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| jakeyip | sorry was away. Saw the patch, thanks lxkong! I really like removing FIP from minions. | 04:35 |
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| jakeyip | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606646/ this got pinged on the mailing list, not sure what the cores want to do with it? | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] Improve floating IP allocation https://review.openstack.org/641547 | 05:50 |
| lxkong | jakeyip: the patch has been updated according to the discussion this morning, the main difference with the previous patshset is that a new label is introduced. Please take a look at the patch if you're interested. Thanks | 05:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] Improve floating IP allocation https://review.openstack.org/641547 | 09:50 |
| alisanhaji | Hi people of the world, I have a question about Ironic support with Magnum. Is it stable or is it still not fully supported as said in the doc? Thanks | 10:17 |
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| flwang1 | strigazi: any luck you're around? i'd like to get comments about add default keystone auth policy | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: ci: Disable functional tests https://review.openstack.org/642872 | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: Revert "ci: Disable functional tests" https://review.openstack.org/642873 | 19:42 |
| eandersson_ | strigazi, flwang https://review.openstack.org/#/c/637267/ | 19:52 |
| eandersson_ | Lets get this patch moving as well | 19:52 |
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| flwang | strigazi: still around? | 20:00 |
| strigazi | flwang: we have a meeting in 57' right? | 20:04 |
| flwang | strigazi: yes | 20:04 |
| eandersson_ | Isn't the meeting now? | 20:04 |
| flwang | strigazi: i don't quite understand https://review.openstack.org/642873 | 20:04 |
| eandersson_ | Did the timezone only change in the US? :'( | 20:04 |
| strigazi | eandersson_: the meeting is at 2100 UTC | 20:04 |
| flwang | why do you propose it now? | 20:05 |
| eandersson_ | I will unfortunately miss the meeting then. | 20:05 |
| eandersson_ | My meeting invite is not set to account for the timezone difference. :'( | 20:05 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/642873 placeholder for when the CI is fixed | 20:06 |
| eandersson_ | I'll ask one of my colleagues to attend. | 20:06 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok, better add a comment or workflow -1 to avoid confusing the other reviewers? | 20:07 |
| strigazi | done | 20:08 |
| flwang | strigazi: cheers | 20:08 |
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| flwang | strigazi: i'm going to add a default(out-of-box) policy for keystone auth, just like GKE, will create k8s-admin, k8s-developer, k8s-viewer in devstack, and a new config option to point to the default rules, so that any user can play this nice feature out of box | 20:10 |
| strigazi | you want to add extra roles in keystone? | 20:10 |
| strigazi | not sure if it is required | 20:11 |
| flwang | yep | 20:11 |
| strigazi | I think cluster roles and clusterrolebindings are enough, no? | 20:11 |
| flwang | no, it's different layer | 20:11 |
| flwang | i'm talking about the roles for k8s cluster users | 20:12 |
| strigazi | what are you going to add in the cluster? | 20:13 |
| flwang | now there is no default policy rule for users though we're enabling the keystone auth by default | 20:13 |
| flwang | strigazi: check if there is a given policy, if there is, using it instead of the default one at https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/common/templates/kubernetes/fragments/enable-keystone-auth.sh#L68 | 20:14 |
| flwang | with current policy, there is only authN, no authZ, user can't do anything for the cluster, but get the 403 error | 20:14 |
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| strigazi | Isn't easier for users to add roles in k8s instead of keystone? | 20:17 |
| strigazi | I mean, end users don't have access to keystone, that's why I'm saying it | 20:17 |
| flwang | for keystone auth, user has to use role in keystone instead of k8s | 20:17 |
| strigazi | yes, for keystone authz | 20:18 |
