| opendevreview | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1007399 | 03:48 |
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| opendevreview | Fuli Qi proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Add spec for retype volume including snapshots https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/989322 | 04:10 |
| opendevreview | Juan Larriba proposed openstack/cinder master: Add OpenTelemetry tracing middleware for Cinder https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1007754 | 07:52 |
| tkajinam | wondering if anyone is aware that cinder-tempest-plugin-multi-ceph-replication is quite unstable | 09:46 |
| tkajinam | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=cinder-tempest-plugin-multi-ceph-replication&project=openstack/cinder-tempest-plugin | 09:46 |
| opendevreview | Jyotsna Lothe proposed openstack/cinder master: HPE AlletraMP driver : Online clone synchronous wait for copy, increases bulk VM provisioning time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008049 | 11:22 |
| opendevreview | Jyotsna Lothe proposed openstack/cinder master: HPE AlletraMP driver : Online clone synchronous wait for copy, increases bulk VM provisioning time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008049 | 11:23 |
| opendevreview | Harsh Ailani proposed openstack/cinder master: [IBM SVf Driver] Enabled support to retype ‘iogrp’ of an ‘in-use’ volume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/912060 | 11:44 |
| opendevreview | Medha Choudhary netapp proposed openstack/cinder master: NetApp: Use REST for CG failover target selection https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008054 | 12:20 |
| opendevreview | Medha Choudhary netapp proposed openstack/cinder master: NetApp: Use REST for CG failover target selection https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008054 | 12:22 |
| Uggla | rosmaita, mhen X session Cinder-Nova : Tuesday 15:00UTC-16:00UTC (Nova hosting --> Mitaka room) does it work for you ? | 12:49 |
| mhen | Uggla: works for me | 12:52 |
| rosmaita | Uggla: should be ok | 12:53 |
| Uggla | rosmaita, mhen, cool so deal. | 12:54 |
| rosmaita | Cinder meeting in #openstack-cinder at 1400 UTC | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney jbernard hemna fabiooliveira yuval tobias-urdin adiare happystacker dosaboy hillpd msaravan sp-bmilanov Luzi sfernand simondodsley zaubea nileshthathagar flelain wizardbit agalica lutimura kaisers aloke_dev Anoop_Shukla erlon Jyotsna | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Sep 30 14:00:26 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| simondodsley | o/ | 14:00 |
| Jyotsna | o/ | 14:00 |
| hvlcchao1 | o/ | 14:01 |
| fqi | o/ | 14:01 |
| harsh | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | ok, guess we better get started | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | actually i guess i should give you a link for the agenda | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-hibiscus-meetings | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | ok, the Hibiscus release happened earlier today | 14:05 |
| erlon | \o | 14:05 |
| auniyal | \o/ | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | thank you to everyone who participated by contributing code, doing reviews, etc | 14:06 |
| auniyal | nice | 14:06 |
| simondodsley | and the wheel turns again... | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | enjoy celebrating for the rest of the day | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | because the Indri cycle begins tomorrow | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | so, next week we will have a new agenda etherpad | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-indri-meetings | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | and just so you have a link to it, the overall Indri release schedule is here: | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | #link https://releases.openstack.org/indri/schedule.html | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the final announcement is that the virtual Project Team Gathering (PTG) is in 2 weeks | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | we will most likely be meeting tuesday through friday | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | if there is something you would like to discuss, please add a topic to the planning etherpad | 14:09 |
| agalica | o7 | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-indri-ptg-planning | 14:09 |
| simondodsley | i'm not available on the Tuesday, so don't put any of my topics then... | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | good point, if you have scheduling constraints, mention it along with your topic | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | (on the planning etherpad) | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | the PTG is monday through friday, but we traditionally leave monday open because there are usually topics of general interest scheduled then | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ok, we have 3 cross project proposals proposed so far | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | with nova, ironic, and manila | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | the nova one is already scheduled for tuesday 13 oct at 1500 UTC | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | that's all for announcements | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | #topic NFS volume encryption | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | so, this is the subject of the cross-project meeting with Nova | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | something that has come up is that cinder front-end encryption for NFS type drivers has not been completely implemented | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | so part of the discussion is what to do about that | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | and, what we decide will depend in large part on what the drivers who inherit from remotefs driver want to do | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | some of these may use backend-encryption instead and not care about front-end encryption | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i don't know | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | here's a quick list of drivers that are affected: | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ibm/gpfs | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | quobyte | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | vzstorage | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | netapp/dataontap | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | nexenta | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | veritas | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | vmstore | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | that's an incomplete list because I think at least DellEMC has a driver that supports NFS | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | you can look at mhen's topic on the planning etherpad to get some more details about the issue | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | so please take a look, and if you know anyone who works on any of the listed drivers, please give them a nudge | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i guess i should be clear about what I mean by "decide what to do" | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | one option is to just disallow cinder front-end encryption for any of the remotefs-based drivers | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | that would obviously require the least work | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | so my point here is that if we are going to finish implementing front-end encryption for this class of drivers | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | we need to know that someone actually wants it | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | and we will need some people to work on it | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | any questions? | 14:21 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: Stop depending on Python packages storpool and storpool.spopenstack https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/973591 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: StorPool: Do not use the option 'storpool_replication' when creating or retyping volumes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/973592 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: StorPool: Use only baseOn when cloning a volume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/973593 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: StorPool: Add the storpool_qos option and deprecate the storpool_template one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/973594 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: StorPool: Remove the storpool_template option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/973595 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Biser Milanov proposed openstack/cinder master: Add iSCSI export support to the StorPool driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/847536 | 14:22 |
| mhen | I think if we decide we want front-end encryption we need to decide between qcow2-wrapped LUKS and raw LUKS as a next step, right? | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | well, that will be part of the discussion ... because of the way the nfs-based drivers work, i think we have to support qcow2-wrapped luks if we are going to support front-end encryption | 14:23 |
| eharney | i think the decision for generic NFS is more likely qcow2+luks encryption or no encryption | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | eharney: ++ | 14:24 |
| eharney | for other drivers, raw LUKS might be an option | 14:25 |
| mhen | other drivers do use raw LUKS afaict | 14:25 |
| mhen | (non-remotefs-based ones) | 14:25 |
| eharney | other NFS drivers i mean (i.e. those managing snapshots on the backend) | 14:25 |
| mhen | gotcha | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | do we have anyone here who represents a driver that inherits from remotefs? | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | apparently not | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | guess i need to send something to the ML about this | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | because if nobody wants it, it's an easy decision! | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | ok, speaking of the ML | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i just realized that the first Friday of October will occur in 2 days | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | and i think everyone knows what that means | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | Festival of Reviews! | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | so, please mark your calendar and attend | 14:30 |
| hong-p[m] | Hi, I have some topics we’d like to discuss at the vPTG. I’ll add it to the Etherpad soon. Is there a deadline for submitting topics? | 14:30 |
| simondodsley | i would - but i'll be on a flight over the Atlantic | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | hong-p[m]: let's say Oct 7 as the deadline | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | but for cross-project proposals, please get them in as soon as possible, because they are more difficult to schedule | 14:31 |
| opendevreview | Simon Dodsley proposed openstack/cinder master: Everpure: report the backend as an explicit single pool https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008073 | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:33 |
| fqi | The cinder-spec for "retype volume including snapshots" has been updated. I would appreciate it if you could review it. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/989322 | 14:33 |
| hong-p[m] | Got it thanks | 14:34 |
| Jyotsna | we have 3 patches on priority: 1) HPE Alletra MP: Improved failover/failback with Active PP support - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1001152 (zuul +1 & CIs passed) | 14:34 |
| Jyotsna | 2)HPE Alletra MP: Improved host proximity for ActivePP support - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1001281 (Zuul +1 CI passed and Code Review +1) | 14:34 |
