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| suro-patz | Hi madhuri: if you have not started on https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1465097, please let me know, I can pick this up | 00:14 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465097 in Magnum "Wrong node-count in bay-list" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Madhuri Kumari (madhuri-rai07) | 00:14 |
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| diga_ | Hi All | 00:23 |
| diga_ | do we require two NICs for devstack installation if we want to install Neutron with Magnum ? | 00:23 |
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| suro-patz | diga_: no | 00:24 |
| diga_ | because I have new machine which has only one NIC | 00:24 |
| diga_ | okay | 00:24 |
| suro-patz | I am using with one NIC | 00:24 |
| suro-patz | also, it works on VM | 00:24 |
| diga_ | okay | 00:24 |
| diga_ | then what is your PUBLIC_INTERFACE | 00:24 |
| diga_ | eth0 ?? | 00:25 |
| diga_ | or br-ex ? | 00:25 |
| suro-patz | which distro are you using ? | 00:25 |
| diga_ | ubuntu 14.04 | 00:25 |
| suro-patz | br-ex is no way the PUBLIC_INTERFACE | 00:26 |
| diga_ | yeah, I set a eth0 | 00:26 |
| diga_ | but its failing public_gw_router side | 00:26 |
| diga_ | let me post the log here | 00:26 |
| suro-patz | my observation was that setting PUBLIC_INTERFACE to eth0 was causing my vm to loose connectivity while running stack.sh | 00:27 |
| suro-patz | I checked in the code to derive the public interface where it matters for the MASQ rule | 00:27 |
| diga_ | okay | 00:28 |
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| diga_ | how to resolve this issue | 00:28 |
| suro-patz | you may choose to ignore setting the public_interface, as long as you are creating the /opt/stack/devstack/local.sh | 00:28 |
| suro-patz | as per https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/doc/source/dev/dev-quickstart.rst | 00:28 |
| diga_ | okay | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/magnum: Added Cert object and data model. https://review.openstack.org/203901 | 00:39 |
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| Kennan | hi suro-patz: | 00:51 |
| Kennan | there? | 00:51 |
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| Kennan | I once hit that issue before for devstack lost connectivity | 00:52 |
| Kennan | I remembered clear it works before | 00:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/magnum: Add Cert controller and conductor. https://review.openstack.org/204798 | 00:53 |
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| Kennan | it just not work recently | 00:53 |
| Kennan | so maybe devstack script changes something | 00:53 |
| Kennan | diga_: let me know your devstack run, if ok or not | 00:54 |
| diga_ | hey Kennan | 00:55 |
| diga_ | it worked for me :) | 00:55 |
| Kennan | hi diga_: so not need to set PUBLIC_INTERFACE | 00:55 |
| Kennan | can work? | 00:55 |
| diga_ | I didn't get any error | 00:56 |
| diga_ | I am concerned about one thing | 00:56 |
| diga_ | let me paste my neutron net-list output | 00:57 |
| diga_ | digambar_patil@PTD22999:~/devstack$ neutron net-list | 00:57 |
| diga_ | bfaa1ca7-a3c7-438f-a808-80ec1f7ae7dc | public | | 00:57 |
| diga_ | d86d8e30-db43-49a5-9c6f-f946003a5434 | private | c164a0ff-5ff4-47b1-a7e0-3a8b306d7de3 fda6:fd75:d856::/64 | | | | fbdb4ec0-5741-4e48-9b66-1caf75b497c4 10.0.0.0/24 | 00:58 |
| diga_ | . | 00:58 |
| Kennan | hi diga_: | 00:58 |
| Kennan | try to use this http://paste.openstack.org/ | 00:58 |
| Kennan | for paste text output | 00:58 |
| diga_ | ok | 00:58 |
| diga_ | Kennan: check this http://paste.openstack.org/show/401933/ | 01:00 |
| Kennan | ok | 01:02 |
| Kennan | hi diga_: | 01:03 |
| Kennan | I don't think it can work | 01:03 |
| diga_ | okay | 01:03 |
| Kennan | as magnum now templates deploy need floating ip | 01:03 |
| Kennan | if public have no network | 01:03 |
| Kennan | how can it successed ? | 01:03 |
| diga_ | yes | 01:04 |
| Kennan | diga_: I really hit that devstack install (one NIC) lost connectiveity | 01:04 |
| diga_ | I am facing same problem while creating a bay | 01:04 |
| Kennan | I did not figure it out why | 01:04 |
| diga_ | okay | 01:04 |
| Kennan | devstack worked before | 01:04 |
| Kennan | not know what changes they did | 01:04 |
| diga_ | do you have two NIC for your machine ?? | 01:05 |
| Kennan | diga_: I once get machine with only NIC | 01:05 |
| Kennan | If I want to try a new devstack, I can try with 2NiCs | 01:06 |
| Kennan | diga_: do you have two NICs? | 01:06 |
| diga_ | no. only one NIC | 01:06 |
| Kennan | OK | 01:06 |
| Kennan | diga_: | 01:07 |
| diga_ | Need to attach one more NIC if it doesn't work | 01:07 |
| Kennan | for One NIC, does it lose connectity ? | 01:07 |
| Kennan | in your env | 01:07 |
| diga_ | no | 01:07 |
| diga_ | My devstack is running fine | 01:07 |
| diga_ | I am working on baremetal machine | 01:08 |
| Kennan | does your machine is local or remote VM? | 01:08 |
| diga_ | local Desktop machine | 01:08 |
| Kennan | diga_: OK. I always get remote VMs for setup devstack | 01:09 |