| flwang | right, so i'd like to support those roles in devstack, so that the devstack user can play the full feature after installation without any extra step | 20:19 |
| strigazi | The only difficult part is that the OpenStack admins set the roles in keystone while in kubernetes the cluser owner | 20:19 |
| strigazi | We can add them in keystone in devstack | 20:19 |
| flwang | strigazi: and this can resolve the vendor specific policy requirement | 20:20 |
| flwang | we had discussion when i proposed the keystone auth patch, with current implement, as a vendor, they can't use the default policy (in magnum code), they have to ask the k8s user to create the configmap | 20:21 |
| strigazi | push a patch. IMO, less keystone, more k8s is better ;) | 20:22 |
| strigazi | I thought we both had simple keystone configs | 20:23 |
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| strigazi | in our cloud, who manages kubernetes? | 20:25 |
| strigazi | the user or the cloud ops? | 20:25 |
| flwang | in our cloud === do you mean in catalyst cloud? | 20:26 |
| strigazi | yes | 20:26 |
| flwang | cloud ops, we're using the patten like GKE | 20:26 |
| strigazi | ahh ok | 20:26 |
| flwang | you know, in GKE, almost everything of the cluster is managed by Google | 20:27 |
| flwang | user just use it | 20:27 |
| flwang | the cluster is auto scaled, auto repaired, auto billed :D | 20:27 |
| strigazi | auto scaled, auto repaired, auto billed, can also be owned by the user | 20:28 |
| strigazi | go for it | 20:28 |
| flwang | yep, i know, it's just a different service delivery model | 20:29 |
| flwang | and I'm confident Magnum can deal with both of them | 20:29 |
| flwang | strigazi: thanks for the support | 20:29 |
| flwang | strigazi: as for the PR in CA, anything else we can do to push the CA community to merge it? | 20:30 |
| flwang | i tried to @ some reviewers, but no response | 20:32 |
| strigazi | I don't know. I'll tests again and leave a lgtm tmr. | 20:32 |
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| flwang | strigazi: would you mind me involving some sig-openstack leaders to ask them add comments like "they're happy to support the magnum/heat team's desgin"? do you think it's useful? | 20:34 |
| strigazi | it would really help | 20:34 |
| strigazi | if they agree :) | 20:35 |
| strigazi | who is leading {sig,k8s,openstack}? | 20:35 |
| flwang | let's figure out, i will let you know | 20:36 |
| strigazi | thanks | 20:39 |
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| strigazi | #startmeeting containers | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 12 21:01:21 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 21:01 |
| strigazi | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 21:01 | |
| strigazi | o/ | 21:01 |
| imdigitaljim | o/ | 21:01 |
| alisanhaji | Hi | 21:01 |
| jakeyip | o/ | 21:02 |
| strigazi | hello alisanhaji imdigitaljim | 21:02 |
| strigazi | hi jakeyip | 21:02 |
| jakeyip | hi strigazi | 21:02 |
| ttsiouts | o/ | 21:02 |
| alisanhaji | I would like to talk about some evolutions to magnum, is their a slot for that during the meetings? | 21:02 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: sure, I'll ping you | 21:03 |
| alisanhaji | strigazi: great thanks! | 21:03 |
| strigazi | flwang: ? | 21:03 |
| strigazi | #topic Stories/Tasks | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stories/Tasks (Meeting topic: containers)" | 21:04 | |
| strigazi | 1. ttsiouts pushed a series of patches for nodegroupds | 21:05 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:magnum_nodegroups | 21:05 |
| strigazi | Please have a look, mostly the ones that don't say WIP | 21:05 |
| strigazi | brtknr: ^^ | 21:05 |
| strigazi | I reviewed them in person but I'll leave comments in gerrit too. We need input from others too | 21:06 |
| strigazi | Any questions comments? | 21:06 |
| strigazi | about nodegroups | 21:07 |
| ttsiouts | strigazi: I'll try to push some more things by the end of the week | 21:07 |
| jakeyip | strigazi: I'm trying to find a story describing this... are you able to point me to one? | 21:07 |
| ttsiouts | mostly regarding driver | 21:08 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: https://github.com/openstack/magnum-specs/blob/master/specs/stein/magnum-nodegroups.rst | 21:08 |
