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openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/magnum: [suse] Setting correct permissions for Kubernetes files https://review.openstack.org/411865 | 05:40 |
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openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/magnum: [suse] Update security group for kube_masters https://review.openstack.org/411857 | 05:46 |
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openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/magnum: [suse] Update k8s_opensuse_v1 driver https://review.openstack.org/400842 | 06:07 |
openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/magnum: [suse] Add TLS support for k8s_opensuse_v1 driver https://review.openstack.org/411869 | 06:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Prateek khushalani proposed openstack/magnum: To take project and domain details from configuration in Mitaka relase, mandatory paramteres needed by keysonte V3 https://review.openstack.org/416171 | 08:12 |
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adrian_otto | Notice: Our team meeting will begin in about 10 minutes at 1600 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:51 |
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strigazi_ | adrian_otto Hi, I won't be able to attend today's meeting. I'll attend next week. | 15:53 |
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adrian_otto | thanks strigazi_AFK | 15:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum-ui: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/415398 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum-ui: Using sys.exit(main()) instead of main() https://review.openstack.org/415321 | 18:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/magnum: Magnum stats API https://review.openstack.org/391301 | 20:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/magnum: Add build script and DIB element for Fedora image https://review.openstack.org/409251 | 20:27 |
openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/magnum: Add driver for (non-Atomic) Fedora https://review.openstack.org/416345 | 20:27 |
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swatson | Does anyone know the default location for the magnum DB? | 20:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/magnum: Magnum stats API https://review.openstack.org/391301 | 20:56 |
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Drago | swatson: Not sure if there is one. I think it connects to the db using CONF.database.connection | 21:04 |
swatson | Drago: I found that and it should just pull the current directory and stick "magnum.sqlite" to the end of it | 21:05 |
swatson | But a search on my system didn't pull up anything for me, even though magnum cluster-template-create/list both showed stuff working | 21:05 |
Drago | swatson: Was this what you found? https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/conf/database.py#L19 | 21:06 |
Drago | swatson: Check your magnum.conf. Is there anything under [database]? | 21:07 |
swatson | Drago: Yep, that's the line I'm talking about | 21:07 |
swatson | Drago: Yeah, it's using MSQL | 21:08 |
swatson | MYSQL* | 21:08 |
swatson | Drago: That's the location I needed, then. Thanks! | 21:09 |
Drago | swatson: Cool, so there was something in magnum.conf or it was using the default? | 21:09 |
swatson | Drago: Magnum.conf had a mysql address listed under [database] | 21:10 |
Drago | Gotcha | 21:10 |
swatson | But now I'm wondering what the default DB settings really are | 21:11 |
swatson | Drago: that magnum.conf gets generated from the magnum/etc/magnum-config-generator.conf stuff doesn't it? | 21:11 |
swatson | magnum/etc/magnum/magnum-config-generator.conf*\ | 21:11 |
Drago | swatson: Are you using devstack? | 21:12 |
randallburt | swatson: not automatically. in the gates, its configured by the ds plugin IIRC | 21:12 |
swatson | Drago: Yes | 21:12 |
Drago | swatson: Then what randallburt said is what's probably going on | 21:12 |
swatson | DS chooses which DB magnum uses? | 21:13 |
Drago | swatson: https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/devstack/lib/magnum#L132 | 21:13 |
randallburt | swatson: sorta. IIRC, the devstack magnum plugin does. | 21:13 |
randallburt | yep | 21:13 |
randallburt | thanks Drago | 21:13 |
Drago | Looks like it's hardcoded to magnum | 21:13 |
swatson | Drago: Ah, OK | 21:13 |
swatson | So those default SQLite strings are really for naked magnum, sans DevStack? | 21:14 |
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Drago | swatson: Probably. Who knows if they work though. I have a feeling they're untested | 21:19 |
swatson | Drago: I think I just confirmed for myself they're untested :P | 21:20 |
swatson | Well, I suppose they more or less work | 21:20 |
swatson | But the migrations look like are busted for Sqlite. Been trying to verify that | 21:20 |
openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/magnum: Magnum stats API https://review.openstack.org/391301 | 21:23 |
randallburt | I don't think it matters for Sqlite, does it? | 21:24 |
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swatson | randallburt: I'm not sure our migration scripts were working with SQLite correctly. But I'm still trying to verify whether the migration tests I have right now are working as expected | 21:38 |
randallburt | swatson: k | 21:38 |
openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/magnum: Magnum stats API https://review.openstack.org/391301 | 21:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-magnumclient: Allow cluster-config on cluster status 'ROLLBACK_COMPLETE' https://review.openstack.org/414809 | 22:34 |
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