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| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to stackforge/climate: Port to oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/57880 | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/climate: lease_create now raises InvalidDate exception https://review.openstack.org/71631 | 08:48 |
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| bauzas | DinaBelova: about SchedulerService, you there ? | 09:57 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: I think it would be worth it keeping for this BP : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/ha-manager | 10:00 |
| bauzas | because IMHO the scheduler should be a separate service | 10:00 |
| bauzas | that's currently dead code, so there are 2 choices : | 10:01 |
| bauzas | 1. either we keep it for future work on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/ha-manager | 10:01 |
| bauzas | 2. or we remove it and we recreate it later on ? | 10:01 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: what is your preference ? | 10:01 |
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| DinaBelova | I think we may keep it as is | 10:19 |
| DinaBelova | I think we may keep it as is :? | 10:19 |
| DinaBelova | if we'll use this code - great | 10:19 |
| DinaBelova | if not - I'll remove it while working on ha mechanism | 10:19 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: I'm just submitting a patch for removing it | 10:20 |
| bauzas | it would anyway require to move to oslo.messaging | 10:21 |
| bauzas | so, let's go with option #2 | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | ok, I'm ok with that | 10:21 |
| bauzas | and recreate it within the HA bp | 10:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed a change to stackforge/climate: Remove old Scheduler RPC Service https://review.openstack.org/72612 | 10:21 |
| bauzas | nice synchronization :) | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 10:22 |
| bauzas | it was submitted 2 mins ago... :D | 10:22 |
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| DinaBelova | bauzas, also I wanted to speak about summit talks | 10:51 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: sure | 10:51 |
| DinaBelova | now we're thinking about two of them | 10:51 |
| bauzas | yep, I thought about it | 10:52 |
| DinaBelova | are you sure we should divide our Climate forces? | 10:52 |
| bauzas | one talk is risky | 10:52 |
| bauzas | unless you think we have a good chance to get it | 10:52 |
| bauzas | and I think there can be 2 different audiences | 10:52 |
| DinaBelova | I mean maybe it'll be better to have one talk, but we'll have more voices for it? I mean having two of them - we may have not enough voices on both | 10:52 |
| bauzas | one technical or one more IT general | 10:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, DinaBelova, I see you speaking about Climate talks proposals for Juno sumit | 10:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 10:53 |
| bauzas | well, if voting is like for HK, that's a rolling proposal | 10:53 |
| bauzas | so, unless you got huge fans in Mirantis, 2 talks are better than one ;) :D | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, yep but I can't get your 'Juno' word | 10:54 |
| bauzas | Atlanta will be the Juno summit :) | 10:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | J release cycle name :) | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | ah :) | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | yep | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | sure | 10:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO, having one joined talk is increasing the chance to be selected for summit | 10:54 |
| bauzas | Juno will be in May :) | 10:54 |
| bauzas | :p | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | :D:D:D | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | yep, that's confusing for me :) | 10:54 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: do you think so ? | 10:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, yup | 10:55 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I have to admit I'm not an expert for this | 10:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let me share my concerns about separation | 10:55 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: sure | 10:55 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, please, yes | 10:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | first of all, you have only several tracks to propose your talks | 10:55 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I was basically thinking that proposing more talks would increase our chances to at least get one | 10:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and if two talks will be in one track - than 100% only one will be selected | 10:55 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: that's why we're proposing 2 talks on different tracks | 10:56 |
| bauzas | see the gdoc | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/1EsacsG-AgaM67SH4J_zoPUI7N77-5_7cOnMFQFgLVgQ/edit | 10:56 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's guaranteed that talks will not be reassigned ;) | 10:56 |
| bauzas | yay | 10:56 |
| bauzas | just removed the Operations track for the first talk, in order to be clear | 10:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and IMO it's better to send proposal to several tracks | 10:57 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: see the gdoc | 10:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the next concern is that it's better to have a talk with several folks from several companies with cool interesting proposal | 10:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and w/o technical details | 10:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | to overview project, goals, status and roadmap | 10:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | show demo | 10:57 |
| bauzas | that's exactly why we propose the first talk | 10:57 |
| DinaBelova | except demo thing :? | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and continue on designed summit / unconference | 10:58 |
| DinaBelova | we're not sure here | 10:58 |
| bauzas | well, the demo thing can be discussed | 10:58 |
| bauzas | I'm not con | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll propose talk for savanna w/o demo | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | just status, overview, etc. | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | with two folks from RH and HWX | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it adds great visibility for the talk | 10:58 |
| bauzas | yay | 10:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and IMO all developers will be on design summit | 10:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, you should target mostly for non-devs | 10:59 |
| DinaBelova | that's true.... | 10:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and if you'd like to catch devs or share tech details - unconference is your choise | 10:59 |
| DinaBelova | last summit all devs were on design summits | 10:59 |
| DinaBelova | and on unconference thing | 11:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | this time we'll have onle one (!!) day w/o design summit | 11:00 |
| bauzas | well, the ideal would be to get some timeslots on design summit | 11:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and it'll be full of keynotes | 11:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/ | 11:00 |
