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| openstackgerrit | Sayali Lunkad proposed openstack/magnum master: Adding documentations about network in vms https://review.openstack.org/552099 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayali Lunkad proposed openstack/magnum master: Adding glossary.rst https://review.openstack.org/556857 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Sayali Lunkad proposed openstack/magnum master: Adding documentations about network in vms https://review.openstack.org/552099 | 09:35 |
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| flwang | strigazi_: rochapor1o: do we have meeting today? | 09:47 |
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| strigazi_ | ##startmeeting containers | 10:00 |
| strigazi_ | #startmeeting containers | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 10 10:00:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is strigazi_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 10:00 |
| strigazi_ | #topic Roll Call | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 10:00 | |
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| slunkad | hi | 10:02 |
| strigazi | hello slunkad | 10:02 |
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| flwang | o/ | 10:03 |
| strigazi | Hello flwang | 10:03 |
| flwang | strigazi: hello | 10:03 |
| flwang | i need to catch up with you after the meeting ;) | 10:03 |
| strigazi | flwang: sure :) | 10:03 |
| strigazi | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas | 10:04 |
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| strigazi | I have potentially good news on our issue with eventlet flwang, this solution worked for me: | 10:04 |
| strigazi | https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/172#issuecomment-379421165 | 10:04 |
| flwang | strigazi: great | 10:05 |
| flwang | strigazi: if we can fix it in eventlet, then i can save my time to focus on the monitoring part | 10:05 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:06 |
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| ricolin__ | O/ | 10:07 |
| strigazi | From my side, I did some progress on upgrades and moved all minion software configs to software deployements | 10:07 |
| strigazi | hi ricolin__ | 10:07 |
| flwang | strigazi: as for the upgrade sepc, i left a comment recently | 10:08 |
| strigazi | I'll push the patch after the meeting, slunkad it will be interesting for you, to rotate the trust in the cluster | 10:08 |
| strigazi | flwang: I'll have a look | 10:08 |
| strigazi | Also, I pushed the patch for adding flannel in the master node. | 10:09 |
| slunkad | strigazi: hmm would we need to consider that for upgrades too? | 10:09 |
| strigazi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558836/ | 10:09 |
| flwang | strigazi: generally, when we say 'upgrade', it means upgrade the version of the coe. | 10:09 |
| flwang | but seems we don't have an API to expose that info for end user | 10:09 |
| strigazi | strigazi: and OS | 10:09 |
| flwang | strigazi: yes | 10:09 |
| flwang | and seems it's not mentioned in your sepc unless i missed | 10:10 |
| strigazi | yes, I'll push a WIP for the API reference | 10:10 |
| flwang | strigazi: great, that's the thing i'm looking forward to | 10:10 |
| panfy | Hi folks | 10:11 |
| strigazi | slunkad: the main difference (in magnum context ) between SoftwareConfig and deployment is that configs are immutabl whereas deployments can cange | 10:12 |
| strigazi | /s/cange/change | 10:12 |
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| flwang | panfy: hello | 10:12 |
| slunkad | ok | 10:13 |
| strigazi | And on more bit on syscontainers, I did some testing on the speed that the containers are pulled into the ostree storage and it is a bit slow. Could someone reproduce, I'm fetching the silly script I have | 10:14 |
| flwang | strigazi: on nested virt or just bare metal? | 10:15 |
| strigazi | flwang: nested virt | 10:15 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok, i can test it | 10:16 |
| strigazi | I'm doing a sed from our private registry | 10:16 |
| flwang | strigazi: btw, cern is using a private registry? | 10:16 |
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| strigazi | http://paste.openstack.org/show/718800/ | 10:18 |
| strigazi | flwang: yes, we have a gitlab deployment which has a container registry | 10:19 |
| flwang | strigazi: good to know, thanks | 10:19 |
| strigazi | And I owe to panfy the docs to build syscontainers | 10:20 |
| strigazi | That's it from me | 10:21 |
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| flwang | ok, my turn | 10:21 |
| panfy | Yeah, I have try it, https://hub.docker.com/u/fengyunpan/ | 10:22 |
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| flwang | i have proposed the fix for NetworkManager working with calico | 10:22 |
| flwang | merging into the same calico-node on k8s master patch | 10:22 |
| flwang | and i also have a fix for Prometheus missing RBAC | 10:22 |
| strigazi | flwang: do we need the networkmanager fix in the master node too? | 10:23 |
| flwang | Besides, i have another patch fixing the HA of DNS pod | 10:23 |
| flwang | strigazi: we don't because there is no user's workload(pod) running on master kubelet | 10:23 |
| flwang | in otherwords, there is no interface created by calico on master node | 10:24 |
| strigazi | flwang: would there be any implication on adding the same recipe on the master? | 10:25 |
| flwang | strigazi: no, i don't think so | 10:26 |
| strigazi | flwang: does kubectl proxy work with this fix? | 10:26 |
| flwang | because the solution just telling NetworkManager don't manage the interface created by calico | 10:26 |
| flwang | calico will take care them | 10:27 |
