Wednesday, 2015-07-01

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Kennantcammann: I thought it would it have to ignore some tests with tags, but you means igonore py tests(k8s) for py3.0 ?00:17
Kennanor just pep8?00:17
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Kennanjhova: I am trying to make magnum work with ironic these days. Still have some issue to deal with.00:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: policy check for node  https://review.openstack.org/19297501:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Backport "configure docker storage correctly"  https://review.openstack.org/19258801:13
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sdakere poll action item, i crashed after our meeting and just woke up about 1 hr ago04:48
sdakeso i'll get a doodle poll started up in a moment and send to the mailing list04:48
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Tangosdake: Not a problem05:25
sdakehey tango05:25
sdakedo you ahve a maximum room capacity #05:25
sdaketango good to see your still awake :)05:25
sdakeI just finished filling out the doodle paperwork05:26
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TangoTechnically there are 24 comfy chairs in the room, but we always pull in extra chairs when there is a big crowd05:26
sdaketango do you have any kind of telepresence, such as mics05:26
sdakeif you ahve mics, we can connect them to webex, and have rmeote participation05:27
Tangosdake: The room has a bunch of little mikes on the table, designed for teleconference05:28
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sdakedo they have a usb interface05:28
sdakewill dinner be provided?05:28
sdakeI blew my budget on the kolla midcycle so can't contribute here05:28
TangoBut I found you have to speak close to the mike for clarity.  I will check to see if we have anything better05:28
sdakeI"m going to see if I can order two USB mics to hook into my mac05:29
TangoThey just did a bunch of remodeling,so we may be in luck05:29
sdakelike the hold in your hand type05:29
TangoYeah I know what you mean05:29
TangoI will look into that, to make sure the remote folks can parcitipate05:30
sdakeperhaps RAX has some budget adrian can squeeze out for dinner05:30
sdakeI am running on empty budget wise05:30
sdakehave to pick up bit of kolla midcycle out of pocket05:30
TangoMy budget only cover lunch and drink for the 2 days05:30
sdakeack05:31
TangoWe can check if Adrian can help with dinner05:31
sdakewould you mind sending him an email offlist?05:31
TangoSure05:31
sdakesend me on cc if you like05:31
sdakeif not, folks may have to pick up their own dinner05:31
sdakeeveryone's budget is scrunched because of tokyo summit costs05:31
TangoRight, we can still go out for dinner and everyone cover their own05:32
sdakewould be better if one of the big companies can help cover the costs05:32
sdake;)05:32
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sdakedefray I htink is the word :)05:32
sdakeI'd be happy to cover the bar tab after dinner personally :)05:32
TangoYep.  There was some folks from Huawei and HP last time05:33
sdakewell send an email to adrian, perhaps he can find someone to pay :)05:33
sdakesomeone always has to pay05:33
sdakebtw, big ++++ for offering up the facilities space05:34
Tangoyeah, we will work this out beforehand.05:34
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TangoGlad to do this05:34
TangoI find Magnum folks are fun :)05:34
sdakeI know what its like scheduling the midcycle as I have just gone through one of these for the first time05:34
sdakethe costs are much higher then one would expect ;)05:34
TangoKnow what you mean, my manager and I went back and forth a few times on the budget05:35
TangoBTW, I wrote up the instruction for building the Fedora Atomic image05:35
sdakenice!05:35
sdakeyou figured it out - even without me :)05:35
sdakethere is one less bus factor at play now :)05:36
TangoThe guys did a good job reviewing, I am fixing up the doc now05:36
TangoJust reading the instructions, as you said05:36
Tangoyou gave enough pointers05:36
TangoI put you as co-author on the patch, hopefully I got the right syntax05:37
Tangohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/196145/105:37
TangoI am uploading a new version in a few mins05:38
TangoOne thing Jay Lau mentioned was, whether it's a good idea to point to private git repo, like the one from jasonbrooks05:39
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed openstack/magnum: Instruction for building Fedora Atomic image  https://review.openstack.org/19614505:42
