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| openstackgerrit | Michael Sambol proposed openstack/magnum: Drop XML support in Magnum https://review.openstack.org/200961 | 00:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Temporary work around of functional test failure https://review.openstack.org/200835 | 02:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Sambol proposed openstack/magnum: Drop XML support in Magnum https://review.openstack.org/200961 | 02:31 |
| wanghua | Hi all, is CI broken? | 02:33 |
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| wanghua | Kennan: ping | 07:13 |
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| wanghua | hi all, magnum-conductor only contact with kubemaster, why kubeminion needs a floating ip | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/magnum: policy check for pod https://review.openstack.org/201039 | 08:47 |
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| Kennan | hi wanghua: | 09:55 |
| Kennan | what can I help you ? | 09:55 |
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| wanghua | Kennan: can magnum work in not all in one deploy? | 11:19 |
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| obedmr | hi there, good day to everyone, a qq, is there a place where I can see the Magnum project roadmap? I'm interested on seeing if there's a plan for supporting rkt containers | 15:07 |
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| hongbin | obedmr: I heard several folks talking about that, but I don't remember if there is any plan for that. | 15:54 |
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| hongbin | obedmr: Maybe you could raise your question in the mailing list to get more feedback. | 15:56 |
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| mfalatic_ | hongbin +1 for finding a way to work around the gate bug! | 16:18 |
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| hongbin | mfalatic_: Thx. It should be fixed in devstack anyway.... If they can deliver a quick fix, I will abandon my review. | 16:48 |
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| mfalatic | indeed | 16:49 |
| mfalatic | I wonder, will builds work now then? | 16:49 |
| mfalatic | Yours isn't merged so that'd be "no", nevermind. | 16:49 |
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| suro-patz | Tango: Hi! Was there a resolution for the 'atomic fc21' ping - invalid argument issue? | 19:10 |
| Tango | suro-patz: Someone pointed me to an update set of instruction to building the image, but I haven't gotten around to it yet | 19:12 |
| Tango | suro-patz: The basic steps look the same, but there might be some subtle differences that would make difference | 19:12 |
| suro-patz | Tango: Ok, I was following the dev-quickstart, the cluster comes up fine, but the pod-creation stays stuck in 'pending' stage | 19:12 |
| suro-patz | when I am checking to see reachability, I found ping is broken | 19:13 |
| Tango | suro-patz: That's probably because the minion can't get to the docker site to download image | 19:13 |
| Tango | suro-patz: At least when I ran into this symptom, that was my problem | 19:14 |
| Tango | You can check if the DNS is set up correctly on the private subnet | 19:14 |
| suro-patz | I could not conclude the connectivity as basic ping is broken | 19:14 |
| Tango | Right, that's where I found ping was broken earlier | 19:15 |
| Tango | but curl works, you can try "curl google.com" | 19:15 |
| Tango | this will test the connectivity | 19:15 |
| suro-patz | *running now* | 19:16 |
| suro-patz | seems to be a DNS issue, as curl could not resolve the hostname | 19:16 |
| Tango | Yep, you probably need to do a subnet update to set the DNS, then either reboot the minion, or just rebuild the bay | 19:17 |
| suro-patz | Tango: Thanks! I see, I will try that out | 19:17 |
| suro-patz | thanks | 19:17 |
| Tango | np | 19:17 |
| suro-patz | Tango: I see the subnet that the minion belongs to have dnsserver configured as 8.8.8.8 | 19:20 |
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| hongbin | larsks: Hi larsks. | 20:18 |
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| hongbin | larsks: I am going to add support for multiple kube master nodes in Magnum. Do you like this feature landed in heat-kubernetes repo as well? | 20:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/magnum: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200676 | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | hey team | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | As you may know we have a devstack problem that's blocking our gate tests. Hongbin has proposed a workaround in: https://review.openstack.org/200835 | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | mfalatic and I have been thinking about the best way to deal with this | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | the root cause of the problem is that Devstack has switch from Keystone v2 to Keystone v3, and Magnum uses our Keystone v2 API | 21:44 |
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| adrian_otto | one way to solve this is to just work around the Devstack issue as hongbin proposed (probably a good short term move to get the gate to work) | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | another way is to switch Magnum to use Keystone v3, with a fallback option to enable keystone v2 (more involved set of work, we will need to do that eventually anyway) | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | the question is should we use this catalyst to go there now | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | what do you all think about it? | 21:48 |
| eghobo | I think if all stack is moving to v3, we should move is well. | 21:50 |
