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| eliqiao | what's the problem with gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-api ? | 02:55 |
| eliqiao | it blocks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262942/ for long time. | 02:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | HouMing Wang proposed openstack/magnum: Do not use inner class of heatclient https://review.openstack.org/266766 | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | HouMing Wang proposed openstack/magnum: Do not use inner class of glanceclient https://review.openstack.org/266779 | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Highlighted NOTE in dev document. https://review.openstack.org/265518 | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | fengzhr proposed openstack/magnum: Handle exception for updating a bay which its stack has been deleted https://review.openstack.org/267612 | 14:45 |
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| ptoohill_mids | Hello, I'm looking into utilizing magnum within our application and am looking for any tips for install via devstack. I found a few things but wondering if there's something more official? | 15:53 |
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| ptoohill_mids | Eh, the docs have the same thing I found in blogs. Was hoping there was a more fluid way to do it. I suppose that solves one of my many questions. | 16:08 |
| Tango | ptoohill_mids: The quick start guide should have everything you need | 16:09 |
| ptoohill_mids | Yea, this is actually a bit different then the other things I was looking at. Thank you Tango | 16:11 |
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| rods | seems like the ping command doesn't work in the fedora image used by devstack | 16:38 |
| rods | getting "-bash: /usr/bin/ping: Invalid argument" | 16:38 |
| rods | seems like the yum command is missing too | 16:39 |
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| hongbin | rods: For the ping, it is a bug from Atomic. | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | A close work around is to use curl, if you have something listening to a port of the pinged address | 16:45 |
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| hongbin | For the yum, it is expected. Atomic removed package management tool | 16:46 |
| rods | hongbin ok, thx, I'm playing a little with networking on a minion and was looking for ping and brctl | 16:47 |
| hongbin | rods: Tango built another image that is based on fedora. Yum should be in that image. | 16:47 |
| rods | oh, cool | 16:47 |
| hongbin | check out this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266726/ | 16:48 |
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| rods | hongbin thanks | 16:49 |
| hongbin | np | 16:49 |
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| Tango | rods: Hi, for ping on the fedora atomic image, the work-around I use is to copy /usr/bin/ping into your local directory and do "sudo ./ping ..." | 16:51 |
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| rods | Tango I haven't thought about that, thanks :) | 16:52 |
| Tango | rods: On the new image, I am seeing some issues with IP assigned to pods and I am still debugging. Looks like some incompatibilities with docker 1.9.1 | 16:53 |
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| Tango | rods: for brctl, I just download the rpm, unpack it and copy the binary to the node. | 16:54 |
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| rods | Tango I'll try that | 16:55 |
| rods | Tango thanks for your help | 16:55 |
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| chandankumar | hongbin, Hello | 17:55 |
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| hongbin | chandankumar: hi | 18:46 |
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| ptoohill_mids | Would magnum be a good fit for what we want? We were planning on utilizing nova-docker but that seems like it may be going away soon. So, we would like to be able to spin up containers and install our required features onto said container. Right now we have a custom ubuntu image, but it seems like its very specific images (micro-os) that works with magnum. | 19:46 |
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| ptoohill_mids | I am wondering if magnum is designed to fit within another product and used to conduct/maintain containers where nova-docker or the like fails. | 19:47 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: Yes. Magnum currently assume a specific image. | 20:04 |
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| hongbin | For ubuntu host, it is not currently supported. | 20:05 |
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| hongbin | But I think we are open to support other OS in the future. As long as someone is volunteer to maintain it. | 20:06 |
| hongbin | For the question if magnum is designed to fit within another product, I am not sure if I understand the question. | 20:08 |
| hongbin | You can use magnum to manage containers (like nova-docker I guess). The key difference is that nova-docker manages containers on IaaS layer. Magnum manages containers on top of IaaS layer (that is on top of nova instances). | 20:09 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: hope it helps | 20:10 |