| jakeyip | thanks! | 21:08 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: official source http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum-specs/tree/specs/stein/magnum-nodegroups.rst | 21:09 |
| strigazi | for some reason I can't find it in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/magnum-specs/ | 21:09 |
| strigazi | ttsiouts: thanks | 21:09 |
| strigazi | ttsiouts: we might need to update some details in the spec? like min node-count? | 21:10 |
| ttsiouts | strigazi: sure | 21:10 |
| flwang | sorry, i was in a short meeting | 21:10 |
| jakeyip | I see highly available magnum clusters in the text. our users wants to be able to create a cluster with workers in different AZ, does this work allow us to achieve that? | 21:10 |
| strigazi | yes, that is the main use case | 21:11 |
| jakeyip | that's great! | 21:11 |
| strigazi | different AZ and gpu vs 'plain' vm are the most wanted for us too | 21:12 |
| strigazi | any other question about NGs? | 21:13 |
| jakeyip | thanks for the work ttsiouts, strigazi, much appreciated | 21:13 |
| strigazi | ttsiouts++ | 21:14 |
| strigazi | next, | 21:14 |
| strigazi | 2. Support <ClusterID>/actions/resize API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638572/ | 21:14 |
| strigazi | I had a look and it works just fine. The only part we miss is the allow resize on update failed. | 21:14 |
| strigazi | if you can have a look in the patch, it would be great. | 21:15 |
| flwang | strigazi: does the resize for cluster in update_in_progress work for you ? | 21:15 |
| strigazi | flwang: right, that too :) | 21:15 |
| flwang | strigazi: i will propose a new patch set, thanks | 21:16 |
| strigazi | flwang: no, didn't work, he request goes in but doesn't do anything. (that was 24h hours ago) | 21:16 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok, i will test it again to figure it out | 21:16 |
| flwang | and i will leave a comment on the patch | 21:17 |
| strigazi | flwang: you will also have a look in resize on UPDATE_FAILED? | 21:17 |
| strigazi | we also need a client patch | 21:17 |
| flwang | strigazi: sure, i will | 21:18 |
| flwang | i will propose a patch for actions today | 21:18 |
| flwang | or this week at least | 21:18 |
| strigazi | ttsiouts: flwang, we will use resize for NGs? What do you think? I think it makes sense. | 21:19 |
| ttsiouts | yeah.. I think it does... | 21:20 |
| flwang | strigazi: that's on my to-do list, i will add a todo comments in resize patch, i have already put a node group param there for placeholder | 21:20 |
| flwang | we just need to make sure the API is what we want and we can support NG as long as it's landed | 21:21 |
| ttsiouts | flwang: I will also try to review | 21:21 |
| flwang | ttsiouts: it will be great, thanks | 21:21 |
| strigazi | cool | 21:22 |
| strigazi | 3. (WIP) Add cluster upgrade to the API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514959/ | 21:23 |
| strigazi | I tested it with the new PS, looks good, I'm using it for the driver implementation, thanks flwang | 21:24 |
| flwang | strigazi: cool | 21:24 |
| flwang | team, please help review the upgrade api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514959/ | 21:25 |
| flwang | that's one of most important feature we'd like to get it in Stein | 21:25 |
| strigazi | any comments/questions about it? | 21:26 |
| flwang | the only tiny issue now is if user is using the default/built-in tag/version in heat template, we can't get it to raise 400 error if user is doing downgrade accidentally | 21:27 |
| flwang | but personally i think it's OK at this stage | 21:27 |
| strigazi | +1 | 21:27 |
| flwang | because generally the template is proposed by cloud admin and they will be very careful for new template publishing | 21:28 |
| jakeyip | (what do I, as a cloud admin, have to be careful about) ? | 21:28 |
| strigazi | If we find a way to separate labels that are for tags and labels that are switches, to enable/disable features we are good | 21:29 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: version compatibility | 21:29 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: not make big jumps that will have big diff between cluster tempaltes | 21:29 |
| flwang | strigazi: you just reminder me a feature, we should support enable an addon after cluster created | 21:30 |
| flwang | strigazi: we should re define our label name convention | 21:31 |
