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| flwang | strigazi: ping re security group rules of minion nodes | 08:58 |
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| strigazi | flwang: hi | 09:25 |
| flwang | strigazi: hello | 09:25 |
| flwang | mind having a chat about the security groups rules? | 09:26 |
| strigazi | sure | 09:26 |
| strigazi | What's the problem, what do you propose to do? | 09:27 |
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| flwang | strigazi: i'd like to get your comments if we can add a new config like 'enabled_restricted_security_for_minions_security_group' | 09:28 |
| flwang | so that we can close all ports for minion nodes for external | 09:29 |
| flwang | and only expose services by LB or ingress | 09:29 |
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| flwang | as I mentioned last time, GKE is doing that | 09:30 |
| strigazi | if we close all ports how ingress is going to work? | 09:31 |
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| flwang | sorry, i mean only expose by LB | 09:33 |
| strigazi | fyi, we (CERN) don't have security groups, so you will not get feedback from us | 09:33 |
| flwang | or just open some very common port, like 80 | 09:33 |
| strigazi | docs to GKE for which ports they have open? | 09:33 |
| flwang | wait a sec, let me show you | 09:33 |
| strigazi | how are we going to make security groups configurable? | 09:33 |
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| flwang | strigazi: https://imgur.com/a/lNvkE | 09:35 |
| flwang | strigazi: i don't know now, that's the thing we may need input from ricolin | 09:35 |
| flwang | strigazi: FWIW, opening all ports for all sources is not a secure way, isn't it? | 09:36 |
| strigazi | My only concern is changing a lot the templates from what people are used to. | 09:36 |
| strigazi | it is not, but | 09:36 |
| strigazi | a more secure way is to not have fips on the worker nodes | 09:36 |
| flwang | strigazi: agree | 09:37 |
| flwang | would you mind reminding me the work/blueprint about that? | 09:38 |
| strigazi | We can do that first. Having fips and all ports closed at the same time, doesn't make a lot of sense | 09:38 |
| strigazi | flwang: let me find it | 09:38 |
| strigazi | flwang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395095/ | 09:39 |
| flwang | strigazi: ah, yes | 09:39 |
| flwang | that's the thing i have claimed ;) | 09:39 |
| flwang | i will take a further look about the two directions | 09:40 |
| strigazi | flwang: i think this one is much more important and useful for public clouds | 09:41 |
| flwang | yep, i agree | 09:41 |
| strigazi | or all clouds | 09:41 |
| flwang | +1 | 09:41 |
| flwang | i'm happy with this topic now, let's move to next one | 09:41 |
| flwang | as for the work of cotyledon investigation, i started it today | 09:42 |
| strigazi | how that goes? | 09:42 |
| flwang | based on my understanding, the main purpose of the replacement is for periodic task, right? | 09:42 |
| flwang | or, we want to replace all the oslo.service we're using? | 09:42 |
| strigazi | get rid of eventlet | 09:43 |
| strigazi | oslo.service depends on it | 09:43 |
| strigazi | eventlet is incompatible with the kubernetes client | 09:43 |
| flwang | oslo.service is actually written on top of eventlet to provide two main features: periodic tasks and workers processes management The first feature was replaced by another library called futurist and the second feature is superseded by Cotyledon. | 09:44 |
| strigazi | yes, from cotyledon docs | 09:44 |
| flwang | based on above statement, if we want to totally remove oslo.service, we may need both of futurist and cotyledon | 09:44 |
| strigazi | yes | 09:44 |
| flwang | that's not a minor change i would say | 09:45 |
| strigazi | I am not sure if it is the right thing to do | 09:45 |
| flwang | do we have a bug to track that? | 09:45 |
| strigazi | yes | 09:45 |
| strigazi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1746510 | 09:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746510 in Magnum "Kubernetes client is incompatible with evenlet and breaks the periodic tasks" [Undecided,New] | 09:46 |
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| strigazi | The other options is to use our own kubernetes client implementation with python requests | 09:46 |
| strigazi | we don't have one | 09:47 |
| strigazi | it means, write one | 09:47 |
| strigazi | Or we fix eventlet :) | 09:47 |
| flwang | yep, like i mentioned last time | 09:47 |
| strigazi | it's clear that writing again the client is far from optimal | 09:48 |
| flwang | write a simple wrapper on top of our own 'requests' based client and k8s client, could be the better way | 09:48 |
| strigazi | isn't it? | 09:48 |
| flwang | i know, but totally replace oslo.service is a big change, i'm just not sure if it worth the benefit | 09:49 |
| strigazi | i'm not saying it is worth it. That's why asked for someone to investigate :) | 09:50 |
| flwang | i saw qinling is using cotyledon to address this issue, so maybe we can try | 09:53 |