| Tango | ptoohill_mids: We are working on the image building process. Is there a specific distro that you need? | 20:12 |
| ptoohill_mids | hongbin, So from the examples and tuts that ive looked at this far it just feels like it was never meant to be incorporated into another project, it just feels like a stand alone thing. I'm trying to figure out if magnum is some valid to use within our application for this. We want to be able to spin up containers with 'our' image and magnum was one of the tools to look into | 20:12 |
| ptoohill_mids | Well, we add things to an ubuntu image | 20:12 |
| Tango | ptoohill_mids: That's one of the target for this release | 20:13 |
| ptoohill_mids | and in our project right now that is just a nova vm that the image gets spun up with, and in another impl we have our own images that is desinged for containers but in both instances it is spun up via nova | 20:13 |
| ptoohill_mids | Ah, awesome | 20:13 |
| vilobhmm11 | hongbin : whenever you get time can you please have a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266662/ | 20:13 |
| hongbin | vilobhmm11: Yes, will clear the review queue later. | 20:14 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: It will be incorporated into OpenStack for sure. It leverages OpenStack as much as possible. For example, use neutron for container network, use cinder for container storage, use swift for private docker registry, use neutron load balancer service for container load balacing, etc. | 20:17 |
| ptoohill_mids | well, we are load balancer, and that was another question :) | 20:18 |
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| ptoohill_mids | We want to use you guys to build our environments with containers | 20:18 |
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| ptoohill_mids | hongbin, ^ | 20:19 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: Then your question is? | 20:20 |
| ptoohill_mids | I guess I'm not quite sure at this point. Im just trying to gather info about feasability. The load balancers in magnum isnt a default thing is it? | 20:21 |
| ptoohill_mids | Our workflow is to build a nova VM (or mulitiple), slap our stuff on it and do load balancing. We want to plug magnum into the 'build nova vm' portion. | 20:22 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: You are using load balancers for containers? | 20:23 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: If you are using kubernetes, you create a "service". | 20:24 |
| hongbin | "service" is a load balancer | 20:24 |
| ptoohill_mids | Im not coming off clear, and may need to do some more reading on magnum to have proper questions. But, we are LBAAS, and we want to use Containers in our workflow | 20:25 |
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| ptoohill_mids | So, it seems like we can use it, theres just some logistics i may not be familiar with and theres limitations at the moment if we need our own image it sounds like | 20:26 |
| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: you manages containers manually? or using tools (like kubernetes, docker swarm, apache mesos)? | 20:26 |
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| ptoohill_mids | Right now we dont have containers | 20:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Maddox proposed openstack/magnum: Add initial documentation for troubleshooting gate https://review.openstack.org/267802 | 20:26 |
| ptoohill_mids | We want to use containers as another option to VMs | 20:26 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: I see | 20:27 |
| ptoohill_mids | So im just trying to figure out how i would plug this in and how the workflow would look like | 20:27 |
| ptoohill_mids | I should be able to import the magnum client into a python app yea? If so then i can probably get this rolling, but it does sound like custom images may still be an issue | 20:28 |
| hongbin | 1. create a cluster, which is a set of vms with kubernetes/swarm/mesos on top. | 20:28 |
| hongbin | 2. create containers on the created cluster. | 20:28 |
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| hongbin | Yes, you can use magnumclient in your python app. | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Maddox proposed openstack/magnum: Add initial documentation for troubleshooting gate https://review.openstack.org/267802 | 20:29 |
| ptoohill_mids | cool, then besides custom images I think I have an idea how to get this going | 20:29 |
| hongbin | For the custom images | 20:29 |
| Tango | ptoohill_mids: If you have requirements for creating custom image, please feel free to provide input in the existing blueprint | 20:30 |
| hongbin | That might be a problem, you might need to customize the installation scripts | 20:30 |
| Tango | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/ubuntu-image-build | 20:30 |
| thomasem | dimtruck and I have been digging into devstack gate issues for a few days now and figured we'd share some documentation about troubleshooting gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267802/2 | 20:31 |
| ptoohill_mids | Will do, I think need to gather a bit more info to verify what were actually using on there, i'm pretty sure we have an agent for our custom stuff and thats something we need | 20:31 |
| thomasem | if anyone has time for some review :D | 20:31 |