TangoIf you have time, please double check to see if I got anything wrong.05:42
sdakewill there be coffee int he morning?05:45
sdaketango I think we should fork that05:46
sdakeso we have a copy in case jason brooks gets hacked or something05:46
sdakeother then that, I don't think it matters - eventually the fedora infra people will sort it out05:46
sdakethey are almost to th epoint of doing daily builds05:47
sdakethey just don't hve any integration tests to do CI with ;(05:47
sdakeyay friday pay day - incoming http://www.feickert.de/index.php?id=10&L=005:50
Tangonew toy?05:50
sdakeordering early next week after I pay off my amex05:50
sdakeya new toy05:51
sdakemen from the boys price of their toys and al lthat :)05:51
TangoIt plays LP ?05:52
sdakeya05:52
Tangocool, so you must have a good collection?05:52
sdakenah just got into it about 6 mo ago05:53
sdakebought this tube amp about 3 mo ago05:53
sdakehttp://www.stevehuffphoto.com/line-magnetic-219ia-integrated-tube-amp-review-300b-and-845-tube-magic/05:53
sdakefinally arrived05:53
TangoSo they will play nice together?05:54
sdakeya I have a cheapo project record player05:54
sdakewhich is actually pretty good for the price05:54
sdakeI think it was 200 bucks05:54
sdakeI bought this http://www.isoteksystems.com/products/performance/evo3-aquarius/ this weekend05:55
sdakeauditioned vs my existing power conditoner I bought at best buy05:55
sdakeit made me so depressed at how much better it sounded I haven't even wanted to turn on my tube amp until the conditioner arrives05:55
sdakenot sure if I am actually getting that record player still negotatating with wife05:56
sdakeits 9k05:56
sdakeso she isn't happy I spent 7.5k on a tube amp and now 9k on a record player05:56
sdakeshe says I have a problem ;-)05:56
sdakebut hey atleast its healthy ;)05:57
Tangoyou need a nice audio room to get the most out of these top of the line equipments :)05:57
sdakeagree05:57
sdakeneed new house for that to happen05:57
sdakethats not in our future for some time05:57
TangoConvert the garage05:57
sdake115f in phx05:57
sdakeneed a place to park my porsche too05:57
sdake;-)05:57
Tangoah, there is the conflict05:58
sdakeya pretty much garage is a nonstarter05:58
sdakebut I did consider it05:58
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sdakewhenever I heard people talk about all the difference in the power conditioners at the high end (3k equipment)05:59
sdakeI thought they were on crack05:59
sdakebut it makes a huge difference05:59
sdakeI couldn't even believe how much06:00
sdakethe mass market stuff makes the music busted06:00
sdakeactually the high end poer conditioner is 30k usd06:00
sdakebut it rebuilds a sine wave ac output in the box06:01
sdakei'm not quite sure how they pull that off, but basically I think its like a super up/down transformer06:01
TangoWell, I guess I haven't made to that level yet, so I could only imagine the difference you are talking about :)06:01
sdakedon't recall enough of my EE training06:01
TangoBut I do know there is a difference06:02
sdakemy old power conditioner was 150 bucks06:02
sdakeit sounds like absolute shit compared to the isotek06:02
sdakethen he started in with the cords06:02
sdakehe let me try out his 3k cords06:02
sdakeone cord made a big difference06:03
sdakebut the other not so much06:03
sdakemy delaer is pretty cool he lets me try out gear before I buy06:03
sdakehe says if I can't hear a difference then don't buy it06:03
sdakehe says he can barely tell the difference between 6k cords and the 600$ cord I bought that he let me demo06:04
sdakebut the stock cord and the 600$ cord, he says like nails sratching on a chaulk board to him :)06:04
sdakeit wasn't that bad to me06:04
sdakeit just opens up the bandwidth of the music IMO06:04
TangoSo how do you get a good source for the music?  Would a regular CD be not good enough?06:04
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sdakeseems like there is mroe "compression" with the lower end gear06:04
sdakecds are good06:05
sdakeanalog is better IMO because there is no compression06:05
sdakebut really I just want a pimping looking setup06:05
sdakethen I started to actually hear the difference bettween great and fantastic06:05
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sdakeand then i was like "WTF nwo I gotta buy all this crap so I'm not drepssed about the one time I heard my system sound fantastic" :)06:06
sdakeand 3k for a power conditioner is rediculous06:06
sdakebut whatever, can't take it with me06:06
sdakedual income high tech household06:06