| flwang | the ptl of qinling is my colleague | 09:54 |
| flwang | i'm going to take this bug, but please don't expect it can be fix in short term, i hope i can fix it in Rocky | 09:55 |
| strigazi | ok, it's not very high at the moment | 09:55 |
| flwang | cool | 09:56 |
| flwang | so let's move to next one? ;) | 09:56 |
| strigazi | ok | 09:56 |
| flwang | sorry for so many questions | 09:56 |
| flwang | as I mentioned yesterday, i'm testing prometheus, and I found some issues | 09:57 |
| strigazi | don't think about it, questions are good :) | 09:57 |
| flwang | 1. prometheus doesn't work with kube-proxy, because https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/1583 are you aware of that? | 09:58 |
| strigazi | Can you try move it from kube-system to prometheus-monitoring namespace? I don't know about this bug. We had it wotking until we moved to kube 1.9 and the kubernetes-dashboard | 09:59 |
| strigazi | with nodeport it was working for me | 10:00 |
| flwang | the short summary is https://camo.githubusercontent.com/360e0d525ecdabb7bee23370f00f72734ee91c53/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f4762494643555a2e706e67 the file is 404 because proxy | 10:00 |
| flwang | yes, that's the #2 i'm gonna ask | 10:01 |
| flwang | 2. with node port | 10:01 |
| flwang | i'm getting error like "time="2018-03-14T03:17:36Z" level=error msg="github.com/prometheus/prometheus/discovery/kubernetes/kubernetes.go:182: Failed to list *v1.Service: services is forbidden: User "system:serviceaccount:kube-system:default" cannot list services at the cluster scope" component="kube_client_runtime" source="kubernetes.go:76" | 10:01 |
| flwang | seems it's a RBAC issue, and I can't see any RBAC config for prometheus, am i missing anything? | 10:02 |
| flwang | i think we need to create this https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/blob/master/documentation/examples/rbac-setup.yml for prometheus? | 10:03 |
| strigazi | yes, after RBAC we need to add roles | 10:05 |
| strigazi | Are you going to offer both options? | 10:05 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok, i will open a bug | 10:05 |
| flwang | both means prometheus and heapster? | 10:05 |
| strigazi | kube-dash and prom? | 10:05 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:05 |
| flwang | i'm not sure, TBH | 10:05 |
| strigazi | We stopped advertising prometheus | 10:05 |
| flwang | but we would like to make sure everything we're providing works | 10:06 |
| flwang | we=cern or magnum? | 10:06 |
| strigazi | cern | 10:06 |
| flwang | ok | 10:06 |
| flwang | fair enough | 10:06 |
| flwang | but as a open source project | 10:06 |
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| flwang | we still need to make sure what we're delivering work, no? | 10:07 |
| strigazi | as a open source project was had zero feedback on it so far | 10:07 |
| flwang | haha | 10:07 |
| strigazi | Not a single user | 10:07 |
| strigazi | you are the first asking about it | 10:07 |
| flwang | that means Catalyst Cloud is doing serious contribution ;) | 10:08 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:08 |
| flwang | anyway, i will open a bug to fix it | 10:08 |
| strigazi | ok | 10:08 |
| flwang | and in the future, i may contribute back a user doc about it | 10:09 |
| strigazi | be sure to also move it to another namespace | 10:09 |
| flwang | like default? | 10:09 |
| strigazi | I was working on this patch but I abandoned it since there was no interest from us and anyone else. | 10:09 |
| flwang | could you please share the link? | 10:10 |
| strigazi | flwang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508172/ | 10:10 |
| flwang | is there any evidence users are going to heapster than prometheus? | 10:10 |
| strigazi | From the kube community, I think for monitoing kube itself yes, but for monitoing apps they use prometheus | 10:11 |
| strigazi | Our prom deployment though targets to monitor the cluster | 10:12 |
| flwang | strigazi: makes sense for me | 10:12 |
| strigazi | not the applications | 10:12 |
| flwang | good to know | 10:12 |
| flwang | i will dig into this area and bring feedback if you're still interested in | 10:13 |
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| strigazi | sounds good | 10:16 |
| strigazi | I have one for you | 10:16 |
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| strigazi | And maybe kong | 10:17 |
| strigazi | I saw that you worked a bit on the keystone authn and authz with kubernetes. I would like to add in magnum | 10:18 |
| strigazi | *to add it in magnum | 10:18 |
| strigazi | flwang: thoughts ^^ | 10:18 |
| flwang | hah, yep, we tested the keystone integration before | 10:19 |
| flwang | how did you know that? | 10:19 |
| strigazi | mailing list | 10:19 |
| strigazi | he was asking questions | 10:19 |
| flwang | yes | 10:19 |
| flwang | i don't think there are two much to do in magnum | 10:20 |
| flwang | what do you mean 'add in magnum'? | 10:20 |
| flwang | s/two/too | 10:20 |
| strigazi | have an option to enable the webhooks | 10:20 |