| Tango | thomasem: Thanks Thomas, I saw that | 20:31 |
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| Tango | thomasem: Very timely! | 20:31 |
| thomasem | =] | 20:31 |
| ptoohill_mids | Thanks again Tango, hongbin. Ill take this info and get rolling. | 20:32 |
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| hongbin | ptoohill_mids: welcome | 20:32 |
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| thomasem | Tango: awesome. I've mostly been stuck in nova gate tests, but it's very similar with Magnum since Dimitry applied the same stuff there. | 20:34 |
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| thomasem | Speaking of - we're in the process of trying to stop Libvirt/LXC from being deprecated in Nova. | 20:35 |
| thomasem | since I anticipate Magnum using that driver soon for nesting containers, I just wanted to make y'all aware of the threat if you weren't. | 20:35 |
| thomasem | We're working to get voting gate for that driver to build a case against deprecation | 20:35 |
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| vilobhmm11 | thomasen : please point to the patch that needs review | 20:38 |
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| thomasem | vilobhmm11: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267802/2 | 20:42 |
| thomasem | Sorry, thought I linked to it before | 20:42 |
| ptoohill_mids | thomasem, You think theres a chance of them not going forward with deprecation? | 20:44 |
| thomasem | ptoohill_mids: I do, yes. | 20:45 |
| thomasem | ptoohill_mids: if we can get this job passing consistently and show that someone cares a lot about the driver. | 20:45 |
| ptoohill_mids | I think that fits our use case a bit better then magnum would, so I (we, lbaas) would like to utilized that in nova | 20:45 |
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| ptoohill_mids | hmm | 20:45 |
| thomasem | The reason it was getting deprecated is because nobody was stepping up to maintain it proper. | 20:45 |
| ptoohill_mids | ah | 20:45 |
| ptoohill_mids | I thought it was a scope thing | 20:46 |
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| thomasem | So, when I found out it was already supposed to be deprecated and nobody had continued working on the experimental job to usher it to non-voting or voting, I figured we needed to pick that up quickly and get it moving. | 20:46 |
| thomasem | They are thinking of removing containers from the Nova mission: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256440/ | 20:46 |
| thomasem | So, that's also of concern. But, according to the Nova PTL, it shouldn't be that big of a deal for existing Nova functionality | 20:47 |
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| thomasem | Overall, we just need to keep that driver maintained | 20:47 |
| thomasem | Or it will find itself back where it is now, and that's not a good place to be. | 20:47 |
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| thomasem | ptoohill_mids: does that help? | 20:49 |
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| ptoohill_mids | thomasem, Which job, could you link me please? | 20:51 |
| thomasem | ptoohill_mids: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml#L667-L701 | 20:52 |
| ptoohill_mids | The nova mission was the part i seen before and had me concerned. I am tempted now to not depend on potentially deprecated functions and just go with magnum. | 20:53 |
| * ptoohill_mids torn | 20:54 | |
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| ptoohill_mids | I need to do some testing/more reading to get a feel for things | 20:54 |
| ptoohill_mids | the lxc/docker stuff would just be a config change and should pretty much plugin to what we have now. If we go magnum thats different drivers/workflows etc.. | 20:55 |
| thomasem | ptoohill_mids: depends on what you're going for, I guess. | 20:56 |
| ptoohill_mids | yea, hrmmm | 20:56 |
| ptoohill_mids | In either case I appreciate the info | 20:56 |
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| thomasem | If you're looking for your bottom-most infrastructure to be containers, you'll still be stuck with whatever's backing Magnum being something like Libvirt/LXC | 20:57 |
| thomasem | well, once-removed, not bottom-most | 20:57 |
| thomasem | if that makes sense | 20:57 |
| ptoohill_mids | Yea, we want our 'backend' or the 'thing' running our loadbalancing software to be in containers | 20:58 |
| thomasem | But does it matter if those containers are running inside a VM? | 20:58 |
| thomasem | that's the question I'm posing. | 20:58 |
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| ptoohill_mids | At this point, no, but it looks like baremetal support is coming soon/partially there so that would be another option for operator | 20:58 |
| ptoohill_mids | if im understanding that correctly | 20:59 |
| ptoohill_mids | so, having containers in vm is completely acceptable as of now | 20:59 |
| thomasem | yeah, that's another option | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Add mandatory_attrs to BayModelPatchType https://review.openstack.org/262942 | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/magnum: Propose Magnum Resource Quota https://review.openstack.org/266662 | 22:53 |
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