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| tobe | Hi all, I'm big fan of OpenStack and container. I'm new to magnum and could like to ask a few question about its design | 01:00 |
| tobe | Magnum build CaaS upon OpenStack. Will it manage anything about container in OpenStack? | 01:02 |
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| tobe | I mean we're willing to implement the services like Aws Elastic Beanstall or Lambda, container is the important component of them. Can magnum provide the basic management for them? | 01:04 |
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| tobe | Actually, I don't know the major difference of CaaS and PaaS. Magnum implements the multi-tenant CaaS. Can we use it to implement the so called "private CaaS" that all containers run in user's virtual machines? | 01:06 |
| tobe | That's my question about magnum and I'm really willing to make a contribution for that :-) | 01:07 |
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| madhuri | Hi tobe | 01:24 |
| madhuri | You mean containers on user vm not on Openstack vms? | 01:25 |
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| tobe | Yes, it's like Aws Elastic Beanstalk | 01:27 |
| tobe | The containers run on user's vm and have the better isolation than the global CaaS | 01:28 |
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| tobe | It's one of the requirements. And I'm wondering if magnum can be the infrastructure of OpenStack containers to help to implement these. | 01:29 |
| madhuri | Currently there is no such support in magnum | 01:38 |
| madhuri | tobe, You can draft a blueprint for this | 01:40 |
| madhuri | I am not sure about the use case | 01:40 |
| madhuri | May be as I don't have any idea about Aws Elastic Beanstalk | 01:41 |
| madhuri | lan, around? | 01:41 |
| yuanying | I created blueprint like your suggestion https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-allow-handmade-bay | 01:42 |
| tobe | Thanks madhuri and yuanying. I'm new to the community and will learn to make contribution for magnum :-) | 01:45 |
| madhuri | You are welcome tobe. Feel free to ping us anytime :) | 01:45 |
| tobe | Great! I would like to know about the product of magnum | 01:46 |
| tobe | From official doc, I know it's a CaaS platform upon OpenStack | 01:47 |
| tobe | And will it do more for any service which would like to use container? | 01:47 |
| tobe | Like Aws Lambda which runs the scripts in containers in OpenStack vms | 01:48 |
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| tobe | If magnum could be the best solution to manage containers, I think it would be much easier to implement other product with containers | 01:50 |
| yuanying | Yes I think so | 01:51 |
| tobe | But Lambda is much different from Amazon container service. I hope we could help to explore the best practices :-) | 01:54 |
| lan | madhuri, yes | 01:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Allow container name as identifier in API calls https://review.openstack.org/181990 | 02:00 |
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| tobe | @madhuri @lan Beanstalk is like a private paas which runs in user's ec2. User can deploy their code in Beanstalk without managing the environment. It's different from traditional paas and simplify the usage | 02:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Make docker volume config more resilient https://review.openstack.org/181115 | 02:03 |
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| madhuri | tobe, Thanks for the explanation. You may wait for some others to respond to your queries. | 02:05 |
| madhuri | lan, Have you tries updating a pod? | 02:06 |
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| lan | madhuri, yes , but was few day ago. what's wrong ? | 02:09 |
| madhuri | I can't update it | 02:10 |
| madhuri | Can you paste the command? | 02:10 |
| madhuri | It always fail at apiserver with 400 status | 02:10 |
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| lan | magnum pod-update <pod> replace manifest=<manifest> | 02:12 |
| lan | any error message in conductor log ? | 02:12 |
| madhuri | Can't we do it like magnum pod-update <pod> replace images=[] ? | 02:14 |
| madhuri | Does it support only manifest in path? | 02:15 |
| lan | magnum pod-update <pod> replace images=[] only changed the images field in db IIUC. But I think we can support it. | 02:16 |
| lan | Yes, we can support to pass the manifest path. | 02:16 |
| madhuri | It means only manifest in path request is forwarded to kubernetes. | 02:18 |
| madhuri | Not all | 02:18 |
| madhuri | Right? | 02:18 |
| lan | Yes. | 02:19 |
| madhuri | Hmm this seems to be an issue | 02:19 |
| lan | any requirement to change other fields expect manifest ? | 02:22 |
| lan | Since we only used manifest file to create a pod, then I think we can only update the manifest file to change anything you want , right? | 02:23 |
| madhuri | Yes | 02:24 |
| madhuri | But we can update just passing the patch also | 02:24 |
| madhuri | https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/blob/master/docs/kubectl_update.md | 02:25 |
| madhuri | You can have a look if interested | 02:25 |
| lan | A quick look at this file, seems currently we can't support to pass --patch parameter when update a resource. | 02:29 |
| lan | https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/conductor/handlers/common/kube_utils.py#L56-L59 | 02:29 |
| lan | It should be a new feature ? | 02:30 |
| madhuri | Not new | 02:32 |
| madhuri | But we should be able to update like manifest={} | 02:33 |
| lan | think so , too. But it may be a problem to distinguish "{}" to be a total manifest file or just a patch | 02:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Make MagnumObject a subclass of Oslo VersionedObject https://review.openstack.org/180133 | 02:41 |
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| madhuri | I think we need a discussion on this | 02:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Use oslo.versionedobjects remotable decorators https://review.openstack.org/181853 | 02:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Move VersionedObject registration to the new scheme https://review.openstack.org/180577 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | xu-haiwei proposed openstack/magnum: Keypair_id should be a required option when creating a baymodel https://review.openstack.org/181850 | 03:14 |