| opendevreview | Simon Dodsley proposed openstack/cinder master: Everpure: report the backend as an explicit single pool https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008073 | 14:34 |
| Jyotsna | 3)HPE Alletra MP: Online clone synchronous wait for copy - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008049 (CIs passed, zuul yet to confirm the results) We addressed all the feedback on CI and can be confirmed on this PR. | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, anyone with some bandwidth, please take a look at Jyotsna's patches | 14:36 |
| Jyotsna | <rosmaita> Just to confirm now further merges will go to Indri? When it will be starting? | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | officially indri starts tomorrow, but the master branch became indri development maybe two weeks ago | 14:37 |
| agalica | simondodsley: that's no excuse, use the plane's internet | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | (when the stable/2026.2 branch was cut) | 14:37 |
| agalica | :P | 14:37 |
| simondodsley | i'd rather sleep - sorry | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | continuing the open discussion ... eharney has a request for data | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | which third-party CIs run ssh_utils (drivers using ssh to backend)? | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1004920 | 14:39 |
| Jyotsna | HPE CI don't use ssh | 14:39 |
| auniyal | I guess this should also be a ML question, as not everyone joins here | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | good point ... i hope those people read the ML! | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | or at least the meeting logs | 14:40 |
| Jyotsna | Anyway, we can also contribute to reviews and join review meeting? please let us know. New to the review contribution and need some guidance | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | Jyotsna: yes, you can! | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | a good start would be to join the Festival of Reviews on Friday if you can | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-festival-of-reviews | 14:42 |
| Jyotsna | any link where i can join? | 14:42 |
| Jyotsna | ok thanks | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | and if you want some general review guidance, this is a helpful link | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | #link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/review-the-openstack-way.html | 14:42 |
| Jyotsna | ok | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | and i think Rajat wrote up a cinder-specific guide that is somewhere in the cinder docs | 14:43 |
| Jyotsna | sure | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | #link https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/contributor/gerrit.html#efficient-review-guidelines | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | ok, back to eharney's question so we have info here in case people read the meeting logs | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | there's a patch up to remove eventlet from ssh_utils | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1004920 | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | we don't have any community drivers that are tested in the gate that use ssh_utils | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | but we know that some drivers do use ssh_utils | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | so, it would be good for such drivers to test out eharney's patch | 14:46 |
| eharney | there are definitely a handful of drivers using it, but i didn't spot any reporting on that review yet -- maybe i need to dig around and poke people to make sure we get CI runs | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | right, the situation is basically, if the patch looks reasonable and passes zuul, we will merge it because we need to remove eventlet usage | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | we would prefer to merge it knowing that it's not going to break people down the line | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | but, if we don't hear from anyone, we will merge it | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | and anyone broken will have to deal with it then, which would suck, because it will happen at an inconvenient time (doesn't it always?) | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok, i guess that topic is clear | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | ok, we can end early to celebrate the Hibiscus release | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | please join me in lifting a virtual glass of champagne to jbernard, who has been our fearless leader for the past five (!!) cycles | 14:51 |
| eharney | jbernard++ | 14:52 |
| agalica | ++jbernard | 14:52 |
| auniyal | 🍻 jbernard++ | 14:53 |
| eduardomorais[m] | jbernard++ | 14:53 |
| agalica | jbernard += 1 | 14:53 |
| fqi | jbernard++ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | ok, see you at the Festival of Reviews on Friday | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | #dndmeeting | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | or, how about | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Sep 30 14:56:48 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2026/cinder.2026-09-30-14.00.html | 14:56 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2026/cinder.2026-09-30-14.00.txt | 14:56 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2026/cinder.2026-09-30-14.00.log.html | 14:56 |
| opendevreview | jayaanand borra proposed openstack/cinder master: Implement per-pool image-volume cache promotion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/988315 | 15:13 |
| jbernard | thanks all! | 15:17 |
| opendevreview | Walt proposed openstack/cinder master: db: soft-delete snapshot metadata on cascade volume destroy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/1008099 | 17:03 |
| opendevreview | minwoo seo proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Add spec for cinder-manage image-cache subcommand https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/986741 | 19:16 |
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