| bauzas | yay | 11:00 |
| bauzas | but don't you think a talk for operators would make sense ? | 11:00 |
| bauzas | I was thinking of 2 audiences | 11:01 |
| bauzas | 1. IT managers and people willing to know what's in the ecosystem | 11:01 |
| bauzas | 2. Openstack operators wanting to know how to better manage their systems | 11:01 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I suppose SergeyLukjanov is trying to say that for 2nd audience it'll be better to catch them somewhere else | 11:01 |
| bauzas | operators won't be at the design summit | 11:02 |
| bauzas | that's a different audience from savannah | 11:02 |
| DinaBelova | but I suppose they'll go to 1. | 11:02 |
| bauzas | Climate is also planned to be some tool for operations | 11:02 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, don't name Savanna as Savannah :D | 11:02 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: uh, shame on it | 11:02 |
| DinaBelova | Sergey does not love it :) | 11:02 |
| bauzas | anyway, Savanna will be renamed :p | 11:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | due to the renaming, I'm ok with any :) | 11:03 |
| bauzas | ok, S-the-one-whose-name-shouldn't-be-pronounced | 11:03 |
| bauzas | then | 11:03 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, I'm confused now about summit abstracts... For me one talk looks better, but I see you, Sylvain, don't really like it | 11:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, I think that it could be ok to propose two talks in following manner - main talk with you and Dina proposed to all relevant tracks excluding operators and one more talk with you and Dina about usecases for operators but only for operators track to avoid overlaps between talks | 11:04 |
| bauzas | so, if we do one talk, that means that in 40 mins, we have to go thru all the concepts, features, tools and provide a demo | 11:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but IMO one talk is better | 11:04 |
| bauzas | that would be though | 11:04 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: well, I do truly understand your thoughts | 11:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw ops track is overloaded AFAIK | 11:05 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: so, the question is : do we think 40 mins is enough for it ? | 11:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, IMO demo should be 5-10 mins, and then you have 20-25 mins for status update and goals | 11:06 |
| bauzas | and (again), do we have a good confidence on the fact we would get selected ? | 11:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | that's enough to talk about nova :) | 11:06 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: well, OK | 11:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, what does you mean? "do we have a good confidence on the fact we would get selected ?" | 11:06 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I also know about Operations, this track is really overloaded | 11:06 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, SergeyLukjanov, I suppose we may have one theoretical talk if it would be no time for demo + unconference demo | 11:06 |
| bauzas | if we put all our chances into one ticket, is it a winning ticket ? | 11:06 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, nobody can be sure here... | 11:07 |
| DinaBelova | even with two ones | 11:07 |
| DinaBelova | cause here community votes... | 11:07 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: that's the only reason why I think that 2 is better than 1, because you have 2 chances | 11:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, IMO it'll have more chances than several topics, but it just my thoughts ;) | 11:07 |
| bauzas | well, I'm torn | 11:07 |
| bauzas | that's like betting at poker | 11:08 |
| DinaBelova | they can give more votes to one than two with more probability, than with two looking like each other topics | 11:08 |
| DinaBelova | cause when people see two looking like each other talks with same Climate name in it | 11:08 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: SergeyLukjanov: well, OK, I'm really a bad poker player | 11:08 |
| DinaBelova | I think they'll choose | 11:08 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 11:08 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: SergeyLukjanov: OK for putting all our eggs into one basket :) | 11:09 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so we're thinking about one really nice talk | 11:09 |
| DinaBelova | and we'll try to do everything | 11:09 |
| DinaBelova | for choosing that | 11:09 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 11:09 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I really understand your opinion | 11:10 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: ok, so we need to amend a little bit the talk | 11:10 |
| bauzas | the abstract sorry | 11:10 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: if you have chance to review the proposal, that would be great :) | 11:10 |
| DinaBelova | ok, I'll add some info about demo there | 11:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, DinaBelova, I'll take a look later today | 11:11 |
| DinaBelova | but abstract one - to get rid of it, if there will be no time for it | 11:11 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 11:11 |
| DinaBelova | + I'll give that link to our marketing group | 11:11 |
| DinaBelova | they'll take a look on it | 11:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | you could always skip the demo if you have no time for it or show short video recording | 11:11 |
| DinaBelova | +1 | 11:11 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: yay | 11:12 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I like the idea (again), I'm just stressed that's it ;) | 11:12 |
| bauzas | at the moment, we only need to provide an abstract | 11:12 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, sure | 11:13 |
| bauzas | enough sexy to be elected | 11:13 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 11:13 |
| bauzas | that's it | 11:13 |
| bauzas | but yay, I think we need to split our talk into pieces so that we can have enough time and confidence for the talk | 11:13 |
| bauzas | and Q&A | 11:13 |
| DinaBelova | sure, as it should be done anyway :) | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Taraday proposed a change to stackforge/climate: Remove direct assignments of context attributes https://review.openstack.org/72673 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Martinez proposed a change to stackforge/climate: Modifying coverage tox.ini configuration https://review.openstack.org/72674 | 15:11 |
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| casanch1 | hi, I have made some comments on the whiteboard of this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/notifications | 15:20 |
| casanch1 | could you please take a look? | 15:20 |
| bauzas | casanch1: sure, will do | 15:25 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: there is a thread about SolverScheduler I really think you should take a look on it | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova | casanch1, bauzas - ok | 15:26 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: because that's talking about reservations... | 15:26 |
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