| flwang | strigazi: that's good idea | 10:21 |
| flwang | then run it on the master node? | 10:21 |
| strigazi | it is a standalone patch and easy to do, ye | 10:21 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:21 |
| flwang | cool, i will open a bug to track the work | 10:22 |
| flwang | enable_keystone_integration? | 10:22 |
| strigazi | kong: is not around atm, can you ask him if he is interested to do it, since he worked on it? | 10:23 |
| strigazi | enable_keystone_authz | 10:23 |
| strigazi | or enable_keystone_authorization | 10:23 |
| flwang | ok | 10:24 |
| strigazi | integration is a bit vague, we can work the name :) | 10:24 |
| flwang | i will talk with him, technically, i'm his manager, so shouldn't be a big problem ;) | 10:24 |
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| strigazi | I thought since he worked on it, we would duplicate the effort if one of us started looking from scratch | 10:25 |
| flwang | so it will be a new config and introduce db schema change, or you just want to see a label? | 10:25 |
| strigazi | only one label | 10:26 |
| flwang | strigazi: fair enough | 10:26 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok | 10:26 |
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| flwang | strigazi: just to be clear, you just say authz, how about auth? | 10:29 |
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| flwang | and if we use authz of keystone for k8s, based on my knowledge, it may break the existing rbac for all the service we're providing, is it? | 10:31 |
| flwang | or we have to update the role for each service when we enabling keystone authz | 10:32 |
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| strigazi | We can give the cluster project the clusterrole | 10:40 |
| strigazi | it won't break anything | 10:41 |
| strigazi | We will test anyway :) | 10:41 |
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| flwang | strigazi: cool | 11:06 |
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| flwang | strigazi: btw, is rochapor1o around? | 11:07 |
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| strigazi | flwang: no | 11:11 |
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| flwang | strigazi: wouldn't you happen to have tested the traefik before, would you? | 11:12 |
| strigazi | flwang: we did test it | 11:12 |
| flwang | why don't we have traefic ui as well? | 11:13 |
| strigazi | we do | 11:13 |
| strigazi | port 8080 where traefik is running | 11:13 |
| flwang | oh, really? maybe i missed it | 11:13 |
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| flwang | i will check it again, is it reachable by proxy? | 11:14 |
| strigazi | nodeport | 11:14 |
| flwang | interesting | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum-tempest-plugin master: Fix links to build docs https://review.openstack.org/528254 | 15:53 |
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| pwd | when starting kubernetes cluster, I can see the master and minion instances up and running, running "heat stack-list -n" show all stack_status in CREATE_COMPLETE, but running "openstack coe cluster list" shows CREATE_IN_PROGRESS and does not move to CREATE_COMPLETE state, where can it go wrong? | 21:51 |
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| flwang | pwd: I would suggest enable the debug mode, and then check code here https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/service/periodic.py#L65 | 22:14 |
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| flwang | pwd: and here https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/heat/driver.py#L86 | 22:14 |
| flwang | so generally, there is a poller. it will check the stack status and then update cluster status accordingly | 22:15 |
| flwang | if the cluster status can't be updated, that probably means the poller is not working correctly | 22:15 |
| flwang | hope that helps | 22:16 |
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| pwd | flwang: you mean set debug=true in /etc/magnum/magnum.conf and check the log file? which location does the log write to ? my /var/log/magnum directory is empty | 22:24 |
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| pwd | flwang: I restarted openstack-magnum-api.service and openstack-magnum-conductor.service and now the cluster changed to CREATE_COMPLETE state | 22:35 |
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| pwd | flwang: running "kubectl -n kube-system get po" results in error message: Error from server (Forbidden): pods is forbidden: User "Magnum User" cannot list pods in the namespace "kube-system" | 22:39 |
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| flwang | pwd: where are you running the kubectl command? | 22:55 |
| flwang | lunch time, brb | 22:55 |
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| pwd | flwang: from controller | 22:57 |
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| DimGR | hi strigazi | 23:00 |
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| flwang | pwd: did you run the 'eval' command? | 23:20 |
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