| eghobo | how big is the effort | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | honestly speaking it's probably in the 500 lines of change range or less. | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | so maybe 2 or 3 reviews worth of work | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | my guess is that an above average contributor cold finish it in a day or two | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | s/cold/could/ | 21:52 |
| eghobo | ok, we need to find contributor next ;) | 21:53 |
| adrian_otto | well step one is determining if we agree this direction is appropriate right now, or if we should table it. | 21:53 |
| eghobo | make sense | 21:54 |
| adrian_otto | unless we can decide sooner, I'll put it on our team agenda for tomorrow's team meeting | 21:56 |
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| mfalatic | +1 for agenda and +1 for the workaround | 21:58 |
| adrian_otto | mfalatic: what did mfainberg say about it? | 22:00 |
| mfalatic | Feedback from Morgan is that the break is due to a reliance on v2 semantics (but why that broke it isn't clear) | 22:01 |
| mfalatic | He's traveling as are many for the mid-cycle, may be why I haven't gotten a lot of feedback. | 22:02 |
| mfalatic | He suggested mentioning it in openstack-keystone | 22:02 |
| mfalatic | Of course, we already know what's wrong at this point... just a question of how to work around it and eventually fix it. I don't get the feeling anything will be changing at a higher level. | 22:03 |
| mfalatic | So, my summary is that we will need to adapt to v3 sooner than later. | 22:05 |
| mfalatic | And as for v2... do we maintain compat with that in master? For how long? These are open questions too. | 22:05 |
| mfalatic | (I mean obviously we have it for some time) | 22:05 |
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| mfalatic | but in master? On kilo? do people tend to deploy bits from different releases like mixing kilo and liberty? | 22:06 |
| mfalatic | (considering customers who use keystone v2) | 22:06 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: Sorry, I haven't seen your comments on here (because I have already started a ML to devstack team). | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | hongbin: do you have a link to that thread? | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | if not, I'll go look for it | 22:35 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069398.html | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | perfect, thanks! | 22:37 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: I think devstack should check the version of keystone before injecting v3 specified variables. So I asked them to fix it. | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I see no harm in merging your workaround patch | 22:38 |
| hongbin | I think so | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | because once the devstack patch is in place it would simply be redundant | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | and could be backed out easily | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | when we need to support Keystone v3 | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | I will look to see if we have a BP for Keystone v3 features, and if not, will file one | 22:39 |
| hongbin | I haven't dipping into that yet. | 22:40 |
| hongbin | No, I haven't found any BP for that. | 22:43 |
| hongbin | Agree that keystone v3 is the right direction. | 22:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Perry Rivera proposed openstack/magnum: Add manual links into dev-quickstart.rst https://review.openstack.org/189584 | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-keystone-v3 | 22:46 |
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| adrian_otto | Kennan, madhuri, or Tango are you around? | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | please merge: https://review.openstack.org/200835 | 22:53 |
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| adrian_otto | yuanying: yt? | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | or perhaps yuanying-alt? | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | or dims__ | 22:55 |
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| mfalatic | Once the workaround is merged I'd like to get my doc overhaul gate-rechecked and then merged rather soon thereafter so everyone making smaller changes can rebase and get theirs in. | 23:10 |
| mfalatic | (smaller doc changes that is) | 23:10 |
| mfalatic | juggler - see my comments on your change. I think it'll make more sense to restructure the devstack part of our docs (quickstart + manual) as it is. | 23:13 |
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| mfalatic | Note that I'm not saying you have to restructure it - it's just something I've been thinking about doing as a "part 2" of my changes. | 23:17 |
| mfalatic | Just be aware that more changes are being pondered. | 23:17 |
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| mfalatic | juggler Also, there will be a specific page in the documentation index for the manual ops as it is - is adding a cross-link inside the docs redundant? | 23:22 |
| adrian_otto | mfalatic: let's get the improvements in for now. We need to rework all the docs to fit into the context of docs.openstack.org anyway | 23:22 |
| adrian_otto | and all this becomes moot | 23:22 |
| adrian_otto | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-07-14_2200_UTC Team Meeting Agenda updated to include discussion of gate breakage from Devstack | 23:23 |
| mfalatic | Agreed - just want to ensure they are linked correctly | 23:23 |
| mfalatic | (e.g., using the rest format versus hard links) | 23:23 |