| flwang | using consistent pattern, which can help mitigate the issue you mentioned above | 21:32 |
| jakeyip | I'm looking at the story at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002210 but I'm getting a "Not Found" for the gerrit topic links e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#q,topic:bp/cluster-upgrades,n,z is it just me? | 21:32 |
| strigazi | not difficult to do, with the upgrade patch it shoudl be doable. | 21:32 |
| strigazi | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002210 | 21:32 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cluster-upgrades+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 21:33 |
| strigazi | any more comments? | 21:36 |
| flwang | let's move to next one | 21:38 |
| jakeyip | I'm ok for now, still have lots of questions about the different edge cases but I'll wait for it to land first | 21:38 |
| strigazi | flwang: do you have something? | 21:38 |
| flwang | strigazi: a little bit. 1. I'm running for the Train cycle PTL | 21:39 |
| strigazi | flwang++ | 21:39 |
| flwang | thank you for the support :D and i do need your support for the following release | 21:40 |
| strigazi | no problem | 21:41 |
| flwang | 2. Stein will be released soon https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html | 21:41 |
| flwang | next week is RC1, we should be quick to get things done with good quality which is a challenge | 21:41 |
| flwang | since we still have quite a lot on the table | 21:41 |
| strigazi | ack | 21:42 |
| flwang | 3. Fedora CoreOS | 21:43 |
| flwang | instead of upgrading to Fedora Atomic 29, we probably should go for Fedora CoreOS 29 | 21:43 |
| flwang | strigazi: thoughts? | 21:43 |
| flwang | or do both for a while | 21:43 |
| flwang | strigazi: for Fedora CoreOS 29, do you think we need to change a lot if we copy the code from fedora-atomic driver? | 21:44 |
| strigazi | we should stick to one | 21:44 |
| strigazi | now that the heat agent does a lot of things, it should be doable | 21:45 |
| strigazi | we just need to move some things to ignition | 21:45 |
| flwang | cool | 21:45 |
| strigazi | not sure with a timeline of one week, maybe two or three | 21:45 |
| jakeyip | I thought they are only merging in Fedora CoreOS 30? is there a fedora coreos 29 image already? | 21:45 |
| strigazi | 29 is bera | 21:45 |
| strigazi | 29 is beta | 21:46 |
| strigazi | https://ci.centos.org/artifacts/fedora-coreos/prod/builds/latest/ | 21:46 |
| jakeyip | I see. that's a good image for testing :) | 21:47 |
| flwang | that's all from me | 21:47 |
| strigazi | yeap, if you want to give feedback this is the place or #fedora-coreos | 21:48 |
| strigazi | https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/ | 21:48 |
| jakeyip | anyone testing that out yet? | 21:48 |
| strigazi | I booted a couple of vms, but not much, didn't have time | 21:49 |
| jakeyip | we have users asking for coreos support, current answer is wait for fedora coreos 30 | 21:49 |
| strigazi | a few months left | 21:49 |
| strigazi | since we are running out of time | 21:50 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: you wanted to bring smth up? | 21:50 |
| alisanhaji | yes | 21:51 |
| alisanhaji | I am interested in having Kuryr-kubernetes supported with Magnum | 21:51 |
| alisanhaji | as a first step to gettting the clusters deployed by magnum communicating with the OpenStack that created them | 21:52 |
| strigazi | that is working already | 21:52 |
| alisanhaji | the goal is to have containers and VMs communicating in the same networks | 21:52 |
| alisanhaji | is kuryr a network driver already? I only see calico and flannel | 21:53 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: does kuryr require trunk ports? | 21:53 |
| strigazi | no it is only calico and flannel at the moment | 21:53 |
| alisanhaji | yes when using VMs, but you can also run kuryr without trunk ports | 21:54 |
| alisanhaji | but it requires a neutron-agent in the k8s node | 21:54 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: do you want to propose a patch? | 21:54 |
| alisanhaji | I was wondering if I needed to submit a blueprint or RFE in launchpad | 21:55 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/magnum | 21:55 |
| flwang | alisanhaji: storyboard | 21:55 |