| Kennan | and devstack running soon, network lost | 01:09 |
| diga_ | okay | 01:09 |
| diga_ | then did you install magnum also on VM ? | 01:09 |
| Kennan | yes diga_: | 01:09 |
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| diga_ | what configuration do you use for your VM ? | 01:10 |
| Kennan | diga_: 16GB | 01:11 |
| Kennan | memory | 01:11 |
| diga_ | ohh | 01:12 |
| diga_ | does all works on that ? | 01:12 |
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| diga_ | because I tried some days back by installing devstack & magnum on vm but it gives me error when I try to create a bay saying "not have enough resources" something like this | 01:14 |
| Kennan | diga_: not know the details logs | 01:14 |
| Kennan | I could try devstack with two NICs today | 01:15 |
| Kennan | Becasue I did not have confidence one NIC can work (as network lost issue bother me :( | 01:15 |
| diga_ | same here | 01:17 |
| diga_ | I need to resolve this issue anyhow today | 01:17 |
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| diga | hi hongbin | 03:18 |
| diga | I think all the gates are passed | 03:19 |
| diga | I dont need to recheck again | 03:19 |
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| diga | for this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204511/1 | 03:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: policy check for rc https://review.openstack.org/204496 | 03:22 |
| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: policy check for service https://review.openstack.org/204593 | 03:22 |
| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: policy check for container https://review.openstack.org/204834 | 03:22 |
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| hongbin | diga: What's up | 03:26 |
| hongbin | diga: What can I do for that patch? | 03:27 |
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| diga | hongbin: I said I dont need to recheck that patch as it is passing all the gates | 03:29 |
| diga | I saw your comments on my patch regarding recheck | 03:29 |
| hongbin | diga: That is a long time ago. I don't remember what happened at that time | 03:30 |
| hongbin | I saw all the tests are passed now, and I gave a +2. It should be good to go | 03:30 |
| diga | yes | 03:30 |
| diga | it was yesterday's patch | 03:30 |
| diga | NP | 03:30 |
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| jjfreric | Question on setting up magnum for devstack. I'm running my environment in an ubuntu VM on virtualbox. I see a comment that says "Update PUBLIC_INTERFACE as appropriate for your system." How can I tell what is appropriate for my system? I have two network adapters, eth0 and eth1. eth0 is attached to "NAT" and eth1 is attached to "Host-only Adapter". Does anyone know? | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Make k8sclient use the load balancer address https://review.openstack.org/204261 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Port upstream commit "keep chasing etcd" https://review.openstack.org/204260 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: [WIP]Bootstrap etcd cluster by discovery_url https://review.openstack.org/204366 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Register kube minions through load balancers https://review.openstack.org/202307 | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | daneyon: ping | 17:10 |
| daneyon | hey! I was in the middle of responding to your email :-) | 17:11 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, go ahead and finish that. | 17:11 |
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| daneyon | just a few more mins and you'll see it | 17:12 |
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| adrian_otto | The point I want to discuss is about a Docker agnostic networking solution, and whether that approach is actually justified based on how people will use magnum in the near term, and if we can take an approach that does something Docker specific in the near term without precluding a follow-up approach to allow for other non-Docker bay types. | 17:20 |
| adrian_otto | For example, if we just integrated with libnetwork for now, and accepted a limitation that only container runtimes that support libnetwork can integrate with Magnum, and revisiting that constraint at such time as alternate runtimes are popular enough to justify a higher level abstraction. | 17:21 |
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| hongbin | I am OK for that. Introducing a level of abstraction doesn't seem to be a must, especially at the beginning of the implementation. | 17:30 |
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| adrian_otto | the part I'm uncertain about, and could use better clarity on is this: | 17:31 |
| adrian_otto | If we took a libnetwork approach first, and added another layer of abstraction at a later time, what would be the impact on users and operators? | 17:32 |
| hongbin | An obvious impact could be an additional API, such as magnum network-list ... | 17:33 |