| adrian_otto | RST you mean? | 23:23 |
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| adrian_otto | best thing to do there is a patch takeover. Do you know how? | 23:24 |
| mfalatic | Well ReST... the doc format used on the site. | 23:24 |
| mfalatic | a patch takeover? | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | git clone https://github.com/openstack/magnum | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | cd magnum | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | git review -d NNNNN | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | edit the file, then: | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | git review -v | 23:25 |
| adrian_otto | that way you can post your own revision and become a co-author of the patch | 23:25 |
| mfalatic | (and note this is not about the API docs which is another thing entirely... this is just the developer docs which are more consistent with other projects after my change) | 23:26 |
| mfalatic | ah | 23:26 |
| adrian_otto | in the commit message you can add Co-Authored By: | 23:26 |
| adrian_otto | that way we move things forward | 23:26 |
| mfalatic | Interesting. Haven't done that, but wanted to talk here before stepping on any toes too. :-D | 23:26 |
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| mfalatic | My changes will trigger at least two other rebases (because of the quickstart changes) | 23:27 |
| adrian_otto | I just want to get all these docs changes in | 23:27 |
| adrian_otto | because having stale docs is hurting us | 23:27 |
| mfalatic | It should go smoothly at that point. | 23:28 |
| adrian_otto | so I want the devstack gate workaround merges, and the docs reviews in | 23:28 |
| mfalatic | I can help with those rebases though, certainly. What you suggest here, for the takeover, should facilitate that. | 23:28 |
| adrian_otto | cool, thanks | 23:29 |
| adrian_otto | probably takeover is the wrong word | 23:29 |
| mfalatic | By the way, what's NNNNN in git review above? | 23:29 |
| adrian_otto | but this practice is rare, and should be used more | 23:29 |
| mfalatic | the bug number or the review number? | 23:29 |
| mfalatic | probably the review..? | 23:30 |
| adrian_otto | and we should not feel worried about stepping on toes | 23:30 |
| adrian_otto | NNNN is the review number | 23:30 |
| mfalatic | Well, I'm proposing more than just a rebase to the one because IMHO deep linking or redundant linking should be discouraged | 23:30 |
| adrian_otto | especially if you are doing something stylistic in nature, this is a great approach | 23:31 |
| adrian_otto | core reviewers tend not to do it, because then it's customary not to +2 work that you contributed yourself | 23:31 |
| adrian_otto | but I'd like to see that happen more among those active contributors who are not yet in the core group | 23:31 |
| mfalatic | Interesting. | 23:31 |
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| adrian_otto | another approach is to vote to merge it and filing a tech-debt bug against it | 23:32 |
| mfalatic | I suspect it's a balancing act... you don't want to do that just to impose your own changes because you prefer them... but definitely to unstick things. | 23:32 |
| mfalatic | It'll be a non-trivial rebase anyway. | 23:32 |
| adrian_otto | and then following the merge with a subsequent review to pay off the debt. That take more filling around then a revision. | 23:32 |
| adrian_otto | *takes | 23:33 |
| mfalatic | At this point it's a revision no matter what. Faster if done during the rebase. | 23:33 |
| adrian_otto | yep | 23:33 |
| mfalatic | the other one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200426/ | 23:33 |
| adrian_otto | See also: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Contributing#How_to_Resolve_Merge_Conflicts | 23:33 |
| mfalatic | That one needs no changes and I can help rebase it if the author isn't available when it's ready. | 23:33 |
| mfalatic | yep | 23:33 |
| mfalatic | I have some experience with resolving merge conflicts. :-D | 23:34 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sweet. Just pass that doc along to anyone stumbling on that later on. | 23:34 |
| mfalatic | I just know it'll be non-trivial, requiring local editing. | 23:34 |
| mfalatic | cool | 23:34 |
| mfalatic | I'm surprised that's not a global OpenStack-level doc. | 23:35 |
| mfalatic | (the merge conflict resolution) | 23:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Temporary work around of functional test failure https://review.openstack.org/200835 | 23:36 |
| adrian_otto | perhaps it is, but I could not find it when someone asked me that for the first time | 23:36 |
| adrian_otto | WHOOT | 23:36 |
| mfalatic | ok then - off I go to recheck! | 23:36 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks yuanying! | 23:36 |
| mfalatic | +1 | 23:37 |
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| yuanying | my pleasure | 23:37 |
| mfalatic | So my change is queued for building. Once it's done (I should hope successfully!) it'll be ready for merge. | 23:38 |
| mfalatic | If anything else conflicting goes in before it.. notsomuch. | 23:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sweet | 23:38 |
| mfalatic | Thanks for your help on this! | 23:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Make ironic templates working https://review.openstack.org/198596 | 23:48 |
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| adrian_otto | redrobot: madhuri is seeking guidance to resolve trouble with Barbican and finding a working CA we can use | 23:52 |
| adrian_otto | redrobot: can you lend a hand, or refer us to someone who can help a bit? | 23:52 |
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