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| tobe43 | It seems magnum is started by heat. Can we deploy magnum without using heat? | 09:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/magnum: Added support of Kubernetes API in magnum. https://review.openstack.org/170414 | 10:30 |
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| sdake_ | morning folks | 13:18 |
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| hongbin | morning | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/magnum: Remove dependency on python-kubernetes https://review.openstack.org/182311 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Add support for container status https://review.openstack.org/180384 | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Keypair_id should be a required option when creating a baymodel https://review.openstack.org/181850 | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: [WIP] Utilize baylock for conductor horizontal-scale https://review.openstack.org/172774 | 14:59 |
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| adrian_otto | Reminder: Our team meeting will begin in 15 minutes (1600 UTC) in #openstack-meeting-alt so I look forward to seeing you there! | 15:47 |
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| hongbin | Hi apmelton, are you around? | 17:45 |
| apmelton | hongbin: yes, what's up? | 17:45 |
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| hongbin | I tried the swarm template | 17:45 |
| hongbin | There is an issue | 17:45 |
| hongbin | $ docker -H tcp://172.24.4.14:2376 run -i cirros /bin/ping -c 4 8.8.8.8 | 17:45 |
| hongbin | FATA[0001] Error response from daemon: client and server don't have same version (client : 1.18, server: 1.17) | 17:46 |
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| hongbin | And I am using the new image | 17:46 |
| apmelton | hongbin: that docker -H ... command, is that being run from the devstack host, or from one of the bay's nodes? | 17:46 |
| hongbin | devstack host | 17:47 |
| hongbin | BTW, what is the credential to SSH to the bay node? | 17:47 |
| apmelton | ssh fedora@172.24.4.14 | 17:47 |
| apmelton | hongbin: what you migh try doing is rebooting the instances in the bay, I think what'll happen is when each node brings up it's swarm containers, they'll update to the latest image | 17:48 |
| hongbin | I see, it is fedora (not minion) :) | 17:48 |
| hongbin | K. Will try that | 17:49 |
| hongbin | Thx | 17:49 |
| hongbin | apmelton: Reboot. No luck. | 17:51 |
| apmelton | damn | 17:52 |
| apmelton | I wonder if it's actually conflicting with the docker daemon on the host itself | 17:52 |
| hongbin | From the error message, it looks like it is | 17:52 |
| apmelton | hongbin: can you try doing a "docker -H tcp://172.24.4.14:2376 version" | 17:52 |
| apmelton | and a "docker -H tcp://172.24.4.14:2375 version" | 17:53 |
| hongbin | http://pastie.org/10185103 | 17:53 |
| hongbin | Here is the 2375 one: | 17:55 |
| hongbin | http://pastie.org/10185108 | 17:55 |
| apmelton | yea... hmmmm | 17:56 |
| apmelton | this sadly is going to be a recurring issue | 17:56 |
| hongbin | Need to file a bug report? | 17:57 |
| apmelton | hongbin: were you trying to talk to the swarm daemon directly to debug an issue? | 17:58 |
| hongbin | Kind of | 17:58 |
| apmelton | if you limit your interaction through magnum, you can set docker_remote_api_version=1.17 in the docker group | 17:58 |
| hongbin | I have another error, and try to figure out why | 17:59 |
| hongbin | K. | 17:59 |
| hongbin | I guess I can walk around by SSH into the node | 17:59 |
| apmelton | hongbin: that or downgrade your installed docker version on your devstack host | 18:00 |
| hongbin | I see | 18:00 |
| hongbin | K. Get that. | 18:00 |
| apmelton | hongbin: this highlights a larger issue though, how do we handle upgrades to bay nodes? | 18:01 |
| hongbin | I see. | 18:01 |
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| hongbin | I guess the docker client need the work | 18:02 |
| hongbin | Anyway, I am good to go. Thanks for the help. | 18:03 |
| apmelton | you're welcome hongbin | 18:03 |
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| ewindisch | adrian_otto: ugh, did UTC conversion mess with me today? | 19:54 |
| ewindisch | seems it did :( | 19:55 |
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| adrian_otto | :-) | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Correct a spelling error in quickstart guide. https://review.openstack.org/182463 | 21:36 |
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| jay-lau-513 | #openstak-chinese | 22:12 |
| hongbin | Hi sdake adrian_otto, is there any items that you need ppl to work on? | 22:14 |
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| sdake | hongbin horizontal scale and lbaas support | 22:26 |
| sdake | other then that, I think the rest will be decided at summit | 22:27 |
| hongbin | sdake: I commented on the horizontal scale review | 22:27 |
| sdake | i saw, I wouldn't worry about performance | 22:27 |
| hongbin | The performance is not as expected | 22:27 |
| sdake | the entire point of horizontal scale is to not worry about performance | 22:27 |
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| sdake | what kind of impact? | 22:28 |
| hongbin | The problem is there is no performance gain after scaling | 22:28 |
| hongbin | because the requests are queued on the m-api | 22:28 |
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| hongbin | I could take a look at the lbaas support. | 22:30 |
| hongbin | This one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb ? | 22:31 |
| sdake_ | ya tango is lookign at it | 22:32 |
| sdake_ | hongbin we dont want performance gain, we want the ability to handle more load i think | 22:32 |
| sdake_ | iperhaps the rest api needs to be made threaded or something | 22:33 |
| hongbin | more load means more throughtput? | 22:33 |
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| hongbin | threading is a straightforward solution | 22:33 |
| hongbin | But may need to discuss more. I am not sure | 22:33 |
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