| strigazi | if the patch look like this https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/common/templates/kubernetes/fragments/calico-service.sh it should be easy | 21:55 |
| alisanhaji | Thanks, I will see how kuryr can be deployed like this | 21:56 |
| alisanhaji | are trunk ports a problem with magnum? | 21:57 |
| strigazi | it might be complicated, it would better if it can work without | 21:57 |
| flwang | using trunk ports may need more change for code and heat template, which is complicated and we'd like to avoid | 21:58 |
| alisanhaji | I see, in this case a neutron-agent should be installed to the k8s nodes, and talk to neutron-server | 21:58 |
| alisanhaji | ah ok | 21:58 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: agent in the nodes works better for magnum | 21:58 |
| strigazi | anything else? time is up? | 21:59 |
| alisanhaji | Ok, thanks! And what about having OVN as a network driver, I am thinking about integrating it too to Magnum | 21:59 |
| flwang | alisanhaji: feel free to propose a story and spec | 22:00 |
| flwang | we can start to discuss from there | 22:00 |
| alisanhaji | flwang great: | 22:00 |
| alisanhaji | ! | 22:00 |
| strigazi | alisanhaji: go for it, the network drivers are pretty well encapsulated | 22:00 |
| strigazi | CNI is great | 22:01 |
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| alisanhaji | yes it is, thanks strigazi and flwang | 22:01 |
| strigazi | thanks for joining the meeting everyone! | 22:02 |
| jakeyip | thanks strigazi, flwang! | 22:02 |
| strigazi | see you around | 22:02 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: cheers | 22:02 |
| flwang | strigazi: thank you | 22:02 |
| strigazi | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 12 22:02:46 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2019/containers.2019-03-12-21.01.html | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2019/containers.2019-03-12-21.01.txt | 22:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2019/containers.2019-03-12-21.01.log.html | 22:02 |
| flwang | strigazi: do you have a few mins? just wander if you have a new patchset for upgrade i can test | 22:03 |
| flwang | and is there anything you think i should improve the upgrade api | 22:03 |
| strigazi | I think the API is good, only the issue with the labels could be improved | 22:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum master: [fedora-atomic-k8s] Adding Node Problem Detector https://review.openstack.org/641902 | 22:05 |
| jakeyip | speaking of testing, anyone have tricks to test faster? I was testing cluster templates and each change round trip time is 20mins. *yawn* | 22:05 |
| flwang | jakeyip: depends on what you're testing | 22:06 |
| strigazi | the patch of upgrade in the dirver it is not complete , I want to have it working with the API not with heat | 22:06 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: do not pull from dockerhub | 22:06 |
| jakeyip | do you have your local registry? | 22:06 |
| strigazi | for me it takes 5 mins cluster creation | 22:06 |
| strigazi | yeap | 22:07 |
| flwang | strigazi: what do you mean 'working with API not with heat'? | 22:07 |
| strigazi | I do calls from the heat api to the stuck to verify what it dows | 22:07 |
| strigazi | I do calls from the heat api to the stuck to verify what it does | 22:07 |
| jakeyip | cool. something I want to set up anyway. | 22:07 |
| strigazi | I do calls from the heat api to the stack to verify what it does | 22:07 |
| strigazi | jakeyip: see the gitlab-ci job, you can do something similar https://gitlab.cern.ch/strigazi/containers | 22:08 |
| flwang | strigazi: ok, i see. | 22:08 |
| flwang | strigazi: pls feel free upload new patch set so that i can be on the same page and review it along with your work | 22:09 |
| flwang | strigazi: it will be appreciated | 22:09 |
| strigazi | sure | 22:09 |
| flwang | strigazi: cheers | 22:09 |
| strigazi | I haven't sleep last week, I'll leave you guys | 22:10 |
| strigazi | see you | 22:10 |
| jakeyip | thanks strigazi! | 22:11 |
| flwang | strigazi: thank you, see you | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: Improve floating IP allocation https://review.openstack.org/641547 | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: Improve floating IP allocation https://review.openstack.org/641547 | 22:46 |
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