| adrian_otto | I'm not against something that would support an OCP container runtime, but I'm reluctant to architect a solution for that before it really exists. | 17:34 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: good point, but that would be additive. | 17:34 |
| hongbin | Yes, we don't have to have the network API at the beginning. | 17:36 |
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| hongbin | IMO, the beginning of the implementation should be a quick prototype of a bay type with neutron backend | 17:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, another area where I could use additional clarity is on our stated desire to support nova-net. I don't really understand what that means. I think what we might be trying to say is that we want Magnum to work properly on clouds that use nova-net and have not yet adopted neutron. Is that right? | 17:39 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: could you point to the line of the spec you are referring to? | 17:41 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: looking | 17:42 |
| adrian_otto | line 102 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204686/3/specs/container-networking-model.rst is the only place "nova" appears in the spec, but it is mentioned in the comment stream of https://review.openstack.org/204686 | 17:43 |
| adrian_otto | there is a comment from daneyon at 07-22 12:04 PM | 17:43 |
| adrian_otto | from what i can tell this is a red herring | 17:44 |
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| daneyon | adrian_otto The reason being is that the spec is focused on container networking and not the openstack network. I think bringing both under 1 spec can get ugly. I provided general feedback that I think it's important for magnum to support both openstack network implementations (in a future spec). | 17:48 |
| hongbin | I don't think I fully get what it means. I leave it to daneyon to clarify. | 17:48 |
| adrian_otto | Team: We've been having a conversation about the following proposed spec: https://review.openstack.org/204686 Magnum Container Networking, and invite you to our Container Networking Subteam Meeting starting in a few minutes in irc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#openstack-meeting at 1800 UTC | 17:48 |
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| daneyon | but maybe i'm off base here | 17:48 |
| sgordon | fyi https://review.openstack.org/205199 | 17:48 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon will be our chair, and I have invited Neutron devs to join us. | 17:48 |
| sgordon | adding docs for python-magnumclient 0.2.1 to the cli reference | 17:49 |
| sgordon | (theoretically) | 17:49 |
| adrian_otto | thanks sgordon | 17:49 |
| daneyon | The reason I don;t want to throw away the possibility of supporting nova-net is that many large operators still use it. Until neutron becomes the 1 and only, then I think it would be a good idea not to tie magnum netwokring to only Neutron. | 17:49 |
| adrian_otto | I think there may be a better way to state it | 17:50 |
| adrian_otto | perhaps that Magnum's networking solution must not take a hard dependency on Neutron, because that would limit adoption of Magnum. | 17:50 |
| adrian_otto | once Neutron is ubiquitous, then we would no longer be concerned about this. | 17:51 |
| daneyon | adrian_otto correct | 17:51 |
| adrian_otto | FTR, I am sympathetic to the Neutron point of view here | 17:52 |
| daneyon | i am fine locking ourselves into neutron as the one and only openstack networking solution when nova-net disappears. However, many operators and members of the container community have a bad taste in their mouth from Neutron. | 17:52 |
| adrian_otto | but we must realize that the container ecosystem does not completely overlap with the OpenStack ecosystem, and we need a way to easily run containers that do were created outside of an OpenStack environment. | 17:53 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon: acknowledged. | 17:53 |
| daneyon | I would not be surprised to have a large openstack provider that uses nova-net ask for nova-net support. | 17:53 |
| adrian_otto | one way to address that is to simply omit it | 17:54 |
| adrian_otto | and allow that issue to surface separately. | 17:54 |
| adrian_otto | we could also propose this spec in smaller parts | 17:55 |
| adrian_otto | and allow ongoing debate on the controversial parts | 17:56 |
| adrian_otto | where the other parts can merge as directional | 17:56 |
| daneyon | I can remove the user story that references Nova. Not an issue since this spec is not meant to address the openstack cloud networking layer. | 17:56 |
| daneyon | i think the main issue is whether we align Magnum's networking with Kuryr. | 17:57 |
| daneyon | If so, then we run into issues with Flannel support | 17:57 |
| daneyon | since Kuryr is tied to libnetwork and Flannel is not a libnetwork remote driver | 17:58 |
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| daneyon | With google joining the party, I would like to get their input if they will have dev's contribute to Magnum. | 17:58 |