sdakewife works at elasticsearch06:06
Tangohehe, that's enough reason for the investment, all for good health06:06
sdakeright - hobby for me06:07
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sdakewhat is crazy is my speakers are kef ls50 speakers06:07
sdakewhich were 1500$06:07
sdakewhich compared to the rest of my gear is pretty cheap06:07
sdakebut these speakers are better then 50k USD speakers i've heard06:08
sdakeI have heard every speaker in town that is sold in a store06:08
sdakeI even listened to some 300k wikid looking speakers06:08
sdakethe guy said "I know you are not going to buy these today, but some day you might so I'll let you hear em ;)"06:08
TangoI heard great speaker are also less efficient, so you need more power to drive them06:08
sdakeya my kef ls50 is 86db speaker very ineffecieint06:08
sdakemy tube amp is SET 24 watt06:09
Tangois that enough?06:09
sdakewhen a speaker says 86db @ 1 watt, that means at 1 watt of power input it produces 86db of noise06:09
sdakeI like to listen at about 86-90db06:09
sdakemusic sound volume doubles every time watts increases by magnitude06:10
sdakei.e. 1 watt to 10 watts = double volume06:10
sdake10 watts to 100 watts = double volume again06:10
sdake100 watts to 1000 watts = double volume again06:10
Tangoyep, log06:10
sdakeif you want loud, you need high effecennciy speakers06:10
sdakeif you want quality you want kef ls50 ;)06:10
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sdakethe best music comes from the first 1 watts of amplification06:12
sdakeafter that things start to fade06:12
sdakeI listen at 1-10 watts usually06:13
sdakebut I don't like loud music ;)06:13
sdakemy delaer listens at higher volumes then i do06:13
sdakeall very subjective06:13
sdakethe ls50 is a fantastic speaker for solid state amps (high output)06:13
TangoYou mean more distortion at the higher volume?06:13
sdakefor tube amps not so fantastic because they are not super effecient06:13
sdakethat is one problem06:14
sdakethe main problem with high volume is that the amp can output 100 watts, but the music requires 200 watts worth of input06:14
sdakeI forget what this is called, but basically there isn't enough watts to drive the speaker properly06:15
sdakebut my amp is rated at 24 watts, which means it can output 24 watts before it runs into ceiling06:15
sdakeyour max volume level IMO should be at about half the wattage of your amp06:15
sdakeso for example, in my case 12 watts is about the most I should play at06:16
sdakewhich is about 94db or so06:16
sdakea really lodu rock concert  ithnk is 110 watts06:16
sdakerather 110db06:16
sdakecauses hearing damage06:16
Tangoright, but at that level, you don't worry about sound quality06:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/magnum: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19725509:56
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/magnum: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19725514:13
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manjeetsHi every one I am having issue using devstack after magnum installation16:13
manjeetsm-cond failure and local.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter:16:14
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manjeetshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/147029016:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470290 in Magnum "m-cond failure and local.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter: " [Undecided,New]16:14
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manjeets https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/147029017:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470290 in Magnum "m-cond failure and local.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter: " [Undecided,New]17:03
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msnjeetshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/147029017:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470290 in Magnum "m-cond failure and local.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter: " [Undecided,New]17:28
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manjeetsHi Everyone I am using magnum to create baymodel and then bay when i do bay-list I see status Crreate_Failed23:50
manjeetscan any bodt help me here23:50
manjeetswhat am i doing wrong23:50
manjeets??????23:52
manjeets?????23:52
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madhuri_manjeets, Can you run heat stack-list?23:59

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