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| flwang | strigazi: yes | 10:27 |
| flwang | no impact for kubectl proxy based on my understanding | 10:27 |
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| strigazi | ok | 10:27 |
| strigazi | the dns autoscaler is still in WIP? | 10:27 |
| flwang | it's ready and I have tested, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555223/3/magnum/drivers/common/templates/kubernetes/fragments/core-dns-service.sh | 10:28 |
| flwang | but i'd like to get you guys opinion | 10:28 |
| flwang | because currently i'm using the same way used by GKE | 10:28 |
| flwang | but TBH, i think DaemonSet can achieve the same goal | 10:28 |
| strigazi | in 100node cluster isn't it an overkill? | 10:29 |
| strigazi | to have a DS? | 10:29 |
| flwang | for that case, we can use the way i'm proposing | 10:31 |
| flwang | we can define scale strategy | 10:31 |
| strigazi | flwang: where does this recipe for autoscaling come from? Is there a source? | 10:31 |
| flwang | but IMHO, using one pod for a prod k8s cluster is not a best practice | 10:31 |
| flwang | strigazi: yes, wait a sec | 10:32 |
| flwang | strigazi: https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/cluster-proportional-autoscaler | 10:32 |
| flwang | GKE is using it as well, as i mentioned above | 10:32 |
| strigazi | flwang: I think the autoscaler is better than ds and better than a single pod as it is now. | 10:33 |
| flwang | strigazi: cool, then i will polish the auto scaling policy a bit to get a balance | 10:33 |
| flwang | thanks for the feedback | 10:33 |
| panfy | 'define scale strategy' sounds good. | 10:34 |
| flwang | panfy: thanks for the feedback | 10:35 |
| strigazi | Would it make sense to have a generic strategy and then let the cluster admin modify for his needs? | 10:36 |
| flwang | strigazi: cluster admin can adjust the policy by change the configmap dynamically | 10:37 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:37 |
| flwang | "The ConfigMap provides the configuration parameters, allowing on-the-fly changes(including control mode) without rebuilding or restarting the scaler containers/pods." | 10:37 |
| flwang | so yes | 10:37 |
| strigazi | yes, I mean, we won't have an option for this in magnum | 10:38 |
| flwang | i don't think it's necessary | 10:38 |
| flwang | we just need to document it somewhere | 10:38 |
| flwang | at least, in release note | 10:38 |
| flwang | i will add a release note anyway | 10:39 |
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| flwang | and maybe a user guide | 10:39 |
| strigazi | yes | 10:39 |
| flwang | thanks for reminding me | 10:39 |
| strigazi | flwang: any news on keystone auth? | 10:41 |
| flwang | strigazi: i have built a docker image | 10:41 |
| flwang | i'm thinking if we can publish it on openstackmagnum account | 10:41 |
| flwang | and i'm about to write code this week | 10:41 |
| flwang | the code should be easy, just some testing work | 10:42 |
| strigazi | how is it going to run on the cluster? | 10:42 |
| strigazi | as docker, syscontainer, pod? | 10:42 |
| strigazi | as docker container, syscontainer, pod? | 10:42 |
| flwang | we can just run it as a pod | 10:42 |
| strigazi | on the master node | 10:43 |
| strigazi | ? | 10:43 |
| flwang | yes | 10:43 |
| strigazi | so kubelet must be always present | 10:43 |
| flwang | probably, i have dig into the details, lingxian did the original test | 10:43 |
| flwang | i will double check with him | 10:43 |
| flwang | i mean 'i haven't dig into the details', sorry | 10:44 |
| strigazi | ok, thanks | 10:44 |
| strigazi | Do you want to add anything else? | 10:45 |
| flwang | that's all from my side, thanks | 10:45 |
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| panfy | BTW, can we add a option "enable_master_kubelet"? If enable_master_kubelet is true, run kubelet syscontainer on master, or not run kubelet on master | 10:47 |
| panfy | In other words, why not run kubelet syscontainer on master? | 10:48 |
| strigazi | panfy: we could, but if need it for many use cases, we might just put it back | 10:48 |
| flwang | strigazi: +1 | 10:51 |
| flwang | panfy: as strigazi said, we can revisit this later | 10:51 |
| strigazi | I'll check what we can with size of the system containers and how we can do better | 10:51 |
| panfy | strigazi: +1 flwang: +1 | 10:51 |
| flwang | but, one of the topics we recently discussed is, hide the master node for end user, so.... | 10:52 |
| flwang | anyway, it's still under discussing, will see | 10:55 |
| panfy | I find that remove kubelet and kube-proxy from master by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514604/ | 10:55 |
| flwang | panfy: yes, it's removed in queens | 10:56 |
| strigazi | we had been runing kubelet for a couple of releases in the master nodes only for the the kubernetes components which where moved to the syscontainers | 10:57 |
| strigazi | being very lucky, when I removed it, we started to need it again | 10:57 |
| panfy | Oh, I see, thx | 10:57 |
| panfy | yaaas, intresting | 10:58 |
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| strigazi | we are out of time, we can continue in the channel, thanks | 10:59 |
| strigazi | #endmeeting | 10:59 |
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| strigazi_ | #endmeeting | 10:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Containers Team" | 10:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 10 10:59:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-04-10-10.00.html | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-04-10-10.00.txt | 10:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-04-10-10.00.log.html | 10:59 |
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