| daneyon | adrian_otto ^ | 17:59 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon: I agree | 17:59 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon: Time to start the subteam meeting in #openstack-meeting now, ok? | 18:03 |
| daneyon | oops | 18:03 |
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| daneyon | eghobo re adding neutron to libnetwork... Docker will tell us to follow the same process as everyone else | 19:01 |
| hongbin | That will be slow I think | 19:02 |
| daneyon | that is what libnetwork is about... allowing other vendors to create remote drivers | 19:02 |
| daneyon | as long as we follow the contrib guidelines and the CNM, it will get accepted. | 19:02 |
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| daneyon | however, neutron does not have a container networking solution so adding a neutron remtoe libnetwork driver will do nothing for our container networking needs. | 19:03 |
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| adrian_otto | daneyon, it's worth acknowledging that neutron does have an intent to offer a neutron plugin for libnetwork | 19:04 |
| hongbin | daneyon: I think we can dip more about the approach "allocating neutron ports in the running vm, and attach it to container" | 19:04 |
| adrian_otto | and chances are that we could contribute to that. If we don't have the skills, then I can go find it. | 19:04 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: Or we can wait for the neutron folks to do it. When it finishes, we just leverage it. | 19:05 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: I would want our decision to proceed on such a plan to be contingent on a commitment to complete that work. | 19:07 |
| adrian_otto | having a repo up is fine, but I want to know that the effort is actually resourced with engineers that are going to really deliver it in a reasonable timeframe. | 19:08 |
| adrian_otto | from what I can see it's one person so far | 19:08 |
| adrian_otto | so I'd at least want input from that individual | 19:08 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: OK. | 19:08 |
| adrian_otto | we should feel free to contribute to any of the openstack projects | 19:09 |
| adrian_otto | but I'm sensitive to the fact that many of us are employed by sponsors who earmark engineers for a specific list of projects. We might not all be "approved" to work on things outside of Magnum. | 19:10 |
| adrian_otto | in cases like this, I'll do legwork to find contributors who can | 19:10 |
| hongbin | If it is something related to magnum, I guess it should be fine | 19:11 |
| daneyon | adrian_otto i still think it's grey... unless i missed mesterey stating that. I didn't gather that from the Kuryr project announcement that they will be contributing to upstream. However, I do ack that the neutron community is starting to formalize an approach to address container networking needs within OpenStack... I'm just not clear on any details. Hopefully that will change in the near future | 19:12 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's commit to working closely together | 19:14 |
| daneyon | adrian_otto hongbin and even if Kuryr gets some steam, what if they go in a direction that we don't agree with. For example, in their announcement, they said they will manage container images for neutron plugins. The Kolla project already does this. I would like to see that project take a step back and re-think their goals. | 19:14 |
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| adrian_otto | the best weapon against that is meaningful participation | 19:15 |
| adrian_otto | if we are present and vocal, and rational then we should be able to influence. | 19:15 |
| daneyon | If we dev networking outside of Magnum, I would like to see the effort go directly towards the upstream container networking projects to add func for container networking to work better in os clouds. | 19:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: [WIP]Bootstrap etcd cluster by discovery_url https://review.openstack.org/204366 | 21:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surojit Pathak proposed openstack/magnum: Correction for the container-name https://review.openstack.org/205302 | 21:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Surojit Pathak proposed openstack/magnum: Correction for the container-name https://review.openstack.org/205302 | 21:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Rename PeriodictTestCase to PeriodicTestCase https://review.openstack.org/204829 | 22:15 |
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| Kennan | Hi tcammann: | 23:46 |
| Kennan | hi jay: | 23:47 |
| Kennan | the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204810/ doesn't need to change for manual-guide | 23:47 |
| Kennan | as manula-guide not have such expansion expression | 23:47 |
| Kennan | COuld you check my comments in patch? | 23:48 |
| Kennan | I have added that in comment #4 | 23:48 |
| Kennan | the dev-manual-guide have br-ex hardcode | 23:48 |
| Kennan | so not need to disable expansion | 23:48 |
| Kennan | hi yuanying: there? | 23:51 |
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