to have CI for all supported protocols: for example, iSCSI, FC, NVME-tcp, NVME-RDMA, whatever14:13
rosmaitathe second deadline is for the driver code14:14
rosmaitait must be merged by July 2414:14
rosmaitathat's all for new drivers14:15
rosmaitaany questions?14:15
rosmaitasounds like no questions14:16
hemnawhy is the sky blue ?14:16
hemna:P14:16
rosmaitait has to do with light scattering properties and nitrogen in the atmosphere, i think14:16
rosmaitaanother item to take a look at if you weren't at the midcycle is the "community feedback needed" section14:17
rosmaitastarts around line 79 in the etherpad14:17
rosmaitahttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-hibiscus-midcycles14:17
rosmaitaalso, we had a discussion about adding a bug template to Launchpad to remind reporters what details are helpful for triaging14:18
rosmaitaAmit has posted a template for comments:14:19
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99202614:19
rosmaitaif you want to see what the template will look like in real life14:19
rosmaitayou can start to file a bug for nova14:20
rosmaitathey use a similar template14:20
rosmaitajust don't actually file the bug, though, unless it's for real14:20
auniyalyep its mostly taken from nova14:21
rosmaitathanks for proposing it!14:22
rosmaitaanyone else have anything they want to mention about the midcycle?14:22
rosmaitaok, sounds like that topic is exhausted14:25
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:25
rosmaitaok, now is your chance to talk about anything else cinder-related14:25
hemnaanyone had a chance to take a look at my work on the cinder graceful shutdown ?14:26
rosmaitai personally have not, though it sounds like a good idea14:27
hemnaI'm going to upgrade to epoxy here in a few weeks and then deploy that graceful shutdown in my deployments.  I've done a lot of testing against antelope in my qa environment verifying that in flight operations complete14:27
rosmaitanice14:28
hemnawe have k8s in front of cinder and I have a max grace period of 900s for each pod (cinder volume + other sidecars)14:28
hemnait allows the running pod to go into a state that lets it complete tasks and yet not allow new rpc calls into it.  it allows rpc calls out14:28
hemnaI also have another patch to add an "action_track" debug logs, which allows you to see the high level actions being taking on resources.   I use that in production for all of my deployments (SAP)14:29
hemnawith that logging in place, I can see realtime operations ongoing in the api, volume pods with a web ui I built to keep an eye on what's going on 14:31
rosmaitathose sound like useful improvements for operators14:31
hemnaIf anyone is interested I can give a demo on it, as long as it's not recorded..14:32
hemnaquality of life improvements for operators.  14:33
rosmaitadefinitely14:34
erlonsounds nice, do you have links?14:34
hemnajust the reviews.  I can't really share the live viewport into the ui tool I made.  production customer volumes, etc.14:34
erlonah yes, the reviews14:35
hemnahttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/87989514:35
rosmaitahemna: why don't you ask again next week to see if there's interest in a demo, would give people not here a chance to read the meeting logs14:36
rosmaitai think there will be some interest14:36
rosmaitaand i don't see a problem with not recording14:37
hemnahttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/98983614:37
hemnalooks like I have a zuul issue to fix for the graceful shutdown.  I'll get to that, but give it a look see.14:39
hemnaalso, I just posted a bug and fix for a very very old deprecation issue for the attachment_specs table.14:39
hemnathat was deprecated in 201714:39
rosmaitaguess it's ripe for removal now14:40
hemnaheh yah.  we have a very very busy deployment and it's causing lots of useless db round trips. like 100/second just to fetch an empty table.14:40
rosmaitathanks for addressing that14:41
rosmaitalast call for open discussion ... anyone else?14:42
hemnanp14:42
raghavendrathi14:42
raghavendratWe’ve addressed the review comments on the HPE Alletra MP driver patches:14:42
raghavendrathttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/96937314:42
raghavendrathttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/97432214:42
raghavendratThe +2 on the requirements patch got removed — requesting reviewers to kindly re-vote.14:42
raghavendratAppreciate all the feedback received so far. Thank you.14:42
rosmaitalooks like the requirements patch failed the cross-nova job, though i can't imagine the failure has anything to do with your patch14:45
raghavendratok14:45
rosmaitaall right, if there's nothing else to talk about, we might as well end early14:47
rosmaitathanks everyone, see you next week14:48
raghavendratthanks14:48
rosmaita#endmeeting14:48
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opendevreviewMarkus Hentsch proposed openstack/cinder master: Adopt image encryption standardization  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/92629814:49
opendevreviewEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder master: Bump mypy to 2.0  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99029115:14
opendevreviewMerged openstack/cinder master: Remove eventlet import from backup API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99167415:21
opendevreviewEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder master: Get unit tests to run (db fixes)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/98140715:30
opendevreviewFernando Ferraz proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP: Run Cinder's Backup service in native threads  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/97785115:30
opendevreviewEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder-tempest-plugin master: Add mypy tox env  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-tempest-plugin/+/94988515:36
hemnaalso, this is a big one causing performance issues for us too.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99187616:03
hemnamissing index on quotas table, inducing full table scans16:03
opendevreviewStephen Finucane proposed openstack/cinder master: api-ref: Add missing is_public filter for GET /groups_types  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/99271616:29
stephenfinthat's a ridiculously easy api-ref fix if anyone has time ☝️16:32
jbernardstephenfin: ^ change looks good, a quick release note would be good if you have a chance to update17:15
opendevreviewJon Bernard proposed openstack/cinder master: Replace eventlet sleep calls in volume drivers  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/95069518:22
stephenfinjbernard: I replied to hemna but do you do release notes for api-ref changes? They're (a) docs and (b) unversioned, unlike release notes22:13
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jbernardstephenfin: you're right, historically we haven't23:53

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