| adrian_otto | yes, that's a hard problem | 00:00 |
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| jogo | I just think our development model, in the specific instantiation has reached its limit | 00:00 |
| adrian_otto | but it exists regardless if the projects are in an integrated release or not. The problem just moves to the operator for the ones that are not integrated. | 00:00 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: well I think that depends | 00:01 |
| jogo | if we decouple development a little bit more, we solve the complexity issue a bit | 00:01 |
| jogo | anyway I rambling at this point | 00:02 |
| adrian_otto | jogo: do we have a way to know how many OpenStack developers focus like 90% of their time on a single project? | 00:02 |
| jogo | another place where we are very limited is people trying to solve these cross project issues | 00:02 |
| apmelton | I think it's just getting late jogo :P | 00:02 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: not that I know of why? | 00:02 |
| jogo | apmelton: yup | 00:02 |
| adrian_otto | hummm. | 00:02 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: I do nova + cross project | 00:03 |
| jogo | nova + gate | 00:03 |
| adrian_otto | I'm just thinking through understanding the nature of our problem. I am persuaded by the N^2 concern. | 00:03 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: excellent, we can use more smart people on this problem | 00:03 |
| adrian_otto | I want to stew on this for a bit | 00:04 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: great, a set of fresh eyes is always good | 00:04 |
| adrian_otto | let's think of ways to continue bouncing these concerns around | 00:04 |
| apmelton | I am starting to see where you're coming from jogo | 00:04 |
| adrian_otto | maybe an IRC chat for a couple of days in a row is good | 00:04 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: definitely | 00:04 |
| adrian_otto | or maybe we can think of something better | 00:04 |
| apmelton | it would be nice if we could be tightly coupled and offer a all-in-one experience, but that's just not sustainable | 00:05 |
| adrian_otto | but I'm open to understanding each concern | 00:05 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: lets chat further tomorrow | 00:05 |
| jogo | I look forward to hearing your thoughts | 00:05 |
| adrian_otto | and although that may not totally reverse our course, it may help steer us | 00:05 |
| jogo | neato | 00:06 |
| adrian_otto | ok, cool. I will keep thinking about it, and we'll continue when convenient. | 00:06 |
| adrian_otto | Fridays are usually really good days for me, lots of open gaps. | 00:06 |
| jogo | adrian_otto apmelton: its been a productive chat | 00:06 |
| apmelton | definitely | 00:06 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: sounds good lets chat friday then | 00:06 |
| jogo | adding a reminder to my calendar | 00:06 |
| adrian_otto | cool, thanks Joe | 00:06 |
| apmelton | friday works for me, I'm gonna be swamped tomorrow | 00:06 |
| apmelton | jogo, one quick thing | 00:07 |
| apmelton | back at the mid-cycle, I think it was you who mentioned you could help get us started gating on libvirt-lxc? | 00:07 |
| jogo | apmelton: ahh yes I did | 00:07 |
| jogo | just poke me in nova and I can help | 00:07 |
| jogo | #openstack-nova | 00:07 |
| apmelton | sounds good, we're getting close, just dealing with some bugs | 00:08 |
| apmelton | trying to get them out of the way before opening the flood gates | 00:08 |
| jogo | apmelton: nice | 00:08 |
| apmelton | alright y'all | 00:08 |
| apmelton | have a great evening | 00:08 |
| jogo | o/ you too | 00:08 |
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| diga | @Adrian_otto | 17:50 |
| diga | I read about the PECAN + WSME framework | 17:50 |
| diga | now I am working on the base api framework implementation | 17:50 |
| adrian_otto | awesome! | 17:52 |
| adrian_otto | I am busy trying to get a repo ready for you to land this in. | 17:52 |
| diga | yes | 17:53 |
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| adrian_otto | new etherpad for API planning is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-containers-service-api | 18:10 |
| diga | Good one | 18:12 |
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